Jolie Holland On New Album "Haunted Mountain," Cults, Future Projects, Touring & More
[Music] about true cats now with their Bell draw Blitz get ready to listen to your favorite art artists [Music] how's your day going aside from talking to Media people because you know some people love it more than others um it's fine fine well what's not fine because it's great is your new record which is out in a couple of weeks when did you actually finish it um I I don't remember um you're you used to do you still manage people I have managed some people I consult more so um are you and what's this you I read your are you a private investigator oh boy yeah I I am uh that's a cool gig well I mean I'm the private investigator who also does his interviews and syndicates the content and all that I don't want to be boring just like you you're not boring and by that I mean a lot of people who have albums album every four years tour that's it but you're always popping up on other people's projects as well so you're pretty interesting yourself well I'm not I'm not just a musician either but um but uh yeah one of my dearest friends is uh is a pi so I see I see that side of things and it's really interesting did you come in through like a law enforcement background or like I know it's kind of to go in without a law enforcement background is like a little bit more work no uh yeah without a law enforcement background I came in as an entertainment industry person who managed and consulted and went hey you know what the jobs are drying up in this field uh I'm gonna go into the writing and researching and somebody who saw my skill set and went oh you could do this and you train you get X number of years under your belt and you can get licensed in a couple of states and you can do it that way cool yeah hey uh we'll we'll recruit you to the field but I don't think you need that because you know you're this great music person oh you know I mean from being in management you know it's really hard to get paid but um yeah no one of my one of my best friends uh is she has ADHD and she has one of those Minds that's just like go down the rabbit hole you know like one of those dogs that just will like dig to the Center of the Earth you know she's amazing and um she like was friends with a pi and and um they were like he would be so good at this yep yep that that is mine as well now is your friend one of those people who sits in the car does a lot of surveillance or they desktop she's just badass I mean she was plus she knows everybody so she's a um uh and she's super multi-skilled too she's like a beautiful um uh whatever she does all kinds of stuff really careers you wouldn't think of and I won't out her but um like uh I think it's all the ways because she knows so many people too and like she's a good uh exterior kind of personality like that you you wouldn't necessarily know like how [ __ ] smart she you know she's like has a cute like ditzy Persona as well so like she's she slays she's so good when you go to a pi convention it's it's like 80 or 90 former law enforcement and military people yeah it's like 10 eccentric people who possibly like the same bands you like who are laughing at the law enforcement and military people for all kind of being the same yeah well you can see them coming you know they got the builds you know they they you know who they are no matter no matter what they're wearing uh yeah and and then you can also go well if these people are following the same thing they investigate the same way so they take the same approach yeah right that's the power of diversity right there for sure yeah so I mean I I find so many ties from the pi stuff to the music stuff because in music I'm sure you encounter this all the time the people that go oh record companies used to give you big advances oh there used to be this and sales rather than the people who evolve and I look at your career and you've evolved with the times and I say that in a good way well I mean a big advances also a [ __ ] noose around your neck too like um like I know a lot of people who never ever recouped [ __ ] um and uh and a record deal is always a bad bank loan yes exactly even a mortgage at its very best it is a bad deal and like do you are you into like working class history do you are you into like um radical politics at all I am aware of it uh okay I know about your Emma Goldman's that kind of a thing but tell me more song um yeah so there's a song and I think about it whenever I think about like you know somebody talking about a good record deal um or their relationship with the record company like it goes um it's a song called Hallelujah I'm a bum and it uh it's like I love this this one verse comes back to me I love my boss and my boss loves me and that's the reason why I'm so hungry it's like yeah you know you could have us this most wonderful relationship in the world with them and like what good is that gonna do with that what good is that gonna do you yeah eventually it's going to implode I I think the vandals also have a great song called Behind the Music from about 20 years ago where it details the ascent of having the one hit and then ultimately the person's working in a video store uh after they get dropped and all that yeah and um you know I mean you know mo Tucker's story yeah yeah working in a grocery store um but yeah an island hero Mo Tucker I love her you know I mean yeah she went she went tea party but you know you can still come back sometimes you don't know if the people went tea party because they thought that there was a marketing angle to the whole thing like um I don't think she did I think she was sincere I feel like her heart was in that well let me let me go let me explain what I mean there's a certain band whose name I don't want to say out loud because I don't want to get flagged by certain religious cult that has a lot of Hollywood actors in it I think you can telepathically know who and what I'm talking about oh did you know I'm in the anti-curl world no oh yeah I I'm in the inside oh you know if you ever watch like a if you ever watch like a anti-cult documentary and there's some person with like a bunch of degrees shows up and they're like actually let's talk about this [ __ ] and like you know describe you know how it works I know those [ __ ] like those those some of those people um I got their phone number does that mean you know Dennis Hill from face to face no that that is somebody who after this I'm gonna have to introduce you to the lead guitar player in face to face and other punk bands he works on documentaries as a producer and Associate producer related to cult stuff oh cult uh overlap is great but unfortunately we're learning some of the punk people are in the Cults yeah I mean everybody is susceptible it's it's totally yeah so if I can keep complimenting you here because I don't know if you're uncomfortable with compliments here uh I I love how your career has evolved in that you've got your singer-songwriter path after being in the band stuff but you're all this also this like go-to collaborator for really great artists when they decide I'm gonna do a solo record in other words they go I'm now an individual let's go to an individual like who are you talking about Greg Grafton uh you worked with the guy from elbow Booker T Jones I mean do I have to keep going about the greats that have gone yeah we'll get Jolie on this I think those three people okay fair I'll go to Wikipedia to get more names but uh don't believe Wikipedia it's [ __ ] okay well also like um I'm pissed about Wikipedia too because um I I founded this band called The bigotanyas and I I was the first songwriter in the band it was me and Samantha Parton were the first songwriters in the band and we tried to claim that we were like the original songwriters and um this other person that took over the band was like just go back and like rewrite everything and you know it's just it's just an open source thing so it's like don't believe [ __ ] on there uh yeah there's on my Wikipedia page there's a person who's updated it claiming that they're me and I know that they're not me I'm so sorry my page is flagged as that I'm updating my own page you need to stop the hell out of them because you have those skills you gotta like you freak the [ __ ] out of them you know just like pick and choose your battles that's what I'm learning yeah yeah you pull you pull the toolbox out at the right time yeah Wikipedia gets you see one of the things I've learned in the past couple of weeks Wikipedia gets all the trolls but you know the least trolled platform out there is only fans and the reason I say that is only fans has been having all these people do reality shows and comedy specials so only fans is weirdly funding the Arts more than like any record company I guess to to whitewash what it was originally associated with and the horrors have always taken care of us so so uh back to here this this solo record is out in a couple weeks I see there's the jam in Java date there's the Genghis cone date Etc are there plans to do a lot of touring or is it just more one-offs and weekend warrior stuff well the problem is you're not looking at the front page on my website like there's like a there's a blip we're trying to figure out how to make it work but like no I have there's a bunch of dates on the front page of my website it's like my web designers is working on it yeah they shame on me for reading the press release oh my God I gotta talk to my publicist so so what I'm learning from you so far is don't read the press release don't read Wikipedia if you want the real story you go to your website I gotta talk to everybody this is too many you know this is too many that's why people need managers I mean and I have a great manager but like um there's just too many things going on like I'm you know I'm out here I'm trying to run this campaign to fund my record and I'm also on tour and like it's hard to get even Wi-Fi you know to work yeah uh when I am interviewing people on the road you never know if the Wi-Fi is going to be a grand slam or it's going to be the buffer every 10 seconds one because yeah the extra two dollars for the extended Wi-Fi I'm I'm glad I remember to bring these because the um the speaker is on my my computer are messed up got it so with this record done and the tour dates plan are you already thinking ahead to the next record are you one of those ours that starts the next record before this one's out or are you going I'm good for five years I'm I'm super prolific and like I've got lots of things going on like um the second song on the record feet on the ground is an anti-patriarchal dance song and I'm I want to make a record of anti-patriarchal dance music so we're working on that idea my friend uh who made a a video for [ __ ] Riot he almost made me a video for for um feet on the ground but um he lives in he lives in Texas and it was like literally too hot for them to work they were gonna make they were gonna make a dance video um and like his team on his team like was one of the one of the dancers for Big Frida and I was like super psyched about this video but it's not gonna happen well that's why I recommend any time you you think something's a good idea in Gmail you just hit that little clock looking hourglass thing you set the date to remind yourself so in three months when the weather isn't so hot in Texas make it happen well yeah I mean it's not a it's it's not a it wasn't a single anyways so but but it's hard to get people to cover videos that are not before you know after they've already come out because the record's coming out um on the 6th October 6th so you sound like you should be writing books as well is anything like that in the works I I really appreciate that as a author yourself um I have a I have a hundred thousand word manuscript that I mess with every once in a while sorry you were you were talking about somebody from some some ridiculous organization that only probably has about 20 000 members left really it is that's the facts that's the facts I did not know that well so there's a new super group Punk group where it looks like three of the five members come from that and then the other two members come from not wanting to get a vaccination I think if you put those identifiers in you'll figure out which band this is I've never heard of this band I don't even know what you're talking about I'll send you more info uh not verbally because I don't want them to start going through my mail but uh long story short you can get them back where it hurts you have the skills you have the license no you pick and choose your battles because you never know if there's uh one on a licensing board or there's one on your Co-op board or yeah yeah I mean I mean bottom line is you Google me you'll find out stuff but I don't want them to find out the wrong stuff I saw you have this unboxing project oh geez you really looked me up yeah me and the wife unbox things for the Paltrow box now the question should I be Googling you more than your music I don't know what you're gonna find I mean you plus you got the skills you can find out anything what I don't know well when are we gonna see you live in New York is that on the website is that in the near future I already shredded everybody's face off in New York I um we played at this awesome new venue called The Francis kite Club it's run by my dear friend kit Malone who used to be in TV on the radio ypkip yeah not not a band anymore and uh my dear friend Laura Hannah who's one of the debt Collective people um and some other [ __ ] and they're I love them so much and yeah it's this new venue we played three nights it was sold out it was we had gem white the great drummer played with us and um my uh bandmate Adam Brisbane who I normally don't get to play with because he's in [ __ ] me expand and um Ben boy on piano so it was an amazing residency and it was so great I've already shredded this town got it but hopefully you'll be back for more shredding in the near future yeah it was so fun as an LA person your shredding is a lot different than the kind of shredding that I'm used to the LA shredding is more the Eddie Van Halen stuff I love Eddie Van Halen but I don't I don't shred like him his shredding is very pristine I'm from the like I'm from the like Jazz World in a way you know like even though like an experimental world like yeah different different type of shredding well that is tremendous and the last question I have for you before I let you go is you're obviously a person with taste what should we be watching on television it doesn't necessarily have to be a show that has a sink of yours in there do you have a TV recommendation to pass on because I like to ask the people who know stuff and Jolie Holland you know stuff I mean did you watch I'm a Virgo yet I've not is that a Netflix original it's not I think it is no I think it's Amazon it was made by my friend boots Riley oh boots Riley from the the musician turned filmmaker from the sorry to bother you that film yeah yeah wow okay so I the more I learn here You've Got Friends in high places um you're not afraid to call them out you got a lot of Music in You You got a manuscript that hopefully will eventually see the daylight you shred when you feel like it at the venues you feel like keep checking your website in the Wikipedia is there anything else that we should be knowing or checking about you the end you do your research um I don't know I'm trying to do a uh you know records are expensive it costs about thirty thousand dollars to put out a record and that's not even making it you know um and I think about her dog like he's got some quote about like um it's so you know like that he all the money he makes he just puts into his films like he does it's just it's all in the work and um and yet he is treated so beautifully when he goes around the world he's like people love him more than heads of state which is real that's totally real um but yeah so I I have a crowdfunding thing up on my site so if if y'all like my music if your stomach Centric is zillionaire my I have a guitar a 1947 guitar that I'm auctioning off so we'll see what happens with that
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