Talks Tech #48: Exploring Emerging Technologies and Building Them With Limited Resources

hello everyone welcome to the woman who quote podcast uh I am Arjuna vaidishwaran data product manager at women who code and I have with me and she's going to be talking about exploring emerging Technologies and building them with limited resources so very exciting topic here today so bhavya is she uh she's a businesswoman and a web 3 Advocate focused on leading digital transformations to help companies achieve their potential she likes to explore emerging Technologies and use them as tools to improve businesses she's passionate about creating uh an impact by facilitating Innovations and nurturing consumer-centric startups So yeah thank you so much for joining in bhabia really excited to be here today when did you sort of get started into Tech I know you now talk about emerging Technologies but what got you started into Tech as such so being born in a very different generation when most of than most of my teachers I was naturally more inclined towards HTML and happened pretty early to me so I was in an international school and fourth standard was when I first encountered something called a computer lab and an HTML competition was going on so that's what primarily got me interested into Tech I saw like how people could build web pages and I really wanted to do more and spend my free time there so that's potentially how I got into it wherever I used to have like free time I used to enter the computer labs because those were the places that really had ACS back then so yes that that was my initial encounter with space yeah absolutely true I think I can completely relate to you there uh you know India can get very very hot so you you do need places where you have air cons and yeah computer lab is one of those places where they need to make sure the machines are cool enough so yeah and uh yeah codes on the labs like don't wear your shoes inside because the viruses oh my God yeah for sure I think some memories are now coming back but yeah very fascinating um you know introduction into Tech did you happen to like pursue into HTML back then like did you happen to build something yeah so I started building web pages and my teachers actually were very supportive so I started attending a lot of these into school competitions I would build web pages I learned first time and it would actually build web pages of Ms Excel as well so ever since then I've never really stopped like our curriculum was modified and we got Photoshop coreldraw and there were no limits to the tools that we were exposed to so definitely uh that was an entry point but it only Grew From there yeah absolutely so um I mean yeah you talked about school a bit but uh you know ever since school what is your Tech Journey sort of looked as uh look like you know so my tech Journey initially was very limited to my school and I used to interact in competitions go around meet people and learn about what they are building what different web pages they have and different elements they're bringing in so that was mostly out of it until in 11th standard I had to pick a stream and I really had to choose where I want to be and although I was very inclined towards a non-medical and economic side of things I could say is not let go of computer science for some reason so let's talk onto it and being like being grown up in a city like Delhi the Metro city is always always very fascinated by the corporate cultural very fascinated by big buildings so definitely a career in computer science was very attractive to me and I wanted to like enter into the space because my parents are both from a government service background and essentially felt that there's not enough change in those roles like you're doing the same tasks every day so computer science really came through as something that would need you to change your skills every six months so that's where I am pretty I gotten really excited in the space and that's where I like like made a random decision okay let's start with it and we'll see where it goes yeah absolutely very very fascinating and as you said you know things have to constantly keep changing and working with computer science as such which brings me to my next question what got you involved with web3 and blockchain like why do you find those serials interesting so for my undergrad I really didn't want to go for engineering because I had a perspective if I have to do it I have to do it from the best schools which I was not really prepared for them otherwise I'm not going for engineering because it's like anything that everyone else is doing so I went for a more theoretical course which is Bachelors of Science in computer science and because I thought I would get more into the theory part of it how it started and how essentially the algorithms like really come together but uh Midway through the curriculum I realized it tend to get tends to get very boring and that's when I started exploring random research papers online I started interacting with my coaches more so most of my teachers there in their University were like pursuing their phds as well that's where I encountered machine learning Ai and blockchain so while everyone was working on machine learning and air there was one Professor who was who started with blockchain and then migrated to where because there were not enough resources around the space so that's what like pushed me towards exploring it more because I was curious like okay what happens with the text type that does not have resources really like how do people build on it because someone has to so that's where I started reading about it writing about it and I wrote a paper which really didn't do well anywhere in India but then again I posted it I reached out to a few people on LinkedIn and that's how I got a fellowship in Asus Information Technology uh as a research associate so that's really when I started exploring in depth of a private blockchain I worked with a professor called so popular for me this and we like dived deeper into the tech stack around the space how are the projects that are coming up and what essentially is the value proposition behind it so that's really what got me into the space and ever since I returned back I realized it's still very much in the research days so I just restricted to freelancing and exploring more around it and it has been just like upwards from there you got it yeah uh but what sort of attracted you to web3 I know you've touched on blockchain but I'm really interested to know because web3 is still something I get people a bit hesitant about and people know it but they don't really know it so what is your perspective on it I uh till a lot later into my blockchain journey when I didn't have any clue about what battery is and how is it really different it was a very funny article that said people talking about teaching about blockchain don't necessarily know the difference between web 3.0 and web3 that's when I got into reading and I understood like what is the concept of what is the real what really is to talk about like how is it the third generation of web and that's when I came to read like how the web uh like evolved from web to web 2 to web free then because uh I was growing at a time where they were already phones so and I didn't really remember static web pages even though I had made them pretty early but that's when I could relate and I could understand like what the difference is between the cop like the essential structure behind the tech and that's what got me into web3 as well when I started reading more about it I understood how it holds potential much Beyond software and applications how is it changing the unit economics of how we operate in real business like absolutely and so like I know like you used a lot of terminologies right now but if you were to explain it to someone who doesn't really get it and you know someone who is completely new to it how would you like describe webtry to that person to someone I would like to start from like a fresh ground and I would like to say uh if you have to relate it to something I understand like in terms of a government right now like initially we all started in our schools for the People by the people right that's what web3 is essentially the government now is not really by the people for the people it is by the people but there's still a central party that makes autonomous decisions so where three is just promoting an idea wherein all the participants come together and take a unanimous decision instead of being a representation of both right so if we have to take a decision in what to order and there are five people in the party all five of them agree on it and then we go forward with that that is something that in a very raw language web series got it yeah that's that's really a very I guess very nice way to describe it because I think everyone can sort of relate to it somehow and they can feel like yeah I I know uh what do you mean over here and also like where do you think this sort of field is going now because uh you know you obviously hear a lot about blockchain you hear a lot about um I mean you hear a lot about crypto but you hear con like maybe a little less about blockchain but yeah you do hear about blockchain and web free do you see a future where they both will sort of interlock or like overlap or you know work together like where do you see it'll it'll be going the blockchain is essentially a texture that is facilitating where three in a way it removes transparency to security so it is already a part of it but essentially where it is going is with every emerging Tech like there's a curve to it and with the learning curve on blockchain what happened essentially was there was a lot of information overload since open source was already very prominent okay so every information that came through was pretty jargonized which made a lot of people scare away from the textile because they assumed it to be too technical but I think that is kind of fading off now people are getting to the real value of it and their understanding where the core proposition around the tech stack lies right so that's where the adoption will definitely take place but we are still to evaluate if its arise as a tech in Industry right because it's more about the problem people today why crypto is more famous than blockchain is because there was a financial aspect to it there was instant gratification attached to it there was instant rewards so some people just for the sake of quick money I chose to try the hand the word but will it sustain for long term I really don't know because we still need to figure out what is the proposition behind it what is the backing economics around it right with web3 growing in definitely it will have value in places where we seek more transparency but definitely governance is something that is yet to be figured out and who knows maybe there's another emerging Tech that merges on to all of it absolutely but yeah thank you so much for explaining it so well and uh moving on to you know uh sort of your journey into women who code like you know um how like now you are the woman who called blockchain fellow and quiet for some time right it's been like eight months so what's your fellowship been like and what sort of attracted you to come into this fellowship at the first place so I had been coding like pretty early on and I had always been a geek right and uh post my MBA I was definitely looking to diverge more into the business side of things because I understood that maybe I can learn better if I can talk in an unjarganized way but really not everyone is open to exploring such a space with someone who has been in a very technical space because again communication has a barrier and you really don't have anything to back uh your experience at all that's where I encountered women who code and they were kind enough to have faith in me and give me the leadership position and definitely it has been a great journey like I have learned how to interact better I have learned how to communicate my needs better I've learned how to give ownership while still maintaining the quality so I think that has been a great journey overall because I was always into solving the my new details myself rather than managing things and letting people take care of it I was the person who worked in a group project asked people to just be and let me do the entire thing so I think letting go or at uh when you look for senior roles is very important because that's where you realize how you can manage your time better as well so it is definitely bring a crazy Journey crazy eight months and I think I have changed like a lot in these eight months absolutely and uh you know uh I know like if someone is looking to get into this role what would you like what would be your advice to them and you know what would you suggest that they do or they do not do as part of being a fellow anyone looking to be a leadership fellow one thing very essential is that too like even during my application and the applicants we had these times also the major challenge that we see is people struggle to send in their challenge till the very last day and there's a very standard trajectory behind it we film our videos we film our challenges four to five times because we're just not confident if it's right however with communities like women who code their sexual uh what people are really looking for is that you have that confidence and you have that ability to go on for a challenge you need not have everything on day one that is something you grow and develop with the community and for anyone coming into this position it can really get overwhelming at first because you might not have previous experience in managing people and you might be an introvert or you might be someone who's been behind a desk all their life but this is the chance like this is a place you make mistakes because with the community like this you have a lot of people helping you throughout like even if you can't write a caption for it you will have 10 people supporting you and they'll never judge you for it they'll in fact be very honest and very open to you how things should be and why should they be this way so I think it provides a learning ground in any Community like this and definitely it is something that uh people should explore if they are like too hesitant to take big risk because like I think I think this is place to be for them absolutely and yeah thank you so much for explaining that I feel like that really puts it out well as to what uh it means to be a fellow uh but like in terms of events I just want to understand like you know what sort of events did you hold in case of blockchain did you have any did you um did you like maybe make like a judgment of how the field is going in based of the events and things but yeah how was your uh Fellowship been in general in terms of the track okay so when I was entering the track there was the track is pretty new and it has been only or two years since the track was there and what happened was the sessions we were just testing the ground as to what does well with the audience so there were a lot of sessions here and there a lot of beginner sessions but there was no no structure to the track and being from the industry I do realize I was mentoring students then so I didn't realize where the Gap is and why people are not able to get onto the blockchain bandwagon and like or not have a clear journey to their learning because it's an emerging Tech and their very limited resources so people tend to misuse it and kind of people a lot of people started creating paid courses which didn't really have any value so that's where we started interacting with our community more in meet and greets we started aligning as to what is the current background where are they now and where are they looking to transition So based on the tech stack that they had we conducted more of intermediate level workshops instead of very beginner friendly workshops like the recent event we did was a solidity boot camp so that was actually based of something that we had been doing for a long time we did an introductory session on how to set up a wallet how to make your own nft and post that we got in the solidity boot camp which actually introduced people to solidity to the concept of smart contracts and then to building it themselves on the session itself so I think that has been pretty great with the track that we could understand our audience being a small community we could communicate the needs well and we could actually get some projects ongoing absolutely that's really interesting that you sort of targeted that you know sort of me because I know blockchain is quite Niche already so you sort of created those groups with who already had knowledge and sort of needed it to sort of upskill themselves and I think that's that's the place where women who quote does really well is a point where you know you're in your career and you see a lot of options and you don't know where to go and uh you need that sort of push or help or support to get into that specific role So yeah thank you so much for explaining that and um and I I also uh notice that you started getting into streaming so how did you get into that and you know what what is uh what has that been like quite happened after I entered women on board and we have these sessions for leadership fellows wherein we get to analyze how we are doing as Leaders what is the mindset we are working at and that's when I realized like I've always been very shy even though I'm very good with people so when I'm networking I do explain Concepts well but uh I won't volunteer to go up or stage and talk about it so that's when I realized that you need to come out of that social space if I want to enter the business and management world and that's where I found that starting with the camera alone would be the easiest way out so that's when I thought I would start streaming and initially I did not post about it on any of my socials because I was really very shy what if my friends join in what if my colleagues join in and I started streaming on a platform called Creator Club so it was a web 3 based streaming platform wherein they've introduced a concept of like an odd the Dao which is a decentralized autonomous organization wherein all people who are streaming basically govern the rules of streaming so I started with that platform I started streaming and I started seeing a lot of organic traffic like I started seeing 80 200 people on my live sessions that's where I really started to gain a little confidence that if these people are really coming back I might be talking some and I guess I never looked back from then I have been more open to things such as this podcast uh speaking out in public and going on stage as well that has really helped me overcome that fear of speaking in public oh yeah that sounds really good I feel like uh do you have any recommendations of where people can start and like why not use I don't know like uh stuff like twitch why did you decide to use something like Dao for streaming or is there any other sources like can you do it on YouTube itself I anyone was looking to start Instagram is actually a real made a good medium because you can start with small videos and it's like more friendly if you don't like it you will not really post it also you can just go on live and test it out for yourself and you would get more honest opinion with your friends so me what happened was I got reached out by Creator club for an opportunity and I just happened to explore a platform where no none of my friends would be explore around it because I love uh challenging tasks but I sometimes try to keep it a secret until I do get good at it absolutely I can totally understand and uh so yeah that's that sort of brings me to my next question right like how do you sort of because yeah if you would start an Instagram live will probably just be attended by your family and your friends and your relatives as such so how do you like sort of get out of that and then go towards like somewhere where you can find similar sort of people for streaming like similar sort of audience so I think it's the same it's the same to identify what do you really want to talk about and who would it benefit because that's one thing we learned through a lot of women who events as well when we are curating an event it's less about what that event holds it's more about the value it adds to the 10 days so whenever you're trying to stream whenever you're trying to talk about something you really need to understand you need to put yourself in the shoes of person who will be listening to it and how does it add value to their life because they'll be giving you 10 to 15 minutes bare minimum to listen to you so what adds the value to it if you're talking about something about lifestyle you might choose a platform like Instagram right but if you are talking about a concept of how to and why to a YouTube would be a better platform because people engaging on YouTube would have longer bandwidths and are just looking to explore around different topics so it's definitely very important to understand what uh what is your target audience before you start uh choosing a platform yeah it does sound like very you know um like something you need to research and figure out what really sets out for you but yeah I would love to like if you have like any you know blogs or anything that you would love to write about this I think like you should go ahead and write it I think a lot of people would be interested as well because yeah I'm hearing it and I'm like I I would have never thought of exploring that and yeah you know I bet like you know uh there are a lot of people like me who want to start but don't know where to right yeah yeah that's a big thing with emerging Tech as well uh and so now coming back to the startups uh as such when did you sort of decide to be a part of the founding team uh at startups and why so initially I was very I don't know what I was very fascinated by big buildings and corporates I started my first internship with Reliance I was in my first year of undergrad itself like when people was just going around enjoying I said I'll go to an office and that's when I realized like there's a lot of hierarchical things and really in big organizations is doing monotonous task until you've reached a certain level and post that post my graduation I joined Deloitte USI which was again a big company I was working there as an analyst and it really does get more naughtiness for someone like me who would like to explore more try more hands at more problems so that's where I thought okay maybe I'll take a break and I Explore More of startups so that I have a fair idea of what how both situations work and then I can make a decision for myself so I encountered freelancing at first it's not really easy to get into startups because they don't have 10 people doing the same thing they would have a one person marketing team handling all and everything from business relations to their marketing to sales right so you really need to be on your tiptoes and need to learn every day again it's not something like you come with the skill set on day one and that's what you'll be trained on then that's what you have to implement repeatedly so that's really excited that's what really excited me about startups and when I started joining a few I realized they really need people in Tech to come out because people in Tech who usually is choosing the safe jobs and not really helping it out and uh big thing with people in emerging and emerging Tech is that they're mostly Developers right because they understand the complexity and the nuances behind it and the business people although they want to get their steps into it and can really benefit from it because they're smaller cycles of implementation they find it very hard to retain good resources so that's why like I found my place in startups it gave me a lot of room to explore like in startups I've never been limited to a space that okay I'm coming from Tech so I can't do marketing where I can't do sales that's where I started exploring a lot and I think I kind of done I've had quite a journey for the past two years trying to de-jorganize my language into more of a business linger than from a techie language and that's where I think I've helped create a bridge between the technical and the core technical world and the business world and that's how startups have worked really well for me especially the Senior Management roles yeah absolutely uh that does seem like very fascinating and obviously like you know um as technical people we we tend to I feel like we have a tunnel vision we tend to see the one thing alone in our own like Tech stack and then we definitely do not try and think about how to do marketing or how to do sales and yeah it's it's a long journey it always feels very intimidating but it's sort of great to know that you know there are people like you who have sort of made the journey and are uh still like you know doing really well at it sure is like they are the opportunity cost is too high because if you just pick one text that can you excel in it you would have a pretty good A pretty stable job so the risks actually become bigger with startups because the startup would not necessarily stick to one text tag itself they might start with an Android app they move to an iOS they might discard the app altogether because the they're very problem focused and they're not the client focused ones so it is definitely high risk High reward and it's definitely more to explore so for people who are not necessarily happy in a monogram situation and are like okay let's let's change who are people who enjoy chaos I think startups are a great place to be here indefinitely that that's uh that's a good way to put it and yeah uh let me continue further uh when did you uh like how do you continue evolving and upskilling with all the rules that you sort of have because now that you also do a bit of marketing or you know the business aspect of it but how do you sort of cope that with taking care of emerging Technologies and making sure they both like gel together as well definitely and each person has their own roadmap like that I now when I go to talks a lot of people ask me how do you do it and I was like it'll definitely be different for you because when I started with weapon blockchain it was just coming around there were barely 17 to 18 people who were working aloud in this place so it has to be very different for everyone uh definitely but initially it gets a lot overwhelming also and you don't have any clue as to what you do but I think uh the very important step is to set your priorities right to and to diverge yourself in freelancing projects because when you have a certain responsibilities and certain commitments you can't really dive into a new space and expect to have like a good role matching your current composition or your current role as well so for me when I had to start from I I wanted to do sales even though I was an SDA I had to start from an unturned position because that thing with any new thing you're learning when you're starting you have to learn from the first position otherwise you don't really get the ground rules so to be able to open to that I think Financial Independence here becomes a very big Financial Freedom really becomes a very big factor and it might not be easy for anyone at beginning so what I usually uh started to do is with my full-time job I started taking up a few projects for free like I did a sales small sales project for free but I would just devote two to three hours to it and not one once I had a little experience in it I took small internship roles in it and once I was very confident in it I took bigger contractual product like projects you know that's when I could really shift from my full-time job to having two to three contractual jobs because I was now equipped in three to four fields and I was very sure of it that I could upskill from them so initials the initial setup does take a lot of effort and a lot of giving out of your party time but uh if if you really enjoy learning and if you are someone who enjoys upskilling it it does reward in the long term because you get that mental peace and you're never really body always have something new on your plate to learn so it is very exciting yeah definitely very very interesting to sort of know that as well how can we like develop on emerging Technologies with I guess the topic for the day sort of with limited resources right and like maybe like I would love for you to also break down what these limited resources mean do these mean in terms of skills or does it mean in terms of what you might have so um yeah I mean like uh would love to understand more into how to develop for emerging tech people who necessarily go and do it are mostly techies so we'll take a developer approach to things and when you are diving into something which is an emerging Tech your first encounter is usually happen through a paper or you might have read it somewhere right but if you're someone who's according to be updated with it as just following consultancies basically Who start uh like who experiment a lot of these Tech Stacks because it's less about the text than it's opposite actually really as techies we first pick a text tag and we work with it however in the real world and business problems how things work is okay I have a problem and the problem is that the documents are like the trajectory is to opaque I want it to be more transparent and that's where you start thinking how can I make it more transparent maybe I share it with 10 systems and everyone has a copy of it then it's transparent that's where a text tag really comes into picture right if I say okay I don't have a central space where I can store all my documents that's where Cloud came in so the attack is really a solution and a tool and not the other way around right so that's where exploring comes in so if you like to if you would like to keep a track of these things following big consultancy is definitely a way someone who's actively involved in innovation in in the digital space it's definitely a good place and once you have your initial encounter and you want to learn in the space the limited resources here essentially means that you will just have a flaw concept around it like okay this is what we are working one like for consensus it's just like we're just voting on it that is group of work that is just the raw concept and there's not enough guidelines around it like if you go today and you say I want to Learn Python there will be a full guide book as to okay you should go on to Jupiter notebook download this get this library with emerging tag uh text track there's no roadmap to it and that's the beauty of it like there's nothing constraining you like with python you may start thinking only from the library because you were guided up to them but with the text app where you only have a concept note around it you're just free to explore your imagination runs wild you just think okay if you're just voting it why why just in an app what what if I do it in a financial system what if I do it for healthcare what if I do it for maybe economics or government right so you're just open to explore and there's so much that you can do there's definitely challenges when you are looking to implement it because you don't really know as to where to implement it will it work on Mac will it work on Android so that is where these white papers come into the picture you'll get very vague definition into what three of these where senior researchers are still working on it but that's what creates an opportunity for you as well if you have a prior developer experience if you know any of the basics or C plus plus you basically understand how algorithms and data structures work and it is similar for any new language or so all languages are mostly built on the previous ones so if you understand Concepts like object-oriented programming and some of the basic computer science algorithms you can work work your way around trying to code a little bit and that's the best part there's no one to judge also like everyone is just experimenting and there's a small community around it so you keep experimenting around it until something works yeah definitely I I feel like that's that's a really good point about how you could take like a top-down approach versus like a bottom up in terms of learning but you know like um I mean obviously nowadays you have great tools you have like stuff like GPT as well that could sort of assist you while you're sort of learning and nowadays like even if you run like I feel like I mean stack Overflow is really good as well but if you get stuck you could use GPT to sort of debug your program as well it does it in a fairly quicker manner but how do you like you know come to like at some point like you know if you were to take the top down approach and that's pretty great as well like you know making sure that you know uh you know you attack the problem versus going the other route of just learning uh all Concepts before you come to the problem but do you at some point like this has happened to me often is that whenever I take a top-down approach I I am constantly scared that I don't know enough and that sort of also like stops me right and I I get into this um sort of space where you know I I don't know whether oh maybe I don't know enough and that's why I'm not able to tackle it so how do you sort of Judge that yeah I think that is the biggest problem that most people face and with like your mental tools like stack Overflow and Jupiter that's even to par for emerging Tech like that's that gets you nowhere to emerging Tech because again GPT what it does it's an air language it reads off information that's already available with emerging text tag the beauty of it is that it's not already there there's no one to Define it there's no one who defines the rule where you coded do you code it on a web app you put it on your system do you record it in the command line prompt right there's no code to it really there's just a concept there's a core concept that I want to do it and you still need to figure out how do I do it like it's not about it's a cloud storage so I'll store it on the Google Drive it's about figuring what is the Google Drive where does that system actually go where does that space really go and it's very natural to get into the loop of maybe I don't know things maybe I can't do it maybe I should wait for one or two years until other people explore and then maybe I'll dive into it but again that's that's the part uh wherein learning being a student for life really comes in and it's not like you give everything and get into it but if you are someone who has that easy kind of uh interest in research and again like getting to know more explore and more what can happen uh it's it really helps to read as well and read things off of technical Concepts right technical documentation because we in as techies we encounter so many technical documentations in our daily lives we often really lose touch of what essentially a system is right almost what essentially uh how things work like before I did my management a product to me would just mean a web app or software or like okay something as simple as chair could also be the product if your problem is just sitting down right so that's that's the approach that we need to uh and it takes a lot you need to read a lot out of it so you don't get lost in the biases of the tech world and but that that's what gives you a lot of courage and inquisitive power to keep reading because when you are reading uh foreign if you have no coding experience it's easier for me to teach you solidity than if you know all other languages because when you are learning solidity right you try to relate it to languages that you've known you know JavaScript you know Java you're not C sharp you're just trying to bring in okay like this is how it used to happen and that that text that how does it happen here and why is it different so there's a lot of factors that are barring your Innovation that is something you definitely need to unlearn when you were working with emerging Tech because it's time to solve a new problem with a new approach then might be other approaches that work but we are trying to figure out a better way so that's the reading really comes in yeah and you know now that you've been talking so much about emerging Tech and obviously you are now doing web3 and blockchain how do you know where the field is going next you know or do you like wait for something to come out and then jump on it or do you like already like within like for example within machine learning and within like you know working with deep learning as such I think like we obviously like envisioned a Dave and large language models would come even four or five years ago we knew that if given the enough compute we would reach here but how do you sort of Define it in your space especially with web3 and blockchain right so there will be with every text I write a lot of people in the favor of it and then against it some people will say no it will not survive it'll die meta was will die but really how we do is we I never take a tech first approach like I will never vouch for web free as a tech I will just vouch for the value it brings in if there is a solution tomorrow if there's a new text back tomorrow that we can provide me more privacy more security more decentralization I might just opt for it right so it's not really about the text that again it's being very problem agnostic and like a very problem-centric and understanding what is it that you want to solve and that's where like a lot of people now say that well web3 make the exchange or generative Ai and it's really not a competition because it's whatever where you find use case for each of them so that's that's definitely very important to Define especially when you're working in emerging Tech and where I work is essentially product so I really try to understand what is the problem current problem that a business is facing is that the automation is it optimization of their funds is it resource pooling is scaling and then I kind of try to break down how that challenge can be solved with that if there's something that cloud can solve better than blockchain and in a much lesser cost and obviously cloud is the answer I think that is a big factor when you're working with emerging Tech to not get lost into it even though it might be on a boom right now because a lot of people don't understand it and just want to jump onto it it will not sustain long-term feel does not have real value absolutely that's that's a great way to put it yeah like you know uh see what problems you can solve or not what don't go after the tech and yeah um I think like you know we can sort of wrap it up on that thank you so much bhavya uh do you have like any other like final thoughts final things that you want to maybe tell the community about or the listeners as such I think it was pretty amazing having this discussion and when I interact with a lot of people who are looking to get into Amazon Tech space there are a lot of questions around how do I start where do I start so I just hope this could give them a starting point and that courage to kind of start reading and get into the space because it definitely has certain risks but it is the most amazing space to explore your creativity and let your Innovation life lose yeah thank you so much thank you so much for joining us today and giving us such a enlightening talk I I personally enjoyed it a lot I bet all of our listeners will as well thank you thank you so much thank you foreign [Music]

2023-09-19 21:02

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