HID vs LED Headlight Bulbs: EXPLAINED

HID vs LED Headlight Bulbs: EXPLAINED

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Hi Paul with diode dynamics, and today we're talking about HIDs, versus, LEDs, when it comes to upgrading your headlights now there's a lot of regulations, state-by-state today, we're talking about how these two different technologies actually work, and what you can expect to get in your vehicle now. That's the first big note to mention when it comes to bulbs, and headlights, it, all comes together to make one optical, system, so the results, in the beam pattern is gonna vary based, on your specific headlight, design but. There's a couple things we can talk about that, are going to give you an idea as to what to expect when, you're considering LEDs, or HIDs we. Start with the actual bulb itself the, most basic is our halogen that's going to be a wire, filaments, so, just a coil of wire that's going to be emitting the power you can see on the bottom of the bulb the voltage rating and everything the. Voltage is going to be going straight through that filament which acts as a resistor, and it's, going to emit light so very basic very. Tried and true when. It comes to HID, instead. Of a filament, we have a capsule, and right in the middle is where there's going to be an arc generated. So the, light is coming from an electrical, arc and that's what makes things a little tricky we're, always going to have a returned wire to, connect it from one, side down back to the base and these, are gonna run at about 45. Volts, usually, AC power. So much different than a 12 volt DC in the vehicle we, have to do some, special things to get power to, these effectively, when. It comes to our LED bulbs we're, always going to have emitting, points somewhere with different types of LEDs but, these are gonna vary hugely in the way they're designed and constructed some. Of them are gonna have internal, regulators, for the power to come in but, the LED chips themselves are, definitely, not going to run on 12 volts so, we need to regulate that power in some way so, as we mentioned the halogen bulb is just going to use 12 volts from the vehicle very straightforward. HIDs. On the other hand are going to operate with, an arc in that bulb now, that arc is not an easy thing to generate, and maintain so. We need something called a ballast, which is going to keep that running smoothly, through the bulb the. Ballast. You'll find on the market now are these slim, style ballasts, one thing you'll note with them is that on the output, side you'll always have a box of some sort and what. That is is the igniter, so. We have to get the right power going to the bulb but to get that arc started, we, basically have to spark across so these are gonna generate up to, 25,000. Volts 22. 23 kilovolts, usually, and that's.

Going To get that arc started, so the light can start to come out that's the main reason why these older ballasts are so thick if you put this together you'll see it's, basically the same size all. They've, done is move these igniters. External. And that way the ballasts itself can be smaller but. What's in the actual ballast well it's, not easy to keep that arc of light running so, these ballasts, are basically, little processors. Little little computers, and what they're going to do is they're, going to analyze, this arc as it's running now when. You ignite, that bulb to get it started, it'll, spark for a second and then it'll gradually warm, up and what, that is is it's actually monitoring. The resistance, of this arc and the. Ballast is delivering more and more power so. That this arc can get bigger and bigger this is the same way it, works in stadiums and that sort of thing so in stadium, lights they're way bigger arts so we can take 30 minutes after a stadium light comes on and it slowly gets, brighter and brighter in. HIDs. For vehicles here much, lower power much smaller arcs it can still take 10 to 30 seconds to get fully warmed up but. That's basically how the HID, system, comes together as you, can see there's way more going on to them than our standard halogen bulb and the. Fact that we need to use this micro. Processor. In here to really regulate that arc the, igniter to get this arc started, it's. All just a lot of parts, coming together and the. Problem is a lot of these aftermarket ones are built, to a cost so you can buy you, know these kits for two three dollars for the whole set you're, not gonna get good components, so, with, good components, they can work well but, there's, always a lot more that has to go into them so. How, does that compare to LEDs, well, with LEDs, we, simply have the LEDs on a stalk, here and then going to the base of the bulb and most. Of them are going to have these little boxes coming off but. These aren't what we refer to as a ballast a ballast really, monitors, the arc of a power and so we use that term for HIDs. Fluorescent, lights that sort of thing these are what we would call drivers. Or regulators, most. Commonly, they're just going to take here 12 or 13 volts on the vehicle and convert. It down to, nine volts or whatever. Voltage is required for, the LED, bulb design, LED.

Bulbs Do require constant, current, going to them instead of constant, voltage so. We have to use a constant, current supply so we'll actually make sure that about one, amp 1.2, amps, is traveling, through those, LEDs, very, uniformly, to, keep them very reliable, still. It's much simpler, than, the complexity. Of maintaining, an arc of power so, these are generally, much, simpler, much more reliable, over time, and much, less expensive, versus. A whole ballast. Now. What's the difference in how these actually turn on and operate, well, with HIDs as we talked about it, uses an arc that needs a spark on and then gradually. Turn on now, even if you find a special ballast that's advertised, as fast starting, or fast bright it's. Gonna take a couple seconds, after, that initial spark which is one reason they're, not too great for High Beam use where you want to use them as indicators, it's gonna take a couple seconds, for them to get to full brightness once. They do get to full brightness they're, going to maintain that brightness, level no matter how long they're on with. LEDs, they, will instantly, turn on which is a big, advantage, but. One, thing that most people don't talk about with LEDs is that, it's gonna be a hundred percent brightness, only. At the instant, they turn on when they're nice and cool as they. Heat up they're, going to reduce and brightness down to maybe eighty eighty-five, percent of that original level, and with. Really cheap bulbs that aren't well designed it might only be 50, or 60 percent so, it's important, to choose an LED bulb that's going to maintain the output, at a very high level with, good thermal. Performance we. Have another video on this where you can see on camera, the actual LED, brightness decreasing. Is pretty crazy but. Once, it that reaches that steady operating, temperature it will maintain, that output, very, nicely so, once these are running how are they going to work overtime or eventually, fail well with a halogen bulb you might think okay it's just gonna go, out after a while that's not quite the case halogen, bulbs are going to decrease an output over, their lifespan until, they finally go out this, is actually why if you go in the store and look at house and bulbs on the shelf they'll say 30%. More output they're, not saying that the bulbs themselves are brighter they're saying that they're brighter than your worn-out bulbs, in your vehicle they've actually been sued for this type of marketing, it's a little misleading all.

Bulbs, That are brand new halogen bulbs are going to be about the same output level, and you. Can improve, your output if you replace your, worn bulbs, that, applies to HIDs, to some degree as well so, with HIDs, assuming. You've got a good balance it should keep running forever but. The bulbs, the, actual electrodes, are going to actually wear down over time and they're gonna spread, out so. That it takes more power and there's more resistance in generating, that arc what. That'll do is decrease, the output drastically. And it, might color shift or fade it to a bluish type color so. There's, a lot of vehicles now with HIDs from the 2000s. And a, lot of people come to me asking well my HIDs aren't as bright as it used to be the best thing to do is just try new, bulbs because, if somehow, those bulbs are still running you know eventually the, arc won't be able to be maintained, and it might flicker keep, igniting, but, if that thing's still running it might be really dim in the bluish color and you can fix that with a new set of bulbs, with. LEDs, these, do also degrade over time now. A good LED that's, running at the correct operating, temperature, should, last for, decades, but. With high-power, LEDs if, they're running too hot or if there's too much power going through them they, will quickly, degrade. So, that the, output today, might. Be way more than the output three. Years from now after. A lot of use this, is a huge, factor, for cities. Buying street lights they can't have the light actually less, output only two, years later. They have to make sure 10-15, years 20, years down the road they're going to be getting the same amount of output this is something called lumen, maintenance and it's a big factor in LED, design. Unfortunately. The majority of the LED bulbs on the market are running way too hot, and they, will degrade after, only a couple months of use there's only a couple of good ones out there they're going to maintain a nice, cool, operation, for the chips so, that they'll maintain, the output, for years and years of use so, we talked about how light is emitted now what determines the color of that light well, with HIDs, it's going to be determined by the halide, salt mixture, in the capsule, itself that's that yellow stuff if you look at an HID, bulb this will evaporate and actually. Allow. That arc to be generated, inside of it and that's going to determine the wavelengths. Of color, that are generated, by this archetype. Bulb running just, like fluorescent bulbs, HID. Bulbs are going to generate spikes, of color, and we'll put something up to show that the. Color. Is generated, are going to be a lot of UV. Light as well and that's why we have this second, tube around, it so, you might have heard how. The. Bluer an HID, bulb is the less real output you get and there's definitely truth to that because as you shift more towards blue you, also put more of the energy into, that ultraviolet. Wavelength, that's just going to get blocked and of course is not visible so, to get the most out put you. Want to use a nice pure, white color with HIDs i'd recommend no, higher than 6,000, K now. With LEDs, we. Only have one, choice unlike, HIDs where we had all the colors under the Sun we, only really have one choice of color with most LED bulbs, normally. It's going to be around 6000, K and that's just because that's, where the LED chips are produced, if you look at a factory, vehicle on the road om, LEDs are just, always made at that 6000, K level now, with cheaper LEDs you, might notice, that these blue, or chips or something and that's because with, the way LEDs, are manufactured. It's, actually more expensive, and less, efficient, the more and more white we get them so that's why all the, first LEDs in the, early you, know later later 2000s were a really bluish light and nowadays, we can finally get warm white LEDs everywhere, it just, takes more materials, and it's, harder to get a lot of output with a warm white color versus, cool light so still, with, cheaper LED bulbs that don't use automotive, chips you might get really bluish color output, even, with Cree LEDs these. Are gonna be well controlled they're not automotive, so there might be more variation, and of course this co, B type these, are basically custom made and those, are usually going to be really poor, in color performance if, you get good bulbs with automotive.

Style LED, chips on them you should have great color uniformity, over, the life of the bulb so, with the light that we're generating what's gonna determine the total output, or the intensity, of that light and where. It's shining from well, if you look at our halogen once again we know it's based around that filament coil it's, a very specific, amount of lumens or total, output that has to come out of a halogen bulb when. We compare that to hid, the. HID is gonna generate nominally. About 3200. Lumens, for a good 35. Watt bulb and that's one important, thing for. Our cheaper. Ballasts, they're just not going to output 35. Watts to the bulbs so you might only have 2000. 2500, lumens with. A good HID we're, gonna have thirty-two hundred lumens, coming, from this art and. We can see the arc has been designed to sit exactly, where that filament is the. Problem, with this is that the arc is still a little, bit taller and a little bit wider than that filament, so it's, not exactly in focus but it is centered, where it's supposed to be the. Main issue when, it comes to output, performance of HIDs and glare. Is that there's way more output. So 3200. Lumens, compared, to usually, about fifteen, hundred lumens, here W, output from the same point a little bit bigger means, much, more light that, your headlamp, might not be able to gather collect, and focus. Properly, now. When it comes to LEDs the. Big issue is that there's just a huge amount of variance so if we look at a, cheaper. Style of LED, here we, can see it uses the co B type chip. So. This is a much bigger omitting, area here compared, to our filament, and it. Might only be about 1200, lumens so. The output isn't higher and it's, out of focus which, is basically, horrible. In both cases, so, with, this something like this we're, just going to end up with something that's a blob of light on the wall and dimmer. Than, your original halogen, so, with LEDs we need to fix that by at least using chips, that, are designed to be the exact same size and intensity as that, filament. In the halogen bulb so, here we have nice.

Zes, LEDs, they're, designed to be the same size as this filament and we're. Going to make sure that this bulb is running, with high enough power to match, or exceed the output of the, halogen bulb so here with, a diode dynamics sl1 we get a true measured. 1700. Lumens of output and the. Halogen, with about 1500, lumens means we're going to get increased, output with, the same nice focus, now. The last thing I'll mention with LED, output is that you'll see ratings, of 10,000. Lumen LED is 5,000, lumen LEDs is it, one bulb is it two bulbs they don't really say and that's, one thing to be very wary of when it comes to output. Performance ratings, these. Bulb manufacturers. Very rarely, actually. Measure the, output of the bulb they'll just look at the chips on them and basically, give it a guesstimate, on what. That you can expect it's, very, very rare to see any LED bulb actually, outputting. More than about 1600. 1700. Lumens. There. Are some that are brighter but normally they're going to use bigger chips on them than two in order to get the heat out of those chips, so you, might find things that are brighter but, they're, not going to be focused meaning, that brightness doesn't, matter but, just be very wary when you see ratings, from people and ask did they actually measure it we're, fortunate to have facilities, here where we can actually put, these in something called an integrating, sphere and measure, that output so, we know what the true output of the LEDs the HIDs and the halogen really, is if someone's not measuring it then. Guesses, or recommendations. From the manufacturer, and most, cases is just marketing. Info and not correct now. I've looked at all this information on the, differences, of the technology, itself but how is it going to actually apply to your vehicle now as we mentioned the focal point and the geometry and the design of your headlamp is going to play a major factor but, another big factor is the electrical, system on your vehicle so, especially on newer vehicles, all the electronics, are powered through the BCM, or body control, module of the vehicle not, kuru just our relay in a fuse and that means they might have a flickering, signal, they might be monitoring. The power of going to the, bulb in most, cases that's really helpful for a halogen bulb we can actually sense, when the coil is breaking down and the vehicle can know when, the bulb is going to be out soon just because there's more and more resistance, as that, filament breaks down so, it's great but when we look at putting HID or LED into that it might not work perfectly. Now, HID, uses, a lot of power when it starts up it's because that ignition, that we mentioned it might draw in 7, 8 10 amps of power right. When it starts up and that alone can cause some issues especially. On older vehicles for, that reason you'll see relays, used a lot to basically add new, wiring to deliver enough, power straight, from the battery for, the HID system, there's. Not really that problem with LEDs because, we're only going to be drawing maybe 2030. Watts at most and we don't have that spike, of power going into them that's the big key so. We don't really need to worry about bulking. Up or beefing up our wiring on the vehicle but with.

Both Of these systems the. Other half is that monitoring, or the flickering, signal, so, with HIDs some, of them now have built in big, warning, cancel, errs or error, counsellors you might see they'll. Be called can bus very. Commonly, and all. This is basically, going to smooth. Out that power signal, before, it goes to the hid even. With this sometimes. That initial. Surge, of power might be too much and it might trip up the vehicle system there's, most common all of Dodge vehicles, these days where it can be really, tricky so, you can buy an extra little adapt, ters canvas adaptors they're called to fix that again, it just gets more complicated, with HIDs but, if you find something that's designed for your vehicle that's. What you know should work with, LEDs you, might still need that from time to time most, commonly, with flickering, signals, so if the vehicle is sending a flickering signal to the bulb you still need to add an extra adapter of some sort to smooth that out again. Check. It out for your vehicle but, in most cases it's not going to be quite as complicated as what you need to do for HID setups now, finally let's see how these really compare in a couple headlights now as I mentioned it really, depends on your specific vehicle and, headlight design to. Determine, the best choice for you but there are two major differences in elegent headlamps, the, first design you'll see is reflector, and that is when we have a light source that then shines into a bunch of mirrors just. Bouncing, once into, the road that's, very common, it's the cheapest, type of headlight to produce but these days with, advanced computer, design we can get really nice output patterns, the. Other type of headlamp is known as a projector, headlamps and that uses a lens we, actually have just a projector, right here so you'll see the lens on the front of it but, inside, we put our bulb, and then there's a bowl around it this is going to be a parabolic. Reflector and, it's, gonna function to essentially collect, as much light as possible and, shine, it forward into the lens to be distributed, so as you'll see we, can more effectively collect. More of the light with a design like this and let's. Check out now how these compare, with, LED, and hid installed, in each alright we've got our Dodge Ram headlight here this is a reflector, style headlight as you can see with the nice mirrored, surfaces, in here now, for these tests we're gonna be using a lux meter and just showing you the peak intensity, but we're gonna look at the whole beam pattern as well we're, gonna keep our camera setting, solid.

Just Set to the same level so you can get a nice comparison. So we've, got our halogen to start here when, we turn this on we, can see we've got a nice hot spot in the middle and width on both sides the maxx Lux that we've measured from this distance, is eleven, hundred and nine now. I switched over to the hid and when I light this up you can see how long this is gonna take to startup so of course some, bouts are going to take longer than others where we can see the effect of that here now as it warms up it's going to shift from a bluish up to a whitish, color as well so, we'll let this get up to full, operating, brightness and then, we'll measure the lux here too so. Now it's fully bright and we measured it and we got fifteen, hundred and eighty lux, so that's a big improvement from our halogen reading but, the problem is we have more light everywhere. Now and that includes extra, glare above. Our cutoff pattern, so, with reflectors, there's just no real good way of controlling, that extra glare because, we don't have any type of shield, like we'll see in the projector, so, reflectors. With HIDs we have to be very careful, because not. Only are, we shining more light in the hot spot, we, are also, shining more light above, it and creating, glare for other drivers now, let's take a look at the LED next. We have our creel, ad installed, and these, aren't even the worst type of bulbs like the CoV but. They're so out of focus still with that bigger cree LED on it in this, case you can see we don't have any hot spot anymore it's really just blurry and just out-of-focus. So, on this we only have 840, Lux which is a big, downgrade, from halogen, so, when it comes to LED bulbs the first step is you want to make sure you're getting a good LED, bulb that's focused next, we're going to be doing the diode dynamics sl1 and we'll, see how this performs, so. When we light this up you can see immediately a huge, difference, in the quality of, these two different LED bulbs this, is the diode dynamics sl1 which is using nice high intensity, chips arranged. Perfectly with a really good focus and the result is clear we have a nice strong, hot spot and that hot spot is actually sixteen, hundred and sixty lux which, is higher than the hid, in this headlight and that was a good hid of course it's a thirty five watt HID if we go to a higher power hid, like fifty five watt we. Might get more output from the hid but. Again, with that hid will get more glare in this, case because the LED is so well focused, we get a huge increase in output without added. Glare like the hid so. In most newer reflector, housings, the LED. Design-led. Is going, to be your best bet so now I've got our projector, headlight here and when, we flip this on you can see big difference, from reflector. To projector, headlights in the way the beam pattern looks mainly, because we've got a cut-off shield that's gonna block any light from, going over that cutoff line with. Our halogen bulb installed here you can see we've got a nice very, even, pattern there's no real strong hotspot, but there is a hot center, point in this projector pattern and from. That we are getting, 760, Lux with our measurement, here now, let's go to hid and see how it looks all. Right we're gonna flip on our hid and you can see again, it's gonna take a couple seconds to get up to full brightness you. Can see we maintain, the nice beam pattern the, projector, is really going to maintain the overall cutoff, no matter what we put in it so the, next thing we have to look at is how, intense the whole pattern is and with, an HID installed, you can see really. Nice pattern as we get a full brightness here and we have 800 lux totals so 10. 15 % brighter than that original halogen, bulb we maintain the whole pattern pretty nicely with, this set up now let's try out our LEDs starting.

With That crease tile LED with a bigger chip when we turn this on you can see yes we have a cut-off but there's no hotspot, at all anymore and when, we measure it we only get 280. Lux so that's, half, the output from that original halogen, these, bulbs are huge downgrade. So again for, the LED bulbs it really depends on the quality of the LED bulb let's put in a good one our dive dynamics sl1, and see how it does so. When, we have an LED installed, on this headlight with good focus, you can see our hotspot, returns, and on, this one we have 780. Lux which is a slight upgrade from our halogen performance, of course with, the LED will get much more lifespan, and the, modern color as well compared, to halogen this, is gonna really vary based on your projector good. Projectors, are gonna have really high Lux with halogens, so this, one is a honda they have decent projectors, Subaru's, not nearly as good but. In many cases HID, might, be a better choice in some, projectors, as LED. Continues, to catch up so what, you can expect for projector headlights is that LED bulbs will be, slight upgrade from halogen, with, all the features of LED, HID. It's, a complex, system but it, might give you better performance in projectors, as we, said for reflectors, LED, is the absolute, best choice because of the better focus, so. As you can see there's a lot of factors to consider when, choosing LED, or HID, especially. Depending on which type of headlamp, you have and the, quality of the design of your headlamp, or, just. The convenience, and lifespan. That you're looking for for your solution you. Can find more information at dire dynamics calm or feel, free to contact us thanks, for watching.

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I've wondered about HID for years. I'm sorta glad I didn't go that route. I'm going to be installing my SL1 Low and High beams hopefully this weekend. Very nice product for sure. Lots of great info in this video thanks for show us.

Ordered the stage series bars. Can't wait to try them! You guys need to do a review on the stage series bars like this video!

I use the SL1's and all of your other interior led bulbs on my Camaro. Quality products top to bottom, for reals. The best! Thanks for also taking us to school with this video!

Thanks so much for your feedback and continued support!

Great honest information, thanks

Awesome video!

Extremely informative---thanks.

What a great informative video, thanks!

So, to install led lamps, no need any additional installations? Only change factory lamp to diode dynamics?

Hello! Yes, our SL1 LED Headlight bulbs are plug and play replacements for most Low Beam and High beam applications. If you have any other questions, just give us a call at 314-205-3033, Monday-Friday 9 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@diodedynamics.com!

Very well made and informative video!

This is why I get all my LED's form my cars from DD. I'm lucky you guys are close so it get here super fast and the quality is always top notch. Just got a new Subaru that has Halogen VS my previous one that had HID's. I've been waiting DD to have a good LED alternative.

Very informative except the comparison would be easier to illustrate if you dumped the Honda projector and compared a Ram projector to a Ram reflector.

Hi Joseph! We appreciate the feedback, and will be sure to pass that along to our media team!

If I put a set oh SL1's in my 2018 ram reflector style headlight, since I have the DRL turned on will it cause any issues with the LED? DRL in the rams is a lower power output, not sure on the actual voltage, but know it's not full power.

@Moose81 Thanks for your support!

Awesome, I'll be ordering soon

Hi there! That's a great question. While the included Anti-Flicker Modules will prevent any errors or "bulb out" warnings, the SL1 will operate at full brightness any time it's on.

I've spent hundreds of dollars and countless hours scouring online forums figuring out what works best for headlight upgrades over the past several years. This video pretty much sums up and confirms what I've discovered, but in only 25 minutes. I really appreciate how DD presents facts between systems right up until the end when they start naming and promoting their LED solution. No matter, as in my case LED's are the way to go at the end of the day. These guys need to do a head to head with their SL1 LED and TRS's Morimoto 2Stroke to see who's best. From my research those are the two heavyweight contenders for our Joe-public hard earned dollars. I still need to upgrade the high beams on my 2014 Mazda 6 - whose product should I buy next???

Do you have *L.E.D.s* for my *2019 Tucson* yet? [begging on my knees...] Also, you really didn't focus too much about high-beam usage??? How come? Don't I want them in my high beams as well?

Hi Peter! Please go ahead and give us a call at 314-205-3033 Monday-Friday 9 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@diodedynamics.com, and our service team will be happy to see which of our LED upgrades are compatible with your Tucson! And great question! We focused on low beam output for this particular video because the majority of night time driving is done with low beams alone. However, we definitely recommend a quality LED bulb for high beams as well!

Always use led bulbs for high beam. The warm up time for HIDs is just a killer when you’re driving at night. Unless you have Bi-halogen (dual hi-low halogen projectors) in that case I’d go with hid.

Hi Jeff, thank you for the feedback! We will definitely pass that along to our media team. If we hear anything from them about upcoming comparison testing, we'll be sure to share!

Thank you!!!

Thanks for your support, Pete!

Quality HID are still king. At least in the aftermarket..

@Jason M Fairly reliable and cheap yeah, but I have flashlights from walmart that are brighter than a lot of stock halogen headlights lol.

wantsanewvehicle Halogen is really the king. Reliable and cheap

@Jason M I live in rural pennsylvania, so I like to be able to see. Whitetail deer are every where and I swear they are actually trying to get hit.

has anyone heard of GTR lighting? Sorta pricey but ive seen other reviews on other YouTube channels.

I purchased a set of your bulbs almost a year ago from headlight evolution for 2014 impala. The LEDs are growing dim and spotted.

very helpful video, thanks

You should test a Subaru housing.

Whats a really good led bulb for my brights, i still like h.i.d's 8000k

Sometimes cheap is boring..

Hell yea...

Big thanks to this guy talking us through these differences. Best comparison vid on YouTube!

Thank you for all these precious informations ❤️

We are very sorry to hear about that! Just give us a call at 314-205-3033, Monday-Friday 9 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@diodedynamics.com so our Service Team can get this resolved for you!

Hey there! Just search your vehicle on our website to see the replacement options that we have to offer. If you have any other questions, just give us a call at 314-205-3033, Monday-Friday 9 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@diodedynamics.com!

@Diode Dynamics Hehe - why are you too *chicken* to say that you *still* do not have a low beam in *H7* /cry And no *ETA* either as of this writing... Honestly, I am not trying to throw shade here! I want to give you all my money! High Beams! Low beams! Fog lights! C'mon guys, what's the hold up???

Dude seriously looks like Tom Brady. Doubt he made $70mil for this video though.

Thanks for the kind words, James!!

We will definitely pass that request along to our media team!

@Peter Crockett Thanks for your patience! We are in the development stages of an H7 LED replacement option currently. Once we have a firm release date, we will relay that information on our social media pages and through our monthly newsletter. The H7 collar and plug are difficult to replicate, so that's why they will take a little longer to get to market than the other sizes we currently offer. For now, H7 HID Kits are the only replacement option we offer for that bulb size. If you need anything else in the meantime, just let us know!

Excellent video! Thanks!

Can/should I swap my HID bulbs/lamps to LED?

Very much informative. Thanks

HEY JUDE! Thanks so much for your feedback, we will pass that message along for you.

My car came with HIDs from factory, but with a reflector, and mine go from blue to white, to an almost yellowish tint when they warm up

Hey David! Just give us a call at 314-205-3033, Monday-Friday 9 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@diodedynamics.com for information on replacement options for your vehicle!

Hey there! You should definitely switch to LEDs if you have after-market HIDs in a reflector housing. If you have an OEM HID setup though, you'll need to stick with that type of bulb. If you have any other questions, just give us a call at 314-205-3033, Monday-Friday 9 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@diodedynamics.com!

Great informative video. I have a 2019 Hyundai Sonata sel with projector headlights. I was thinking of upgrading to LED or any other type of bulb for a bigger output. Based off the video it seems like led was a good option but depending on the make of the car. For this type of car what do you think would be a good upgrade from stock? A good LED or switching to HID. Prior to this video I was convinced not to go down the LED route because some studies have shown that the main reason they’re brighter is because they scatter more light so they look brighter but their performance is not as good as a regular stock halogen

Hey Alex! You could go with an HID conversion kit for those projector housings if you want the most noticeable increase in brightness. If you prefer something that will last longer, try out our SL1 Headlight LEDs. They are still a big upgrade in output, and they are much easier to install. If you have any other questions, just give us a call at 314-205-3033, Monday-Friday 9 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@diodedynamics.com!

I won't use anything but GTR. I have GTR HID 5000k headlights in my pickup. So much better than my stock halogens. Pricey, but I want quality when it comes to headlights.

I feel asleep to him. Very informative not super easy to digest

Smart dude

Love my DiodeDynamics SL1's in my 2016 Charger. Thanks for the R&D guys, beauty products!

Very informative video on a subject I had no clue about. What I've garnered from watching this is that I will leave my cars lighting exactly the way it came from the factory.

Sorry, but no halogen automotive bulb puts out 1500 lumens. Even aftermarket halogens produce about 800 lumens at best. This is still a very informative video

@Jason M I use HID in my projectors and I haven't changed the capsule in eight years. Good HID's are very reliable, but more expensive and worlds brighter than halogen

Nice!! I would love to try this on my car and make new content for my channel. Thanks for sharing.

You might check your numbers again - almost all headlamp bulbs produce 1200-1600 lumens depending on type and test voltage. H11 is 1350 lm ±10% @ 13.2V, for example. Reference: page 52 of ECE Regulation 37 http://www.unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/trans/main/wp29/wp29regs/R037r7e.pdf

I'm glad you woke up again to comment!

Thanks!!

@jason m which hid are you saying are reliable?

Jason M Reliable he says. Replaced 4-5 bulbs a year in my Subaru. Did an hid projector retrofit. Twice as bright. Haven’t changed a bulb in 6 years.

Are you related to engineering explained? Thanks for the nap.

@Diode Dynamics Zing!

Can you compare your bulbs to morimoto bulbs?

Hi Kenyon, thank you for the feedback! We will definitely pass that along to our media team. If you have any other questions, just give us a call at 314-205-3033, Monday-Friday 9 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@diodedynamics.com!

This is really educational. Thanks heaps for taking the time to discuss all the different scenarios and display examples of each. Much appreciated

This dude really knows his stuff, am impressed.

Alternate Universe Tom Brady...

Thanks for that feedback! If you have any other questions, just give us a call at 314-205-3033, Monday-Friday 9 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@diodedynamics.com!

I love the HID light bulbs you can see the police alot Sooner !

Are you willing to test our headlight for free?

Thank you for all the in depth info. I have a 2012 Camry se I think a projector headlight. I think i'll stick with halogens. Money is more important to me than minimal improvement.

LEDs today are still purely designed they don't get enough cooling and they don't last as long as they should

excellent professional presentation. I guess I'll stay with my OEM solution for now.

this guy has like 10 wrenches on his slat wall, a ford shitstang grille, some tires strewn about, and a parts caddy... WOW, HE REALLY MUST BE AN EXPERT!!!!

oh, and a wally-world toolbox, and wire rolls (is that cat-5?? lol)

My LED philips lumiled ZES lasted about 2,5 years..

My HID headlights (Xenon) lasted 11 years. The other one is still going and still is bright as the new one.

Is LED overheating exclusively caused by design or could it be voltage? For example what if a half volt resistor or even less was tacked onto an LED?

Great questions! Both of those things are definitely contributing factors to premature failures. Without a reliable inline driver, voltage spikes can easily cause LED chip failures. We use a boost-mode circuit for our SL1 LED bulbs, which prevents thermal imbalances for the LED chips over time, so you won't experience those types of failures. The SL1 also has current-monitoring circuitry that mimics the electrical characteristics of a stock halogen bulb, so dash warnings should not occur after installation and resistors or capacitors should not be required. We do offer plug-and-play CANBUS Anti-Flicker Modules that can be used inline with our SL1 LEDs for pickier electrical systems though. If you have any other questions, just give us a call at 314-205-3033, Monday-Friday 9 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@diodedynamics.com!

Hello, this is Emma, the sales manager from Raych Auto Lighting Company. We are a manufacturer from China and we specialized in off road led light bars/led headlight/hid xenon kit for almost 10 years. Now we are looking for wholesalers and dealers. My whatsapp: +86 17820549917

These LEDs are way too bright to be at the eye level of drivers. Especially on the highways. States need to crack down on the maximum allowed brightness and issue tickets to vehicles that can blind people on the road.

I would like to see the SL1 vs GTR lighting gen 3 vs Stedi LED Lighting. See whos got better thermals and what not

Are the SL1 led available for the 2019 VW Tiguan sel r-line?

The only thing I care about is which one most quickly irrecoverably burns out the retinas of drivers in the opposing lane?

wish i found this video before buying my car's LED spotlight..thanks for the video!

No problem! If you have any other questions, just give us a call at 314-205-3033, Monday-Friday 9 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@diodedynamics.com!

@Diode Dynamics Boost? What are you boosting up to? The ideal config would be 2 groups of 3 leds in series. zes max foward voltage is 3.2V (2.8V nominal) giving a total foward voltage of 9.6V max (8.4V norminal) @ 1200mA -1500mA. This needs a buck converter. I also like how you make out that a phosphore coating is so expensive to change, when there is no change in price from 2700K to 5700K. Cheap companies ues the reject batches of phosphore coatings with sub par wavelengths uv/blue leds which is why they are so bad. But Philips is the second best LED manufacture behind Fluence.

@joshweaver38 it's a stand off

bLu They can also see you a lot sooner!

how good or bad are LASFIT LEDS, i have them in a 2017 civic hatch and gmc terrain both with projectors lenses and mine seem super bright compared to factories, entire roads lite up and with fogs n reg beams on i get flashed alot thinking my high beams are on

How would these LED bulbs perform inToyota Camry halogen projectors?

So what type led do you recommend for my 2009 Chevy Silverado 1500 WT?

What would you recommend for a motorcycle (2001 Suzuki gxsr)?

Hey Caleb! We share your concern and that is the main reason we started making these instructional videos. You need to make sure that you are using the right type of replacement bulbs for your headlamps, and ensure that they are aimed/seated properly after installation to avoid that glare that everyone hates so much. Check out our video below for more information about that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb_AupXBhac If you have any other questions, just give us a call at 314-205-3033, Monday-Friday 9 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@diodedynamics.com!

Thanks for the request! We'll pass it along and see what our team can do.

Hey there! It looks like that might be an H7 bulb size, which we do not have available for the SL1 at this time, unfortunately. We do offer Universal HID conversion kits for that size though. If you have any other questions, just give us a call at 314-205-3033, Monday-Friday 9 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@diodedynamics.com!

excellent professional presentation. I guess I'll stay with my Acura HID solution for now.

@Diode Dynamics Maybe he meant a singular bulb and you guys were referring to a pair?

Lots of info

I just drive during the day. Awesome info btw

What a gem of a vid.. alot of good info.

Do you guys not offer a h1 led kit? Didn’t see it on the site.

Subscribed Bro ...

Very informative. Wonderfully presented. Thank you

Excellent information and comparison.

Toyota already uses LED. They work great. But you will need an LED that's at least $50 to not cause glare and to have enough "throw" to see ahead.

Try a flare gun; you can reach out and touch then at 130mph of net speed.

Jimmy De'Souza lmfao

You may want to look at hid. Co. UK as they do hid s with a coating for reflecter headlights, I had some on mine and they were brilliant

What is the song in the beginning?

hid's

Hid

Piss take. U tight arse

Chinese are starting to sell spotlights with 200 watt HIDs in them. does anybody know if there are such HIDs? Cuz nowhere where on the market I could find them.

HID projectors with high flap in my Silverado and Camaro. Then LED in the stock high spot to match the color, but you can unplug the LED and not know it's missing as the light output is just nothing next to the HID.

45 watts not volts

D3 and D4 HID bulbs operate with 42-45 volts at 35 watts, as defined in UN Regulation No. 99. Page 26 of this document. https://www.unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/trans/main/wp29/wp29regs/r099r2e.pdf

The sun gets the job done too!

We do not - H1 is an extremely small, high-power bulb, so it's difficult to design a reliable solution that isn't a drastic decrease in power from the original halogen.

Thanks for watching, John!

Check out our video on LED focus - it's possible you have a bulb that isn't well-designed for optical performance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGmoDtdNqIk

Hey Joshua! Unfortunately, we haven't done testing on the Camry Halogen projector headlights just yet, but you can expect roughly a 30%-70% of light in focus at the primary hotspot. If you have any other questions, just give us a call at 314-205-3033, Monday-Friday 9 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@diodedynamics.com!

Hey Tracey! For reflector-style housings, we highly recommend our SL1 LED headlight bulbs since they will not cause glare to on-coming traffic like an HID kit would in that type of housing. If you have any other questions, just give us a call at 314-205-3033, Monday-Friday 9 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@diodedynamics.com!

Hey there! If you can fit one of our SL1 LED headlight bulbs inside of that reflector-housing, that would be the best option. If you have any other questions, just give us a call at 314-205-3033, Monday-Friday 9 a.m.- 5 p.m. CST, or shoot us an email at contact@diodedynamics.com!

@Manuel Nuñez thanks!

Might I suggest some Alla Lighting 10,000 lumen headlights in a reflective assembly? Works like a charm.

@Liam Cooper I don't have all of that information at hand, but if you email us at contact@diodedynamics.com, we can get more information from our engineering team for you!

Not everyone is a dumbfuck like you bro.

LoL, I always wondered when the package says 30% brighter and has the same watts as some of the other ones. Back when I bought these bulbs, I bought the ones that had the highest wattage. In one vehicle I changed the harness to except the higher wattage bulb.

Yep. A little misleading! Some are slightly more than others, but all of them, by regulation, have to be a certain output level. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/consumers-who-bought-sylvania-automotive-lighting-could-get-money-from-a-30-million-settlement-273557191.html

A 35W HID bulb can be driven at higher power levels, but will wear out extremely quickly. It's possible that they are just using standard bulbs. Though I would hope they have some kind of customized, larger HID bulb.

Can we get an H13 LED please?

diode dynamics only makes bulbs for Japanese cars? That's too bad.

Super well done video

@Garnet Suss , we do have a great network of installers all over the world! I have included a link to that map below. https://www.diodedynamics.com/find-a-dealer

@Diode Dynamics unfortunately I just bought a Morimoto/Hylux kit from a local TRS dealer. If I weren't a stickler about trying to support local shops I may have placed an order with you! Do you have any dealers in Winnipeg?

Thanks for the support Garnet!

ooh I see! Wow thanks for answering with that insight!

Well some of it. The LED stuff gets abit fuzzy.

That is a size that our engineering team is currently working on! Stay tuned into social media for any new product releases!

@Diode Dynamics Sorry. Liked your video and want to buy but can't seem to navigate around your site. I'm looking for a set of Led headlight bulbs for a 92 Ford Mustang. Can you direct me?

Not true! We have many different options for Ford, GMC, Chrylser, etc as well on the website!

This answers a lot of my questions! Thank you for the great video!

@D Evans, shoot us an email at contact@diodedynamics.com and we would be happy to look into this further for you!

I want to buy led but what’s a good name brand

I just junked the Low Beam HID system for my Lexus IS300 Headlights. I replaced the bulbs with "Sylvania 9006 LED Bulbs" bypassed and threw away the "Ballasts" The feed for the 'Ballast"was connected directly to the connector pigtail provided with the LED Bulbs and an after market connector. Initial results are excellent.

Use fastbright and good quality hid also 4300k color temp bulb.

So this is more of a comparison of style of headlamps.

What about hids burning projector headlamps. Most projector headlamps aren't built for hid. Unless it's an actual hid oem projector headlamp

I've got the SL1 in my 2014 Silverado LT Z71. They work great. I aimed them down a little so they don't shoot out to far. If they shoot out to far that equals glare to on coming traffic. Make sure they are aimed right. They do have a very good cut off.

I purchased led bulbs with anti flicker adapters and the headlight will just turn off. I contacted the company and they said I needed to disable my drl's. Car is a 2015 300c. Question is should i just return the bulbs as the could be an issue, or should I disable my drl's (don't really want to)

Hey man where are you located? I trust you with my LED lights installation.

THE BEST OPTION WOULD BE HID, CHEERS

We are based out of St. Louis, Missouri, however we do not perform any installations. Take a look at our dealer locator map to find the installer closest to you - thanks for the support!

The purpose of the video is really just to help educate, as there is a lot of different lighting options, and equal amounts of mis-information out there.

When utilizing an HID conversion kit in the low beams on any projector style housing, you are limiting glare to oncoming traffic. When utilizing a 35W kit, there will not be any damage to a "halogen projector".

Glad to hear that you are happy with your SL1s!

Hello! Please shoot us an email at contact@diodedynamics.com and we would be happy to look into this further for you - thanks!

Head on over to our website at at www.diodedynamics.com for some great LED replacement options!

You are very welcome - thanks for the support!

Not true with our SL1! Feel free to give ours a try, we think you'll be happily surprised with how bright and how long these will last!

Recommendation for led upgrade for 2011 f150? The h13 halogens just seem to be not as efficient as other vehicle's headlights on the road. Also can you do the same type of video but on fog lights? Thanks

Put a set in my 2019 Subaru Impreza Sport last night, low beams for now. Wow, nice improvement. I like the white light, not blue tinted at all. Good cut off in my reflector style housing. Install was not too difficult. I've submitted pics on your site. Now I need to do the Hi Beams, they literally pale in comparison to the low :) Thanks guys, always good stuff. ~peaty

One video, all the answers. I thank you

Those error cancelers are just filter capacitors to boost the output without allowing the current to spike. :)

HIDs are also known as negative resistance bulbs. They will pull as much current as possible for as long as possible. That’s is also the usage for the ballast to limit the current. Over time, that wider arc gap pulls even more current than the ballast is rated for so it tends to kill electrical stuff if neglected over time.

Probably going to have to switch my Durango from my recently installed LEDs to HIDs. Got good quality LEDs and they just arent quite bright enough. They are almost as good as factory halogen. The color is phenomenal but the total light output is just not up to par. Ready to get some HIDs. Seen several videos where they are far superior in Durango Projectors

For the H13 size, we do only offer HID conversion kits at this time. We are working on an LED for this size, however it is still in the development stage. In regards to fog lights, we do offer the same style bulbs for these locations. Head on over to our website under the "Choose Your Vehicle" section to see all of the options available there!

Thanks Pete!

@Diode Dynamics Another possibility is using bulbs from non automotive sources. spotlights being quite a bit bigger than typical headlamps maybe they are using the bulbs designed for video projectors or DLP rear projection TVs.

@David Kearns, this is certainly something we do explore on a regular basis! Our engineering team is always evaluating new chip sets that come to market to see if they would be acceptable for future products!

Great informative video. Question...I have a 2013 Kia Optima SX-L Turbocharged. I changed out my HID bulbs because I noticed one headlight was not as bright as the other. After changing both sides with new bulbs I still see the same problem. Could it be the OEM ballast? Thanks.

An excellent orator for a change. He speaks properly and clearly. Most informative, thank you.

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