RUNOFFBROKE Interview

foreign [Music] people think that you're way better freestyling than you are who the [ __ ] says that a few people I heard that who the [ __ ] says sorry for my I don't know some of the [ __ ] the people say man you know I mean Chinese Whispers bro yeah maybe it's because I'm spitting a written and I think it's a free stuff you know what I mean yeah I know about them once they think they're the best ones yeah yeah I can spit any time you know I mean but like if you have me at a party while I'm [ __ ] when I'm up you know I mean when I'm up in the sky and I remember watching it and thinking oh geez this guy he talks okay I bet she has music [ __ ] I'm not gonna I bet you this music is gonna be terrible and I put I went to go listen to your music and I put it on and I just sat there and just for face sank I was like [ __ ] this is actually good because I went and the song the song I Put On a [ __ ] yeah the song I Put on was TV screen [Music] everything [Music] like if you hear that name you're not gonna think that's a rapper an artist that is in the same place as me should not be releasing an album you missed this [ __ ] so [ __ ] much man you know yeah not like getting out your beans and going on stage and having the crack this game is full of heartbreak and false promises the worst interview all my life just run out of broke check out my new single 16 shout out to my boy if you're on the 18 p.m the track who made the beat I'm here is hot air balloons I have to say now I did watch that interview again this weekend I think I was a bit harsh at the time I was like look this isn't that bad I think maybe the issue I might have with that interview at the time was I thought you were very and then she texts back and she just goes oh it would be I would be better if I didn't have a girlfriend or some [ __ ] like that you know let her know and then she was like oh well text me back when you don't have one I was like all right six months later I don't have a girlfriend yo what's happening uh [ __ ] I don't know I wouldn't really bother me nobody there was plenty there when I needed it yeah braggadocious or like [ __ ] bigger yourself but then I've kind of come around on that relative to the age you were and the success you'd had up to that point you know maybe it was justified because by that stage you'd had songs which had 76 000 hundred thousand views and that's not even me looking at it now because I remember looking at it at the time and that was the views that were there but at the same time also in this interview like I think it's really really interesting looking back at it now you also said that part of your motivation when you were younger was people slagged you over it so you were like I'm gonna have to get good so that you [ __ ] you can turn around and tell me that I'm good which is in this Essence what happened where I watched your interview without hearing your music which is strange I know but it's what happened and I was like I don't like this guy and then I put your music on and I was like this is actually good and I don't want it to be at that stage I'd already been through so much as an artist as well that like you know I mean I feel like I have solidified moist but as an Irish rapper I don't feel like I've solidified my spot as a big rapper you know what I mean I feel like in the scene I'm known people know who I am and that's about it yeah I'm looking to get to the stage where I'm a well-respected and bigger artist that I can go overseas still shows and do what I want to do you know what I mean it's hard yeah yeah because you were talking about where you've been before that um when I find this really interesting like as part of the story of where Irish hip hop is now as well as your own story is you talked in the interview about how there was this thing called Michael Blaze she lost your skills it was a record label well it wasn't a record label it was it was essentially a collective yeah it's called trap noise ran into a freestyler done when I was a kid I forget exactly what I think it was idiom beats was doing this [ __ ] uh promo thing he's trying to promote his beat so he's getting rappers to wrap over his Beats on YouTube do a freestyle or whatever and then you stick it open you could win a beat or whatever that [ __ ] was right and I've done that and little did I know that this shitty tiny little competition I got like 100 views possibly maybe [ __ ] changed my life yeah essentially it's not me yeah this fella called Dan custardly he [ __ ] ran into that video because he entered in the competition as well found this race though he was like this kid's [ __ ] 12 years old you know what I mean and like I didn't it was [ __ ] but he saw something there he was like this is good this kid's 12 years [ __ ] old and he's doing this so you got your man trafficking it onto me and they said look we're doing a show in Dublin in [ __ ] two three weeks come down and play a set or play a song or whatever so I made a sandwich around Dan went down played the set it went [ __ ] terribly I've got way too [ __ ] Stones man the [ __ ] I took a few drags off I joined up in the smoking area it was only like 12 years old when I'm in and there was a [ __ ] there was about two three grams in this thing man I talked about four drags off this thing and I was on the [ __ ] Moon brother I was on the moon so I was walking around I remember we were walking outside the venue to get a bit filled the boys all walked into the venue we continued walking down the street man I kept on walking but I had to call me over to get me back in this song comes around I had to do one verse I woke up on stage a man calls me up I don't know why you called me up because he was only playing his first song which wasn't even our track so I was standing on the stage like a [ __ ] man [ __ ] holding the microphone looking out at the crowd wrong beats playing I know so Stone I'm thinking because after playing the wrong B [ __ ] you're gonna start rapping yeah I'm rapping over this Fella's [ __ ] chilling man it's bitten my [ __ ] shitty ass verse over one of his older songs the whole Crown there was people pointing and laughing at me or not yeah my dad's standing on the side of the [ __ ] crowd and he's looking at me and you know there's almost a little oh what is he doing he doesn't even know I'm Stone to death and [ __ ] it out yeah so your man kicked me off stage I came back up I done reverse went back upstairs came to the realization that it went terribly but your mind Trav came up and just said look man happens to the rest of us yeah I'd like you to join Wake Up layers yeah so that's how it all started playing it's literally it was a group of people from 20 [ __ ] five to [ __ ] 13 years of age which was me yeah and we were all making music together yeah and this Mica Blaze group included oh Shane Malcolm who I don't think he's making music anymore yes bits and pieces and sequence sequence was there he wasn't he wasn't there for very long though he was he was a part of it for only a few months while I was also someone who you didn't know jafaris he used to be a part of the microphone but this is before I sing street right yeah this is well before he he was called profound back then [Music] no way yeah that was his name back then if you look up profound I'll show you my phone in a few hour videos yeah and they're [ __ ] we were supposed to make a [ __ ] EP called black and white from Michael Blaze and correctness that spawned out of that was nameless yeah it kind of yeah so like Michael plays what's going on for a while and I was about 16 I think around the time with Amos around that time I was getting [ __ ] up a whole lot wasn't really making a whole lot of music same way when I was on nameless as well but oh Shane approached me and he was like look I was starting to think I'm gonna do it here uh you know I mean [ __ ] he has money he can [ __ ] support us and [ __ ] push this thing and he's yeah the kind of stand the record label yeah his name was Ken command yeah [ __ ] running a CBD business out to Spain now so he was he was trying to push Oliver's as young artists or whatever and trying to kind of push the sport if there's nothing on the rock yeah yeah and for anyone who's like watching nameless because the thing is is that like if you go and look at the name on this channel there's two of them one still has some old stuff on it and then one of them just has a sequence track um you there was like you only had a song on it which I am I remember was all we do with Matthew Nolan um I'd say you're not sorry that that song doesn't exist anymore I'm so [ __ ] happy that thing's gone yeah have you ever heard that I have heard that my accent my ex like that so I like that song look I I'm sure you're probably me didn't really feel like my voice was the best I'm not gonna lie with you yeah I wasn't too proud of that one yeah I do kind of think there are some performers where it's like he doesn't talk about the real stuff and it sounds like they're being way too harsh in the space but at the same time it's like there's that motivation to get better and stuff like that everyone has their own Evolution you evolve constantly like I'm that's why like even rappers who have absolute hits they play the song so many times like acting up to one of my songs from ages back see I swear this shit's gonna get better cause I know that at the moment you feeling under the weather see the wiping on my shoulders I turn that [ __ ] to a feather so we can carry here yeah [ __ ] ProForm that song so many [ __ ] times at the start I loved it now if you turn that thing on I want to rip my ears off you know my shoulders I turn that [ __ ] to a feather so we can carry here hey yes I feel it though I gotta change this tired of every day been rapping up about the same [ __ ] oh Shawna Capital lawyer is like a [ __ ] when I was 16 or [ __ ] 15 I got [ __ ] 60 000 [ __ ] videos on acting up and then I just didn't release [ __ ] I was like yeah I'm doing good oh yeah I'm getting random phone calls off numbers that I don't know singing the lyrics to me and [ __ ] I'm walking down the street people are singing the lyrics across the road like you wouldn't think 70 000 viewers would do that but it did yeah and at that stage I was like God it'd be funny when I release the next track I'll get the envious I like I thought I've had I'm sure you've had it yourself is that after doing what you've done for 11 years with the successes you've had and that one thing your music has kind of lacked is one of a better word centralization is that you've got like 67 000 views here on this channel you've got 100 000 views here on this channel you've got 11 000 views here on this channel and that if it was just if there was just like one channel like obviously every now and again you have to play the game we'll talk about this in a bit your new music Perfection and stuff like that is going out in seven hip-hop uh but obviously like if there was like I mean I know there is there was there is an old like there's the runoff Road Channel which still has some of your songs from years ago and stuff like that which we'll talk about in a bit uh but if just like a couple of more of those hits kind of like been in the one place you would have had like that that like a following yeah place a place to keep everything that's that's what we're trying to actually concentrate on now yeah because of course I mean like because you know we're coming up it's going to be 2023 there'll be 10-year anniversary the first versatile track every single versatile song they've ever made apart from one featuring Acosta has gone out on the Outburst Channel and it's they've they've done very well that's the thing yeah yeah yeah and I mean that was that was always one thing that I was very concentrated on when I was younger but it was a problem with being a parent of all these things like Michael players are nameless [ __ ] then Citizen Soldier entertainment which was the thing over in Germany yes uh that was the problem with being a part of all these things because everyone who's running these channels they're not thinking of the individual artists that they're thinking of pushing the channel yeah so they want the channel to do well they don't want essentially the artists well they do want the artists to do well but not as much as they are just those you know what I'm saying yes when it comes to me I was always saying I want to have my own channel I want to upload my own [ __ ] there they start in the order but nobody else would allow it so yeah when it came to that I was like do I want to have all of these extra things that I can work with with these collectives or do I want to go on my own and deal with it yeah and that's when you're a kid and you don't have a place to record and you don't have money yeah that's what you want to do uh you've been on nameless you were around like a characters like uh like sequence and oh shame obviously say sequence analog but like just these these guys are in the mix then somewhere around this time you moved on to working with Citizen Soldier entertainment and could you just tell us about that because from the outside perspective a teenager Irish rapper is nice bro bro we'll go into [ __ ] audacity yeah uh well like how does that happen how do you get to like lead touring in Germany at that age well um so there's a rapper called infidelics [Music] an absolute Legend of a man is from Texas you just decided [ __ ] this I want to make music I'm just going to [ __ ] off I'm gonna buy a speaker I'm gonna [ __ ] just go around Europe and just figure it out and that's exactly what he's doing and when he was in Ireland he found my video uh acting up and he was like oh you're at the open you're gonna answer me on Facebook and he was like hey let's let's link up because every country you go to you link up with these young rappers and they just try to help them out or just talk to them and just try to find out more about the sandwich from his point very smart you know what I mean like he was going to all these different countries like there's not a single country in Europe where there's rappers that don't know who if Alex is this fella is just you're a boy and then nobody knows him in the US yeah but uh yeah so he I met him uh he liked the music and we just continued talking on Facebook and stuff for years he kind of helped go hit me kind of with the music and stuff and then he was saying to me look man they sent me a picture and it was him buskin in a pack and there was easily about two or three thousand people standing around them and you guys look this is what I have out here I've asked you to come out here a billion times you know what I mean um always said you would and you haven't I'm not hating on you for that but I'm just saying this is what's here if you can't Camille do it and I was like okay whatever and I looked at that I thought that was dope spoke to him on the phone and stuff for a bit that was Grandin went off on the drug bins went wild for a while and it was just under session for ages and then one day I woke up skagging her death man in bed sitting at this bus stop freeze and felt like a pure junkie and I was like I'm going to [ __ ] Berlin [ __ ] this I'm getting the [ __ ] over here went over for a visit and he was there with a man called Pablo Smith from crazy Laura school man love your pubs but um [ __ ] Pablo Smith was managing me at the time um because I jumped ahead Paula Smith was managing him at the time and then uh they were speaking to me brought me to a few gigs with another Scottish rapper won't say his name because it didn't work out for him they were going to bring him on tour and they said [ __ ] Testament with one gig brought them to the gig he was annoying as [ __ ] so they were like okay look I'm sorry I can't bring you out to our water you're too annoying uh and your man's sitting there crying on the couch and then he well he was sitting there crying the coaches because Jordan you wanna go on tour yeah it was like I forget exactly what it was but it was like 19 days 18 showers yeah it was [ __ ] crazy absolutely I mean like I'm sure like obviously like you'd look at like performers and stuff like that you know like I don't know just some some just take any rapper and then say yeah 19 days 18 shows and you'd be like yeah that's what you get paid to do but you're I mean you were still in school I worry at the time were you almost or like just coming out of it you're still in college I dropped out dropped out a secondary school because I was like [ __ ] this I want to taste music and moved up the garlic so a lot of [ __ ] going on at home you know what I mean I was just paranoid out my head constantly with all the [ __ ] that was going on and I was like [ __ ] this I need to head off somewhere and do something else yeah you know what I mean so I went to the guy wait to chase after the music and [ __ ] after I just got out of college then [ __ ] after brought in for a while this would would have been at the same time that Irish rap movement was a thing which was like the home of the MC thing [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] look at how much that's changed now we're [ __ ] uh yeah essentially I was just hearing all these young fellas jumping on these bees and they're all gone Cherry like it was just I just found it very [ __ ] cheap it still is very cheap but I understand at the end of the day people just want to party and enjoy songs obviously you have your uh you have your own thoughts about what Irish rap movement was maybe you wouldn't have wanted your music there yeah yeah but then of course we had dear fact and New Era pop off uh did you ever think or reach out to like sequence or anything like that and see if there was a home for your music was there was that something was that something no but I'm not well we'll talk about what's what's coming here but even like as those channels when they were in like their Heyday their Peak was that something you were interested in to be fair man uh I wasn't really paying attention to what was going on you're not gonna lie uh like I was getting [ __ ] up the whole time and I mean just going on the session all the time so I wasn't thinking about where to put me music or whatever I wasn't even making music for a lot of that time so I didn't even talk to him really until 2019 yeah then that's when I saying oh shit's going well on his channel we'll see what's going on yeah and uh like we're still in talks about like what we could do so we'll have a look at it we'll see if we can do something but as well as that there's also the whole thing with the American accent [Music] s maybe somebody just feels more natural doing an accent because that's where they take their inspiration from that's what they feel safe doing you are bang on the button Yeah Bang on the button my favorite rapper when I was a kid right this this is how this all [ __ ] went I'll tell you the story you know the story from the owner in one show when I was a kid Mac Miller released [ __ ] um Donald Trump Donald Trump that was it I was about to call it what the [ __ ] but uh [ __ ] he released Donald Trump that was my favorite song and when I first heard it I first heard it I heard it in a [ __ ] Montage or [ __ ] like [ __ ] quick scopes for my Halo video when I was a kid right and I didn't see Mac Miller's face his voices are high and [ __ ] you know sounds almost childlike and I thought this was a kid rapping so I was like oh this is sick I can't drop and then I looked him up and I said how [ __ ] pasty white he was and how he was like just a white Jewish dude that was essentially rapping you know I mean I thought to myself hey you know I mean it's not only Eminem could do this I could do this as well but what I don't was I started wrapping that verse to my friends you know what I mean they all started sitting there being like oh this is [ __ ] sick and I think I must have just [ __ ] what's the word for a panic in the situation I was like yeah I made that yeah and uh so I continued wrapping that then they found me out when they found me out they were like you're a [ __ ] [ __ ] bro yeah so I sat there and thought to myself I gotta prove these coins wrong yeah that's what they're doing yeah and uh 11 years down the line I'm still approving these coins yeah yeah and so it was kind of like because it started from there you know like it was just with the practice and stuff like that you just like kept it so one thing I was wondering is because you started it so early this probably wasn't a factor maybe it is now is there a specific uh region of America that you go for with your accent or is it just a non-specific American accent it's very non-specific [Music] doesn't matter it depends on the track man you stick on some beats of a New York accent you stick on some beats children like a I can't already controller bro it just kind of happens whatever fits the track I go with uh yeah they all do sounds kind of similar but yeah it was a it was essentially just like I wanted to wrap and I didn't really even know where this wrap was a thing yeah I hadn't listened to any Irish rappers because I was a [ __ ] child you know what I mean I didn't even I barely even knew how to look to her YouTube unless it was looking up a bit and video about college or something so I mean so yeah I started wrapping the American accent and then that's when I found out it was a big No-No I'm a stubborn person so when I was told that I shouldn't be doing that that just gave me a [ __ ] our engine to head to keep on doing it it's annoying that like I'm kind of mad that my take on the accent debate is so softcore but my take is I think it depends on the case and the thing is it's like what are the arguments against it and it's like well be true to yourself but it's like and in the case of Someone Like You to fit someone else's definition of being true to yourself you'd have to do something which is you know against I guess against what you feel is natural yeah and the thing is is even on that end you know people if they didn't say you are being true to yourself with your accent they'd say you weren't being true to yourself with your lyrics on your EP lasting the good times I think you referenced uh your baby mama you don't have a kid do you no yeah yeah I don't even remember that lyrics oh man you're you're deep yeah yeah um uh then the other one is it's like oh well it's just trying to be commercial but then when I think of all the adjectives you can use to describe Irish rap commercial is never one of them there is so few Irish wrap where it's like you can put that on the radio that's gonna do well that's gonna do big well some of the new drill team on Cello's killing her yeah well Excel is kind of a difficult because Carlos like Gaelic drill but I suppose if you were talking like an even like ab992 they're like Nigerian Irish but there are obviously they would be like you know who would you know they talk like us and stuff well like you but they would put on like a London accent or something like that on that topic I think it is interesting that like you to your American accent but you'll use your own accent for the little plug for 97 Hertz yeah of course yeah well like at the end of the day where people will sit there and say he's not being true to himself but who are you to say what's real and what is now lost in the good times that's before a long time ago I used to rap about like a lot of [ __ ] [Music] I can stop now cause honestly I ain't getting a good job now when if I ain't working imma end up getting locked out I was watching your interview and you were talking about like oh when I used to rap about the government and I actually got kind of excited because I was thinking oh he's gonna be rapping about water charges that's going to be because I was rapping about the [ __ ] water in Flint Michigan you know yeah oh the [ __ ] Michael Moore movie yeah yeah I was rapping a little [ __ ] American governments yeah I don't know what it was see it was just what I was listening to bro I was listening to R.A the real good man all these like political rappers bleeding the Mortal technique I've listened all these coins and obviously since that's what I listened to I thought that was cool so I was like I want to do that too [Music] look Irish drop is a broad Church [ __ ] you're just [ __ ] just just put it out there you know we've had all sorts and like there's still stuff you know that like as we've seen we were saying like [ __ ] the types of fire trap we haven't seen I like we were talking about like there's a lot of Irish rappers who get political I haven't seen one single Irish rapper Who's pro-government which I would just let look I get it it's the government nobody likes our government but I think it would be hilarious if like they were rapping over like a video on me or Martin and they were like this is our leader doesn't look great on the Telly that would be that would be an original the other one is I never seen a rapper uh rap about being a virgin which I just think would be an original I thought about it no I mean an Irish rapper oh an Irish rapper because I always remember I was listening to all the new releases at one stage I remember one night I just had the moment I was eating my dinner I wasn't really paying attention this lab travel sacoma puts on a track and then he's rapping his verses and he goes yeah I never been rolled yeah I've never been Road and I remember I nearly spat my dinner I was like you've never been road I was like this might be the best track I've heard this week and then I he had a lyric video and it was I never been rolled as and he's never been a road man I was like oh the most interesting thing about this song just went out the window I left it yeah [ __ ] sake about your normal life your life has to be weird in some sort of the way I mean it's like even if you're not a virgin just lie about it loads of [ __ ] Irish rappers live about being drug dealers you lie about being a virgin you're an original you're spitting straight flat ceremon the amount of oils rappers that walk around Brown Thomas just for a look yeah but even we're we're well you know it's difficult to live [ __ ] a champagne lifestyle and lemonade wages I sold I stole that from Target bollocks by the way that's not a gap year forever original brother it's [ __ ] difficult like if you're not selling drugs you're [ __ ] like I'm working a [ __ ] part-time job right now you know what I mean where I work three nights a week I work the night shift and that's just so I can do music and work on the business every other day of the week but it's [ __ ] rough man trying to be trying to be a rapper especially as well like things don't just blow up with themselves like nobody has a post Malone moment like it's you're the only one that had that [ __ ] he threw that time up and it just blew the [ __ ] up that doesn't happen yeah so I mean like it's about building uh following from the ground up which takes years and a bad consistency and like if you get depressed or anxious or whatever happens in your [ __ ] life you can't take a break you're not allowed because if you do you're going to lose all of the traction that you've just [ __ ] pulled out you know what I mean so I was like all these rappers I understand where they travel without drug dealer thing because it's like you don't want to look like some [ __ ] Average Joe would have played at night before you're a rapper you have a certain appearance that you want to keep up essentially I was trapping if you want to look at it that way yeah I find that kind of cringy potato I'll say it in some songs because it sounds cool yes well it just sounds cringy when it comes from a weird person's melting that's just because it's not what we're used to it's not what we were raised on we weren't raised in the trenches on the [ __ ] corner selling crack you know what I mean we're selling bags of weed or sitting room you know you're selling blade Mandy in the club whatever it is we had we don't look at that as traveling but essentially it is brother certain rappers not just in this country but they've like I'm not even rappers just certain people they've talked about you know achieving success at a young age maybe nobody's showing them what to do and they can kind of lose their way a bit they don't know like how to be responsible with money they can kind of get caught up in the whole the drugs and things like that but what's interesting from talking to you is you were already strung out and things like that before you got that so it's like you put the cap before the horses like you get you're getting lost in [ __ ] the success get lost in the good times the good times that's exactly why the name was there yeah before you actually had this so the thing is it's like what is that like where you've got yourself you were in this let's call it a state and then you put throw the music into it and like obviously you were already making music but the thing is as in already starting to get paid for music starting to go on tours and things like that which is what a lot of people worked towards what was it like to put that on top of it well it was [ __ ] crazy man because like think of it from this perspective right I'm going on tour and I'm getting all this money and you know what I mean I'm sorry but I know when I go home I'm not gonna have a happy birthday it was no no got to go back there uh in Berlin I was sleeping on [ __ ] if it is couch after the tour was Dawn and dusted then come on Pablo ended up leaving the label so I was just left with infidelics and infinix an amazing rapper amazing person but not the best manager too much stuff to deal with with his own music so dealing with mine as well with a lot so then everything kind of fell apart then after the tour kind of went fooky but it was it then I was left homeless again in Berlin kind of trying to chase the music still but it was just once again back to the drugs but basically unable to kind of get out what it's repeating cycle because as an artist brother there's just miles upon miles a heartbreak before you get what you want most artists kind of have this idea that like once he's 13 a little bit of success it's gonna start smooth salmon from there it's not like it's it's so difficult like a drake said it in an interview and I couldn't see anybody say it any better it's like everyone has their who's that moment who is this guy who is this guy what's he doing how's he doing these things it's so hard to hold on to that you know what I mean and like I'm gonna have to find that again another man because like after Calvin and stuff obviously [ __ ] everything kind of went hits up when we were just kind of getting there upward spiral after that tour and stuff you know what I mean when I came home it's basically just like man fair play with you and then that's it yeah like at the end of the day it's not going to be a consistent conversation that we're having it doesn't change much it's just like I'm still coming back and I still don't have a job and I'm still not having I got to go back to yeah it's the same [ __ ] I just got to do something really [ __ ] dope did you have that where people were coming up to you being like ah it must be [ __ ] bro sweet and then but you don't even understand the amount the text I was getting even when I was shooting videos for last in the good times I was out on clown with my uh previous manager Tristan craigo and we we're shooting a video for um what was the [ __ ] song called I'm actually forget the names of my own songs now but uh [ __ ] I'm forget the name of the song anyways it was the one where I was in the [ __ ] uh I could yeah I could there you go you know more than I do [Music] um we're shooting that video and I put some stuff up in the story and the amount detects though about that were like uh brother I'm so happy to see you you [ __ ] made it you finally made it I'm like bro I'm a homeless man I don't have a guy yeah what you mean I made up man you're in college you made it you're in a position where you're touring you've got music out it's getting views what were the submissions like were you getting Like Rappers left right and Center going help me help me help me yes all the [ __ ] time most of them Facebook page has surprisingly enough but uh see when I was on tour I actually didn't have a phone I broke my phone didn't have a phone when I was on tour so I couldn't did you find that liberating not being able to check something no it was awful man I was using my friend's laptop the whole time trying to post [ __ ] about this tour I'm on like I wanted people to know I was doing dope [ __ ] and I couldn't even let them know I couldn't even take a [ __ ] selfie video when there was a dog crowd there I have no videos for the whole thing get my breath [ __ ] I don't even get what's next couple shows [ __ ] hoes [Music] the previous interviews were Jordan Wilson interviews this is gonna be the first runoff broke interview and it's only now that we're getting to foreign fans are going to want to talk about which is the new tracks dandelion 16 perfectionists I'm hating the way to do scheme and I'm next my dick in your woman should love what she get she's like a Parables you go next cause the only thing she can give me his name you have all these singles uh we were talking about lost in the good times I think what's interesting is it's kind of the anomaly in that it's an EP whereas what you've done is something which I wish performers would do more of which is very focused on Singles now I don't know your mentality behind it but what I wish more performers would do is they would put all the attention and love into making really good singles and just put that out because the thing is is that like you know you can you can you know a single when you hear it you know that this is the one that's going to be played everywhere you've spoken in interviews before about you watch the mosh pit how do I get the mosh pit into a song that's something that would go into it that would go into the kind of song you make as a single now we all I think but I think the thing where a lot of rappers come from is is they would have gone into it than they were kids they have memories of albums they love albums and they want to make that experience they had listening to an album solving it for other people the problem is though is that like every now and again you have to have a track six or a track seven I need this [Music] but the problem I have with like performers in this country is it's like they'll have the songs that are the music videos they get all the time the effort the attention and then there's sometimes quite a lot of other songs that are just kind of there and what I've enjoyed about your music is is that it's a lot of singles and there's a lot of love and attention put into them and I was wondering if that was a conscious choice on your part not to make an album and to make each single as good as it could be man 100 thank you for saying yeah man [ __ ] [ __ ] albums like I'm actually making it out and so I shouldn't say that no well it's interesting because the other thing I was going to say is like when I was listening so you have like I think I can't remember what the top five singles on your Spotify at the moment obviously it's like dandelion Perfection stuff like that what was interesting too was listening to all of them and don't get me talking about sub-genres because I don't speak sub-genres but listening to the variety of them that are on Play I was like this almost feels like an album all together even though they were all released apart and I was like listening to that I was like I actually would enjoy hearing an album from you because even you had uh and I should have brought this something we were talking about accents but you had like a mini skit on the end of perfectionist where they were saying I don't believe you're Irish let me see your passport [Music] please leave a message the tone I don't believe you're from Ireland show me your passport which is almost like that was like a nod to like the people to give you [ __ ] for wrapping an American accent was it no not tall that was that was trippy to kids and he's yeah I was talking to him and he wrote my songs and he was like oh so where are you from and I was like I'm from Dublin and he was like no you're [ __ ] not and then he said we got voice note yeah and uh I was like I just said to him here can we put that at the end of the song because like you know I mean it's tripping the kid and I I absolutely [ __ ] loved him man I loved him I was like I was watching all of his songs I was watching all his music videos I was a huge fan and me and my manager were like man I would love to work with trivia kid I'd love to work with trippy kid and then one day I was lying there in bed it was during like during the cover I'm floating in bed and I was just dming all these big artists because I was like [ __ ] it you know I mean they're not making much money right now they don't have showers so I was like just texting all of the artists that I like saying what how much would you do um how much would you do a [ __ ] feature for right now how much would you do a feature for reverse for enjoy cover or whatever and then after that I woke up to the next morning how to text from trippy kid you quoted inbox your favorite rapper and they might get back to you all right yeah yeah so yeah when I say four albums I don't mean that they're bad it's not the albums are bad albums are great but an artist that is in the same place as me should not be releasing an album because think of it like this you could put the exact same amount of work into a single maybe not like making it like making a whole album next about a year another man but if you put the exact same amount of work promotional ways into a single you're gonna get way more of a benefit off of it yeah if you drop consistently say you have a 20 track album there you drop it all once you have just as much of uh [ __ ] unless you're a big artist you have just as much of um what's the word for it a benefit I was just dropping a single because people people don't care about you yeah I know it sounds [ __ ] to say well people don't give a [ __ ] about me people don't give a [ __ ] about most lawyers rappers and they're not going to listen to your whole album so I am making an album what I'm going to do is I'm gonna if I see my rules said in an interview before he said instead of releasing albums or released a bunch of albums and I was making full car money so I started releasing a track a week yeah is that releasing the song every week and that's what made him grow so what I'm gonna do with me is I'll drop the album before the album I'll drop the three standout songs that I think I'll promote with the best and then after the album say it's the 10 track album for seven weeks after that music video music video music video music video music video yeah every single song I have a music video we drop all of them we get the same consistency from just dropping singles but we've just dropped out one thing you've spoken about I think this will be interesting because we were talking about this before we were rolling is uh press releases and I asked you if you thought a press release was worth the money and what's so important yeah I was surprised to hear that but please elaborate man it's say for instance right you'll have 1500 followers on Instagram that's what I got very low numbers right but the people who are looking at your story like it's not even just about having an article there that's talking about you it's about whoever's looking at your story is going to sit there and be like oh [ __ ] hot press Magazine's talking about I need to check out the song So then instead of 200 people from those 1500 people are checking up the song you have a thousand people look like yourself yeah rather than just a small amount of people because they see the hype that you know outside the outside is giving it because people don't care when your friends are giving you hope and your friends don't even care when your friends are giving you hate they care when outside perspectives are giving you like yeah so if you have a bunch of [ __ ] magazines a bunch of like a press release will get you maybe five six seven eight that was written up yeah you know what I mean especially as well that's important for people to be able to look you up on Google and your name instantly which I don't have a runoff bro I did for a whatever that was because we had the press releases you know you look up runoff broke and you find a [ __ ] US presidential election yes yes when none of the candidates get more than 50 the two candidates with the most votes compete again in a runoff election it's really important for people to see that people from the outside don't have to build your own music if this magazine is sitting there saying you should listen to this guy you're going to listen to this guy it's interesting right we've been talking we were talking about what you did with Citizen Soldier that kind of led up to your EP lasted the good times now we're talking about your more recent tracks like dandelion perfectionist 16. and it would seem that it was just a consistent true line you know from that to that what we haven't spoken about is there was a gap in time where there just wasn't new content coming out got that fire in my belly yeah I swear it move me and I'm kind of in two minds about this on the one hand I think this could be a chance for you to talk about it and I think that you know this could be a space for you to like tell people you know [ __ ] let people get to know you better on the other hand I don't want to waste any good material that could be used for an album or for a single or for future content yeah to capture it in words you kind of capture it in words as well as you capture it in a song but uh yeah man it was just major depression and anxiety and drug addiction man some dude over in Cologne had a studio and uh yeah he was told like two or three weeks beforehand that we were gonna shoot there yeah and then uh [ __ ] you know [ __ ] dropped out last minute I'm gonna see you one day you [ __ ] [ __ ] for that listen you need to bet we need to give you a signings or something before you come in here right I got addicted to the Xanax [ __ ] I was depressed out what I had [ __ ] covet hit we were on an upward spoil things were going really well and then I don't know where gone it was all gone we had Irish music week and that was kind of the last hurray of that kind of period and yeah we we did get a whole lot of you know I I suppose you call them opportunities but those opportunities came and gone and yeah yeah then it came to the point where we didn't have the money for press release [ __ ] we didn't have the money to be pushing the tracks properly the music industry was basically at a standstill the team started falling apart my manager old manager went the separate way 97 Hertz went to a separate way there was no beats being made there was no way to record it was just dead so it was basically just sitting in the room taking a lot of drugs and feeling bad for myself the people you work with you'd gone you'd moved away from each other and it's almost a double-sided coin of like getting involved with something creative is that like on the one hand you get to meet like-minded people um and you get to just have a bunch of fun and the thing is it's like you can meet up with your mates and you can like go to the pub or you can play a couple games and you have fun but if you meet up with your friends you can actually make something so it's like I'm spending time with somebody whose company I enjoy but actually got something at the end of it so that's a wonderful part of like getting something you love to do with people you enjoy doing it with the downside is you have to have people to do it with in the always worlds of Frank Sinatra it's not about how good you're doing so how long you're doing good and that's so full control man and especially it's not about how long people it's not about how like-minded you are with other people it's about how like you're like-minded yeah to get me because people don't stick around and it's not their fault people have lawyers that they need to tent it you know what I mean people can't constantly be chasing the same thing and if it's not working out not everybody wants it as badly and not everybody some people want to move on to other things do different businesses work on different things that will make their money you know what I mean at the end of the game it's sad to say with this game it's a whole lot of financial loss before you actually start seeing some [ __ ] red ribbons um when you're around making music in this scene as long as you have you make a lot of um enemies and then you make a lot of friends and sometimes the sort of friends you make are the kind of friends that make you prefer your enemies the beef that I know I don't care about Pat no more the kids don't care about Pat no more even though I didn't necessarily agree with you I thought your argument against Pat Flynn was very well thought out and you know I could see the place it came from like you know I mean I don't like the way he raps don't like his music guitar [ __ ] uh inspires all the kids to you know go for this really really simple style of hip-hop that's [ __ ] brainless and you know I mean they're not trying to do anything artistic with themselves instead of saying be a bad boy I didn't work one time and if you went over a boom by Pete and done something with his music that maybe be able to spread a bit more of a thing yeah that's why I don't like him boss one thing I did think and it's just is at the time and he was only overtaken recently Pat Flynn was the most viewed rapper in the country oh I didn't know one he didn't know well you didn't know that's interesting because the thing was if he'd been diss track about you that could have helped you uh get exposure so but the thing is if you didn't know that wasn't a factor in your decision at all it was his the size of his following he's just talking [ __ ] man to be honestly so you didn't even take it that seriously like that not Imperials I was pretty at the time I was very [ __ ] really hip-hop real music I'm [ __ ] you know I mean that's not what I considered him to be taken but then another man a few months later then I looked him up and it was like a song that was kind of about you know the commenting rappers talk about you know a young man he's addicted to drugs whatever and like you know I still appreciated the message from her you know what I'm saying will this be no justice Pap Flynn the Ed Sheeran's one I think it could be yeah I think so but yeah is it [ __ ] at the time bro honestly I was just kind of giving up yeah I think I was just going to give it up but I was taking it quite seriously at the time you know yeah yeah I had so many blade in 12 years man it's so funny you said that you said that because you said in the universe like all the teenagers problems that I only ever went to one session in the field in Athen right and there was still a bunch of [ __ ] teenagers it was the remix from futurism it was the same channel they had that and they had the Whopper hash remix I was wrong to say the kids don't care about Pat no more they really do don't they yeah they they did they did and I have to say once actually I I do I think I know all the lyrics to [ __ ] get on your knees all right bro I understand I understand one thing that's started the new songs is they're going out on a channel is it seven seven hip hop [Music] flip I dropping that ass on my dick hey it's doing another trip it's time for you to go and get [ __ ] seven hip hop I'm not gonna be consistently going out on that that was just for a few songs but um yeah I got onto a guy because it was um little ugly little ugly baby XXX yeah that was his name and the fella makes some really strange [ __ ] music with like hand tired levels and [ __ ] it's really strange to talk but it's but it's actually dope though as well like you know what I mean like he's getting there he's like I'm gonna [ __ ] kill your [ __ ] oh yeah so it's pretty dope [ __ ] yeah they're [ __ ] I was talking to him and he was like look man I believe in you whatever I have a contact for this Channel and uh you get your stuff up on there and perfectionist went up and you know that's nearly at the same with the viewers as [ __ ] acting I think it's overworked enough uh it's perfectionist is on 67 acting up was on like 76 I think you know modern lady or [ __ ] up yeah you actually do for that yeah it's a stoneware it's done very well okay [Music] funny thing was we uploaded on that channel and obviously the owner of the channel wanted to make a good impression I think obviously uh you're around a little or me [ __ ] baby must have said something for me but uh he he threw the song Under This playlist it was a two-pack playlist that was on his channel because this channel got big from uploading old Tupac songs yeah so it has all that must have been a long time ago was it yeah yeah yeah so like all these like he heal blowers like all these old Tupac songs and he makes these like music videos out of little Snippets of like old music videos from Tupac so he uploads all these songs I didn't have music videos people get to watch it whatever he took me straight after I um I forget what song it was right but he took me after a teal pack song anyway I was right in the middle of the Hill back playlist and all these people on the video I was getting tons of comments I mean like hundreds of people being like this [ __ ] up my two pack Vibes man [ __ ] this guy [ __ ] this song yeah they're all gone crazy they lost their [ __ ] money so that that was fun are you that guy when the song comes out you're in the comment section you're looking at the views our people watching our people like before you are yes I am I am at the time but then once the song has gone and passed I'm concentrating on the next one the odd time I'll flick up YouTube and I'll start looking at the comments of old [ __ ] because like you need it you wanna see what people are saying if people have come back to it yeah but um yeah for the first week man like I remember that day anyways it went if Jesus Christ man the girl of the views was crazy like and they were all organic as well from this playlist I got like it got like 10 000 views on the first day man which was [ __ ] wild and um yeah just I was watching all these comments coming through all these views coming true refreshing to pay attention was jumping on it was [ __ ] sick songs for me are like kind of a means to an end in a way I love making them don't get me wrong my favorite part of making them is actually the voye in the studio but the most favorite part of it is performing that song oh yeah I make songs to perform I don't make songs for any other reason which is which was obviously over covered because I was making a bunch of lit our songs for my sitting room my favorite part of making a song is getting on stage and Performing for that first time and seeing people got loyal to it things I'm looking off again starting to get some showers which is [ __ ] unbelievable but I was speaking to uh a rapper and he was saying that he didn't put it in these words but this was the message I took from what he was saying he was saying how he didn't consider himself like an Irish rapper as in somebody who's with the other guys they're making music you know from their area they're showing off this and that he just considered himself a rapper making music who happened to be in Ireland because he lived there yeah you would fall into that mentality you'd think the exact same yeah [ __ ] at the end of the day the scene didn't accept me from the start so I didn't expect me to sit there and say I'm an Irish rapper yeah people who are Irish hip-hop don't accept you yeah and at the end of the day that's what it is I always wanted to stick and Berlin I'm become big out there first because I've seen someone like Reggie snow yeah he became big outside of the country and then that migrated back on so that was what I wanted to do and that's why up most artists in the same situation want to do are there any old songs you have which you know they've come out they've you know they've been done are there any ones where you actually look back at them and you think you know what I wouldn't mind doing a music video and maybe a little remaster as well wish you a new man I wish to me baby what's the deal I wish I knew girl I do want to do another video to that like I think that it messed up on the opportunity of you know what doing a music video brings because it's a good [ __ ] song it's something that would be fair for radio and something that a lot of people like yeah like [ __ ] when I was making songs at that time it was it was a bit weird because I was dropping all this [ __ ] that I was really confident then and all you know I mean but you have to realize that like not a lot of people love on the ground yeah you know what I mean so a drop away she knew and then I'll wear all these people that would have never listened to my music like oh [ __ ] I actually do oh my God [Music] I hate you I love to embrace you I love that I hate what I say when i gaze at you graceful and argue again that you think that I hate you I don't know how many views that actually is on on Spotify but all that is completely organic there was no full compressed release well there was a very very light press release though I spent about 100 quid on I Didn't Do [ __ ] off it was literally just air-to-air milk to milk to people talking about it and it don't really [ __ ] well what about extended Mandarin in [Music] [Music] the name shorty Wilson [Music] it is a good song that was what everyone used to say to me back when I was in your response [ __ ] then I'll be sitting there watching mandarinet because that was what citizen cells use that in like the press release just to be like this is who Jordan Wilson is yeah where was that filmed that was on there Venice Beach in L.A expected to be gone [Music] [Music] at the time and I was mad about them I was watching them every [ __ ] day love them and then they put up this video they were like here you can you can [ __ ] uh essentially apply do a freestyle over a beat and we'll say look if we think he's good enough to come over and do it then you can do it and it was a big money maker for them because he had to spend money on the ticket now and you have to spend all this [ __ ] my [ __ ] cash for that I went over traveling so I was working with at the time said here I have this lad who's living over there his name's Chris and uh he's doing videos and stuff so if you want a video I don't know of them let's go eat and the rest was history yeah rest was history brilliant brilliant I mean I suppose it's a cool little thing to have in the lcv you know for the Montage that's like here I am in [ __ ] I've played a show in America that's amazing how many people are in the audience there was four talking Lots there was uh how many however many people went to the event because essentially what they doing was they had the team backpack servers they had this gigantic camera on this huge ass gimbal that was like attached to the roof and there was this huge like I kind of it was like a big huge conference room yeah and there was about maybe two or three thousand people there yeah and uh everyone would go up and they'd go up to the mic and they spit their birth and it was sick man and I mean you'd be rapping your voice and you say a bar that kind of

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