Ubuntu Will Replace GNU Core Utilities With Rust │Reaction video - how entitled are Linux users
greetings hellos and whatnot people recommend videos I should react to but apparently um the collective minds of the L Community have have been lost because ubun will replac the new cor utilities with Rost and I'm like don't Linux people love rust like there's a massive debate right now about rust in the Linux current and and Linux users have been getting their thing hard for that reasoning and for the happening but when ubun does I I don't know we have to watch the videos from int Outlaw before that comment like subscribe join my Discord you can go in there and you can uh request a good old um video that I that I can react to If you want to earlier this week Ubuntu announced plans to integrate rust based implementations of essential system utilities starting with the upcoming Ubuntu 2510 release the plan is to use programs from uud which has got to be the biggest rewrite in Russ project ever in terms of how prolific it could become if experiments like this one that Ubuntu will be conducting are successful the corals like LS and CP are used on every Unix like operating system out there so so again the core utils get it the core functions of the not function but the core methods you can call or functions to doing system uh stuff we try to keep it it's simple people servers firewalls embedded devices Mac Linux Android and every smart whatever oh I think Max purch T new St because of the TPL license it was not compatible with the way that um Apple do business that's why we using the zs8 terminal I'm almost sure that they purg any new stuff from their system back a few years ago but I could be mistaken anyone know that dle di it down below is using these programs under the hood so replacing these essential tools that the world has depended on for decades with rust rewrites is both interesting and really terrifying so the goals that usually drive a rust to rewrite or just choosing to write something in Rust to begin with versus another language is for it to be blazingly fast and memory safe now to gnu's credit their implementation of the coreutils actually has a really amazing track record with security and hasn't had that many major vulnerabilities discovered in it over the last 20 years so again key Point here is they are not massive Solutions okay like what they are doing yes they are talking lowlevel stuff but they are not super complicated like it's not like I I would venture and and say that your office SED like Lio your office is probably more advanced than DF is or LS if or because these cors you think bit about them a little bit again I am super oversimplifying here but they are small little programs that are packed together into a big package but the the thing you have to keep it a mind of this is what I'm telling anyone is that just because it has not happened don't mean it can happen and also don't mean that you should not be vigilant against it so I'm talking about that he says that they haven't found any major bocks or security problems stuff like that that don't mean that you should assume that it's never assume anything is safe or secure that's the biggest mistake you can do if you think you're the most secure and safe person on Earth and you're running around naked on an island you take a [ __ ] and a snake bite you in your ass and you how safe are you buddy why did that snake bite you in the ass because you thought you were the most secure and safe person on Earth you didn't not think about that oh [ __ ] there's also other creatures you know on the this little place than just me so maybe I should not running around naked and Swinging my dig in the air and taking a poop just wherever the [ __ ] I want because something could stab me but there have been memory bugs in Coral like split as recently as last year and if it had been written in Rust there wouldn't have been a heap based buffer overflow bug in it and sure enough if we read the disclosure on ubuntu.com that goes into the reasoning the enhanced resilience in safety that is more easily achieved with rust ports are what's most attractive about it now so okay rust is a good l i don't mind rust I I don't like the rust commity but rust is a good language for stuff like this people should be like what are people saying about Linux move to Linux it's secure it's stable H is actually making Stripes to make it even more stable and it's the same with like the TPM with Windows everyone's bitching and moaning about how insecure Windows is and then they they Implement CPM for security reasons and they like oh now I can't use my old unsecure computer but didn't you just talk about that you want Windows to be more secure security is an inconvenience people security is all about if it's inconvenient for you it's inconvenient for other people to get into and stuff like that get what I'm coming at here now while the article didn't list performance as the primary driver for rustifer formance and also reliability by saying if foundational software fails so does all the other layers built on top if foundational packages have performance bottlenecks that becomes a floor on the performance achievable by the layers above they are making a super good argument I I have to to say it you can hate a l canonical or whatever they are making a super good argument the only people I can see going against this argument the people that just want to be upset for being upset if these core utilities can get faster then everything else can get faster and the speed is one of the primary focuses of the uy utils project now in a lot of cases the core utilities probably won't get much faster because of fighting them in Rust because one of the big speed advantages that you actually get over C or C++ is that in Rust multi-threading is typically much easier to implement especially in a safe manner yeah that's also what I'm got from it so I am starting to [ __ ] around a lot with the threading in SC and it's good also [ __ ] around with threading in uh python which is it's there it's okay but it's simple but BST has a super good compelling argument when it comes to like he said multithreading and security and stability but a lot of the tools in the core utilities don't actually benefit from being multi-threaded or parallelized in any way for example MV CP and RM are all file system tools and since disio is fundamentally serialized there's not much point in them being parallelized but there are huge opportunities for the few core utils that can be run in parallel and that's why when the lead developer of uod did a talk at fem this year he did a live Benchmark of the uu's implementation of the sort command against the ganu implementation because sort is one of those programs that actually benefits from more threads and yeah so again if you have a piece of software and you want to make it either more stable more secure or faster there are part of that software that are not going to benefit more from you doing it but there are other parts that will this is just well there are some software where if you rewrite it from let's say python to some other [ __ ] programming language and depending on if that if it's only have one task to do that whole software could probably super fast you have a collection of tools that is in the state they are now they have that that's a they reached their potential limit of of speed if you're talking speed then you can rewrite them and let's say 5 10 20% will get a speed BMS the rest will be where they are so let's say you you're going from a car that can run 30 m per hour to get some a car that in certain instan now can run 45 mil per hour why would you not do that if you have the time if if the if the investment in time and development makes sense why would you not do it why would you not want that extra speed performance in in in in the workloads where that speed Improvement actually matter and the yuud's implementation was six times faster than gnu's so you can imagine that that that's um impressive the gains that something as basic as faster sorting is going to bring to basically every other program that's running on higher levels on the operating system now Ubuntu isn't just going to all of a sudden pull the familiar core utilities from under their users feet of course that would make no [ __ ] sense and almost and almost nobody does instead they release this oxidizer tool which lets users and developers seamlessly rustifer ify their core utilities on their Ubuntu system so that they can get used to how that's going to work before rust actually becomes the default and you can download this right now to your Ubuntu system from GitHub or you can install it with car go but you should still be careful with running this because it could break your system I mean it's making a very fundamental change to true yeah you need to any again I keep saying this anytime you go in and [ __ ] with the back end of anything you need to be careful and you need to know what you're doing in my almost 30 years with Linux and 30 years with Windows more than probably 30 years with Windows I started [ __ ] around with Windows when I was like 10 years old and helping people you know what the the main reason for them coming to me was they [ __ ] up in places they should not be in like if you go on to for bet it if you don't have a life and and you see about all the problems people have most of those problem not because it's not because you know L [ __ ] up randomly it will happen but it's not the the vast majority of cases people think they know what they're doing they they watch a video they go in and they [ __ ] around in a confict or or or in places they should not be in and copy pasting command or moving files around because this YouTuber did it and therefore he must be or she must be an expert and therefore now I'm an expert because I watched like two seconds of it and then everything breaks and they can't [ __ ] read they can't fix it again and then they go and yell and scream and fors for help and again if it's for learning purposes that's how you learn but if don't do this on production machines on your main machine how things are working so make sure that you have a backup but by default if you run this with the basic enable command it's going to replace coril and Pudu enabling all experiments is going to replace oh replacing sudo will be good because sudo have had a lot of security box and a lot of [ __ ] uh may be box and whatnot coril sudu find utils and diffutils and make them the default on your Linux system so far I haven't broken my Ubuntu VM with oxidizer but again be careful if you have important data on your system now of course the Linux kernel itself has been progressively integrating rust into it with initial support merged in version 6.1 and ongoing developments to include rust written drivers lus traval has also shown support for rust especially by his usual metrics and so there's a lot of support for this language in the Linux world and the biggest upsets here I think is really to ganu because if Ubuntu succeeds with uud and other distributions start to follow suit then G new Linux won't really be a thing anymore also who gives a [ __ ] about t tnu Linux okay the tnu part of Linux is an important part of some distribution like I said it gets the core utilities but it's such a small part of the U OS of the combined OS the kernel is more important like we see that right now are they're changing the call youtil they're not changing the kernel the kernel is more important than tnu and and and it calling in tnu Linux is just again one of those mindboggling self-righteous egotistical [ __ ] that rich stallman wants to do for one I actually like not using tnu tools I don't like the free software Foundation they are a politically driven company that cares more about Marxism poli6 than they do software I have a video see if remember to link it down below that's called Li to versus the free s foundation in there there is an interview where Richard storman word for word say that he rather have you run the most insec or not the most but run insecure unstable software if it's tnu license versus running or any other licenses that's more secure and more St right out of his mouth and the reason for that is political he think he can change the political landscape of the world with software can't I I don't know where in the world that taxes and inequality uh bigotry if you want to go that route RAC system has been solved with software or software license and it would really be a shame if gnu got dropped from Linux before they're even able to finish their own kernel because without they en they've been working on that k for so [ __ ] long they never going to just they don't have a good mission statement is best way I can say it and they are focusing efforts in the wrong places they should just shut their [ __ ] mouth about politics and start working but they don't want to do that because it actually takes effort without a colel you can't really call yourself an operating system and while most people besides G developers are probably welcoming this rustifer Utilities in Linux they there are some people that absolutely hate it's always some people this change and it's not just people that prefer C and C++ who hate the syntax of rush so much that reading it makes their eyes bleed and he it's actually not that bad it's it's just like um it's just like learning on language as small the B if that makes sense if you know what I'm talking about you get it you just have to to you have to I call it magical spells you have to say a lot of magical words to get something done so again if if you do python you do print brackets B Marks whatever you want to say in C you do console. white line I think it is brackets rotation marks what you want to say and um uh the what is it called sem coding or pet or whatever the [ __ ] or just like doing C I can't remember what the [ __ ] it's called so the concept white line and the print is the magic word that you you think like white yours print you know it's just like it's the magic words that you're telling that you have to say to get it to do stuff and in typical the more magic words that you have to say in front of what you want to do the more control you have over that thing hearing rust evangelism sounds like nails on a chalkboard to them these people are always going to be around whenever you mention rust but I think the real big concern conern here with uu is its software license so this rust implementation of that's the thing I was talking about the corod dool has an MIT license while the gnu one of course has a GPL license who gives a flying [ __ ] here's here's another thing I will say unless you are actively part of the those two the core utils development or the U utils the Rost util development you have no right to tell other people what license they should use for the work they are doing I'll say it again unless you are directly involved in this work it's not your place to tell them how to do their [ __ ] work you want something for free just shut your [ __ ] mouth and get what they give you you can bit them own about instability security risk not working box and stuff like that but don't tell them how to do their work if you want to tell them how to do their work become part of the work or pay for it because that's one of the benefits we get from paying for [ __ ] you have more rights over what we getting you get more consumer protection you get consumer rights when you are paying for [ __ ] Li and by the way I might as well mention that g implementation of Cory udil isn't the only one in existence okay BSD has their own buy box has another Apple has another Unix had another but can new's GPL license on their code is where the real big deal is here especially for low-level programs like this so the general public license or GPL is copy left so you can think of it as doing the inverse of what a copy right does which restricts the ownership and control over some intellectual property to an individual party GPL makes things free as in freedom forever so if you took ganu and you built upon it you'd have to open source your improvement ments if you wanted to distribute them you and I hope he says that but BSD MIT license is allowed or the TPL it says it they they acknowledge it as being uh an open source or or allowed or recognized license could technically use GPL code and make proprietary modifications and then just use it on your own system but if you want to distribute it has to be open and this prevents proprietary software in the form of binaries or encrypted or heavily ausc code from being added to however however we have to remember one thing here the freedom that they are talking about here again in sense of Freedom not zero price it means the freedom to modify redistribute and look at the code all of those things are things that nobody benefits from than other than developers that's it you as a consumer will not benefit from it you will not get a better or or a lesser of Linux if everything was proprietary the only differ here is that some harist like me or you could not look at the code and learn from it would not look at the code modified and build our own version of it so that would mean that if let's just say [ __ ] was totally proprietary and people didn't like [ __ ] they couldn't just easily walk in and make a new version of [ __ ] but who is who are the people doing that stuff who are the people that are oh I don't like this softare they going in a direction I don't like who is taking that and foring it not the end User it's developers the thing with the TPL if you think about it it's not a consumer friendly well it just happens to be consumer but it's not meant to be a consumer friendly license it's meant to be a developer friendly license however that development friendly approach happens to then also benefit the consumer because I could make [ __ ] or make a version of [ __ ] that's oneon-one compatible with [ __ ] finary compatible and I could say you have to pay for it and you would say to me stupid idiot why would I do that but then get game for free but what GPL license software do they then tend to charge you for services expertise stuff like that basically they the software in of itself they give that to you for free and then they are are billing you for the associated products the associated services that are associated with that free product so they're giving you basically the first one is free and you pay for the rest kind of thing like yeah you can use it for free but if you want if you want people that really really understand the software to help you out pay for it if you want to have guaranteed up time stability security patches so and so pay for that's how most server os are run and the main reason for that is kind of like a byproduct of the source code be open is that why should the consumer pay for something they can get for free and companies know that they know that they can't just say oh Linux you have to pay x amount of money for Linux they have tried that in the past and never worked because if it's ubun base you just take implement the same [ __ ] changes they did and now we have that dist the software license has nothing to do with stability efficiency or any of that [ __ ] sort if Linux became proprietary tomorrow don't mean that it would end up being less secure or less slow or less fast or less customizable just can't see the source code and who gives a [ __ ] about the source code other than other developers so therefore the license is a no [ __ ] concern unless you are a developer that's where it makes sense a GPL code base but an MIT license does not prevent this it's perfectly legal to take MIT license code which would be open source and then make fantastic improvements to it or integrate it into into a small part as a much larger code base and none of the changes or additions that you made in these cases would have to be open source yeah that's ultimate Freedom the TPL in my humble opinion is not about freedom in any way sa form because it dictate what you can do the MIT license basically is not a license I think the license something like you just have to credit the author and that's it you can do whatever the [ __ ] you want there's no guarantee you have to credit the author you can do whatever you want with that with that software whatever the [ __ ] you want it's not dictating anything the TPL however has certain rules you have to follow just like a Appice software certain things you have to do just like a Appice software but they are hiding it in the form of well openness and freedom and it kind of makes sense if that's what you want if your Viewpoint is that everyone should be able to look at all the source code in the world well then you have to for say we want to do that but it's still a dictation you're still dictating other people what to do you're just hiding it with the form of oh we know what's best for the collective development and that is if all code is open almost every dictator on Earth think they're doing what's best for the people they think that they know what's best for the people they think that if they are massacring hundreds of millions of people that's for the betterness of the the country of of the of the of the organization or or or or or the place they live in as a whole so someone has to sacrifice sacrificed in their eyes even if they don't agree and stuff like that you get what I'm coming at here so what the TPL want you to sacrifice is Trade Secrets a lot of Co a lot nowadays a lot of trade sequence a lot of uh businesses would not exist if the code was open for everyone to see because their whole business is the code you can look at um stock trading uh applications that use elaborate algorithm mathematic formulas to predict stock outcomes and stuff like that that's their whole business let's look at um guiding systems for for military weapons I don't want the [ __ ] Al-Qaeda to be able to hack the [ __ ] nuclear missile or get the source code from it and then have as efficient uh missiles as we have in the West I don't want them [ __ ] having that or Isis or I can't I don't even know if I can say those there are you know situations where businesses that are super important for the society and employs thousands of people could not exist if they were all GPL so having an MIT license basic said it it is get it as it is there's no wary and you have to credit the author that means that you that spent potentially thousand thousands of [ __ ] dollars hundreds of development hours into fix something add something whatever it is you're doing have the freedom the power to do whatever you want with that work you don't have to give that massive amount of work those massive amount of money basically that you spend on it for free to someone that have not done it Freedom means that you have the freedom to do something I don't agree that's Freedom you should be able to say something I don't agree or do something I don't agree because if not then we living a dictatorship then then people that think like me We dictating how you job how you should speak what you should do etc etc etc at best it's censorship at worst it's dictatorship and again the TPL at worst is a dictating license at best it it's a censorship license none of those things are good so just think about that a little bit even if you wanted to distribute them and it could be the case that your changes are so popular that they basically end up replacing the original open- Source program in popularity that's what you if you get [ __ ] away from free that's what you get dude that's part of it you you can't [ __ ] like be entitled when you do stuff like that that you just have to accept that that's the reality of it you just have to accept it again that's ultimate Freedom that's the this is marit It's Merit based [ __ ] this is how it should be if I'm doing something and someone is doing it better than me should I get pissed over you hiring them instead of me but I was the first one doing it this is like that mindset is like entitlement times 1,000 then become better if someone is doing it better than than this project you become better that's how you win you want to know how L become the most popular desktop in the world become better out come become better because if Linux really was the best operating system on Earth everyone would be it's so [ __ ] simple everyone is debating about what is the best thing okay what is the most used thing this thing the best thing why you saying that it's the best thing for most people because most people are using it is it the most optimized is the fastest is most secure no but if most people are using it it's the best thing for most people it's it's the thing that makes sense for the most people AKA it's the best thing gaming the most powerful console on the market has almost never been the most popular console why because they didn't have the game for or the S fa whatever you call it that people want so for a lot of people it was not the best conso it was the most powerful but not the best console because didn't give them what they want so Linux no Linux is not the best OS because then everyone will be used even even how Microsoft could be fighting so much that their [ __ ] balls dropped and they became teenagers again they could not stop Linux if they if the if the consumers want Linux they get Linux if the vast majority of the market found L to be the best OS they will get learning and since proprietary software is a kind of evil in itself no it's not I like this video up till now up till now this video was a good video that mean that if Linux become proprietary tomorrow it's just evil L Towell is Epstein D Towell is [ __ ] this dude now no licenses is not evil it's how they are being used and who determine or dictate how they being used the people that would be like saying all games are evil because we have EA we have player we have activis well activis play you get what I'm coming at here that go Microsoft gaming Studios that go around and do super anti consum [ __ ] things so that means that all games must be evil then because some games do evil some games are anti-c consum can you see how low IQ this thinking is you are climing a product for the ACs of its of its uh Masters the propers that is the humans there are plenty of proprietary software you can get for free that takes no Telemetry that takes no data that are wholesome [ __ ] developers that will engage with the community and will you know allow you to help them out and stuff like that there are plenty of those out there because the end users don't have any control over it you could argue that MIT and similar licenses allow for good open-source software to be more easily turned into something that you have no control over open- Source software as an end user either because you need to understand the [ __ ] software even if you're a developer if you're a developer right now you can have 100 Years of development experience do you have more control over the lenux Kel because you are Developer and you can read the source code oh because you probably don't know what the [ __ ] is going probably take your month to read through all the source code in L to understand what's going on and understand it to a degree where you can actually fix and do something about you have no control over any software if you don't have the knowledge and and let's be honest most people don't have the knowledge that I you the end use the consumers don't have that knowledge most of them don't so for them the license is mute it's nullable it's a nullable variable it don't mean anything it's a it's it's it's in The Ether it's in the void they don't give a [ __ ] but they do give a [ __ ] about how good is it do do what we needed to do is the what is the price is it free is not free that's what they give a [ __ ] about I really [ __ ] like hate the mindset of mental Outlaw because he does have a lot of good like he has a good head on his shoulders but then he goes into this like kind of like religious speech where oh a license is bad it's evil no it's not evil this is something that Richard stor say because he don't want that philosophy on Earth he want total control over this all this is something people say to the opposite side just because it's on the opposite side a license cannot be it can be restrictive of course like it restrict your access to the code but it's not evil that's not being evil it's not going around and [ __ ] castrating cats or something like that you know it's not taking your first born open source is not evil either you know no license is evil or good they have benefits and negatives but that's not being evil that's just like God damn it that is going to abuse end users it's not Jesus Christ man how how okay what is a proprietary software that I'm using steam steam is a propri soft why the [ __ ] are you guys gaming on Linux with steam what the [ __ ] is wrong with you are you [ __ ] bad [ __ ] crazy you're supporting the [ __ ] Neo are you [ __ ] mental you just because daddy mental Outlaw here said that that SA saice is evil and abusing the end user why the [ __ ] are you using steam then steam is abusing the end user by the way but why the [ __ ] are you using it then that there are plenty hey here's another thing why are you using VLC it takes Telemetry and collects data why are you using any web browser they to some degree Tak Telemetry data is just some take more than others but they all do why are you using them a lot of them are open source there's a lot of free freeware free for personal use proprietary software that do the exact same thing as a lot of Open Source software meaning they don't take Telemetry they don't take personal data they don't do all that [ __ ] [ __ ] the software that is abusing the end user is because the powers at B of that software is telling it to do are we putting cars in jail for trunk driving are we putting cars in jail for running people over are we putting guns in know are they locked up because you know are we are we taking the gun and putting that in jail and letting the human go yeah you g yeah you g just had a bad night it was fighting with his bullet girlfriends and one of that one of the 30 or 10 bu uh girls just got super angry just left the [ __ ] Bell without you doing anything and it it didn't have to hit your [ __ ] wife right in the [ __ ] face I know she's been a [ __ ] to you the last two years but it's your gun forall it's just magically [ __ ] pointed itself at your wife and then it's wife number nine got super [ __ ] angry and just exited the household because it didn't want to be part of the gun's Collective family in so we are going to put your gun on tral we're going to lock it up uh but you're free to go you can just know there's a lot of other guns in the sea you can find another relationship this is basically the argument that they are making with software is evil and it will abuse the end use we are we are claing an un unanimous or or or you climing an object for the actions of the humans what a [ __ ] like if that was true Bill Gates is the best [ __ ] person on Earth Bill Gates did nothing wrong and this has already happened with Minix so this was another Unix like operating system that was developed by Andrew tanon bomb and it actually predates Linux by a few years and many more than a few years but yeah this was initially proprietary software that was conditionally Source available I think maybe you could get the source code if you were in University because initially Minx was created to be a teaching tool and that's why it's it was pried so in the beginning because well universities I think this is uh Amsterdam universities they tend to I don't agree with this but they tend to sometime lock down intellectual properties if they think they can make money off it or sell it and stuff like that American universities do this more than anyone on Earth okay this is a practice that American Institute teaching Institute more than anyone on Earth my opinion is anything that's being done or [ __ ] with in a university should always be open meaning if you are software if if anything software wise coming out from a university and or learning in should always be Source available pick the [ __ ] license you want I don't care because other people learn from that code you cannot have intellectual Properties or patterns and stuff like that if you are a teaching place and again American universities are notorious for doing just look at how many [ __ ] patents and licenses MIT has and Boston Dynam or Boston universities stuff like that it's stupidly crazy but a lot of universities will do this I don't agree with it but anyway in the year 2000 almost 13 years after Minx first came out it was officially open sourced under a BSD license and the reason for this was commercial viability so as you can imagine a lot of companies don't actually want to open source their code or they don't want to open Source whatever changes they made CU they don't want their competitors to get it cuz they yeah why the [ __ ] should I get my [ __ ] competitors an advantage to get me out of business it makes no [ __ ] sense I think it gives him a Competitive Edge and yada yada yeah just disproving it like it don't [ __ ] matter it does it and so they're wary about using anything that is GPL and this pretty much sums up tanon bomb's reasoning too for using the BSD license for yeah yeah why would I give if I'm Microsoft and I'm doing something that I spend millions of dollars on why would I give that to [ __ ] orod if you're talking server side [ __ ] why would I give them something that could put me out of business and thousands of people will lose their money or sorry their jobs thousands of people will lose stock money and stuff like that people be set out on the streets why the [ __ ] would I do that why would I do that that why would I allow someone else to out compete me with my own [ __ ] work it's the most stupidest thing on Earth and then [ __ ] and moan about I don't have a [ __ ] business if I don't want a business and I'm just like I don't give a [ __ ] I'm doing this for the betterment of the community of the world and blah blah blah blah I don't care if if you make a business out of it I just don't have that interest fine that what you want if you want to do that that's fine but if you are if you're running a business and you have have to like it or not but you have to account for shareholders you also have to somewhat account for your [ __ ] employees you know like you kind of want them to still have a job or else you can't do a product kind of have to do things so your competitor don't [ __ ] out compete you why do you think it's so well not say difficult but why do do you think that most Linux companies are not like Microsoft size company think about that for menx but this openness allowed Intel to integrate Minix code into their Intel management engine which is basically a mini operating system that yeah but here's the thing dude if if intel came to the University of Amsterdam and said can we get a favorable license to use that code in in in our inst they will gladly have paid it the Avers do this all the time the avails pay a lot of money on licenses for third party [ __ ] components so they can run their business that's why oh I just Port uh uh Photoshop over to a GPL and run on Linux you know how many licenses that they are paying for to R Photoshop for example they they can be using hundreds of third- party uh licenses that they are paying for to be able to do what Photoshop is doing and they can't open source that because that's not in their hand so if they want to open Source Photoshop they now have to go to their the people that they they they pay licenses to say well we want to open source uh Photoshop so on either we make a a copy of your software or do our own version of what your software do or you go GPL also and all the DPL guys just got a massive boner right now you see how [ __ ] complicated and and inefficient that is ending up being the way he talks is entitlement he is he feels enti to other people's work other people that are spending thousands of hours on doing something he feels entitled to it should be open for the world oh it's not your [ __ ] work if I'm building a birdh house you are not entitled to anything that has to do with I can give it to you for free if I want you're not entitled to it I can set a high price and you say this is too much and you can walk away that's your prod if you whatever the [ __ ] you want a lot of this comes sounds like entitlement because Intel would have been paying for a license and you know what they would have done if would gotten away from the to the consumer and the prices of the CPU may have gone up 1% a lot of people say oh well um Windows computers are so expensive because we Linux on or Windows on them you know how much the noo and D pay for Windows license about $10 we did this research on a live stream I should watch my live stream because we do that kind of research they buy it in bulk and they pay around between 5 to $12 per Liv depending on how many they buy so when Lenovo on their websites is giving you a discount of $200 $150 for not change choosing an operating system it's not the license that you're paying for you're paying for the automation process it takes to install their version of L windows and validate that is installed that's what you're paying for you're not paying for Windows you're paying for the the production line automatically installing Windows and all Linux I think Linux cost like um it depends here's another thing depending on how Pro your computer is a Windows Pro license cost more on a t or X1 Carbon that it does on a eer how can that be how how why is a Windows license more expensive on some some version of Lenovo I can't remember but I see because I just bought a new laptop went through the whole [ __ ] no page there is depending on what what computer you buy the license or what you pay for Windows is more on some than others Windows license the same [ __ ] price and that's because only Nova's website you don't pay for the license you pay for the work they put in to make a cost the windows version installing it and validating it that's why on some computers it cost more than others because they have more exotic software therefore they have to do more special work to make that ISO or whatever the [ __ ] you would call it there may be some more validation things they have to go through to make sure that it works when it comes to in consumer like it is so much easier to just put the hardware together and ship it out and put the hardware together and then install Windows on because they have to boot up Windows to see if it works they can't just be like ah you think it work they have to test it you know it goes through testing so so what you are what what why they are say giving you money savings by not sh charge or or monting an OS is all the work they have to do to to put that on the system and test it it's not the license that cost that much because why the [ __ ] is it different from computer to computer then a Windows license is a Windows license Windows 11 that's the same as if I'm installing it here or on a on a server or or on a laptop or on a [ __ ] Intel machine or AMD machine is the same [ __ ] app for the license it's the work that they had to put into getting that to work that runs on every Intel chip alongside your real OS and because of this it's technically one of the most used operating systems in the world yeah I think AMD is taking over the market sh of CP and if you read Tannon bomb's open letter to Intel he obviously is not super happy about the way that Intel went about this mentioning that they should have at least given him a heads up about his OS becoming the most prolific one ever but again that is not a requirement of a BSD or an MIT license you don't even have to say thanks you see the entitlement coming out of his mouth there but prary sare is evil to the person who originally developed that code so this could lead to more excellent operating systems being poached for diabolical reasons in the future it could yeah it could I don't [ __ ] know but it could Yeah by major corporations but what do you think are the fears about the MIT license overblown is rust in the core utilities this is a big nothing who gives a [ __ ] this is a big who gives a [ __ ] this is something only [ __ ] init lockdown basement rolling never showering nerds give a [ __ ] about not even developers give a [ __ ] about this in the grand schema the only time developers are going to give a [ __ ] about this is if they're working with it the end consumer this is not going to impact the end consumers of Ubuntu one [ __ ] bit one [ __ ] bit it they are not going to feel it probably feel the speed Improvement and security or memory security aspect of it but if you're running Ubuntu today and then in 5 years you running spons with bus call you tells you not notice a [ __ ] [ __ ] you will not give a [ __ ] about it back users who pass in in in the past now they're using set8 all the same command or L there like a few that don't but did that like um ruin the whole Apple [ __ ] company no whe people like I'm not using Apple products anymore because they're not using B there are probably like one or two out there in the [ __ ] forest with a [ __ ] dild or bot plug off their ass but most people don't give a [ __ ] about it and then what he and a lot of people are angry about is that this give the possibility of people putting a lot of effort and work into it and either sell proprietary it and stuff like that basically they feel entitled to other people's work and I always felt that being a bad thing I am not entitled to anything you do if you do some work and you want to give that away for free or you build something and you want to give that away for free that's your decision unless I am paying you for it or unless I am helping you out then I can say like you know what I'm 50% of the work either my 50% has to be know giving away for free or open to the world or why don't we do all of it a lot of Open Source Advocates or free s or Frost Advocate don't give a [ __ ] about development they don't give a [ __ ] about the license what they do give a [ __ ] about is that oh my God I may have to pay for this [ __ ] oh my God I can't just go on to and do sud sudo app install software name anymore that's what they are most concerned about they have a massive entitlement towards the software that they're using and then they're using the excuse of oh it's for the betterment of the world it's for the freedom and openness of the code all of that only matters if you're a developer and if you are Developer that are going to either sip through the code AIT the code or use that code for development again a lot of developers that c is one of the most used development language in the world one of them I know I think python is think python the most used development to language in on Earth right there is a lot of proprietaries libraries you can use and there's a lot of Open Source libraries you can and a lot of them do the same thing some do know in some instances the prary do it better in some instan the open source do it better do you think that most developers that want to develop a software they sit and be like we should use the open source version because it's open source no they figure out which one is doing the best job and they using that's how they're doing unless they license of that library is going to imp on the license they are building the software which most of the case it won't be license software licenses is has never been a consumer issue problem or concern it's a a developer thing the tnu people just for some [ __ ] weird reason have morphed it into being something that they that they have for not force but gas l or or or or whatever you would call it what is what is M Firefox doing right now what is M doing with Firefox they're doing a lot of things that a lot of proprietary companies are do it's open source beep beeps you you were telling me that just because it's open source they can't do bad things what the [ __ ] is Firefox doing right now some ordinary gameer just made a video that I reacted to about this whole thing that basically is a nothing bre because theyve not done anything yet they just put in the the the Wile room that they can't do it that is anti-consumer if they want it's an open source software so you're telling me that open source software can't be evil this is why I I I honestly feel you should not listen to mental Outlaw because he starts out great and then all of these [ __ ] weird ass [ __ ] religious speech like it's like they read all [ __ ] book almost all people that are pro stuff like they say the same [ __ ] over and over there's just it's almost like word for word that they all saying it and that sounds suspicious not like a [ __ ] cult or [ __ ] when it's like the same R being spoken over and over and over and over it's the people we should go after Microsoft will become a better company than any Linux companies if the people that ran that company will hold some people if if I apply to VLC tomorrow if I had that power would it start to take Telemetry or let say OBS that start takey would that start all all night I I I say you can't see the source code anymore everything's repli to softw I will now go and um you know hide in bed and get all all [ __ ] Wanger and then tomorrow all the [ __ ] you data has been collected on some server server somewhere that I have never [ __ ] [ __ ] up or set up anything it just automatically just it's just a Jason file with just all the use IP addresses and how much porn there was the last five days and stuff like that that's just automatically happened because I I made a proprietary this is how it sounds like no it would only happen if I if I was the owner of of OBS did it that's the only reason that will happen if the human does it and yes you can see the source anymore so you can't learn from it but you can also not make a competing product I would love to know how how many how much source code do mental Outlaw look at in a week how much does he fix a source code how much does he fix set that fix the sof but how much how how often does he do anything with the software he in in a coding Manner and give it back how often does he do how often do you do that because those are the are the places where the freedom and openness of the source code actually [ __ ] matters so if you're not doing any of that the software license is more less meanless to you besides you may have to now start actually paying for the [ __ ] that you which is another thing what's free for you someone else is paid for so when you're using something that's free either you are the product which a lot of people love to say oh we are not the product on Linux that's cool then you were using something I have paid for you to use it because I've donated to some open source project over the years I've been using so basically people like me or companies like Microsoft Oracle IBM seens Volvo they are the reason why you can use it you're using because they are paying for the infrastructure they're donating so they can have an infrastructure one of the biggest uh Financial beneficiary to OBS is xplit that's a proprietary company docket SEC is one of the biggest donators or supporter on device OBS without them you could probably not have OBS today or it would be a lesser product today so all of these proprietary companies you hate and all that [ __ ] [ __ ] they are paying for you to get your entitled [ __ ] software that you feel entitled to and you are yelling and screaming and berading them but without them you would probably not have the software you have today because you are not going to pay $100 $50 for a license to run OB you are probably not going to pay 30 5050 $60 for a distrib of Linux but that's where we go to if you want to have total ownership and total control over the software you use you either become part of the development team or you have to pay for it because they need to they need to pay the developers they need to pay for the infrastructure need to pay for them marketing blah blah blah if you're not going to do it someone else is and then you sit here and you entitled you feel entitled that it has to be free and open so I can just really need do with what I want without you doing any [ __ ] give anything back to the community and letting other people fix your [ __ ] pay for you to use it and then you sit there and be like I don't like the name nope wrong button call I no no no wrong license I going to make a big fuss out of this how [ __ ] entitled do that sound anyway this has been a super long video see you all later bye-bye
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