the most advanced SPYING device ever created? #privacy

the most advanced SPYING device ever created? #privacy

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Apple says the phone will know you well well  there's no doubt about that it's going to know   you very well it's going to know what you're doing  at every moment they're not calling your AI your   personal assistant yet mark my words David it  will be impossible for you to interact with   the AI without your personal data leaving your  device your entire life is on the computer in   a way that's never been collected before never to  me the iPhone has got to be ranked at the top it's   the the most advanced surveillance device ever  made this device can sense everything about you   the phone can figure out your interest in content  based on your eye movements it can see which part   of the screen your eyes are focused on the new  OS constantly listens to you now without even a   trigger other than a voice your voice is a trigger  didn't you have to press a button before (you are   being watched the government has a secret system  a machine that spies on you every hour of every   day). everyone it's David Bombal back with the  amazing Rob Braxman Rob great to have you back   on the channel. Great to be here! Yeah Rob I mean  we this is I think our third interview and what's   been amazing about our previous interviews and  just for everyone who's watching I suggest you   go and do this for yourself but I'm going to give  you some history now we had our we published our   first interview on the 28th of August 2022 so  quite a while ago wow you were predicting phone   sensing the environment and it sounded like a  bit farfetched and it wasn't even a month later   so on the 16th of September 2022 Apple released  crash detection on the iPhone so it's like your   prediction was spot on and then previous another  interview we had is on the 26th of April so this   year you said the biggest threat was client client  side scanning and we were talking about how VPNs   were going to be like null and void because  of client side scanning and month later I see   TechCrunch had an article about Google using AI to  scan phone calls uh while people were talking in   real time and then in June Apple intelligence was  announced and in August we had Microsoft recall so   again you were spot on um so just for everyone  who's watching I suggest you do the same with   any claims that Rob makes but Rob I I'm amazed how  you can do this because a lot of the things and I   say this is really unfortunate a lot of the things  that you predict actually take place. (incredible)   I and I had made so many predictions even  before that on various topics and uh that's   comes with age David I guess when you've been  doing this a very long time. But I want to know   how did you know one like one of the things  you said recently you said that I should not   buy an iPhone 16 previously you mentioned crash  detection I remember specifically when you spoke   about that how I thought this can't be true and  then like literally a month later crash detection   was released by Apple I mean you were saying the  phone could sense the the environment and could   sense if there was violence or something happening  so I'm assuming I mean that's still a worry right   the phone can actually sense what's going on and  like you mentioned crash detection originally and   I mentioned some of the others another thing you  also mentioned was like um find my phone even it's   off so I mean is this why you know you think an  iPhone 16 is so bad. People have actually asked  

me on that you know find my phone went off and  they're saying that I'm making that up and uh   you know I I've made so many videos about this no  I am not making that up because even Apple says   that so just for people haven't seen the videos  find my iPhone means that even when the phone   is off it can still be tracked right you said  it acts like an airtag right? So what happens   is when you turn off the iPhone it turns into an  airtag this was released what the year ago this   feature or two two years ago I can't remember  now but but the feature is if the iPhone is   unpowered it will go into a airtag mode and what  airtag mode means is that it sends out signals   using Bluetooth BLE Bluetooth Low Energy and  then send you can find the phone so the phone is   constantly communicating with other phones using  Bluetooth Low Energy and one of the things that   people don't actually understand is how location  is attached to this because an airtag itself does   not have location so somebody will tell me oh your  airtag according to Apple is encrypted and no one   can see where that particular airtag is located  and actually that is correct because there's no   location in an airtag what happens is in order for  this to work every phone that detects a Bluetooth   airtag device has to encapsulate wrap that airtag  ID and I'm sure it's hashed so you can't tell   which one it is and send it with location to Apple  and then multiple devices then send the location   of the airtag and then they can triangulate it  based on multiple to know exactly where it is so   that's how it has to work and they're saying well  it's encrypted yeah the airtag has to be encrypted   but your location is not meaning you're sending  your location as part of the airtag tracking as it   is and there's actually other things that they're  doing which they don't deny that they're doing   like I told you about Wi-Fi triangulation in the  past where they're sensing Wi-Fi routers around   you so they're always constantly sending location.  This is still a massive problem in today's world   people's passwords are out there many many  sites have leaked passwords leaked credentials   but attackers can also simply guess passwords  because people still use such bad passwords in   today's world I really want to thank Brilliant  for sponsoring this video now this course from   Brilliant teaches you one of those concepts that a  lot of people seem to struggle with and that's to   do with hashing. They explain password hashing and  why you want to use hashed passwords rather than   store the original passwords in a database and  unfortunately today companies still store clear   text passwords or passwords in non-hashed form  in databases and that stuff gets out there what   I really love about the training from Brilliant  is it's very interactive Brilliant is a learning   platform designed to be uniquely effective  their first principles approach helps you   build understanding from the ground up each lesson  is filled with hands-on problem solving that let   you play with concepts a method proven to be six  times more effective than watching video lectures   plus all content of Brilliant is crafted by an  award winning team of teachers researchers and   professionals from MIT, Caltech Juke, Microsoft  Google and others Brilliant helps you build your   critical thinking skills through problem solving  not just memorizing so while you're building real   knowledge on specific topics you're also becoming  a better thinker I probably don't have to say this   but learning a little every day is one of the  most important things that you can do both for   personal as well as professional growth Brilliant  helps you build the real knowledge in only a few   minutes a day with fun lessons that you can do  whenever you have time it's also the opposite   of mindless scrolling I really want to thank  Brilliant for sponsoring this video and supporting   my channel now to try everything that Brilliant  has to offer for free for 30 days you can go to   https://Brilliant.org/davidbombal or you can use  the QR code on screen or use the link in the video  

description you'll also get 20% off an annual  premium subscription. You also mentioned like   the iPhones can communicate with off the internet  is that right? Correct so so Bluetooth Low Energy   is part of the Apple mesh Network that was part  of what they added couple years ago now one of   my Skynet videos that also had a lot of views  Bluetooth Low Energy is a mesh Network that can   actually accept traffic between iPhones without  even any internet involved and the way that it's   made to work and this is a Bluetooth standard it's  not something that Apple invented is that every   device can send a BLE message the other device can  listen to the BLE message and then retransmit to   the next device until that device says and end of  transmission or or we got it and then say you know   no more don't retransmit and the way they're going  to say it don't retransmit is when they are able   to send it to the Internet so let's say you're in  a location that uh doesn't have internet because   there's an outage let's say there's an out I'm in  Los Angeles let's say there's an outage in my part   of the city then is the theoretically possible  for BLE messages to go from from my part of town   all the way to the other part of town where there  is internet and then connect to Apple. And I mean   you've got the phone scanning the images right so  I mean that's client side scanning that's right   they can find that specific images so I mean  that's also a nightmare you've also got all   the legacy sensors like GPS Wi-Fi triangulation  and stuff you've mentioned in previous videos   so the the phone can be discovered so reasons you  wouldn't get an iPhone 16 right is because it can   detect where you are can detect what's going on  around it you've got the eye tracking you've got   vocal shortcuts so it's always listening like  you said so the from a privacy concern just   like highlight why is this a problem like vocal  shortcuts because the phone is always listening   correct right eye tracking so it's always  watching camera is yeah the camera is so it   can see what's I tracking can see what's going  on around it. What's iPhone to iPhone mirroring? 

Well that's when somebody can actually look at  your screen so there's a technology in the phone   already and somebody somebody made a comment on  my video well that's all technology well of course   it's old technology I'm not saying it's new but  it's one of the things that it can sense if the   technology is there to look at your screen and  look at it remotely well obviously that's a fear.   yes I mean you you've got like the phone's always  watching you the phone is always listening to you   it can be connected to remotely and controlled  remotely you've got AI scanning your images or   AI collecting data about you locally supposedly  that's supposed to say stay locally but I mean   that could be sent to centralized server or could  be queried remotely uh you've got GPS Wi-Fi etc   so basically you've got a device in your pocket  that's tracking you 24/7 but not only is it just   tracking where you are it's finding very personal  information about you is that why it's like one of   the worst devices to buy? I mean I can't think of  the moment of any device with this kind of power   yeah so I'm sure Google wants to make this kind of  device but if I'm going to say which one has the   technology for it I don't think any device is more  powerful at this kind of environmental sensing as   an iPhone I mean it's about as sophisticated as  you can get. So basically you've got an agent   running on a phone that can find out information  about you, you've got a device that's sensing   everything around it, so you've basically got a  spying device in your pocket or in your house uh   just looking at you 24/7. (The name is Bond James  Bond) In incredible for me and you know what I've   known this what's going to happen uh since the  first AI model modules were put into Apple 10 I   mean iPhone 10 so I'm person I personally what  uh so so bothered by that I had to store away   my iPhone 10 and uh it's now in a fair day bag  because I need it for testing occasionally and   I don't use any iPhones and no one in my household  uses an iPhone so I'm that concerned about it. And   what about Google devices because in the past and  correct me if you if this is you've changed your   opinion on this but in the past Google was seen to  be the worst but like what's your ranking of like   the worst tech companies is Windows or Microsoft  the worst now or is Apple the worst now is Google   the worst now Amazon are they just as bad as each  other you know what's the worst like maybe you've   got some kind of ranking of you know good and bad  and ugly? Yeah I I actually do but it's it's kind   of a different thing now let me just tell you  Google's always the worst but okay it's not   on device they're not worst on device Google's  the worst because it tracks every click on the   internet but the Google technology is the Google  ID it's the Google ID if your Google ID is known   well obviously anywhere you go on the internet the  Google ID is announced now I don't know why this   is such a difficult concept and I don't know why  people don't understand this part because it's so   simple to me everything you do from your phone  that has a Google ID including iPhones because   of course you're going to do something Google  on your on your iPhone I mean 90% of you have   Gmail and you're going to do something Google on  on that phone even an iPhone and you're going to   send your Google ID out anytime you go on the  internet you're identified by your Google ID   because of this Google already has your personal  data they don't need to infect your phone they   they really got you so yeah for this reason  the Google spyware is more about internet   interactions whereas this is the most dangerous  device to me in my mind is the the iPhone   because it's more about sensing things locally and  that's worse than Windows recall Windows recall   is extremely bad but it doesn't have the sensing  tools that an iPhone has and that's why to me the   iPhone has got to be ranked at the top it's the  the most advanced surveillance device ever made   and and by the way I just want to make this clear  people always say oh uh but they're they're not   saying that in their terms of service that they're  going to use it for that purpose well every terms   of service always has except as required by law  you can find that on every every uh terms of   service except as required by law so what is the  required by law well in the case of the US it's   the patron act and every country China has its  own version I'm sure well the Apple servers are   in China so they don't even need that they just  go knock on the door of the Apple data center say   we want to look at data so they can do that ly so  one thing that I want to make clear when when a   company like Apple or Google when it participates  in something called the Google sensor Vault where   all of your locations are are stored in the  Google sensor Vault and they're shared with the   government which they are okay let me come back  to that it is shared with the government for sure   for sure 100% is that these services including  back to the days of prism which Snowden talks   about the prism program I read this in Wikipedia  it said that these services are paid for meaning   the government paid for this they have a profit  Center in sharing data with the government it it   says that on Wikipedia so somebody must have  information that verifies this so the problem   is that Google as an example collects data and  puts it into the Google sensor vault which has   all of your locations whether it be an iPhone  or a a pixel or a Samsung or whatever it is it   puts it into the Google sensor Vault and we  already know because of court cases so many   court cases where the data for location it's  called Geo fencing was using the Google sensor   Vault so this is not something I have to invent  it's factual they're using the Google sens well   it's in court documents so just to give you a  bit of background again I the what my style is   you look at the technology and say what can you do  with this and what I've noticed with with big Tech   is if if I think they can do X they will actually  do it and then the next question is if there's   anything bad you can do with this Tech they will  actually do it and they will speak on the side and   make claim to oh we're not doing anything bad but  uh yeah but historically they've always done that   so when it comes to the AI issue because the AI  issue is kind of broad you know you see terms like   apple intelligence and they're saying oh uh we're  going to give you more photos or Windows recall   the windows recall one the justification for it  is so vague because they can't talk about the   real reason you you want to have Windows recall  so they're saying oh you can use Windows recall   so that you know what you've done on Windows and  like in I've been using Windows since you know   Windows 3.1 uh I've been using DOS too before that  and uh at no point have I ever said that I'd like   to know what I did uh if anything I just want to  restore to what I did you know using backup tools   but I don't know if I ever said what what did I  look at a few months ago why is that necessary   and that's the kind of justification that they're  using because they can't announce to you what the   real purpose is yet and that's going to be uh  semi discussed in my last video uh which is not   specific to iPhones the prior video before that  was specific to iPhones and then uh the new video   I'm releasing is a more general hit on AI which  is precisely what what this is all about so the   basic issue is AI now I don't want to be talking  about AI like you know like a course review and   just give opinions and act like I'm some uh  AI expert without actually you know doing   something so this is what I did David I wrote  programs to duplicate Windows recall and Apple's   media analysis D which is part of Apple  intelligence which I presume will be the   same stuff used by Google Gemini so I duplicated  that I actually made a video which nobody watched   maybe because it was you know Pro programming so  it's programming related but it was very important   to to document that I also documented how AI works  and just to make sure that people understand this   I didn't just document it from some theoretical  basis I actually looked at the source code   because was open source I looked at the source  code examined and and then described exactly   uh how it was going to use that and that's  the transformer module that's a part of the   AI that does the uh the inference of course I  don't know the software that does the learning   that's I don't have access to that but the  inference side I could see what it was doing   and so and which is really the fear here is the  inference inference is when the AI is on your   device for example if you're using an iPhone Apple  intelligence is doing inference uh Windows recall   is not an AI by the way and this is a terminology  I'm going to clarify it as well it's it's going   to be in my it'll be in my video after this uh or  before this uh interview releases so the Windows   recall and apple intelligence are run by an AI you  can consider the AI it's a separate entity it it   runs on your device but the actual actions that we  worry about are done by something called AI agents   so the AI itself is kind of like a typical LLM  you you ask a question of an AI and gives you an   answer right that's what an AI does if you think  about it how can that do anything bad to you it's   just giving you an answer you ask a question it  gives an answer and that is actually true an AI by   itself is not dangerous because all it can do is  you ask a question and gives you an answer where   the danger of that kind of AI is if it gives you  an answer that's biased in which case then you're   not getting accurate information but that's not  in itself the kind of privacy danger I'm talking   about the privacy danger is something called AI  agents and that is what we're talking about here   and that's what Windows recall is Windows recall  is an AI agent uh the media analysisd that runs   on on Apple devices I don't know what they call it  on iPhone but on a Mac it's called media anald you   can look it up you can go see that running process  media analysisd you can try to shut it down and   that's the module that is an agent there are many  agents I'm sure there's a location tracking agent   a sensing agent and all these different agents  now what do this agents do what this agents do   is collect data so in the case of let's talk  Windows recall because that's so specific   and and easily duplicated which I did so  Windows recall works by screenshot so it's   taking screenshots every few seconds so I actually  wrote that program I actually wrote a program to   say let's take screenshots every few seconds so  I I don't want people to you know think I'm just   you know making this up so I wrote a program  that said okay screenshot every few seconds   now of course for efficiency you don't want the  screenshots to take constant photos of the same   stuff so if you're screen the static you you know  you you went off to get some coffee your screen   is still taking screenshots no so what I did was  I made a code that said let's take a screenshot   only if the screen changes and I gave it some  arbitrary number like 20% change if the screen   changes take a screenshot and somebody will say  well that's the that's very inefficient actually   no as it turns out when you do a screenshot  which is only a millisecond really if you do   it and compute if the screen changes before you  do it it's actually not happening all that often   it's it actually doesn't even take that much CPU  power you you're not even going to sense it so if   it detects the change it saves it to a file now  what I did in my program is I said okay take that   file the screenshot you did and send it to the AI  now this is the AI portion of this so the AI agent   is taking your data sends it to the AI the AI then  evaluates a photo and I told it to evaluate what   seeds and then put it then it returned it to the  agent the agent then stores the description of   the screen into a file this is not theoretical  actually I did I did it I built it uh I couldn't   share the source code because people would think  I'm giving out malware I think I would be banned   by YouTube if I did that so I I did not show the  source code but I'm going to tell you the reality   is uh I was lazy I had the AI write the source  code the AI wrote it okay it didn't work I had   to tweak it but you know it did a good chunk  of the work so so I didn't have to uh spend my   time fiddling with it it didn't take that long and  then um then you look at the text of what it sees   on screen okay now that's that's just part of the  equation so we know that a Windows recall can in   fact examine your screen and evaluate what you're  looking at on screen and write it in kind of a   summary file it can do that yeah media analysisd  the module that is uh uh the Apple version looks   at your photos in fact it looks at anything in  file manager I think because it seems to trigger   with anything related to any file change so if it  spots a file in its you know media it's able to   do the scan and of course Apple already said it's  scanning and putting into a hash file which is the   same concept that Windows Recall that it puts  a description of the image and if some of you   you know say well you know you're uh see rising  all this well that's what triggers your timeline   y uh is that what they call a timeline? yeah like  your history right of your photos? yeah yeah where   it it actually you know put you can search for  for a topic on the on your photos and uh I don't   know what the wording is I think it's timeline  so but anyway the point is you ask for topic   and you know the photos that relate to that topic  come out well strangely how similar that is to the   concept of CSAM that we've talked about before you  know client sides of CSAM same same same concept   you as the user can search through your photos by  description which is what Apple intelligence does   which is what Windows recall does which I'm sure  is what Google Gemini I will do I I don't have any   experience with that but that's what it's going  to do so now we have a case here where your phone   is accumulating data about you personally and  then store it into a file and then you got the   device history so Apple and Microsoft don't have  any personal history about you because they don't   track you over the internet and what they want to  do is make the AI a personal system and this is   very important because this is really where where  this is all leading this is why they never never   explain to you what Apple intelligence is really  for or what Windows recall is really for and   the the reason is or Windows co-pilot actually  officially the reason they can't tell you that   because they can't do it yet it has to build data  so the data that it has to build is what I call a   personal profile or personal context so once the  information about you and what your likes dislikes   what you do on the computer you know what your  preferences are uh what kind of music you like   once all that's accumulated it is now stored on  your computer so now your machine becomes kind   of a duplicate it's a duplicate of your brain  it's basically duplicating what you're thinking   everything about to is now on your computer now  at that point that's where the AI agent can now   interact with the AI and this is really a very  very important point here what will happen is when   you use an AI like Apple Intelligence or Windows  recall oh Windows co-pilot sorry and you ask it   a question let's say uh you know what what movie  should I watch or you know choose some music for   me or something like that that implies some some  personal knowledge what will happen is the AI will   take your personal context or personal profile and  send the AI agent will take your personal context   and send it to the AI the AI can then respond and  give you an answer now I I actually proved this   and actually wrote my own chatbot to to explain  how this actually works the way AI works is if you   just ask an AI a question without any context it  will give you a pretty random answer that doesn't   relate to your taste right can you imagine asking  the a I uh select the best music for me well it's   not going to know anything it's probably going  to ask you well what kind of music do you want   yeah it's not going to have that knowledge but  then AI that's been given this background I call   it a prequel will be able to do something like  this this is now the issue so the AI stores your   behaviors your your your activity anything that  you do into this profile and feeds it to the AI   this is actually how AI Works AI Works uh there's  actually many technical terms in AI for this that   I've duplicated myself and that is for AI to  actually be practical you have to actually send it   a context that's actual official word context it's  a context memory and currently the the original AI   that you know from from many months ago from  the beginning of the year can handle maybe 2K   context like 2048 context meaning you can give  it a summary of something that doesn't exceed   2K but the new AIS in fact the new one from uh  the model from China was 64k that was pretty   high and then the new chat gpts have megabytes  megabytes of context and then they're planning   on having unlimited context now what that means  is you have the AI with its intelligence then you   add intelligence to it with something called  context so it's context plus learn data and   then the AI then takes all of that and responds  to you and the reason this is important because   AI by itself only knows what it knows from what  it learned and it learned it from two years ago   or a year ago or whenever the learning was done  so it is not able to respond to current events   or current knowledge or your personal profile  now so that's the mechanics of an AI and that's   really the issue and most people say okay so  what this is really the question so what wh   why why am I talking about this what what is  the importance of this well the problem is   this personal profile context that I'm talking  about that's a description of you your entire   life is on the computer in a way that's never  been collected before never now we're talking   about a new style of observing you somebody over  your shoulder this is the AI over your shoulder   here looking at you and saying what are you doing  oh you're like looking at this kinds of photos   how interesting that's the AI oh you uh you're  very political I can see that you're doing all   this uh you're uh you're an artist oh yeah I can  see the kind of artistry you're doing and exactly   what subject matter you're talking about all of  this is now known by the computer in a way that   it's never been done and said that is now on your  device now Apple will say this well that's okay   hey and they actually admit that the computer  will know you well okay Windows recall says the   same thing the computer will know you well and  we say well that's not a problem well you know   me and prediction right yeah so you've enabled a  technology that collects your personal data and   puts it on the computer so what stops the  AI or the agent from sending that summary   of you elsewhere what stop that no I mean just  technologically what's stopping it and somebody   will be a fanboy and said oh no no no that Apple  says they not going to do that what is the actual   technical limitation it's going to be a small  file you know maybe a a megabyte at most that   describes you it says oh this person is uh leans  leans right and does this and does that and you   know and describes you in some way that somebody  can use and maybe it's certain behaviors oh uh he   has uh interest in these kinds of things and I'm  not going to mention anything that YouTube doesn't   like so we'll say you like jazz right you're  like jazz it's you know so so let's say that   uh somebody at HQ at Apple or Microsoft says let's  search for all the people who like jazz now I love   jazz so I they track me pretty much but they they  track me to the point that they know exactly what   I'm selecting on Spotify right so not only does  he lik Jazz but he likes this particular music   and he likes it in the background while he's doing  spreadsheets you know so they to that detail so   now that's the problem is that that data now can  be queried and Apple Microsoft Google can state to   the world and can state to anyone buying their  device that hey we're very private we're we're   not we're not looking at your screen no sorry they  are looking at your screen but we are not sending   your data externally and that's true they can  make that claim all they want iPhone is privacy   window recall is privacy we're just kind of like  stupid out right Windows recall is privacy but   that that's what we're talking about is they're  making the claim which is you know politically   nice claim that hey your data never leaves your  computer your data will never leave your computer   and they will actually be accurate that's actually  going to be true but nobody said the summary of   your data or the observations of your data will  never leave your computer it's impossible for that   to happen let me give you a specific again back  to predictions I mean you know this Common Sense   stuff but yep but just just so you understand so  you're you're uh you're on uh Apple intelligence   you're on Apple device and you want to write  an essay something near and dear to your heart   and if you go to college you know they uh  they tell you when you write an essay that the   best way to appeal to the reader is to put your  personality into it it's got to be personal Dave   you're describing your personality I which is how  I make my videos is personal if what you write is   personal it appeals more so then I asked the Apple  intelligence llm the uh large language model AI on   the iPhone if I had an iPhone and i' say write me  an essay on my love of jazz well of course the LLM   inside the phone is fairly small let you know I  I can't imagine being larger than your typical 4   gigabyte model so it's not going to have the power  to come up with a very sophisticated essay so   that's what you're asking for an essay so what is  it going to do well as you know Apple already said   and windows co-pilot has said this as well and and  that's the architecture is that the small AI on   your device will then send your query because  it knows it's too complicated will send it to   the big server now if you didn't know this the  the large servers now for inference is now on   Microsoft's data centers and they're the biggest  right now they I I forget how many thousands of   GPUs that they're putting in a month GPUs  thousands of GPUs it's a it's some huge   number like you know four four to 10,000 GPUs  a month a month expanding their servers to   handle because the GPU is a measure of how much  inference it can do so Microsoft is has very big   servers now and obviously it's not relying on  the AI of your little device or your computer   or your laptop it's looking to pass that uh  request onto the big servers where you can   do the more sophisticated tasks like write  an essay and by the way it's using open AI   because Microsoft is now the biggest owner of  open AI so if you're going to write an essay   David how do you have the big AI write an essay  ask that same question of ChatGPT just you know   she don't believe me go to ChatGPT go open the  browser and say write me an essay on how I love   Jazz see what it's going to come up with it's not  going to come up with anything because it doesn't   know you doesn't know you but Microsoft co-pilot  will know you how does it know you well obviously   it has to pass the personal context because that's  how AI works it needs context there's some there's   some more technical terms of how you you put a  database of search criteria and data and add it to   the AI I'm not going to get into that but the the  context is a kind of a general description of it   so AI always needs this context in fact that's how  AI is used to do text support you pass a context   for example in a business case if you're doing  an AI on you know H how to repair some rocket   parts it's going to go to the manual take the  appropriate part of the manual put that as context   and send it to the AI that that's how that tech  support would work same concept here except it'll   be your personal data now you you can see here  that it will be impossible for you to interact   with the AI without your personal data leaving  your device I I don't know how it's possible.  

So your prediction is not only is a client side  scanning where they're scanning all your stuff   locally but they're going to be sending your data  to central servers is that what is that what you   see that's coming right? Right but not not in the  same way that it's stored by Google because right   now Google of course stores everything you do  on the internet click to do on the Internet is   stored by Google using Google analytics and your  Google ID and uh Google Google ads and so on so   that's a different process because that's stored  in a database here it's stored on your computer   and send it send one shot to the AI now somebody  will say well they're not storing that and you   know what you're right they don't need to why  would you need to store your personal contacts   they don't need to all they need to say is AI  all the AI around the world find me this guy   that loves Jazz and does internet privacy that has  a YouTube channel find them find his device would   the AI find me think about that that's pretty  specific the guy that writes the videos that   makes the videos about privacy loves Jazz find his  device then give me his personal context and tell   me what else he does how do you stop that how  do you stop that is there a way to to stop that   I I personally have no way of knowing what kind  of program limitations this is not like this is   not like an algorithm like end to encryption that  you you have a specific math thing that you can   say oh we are certain that it's going to be secure  because of technology called end to end encryption   there's nothing to stop this so once you've  enabled the AI on device this is the difference   here because the AI is on device why can't you  tell the AI on device to do something well you   can because you can interpers an AI AG agent so  this is where I'm I'm specifically talking about   it's not the AI itself it's the agent you can  instruct agents to be on device to do anything   you want so that is my prediction now David this  is not possible yet somebody will say oh Apple   intelligence is not even going to go online  till December or yes even if it goes online   in December it's not yet the risk because it  hasn't accumulated the data yet Windows recall   needs to accumulate the data Apple intelligence  needs to accumulate the data on device so give it   a year a year from now the AI will know you and  then Apple will have ads that say your personal   assistant and this is the word that I'm looking  for personal assistant so my warning to you is   you haven't heard it yet they're not calling  your AI your personal assistant yet mark my   words David mark my words once they accumulate  the data they will start calling your AI personal assistant (hello I'm here oh hi) Why can't they do it yet because they  don't have any data yet a year from now hm   two years from now whoa so this is a building  threat so we're not there yet as far as data   the architectures to accumulate it and the  framework is there to use it now one point I   want to make here what does it relate to let's say  Apple and what I claim about Apple on the iPhone   well Apple has already stated that they could  look at your phone client side scanning and see   if you're collecting photos illegal photos called  CSAM you know we know that Apple said they can do   this now they said we're not going to do this so  they suspended the project I I've always thought   this was kind of a a test of the technology to  say you know how do people react to this if it's   done for a positive purpose but the fact is what  I was talking to you about asking the AI to scan   your device is exactly how this CSAM was supposed  to work meaning they already proved to you that   they can do exactly what I just said about your  AI being able to examine your content and send   it elsewhere there you go. So your prediction is  client side scanning is what we spoke about last   time that's happening now where they scanning  your device AI is running locally scanning all   your information so they've got that information  but the next step is push that to a centralized   AI which they need to do like on an iPhone if  it can't find the information locally then you   can get it to use ChatGPT as an example so but  that information could be sent to a central AI   but then the scary part comes in now where a  government or whoever could say okay find me   this person that fits these criteria or find me  these people and these through the AI connect the   central AI perhaps connecting to all these many  AIs if you like running on the devices they could   find you find something specific about you did  I understand that right? That's correct that is   correct. So every single device becomes a spying  agent for a government or a company whatever um so   unlike in the past where the devices were more  dumb now the the the the agent running on your   phone or your computer whatever is an intelligent  agent can understand exactly what you're doing can   make summaries of that information and that can be  queried now that's where it gets scary is that is   that right? That's correct now you even use the  proper term agent which is very funny because   agent is an official AI term I I didn't make  this up this they're actually called agents and   agent is a programming task that runs like a demon  program so that's the actual official term in the   AI lingo and surprisingly it really is an agent  it actually matches his purpose it's a spy agent.  

So the agent running on your device collecting  all this information about you it intelligently   understands information like your photos like you  can just on an iPhone search for like a number   plate and it'll find that information or just  search for some something in a photograph it'll   go through all your photos find that information  for you very easily so it understands the context   understands the data about you it builds this  context like you mentioned or this this profile of   you as a person it understands who you are knows  everything about you that at the moment supposedly   stays on the device so it's only scanning locally  so client side scanning local scanning but in the   future the governments are going to be greedy with  this kind of information and want to get access to   that so at some point the government could query  everything about you from a central location if   they wanted to kind of right? Right but there  there's a part that I didn't mention and spec   which is specific to funds and which is specific  to uh my video on on Apple intelligence and that   is the sensors the sensors portion so we talked  about media scanning you know scanning uh Windows   recall scans keystrokes which is pretty bad. yeah  keylogger I mean that's malware by any security.   Yeah but they're saying well it doesn't leave your  computer so it's okay it's your own data so but   yes so I duplicated it too I wrote a program then  doing key logging and then having to AI analyze   that I you know I wrote that people should watch  that video and and if you're a programmer type   so you can see exactly how I did that which is  very easy it was wasn't a very hard task to do   if it's not hard for me how hard can it be for  Apple and Google to do I mean it took me a day   so can't be like uh super complex now the problem  is the sensor so now this is why I specifically   focus on the iPhone so not only is it doing client  side scanning of media and possibly keystrokes the   iPhone has certain things that it activated you  have to wonder why they activated it like this   for example vocal shortcuts so somebody said well  you know iPhones could always you know interpret   your words yeah but back in the day you had to  press the button or you used to say Hey Siri or   something okay now vocal shortcut doesn't even  require any of that it just reacts to anything   anything you say which really to be to translate  that for you means the microphone is always on   and yeah yeah yeah the Apple intelligence never  reveals that to anybody else all the data stored   locally yeah same same same logic for client  side scanning but that's one sensor and that   bothers me a lot as well just right there that  the fact that conversations are being listened to   and the AI understands your conversation because  it's listening and the AI can do you know voice   recognition and translate that to text pass it  to the AI and then say okay this is what they   talked about they talked about buying a car which  Google would love Google would love this then they   got the IR scanning and I you know even I was  surprised by this did you know that your iPhone   is doing this IR scanning to see what's around it  depend I don't know what the range of a typical IR   is but you know I IR can reach you know the same  as your TV you know what the 10 ft 12 feet so it's   scanning the environment so the IR scanner is uh  is on the top of your iPhone and it's actually   scanning movement sense shape and can actually  you know kind of tell what's happening around   it that's a sensor then on top of that Apple says  oh we're doing uh eye scanning and then I have to   understand the technology of eye scanning here  you can't do I scanning with IR IR is not for   IR is more shape shape related because you know  it's it's trying to look for heat heat spots to   do eye scanning you need a camera you know am  I mistaken here that's my understanding of how   eye scanning has to work the camera has to be on  which means the camera is always on for the AI I   mean that's scary concept again the argument is  none of this leaves the phone but yet Apple says   the phone will know you well well there's no doubt  about that it's going to know you very well it's   going to know what you're doing at every moment  I am your father and this is now part of the   data that's accumulated by the AI agent which can  then be fed to the AI as part of your profile so   this is the additional risk of a phone versus  let's say Windows recall Windows recall doesn't   have the capability to sense that because you  don't have devices like that on your computer.   yeah Rob I mean you mentioned the US right  I live in the UK and um I have to be really   careful what I say now um but I mean you just can  do a search online to see what's happening in the   UK with regards to privacy and with regards to how  governments are or the or the government is like   making decisions with regards to getting access  to to any information um they don't want enter   encryption they want to basically have access to  everything and um people yeah I won't go down that   rabbit hole and that issue but basically you  can see the headlines recently in the UK and   what's going on here so I mean I think for a lot  of people it's okay governments are doing things   that a lot of people don't like in the US you  have freedom of speech freedom of speech doesn't   necessarily exist in the UK um again I have to  be really careful for what I say what can us as   normal people do do you have any advice about you  know what can we actually do because you say don't   get an iPhone don't get a pixel you know don't get  a Windows computer don't get a a Mac you know do   I get Linux what do I do? Well you need to find a  device that doesn't have the capability for client   side scanning and so it's really that that basic  and I actually made a video talking about options   and the idea of course is to not have some AI on  the device and by the way you got to be careful   with this because I don't want to generalize it  saying that all AI is bad what what is bad is   AI controlled by somebody else meaning they have  agents controlled by somebody else you can have   ai on your device that you install yourself I I do  I have I'm running an AI on my Linux computer in   fact most of the AI developers use Linux so Linux  is very well suited for AI use so that's different   when the AI is yours and you control it in my case  I put an open source AI on it but what you don't   want is when somebody embeds the AI into the OS  now that's very I'm being very specific here AI   embedded into the OS so to be specific with you  I'm talking about Apple intelligence Microsoft   co-pilot and Google Gemini so you got to stay away  from all that so how do you stay away from all   that well one of the safest options of course is  Linux so on a computer if you're using Linux it's   not going to have any of that by design and and  Linux doesn't pre-load any AI you can load your   own AI on it but it's not controll by anybody  else so you're good there so that's one of the   if I were in the UK in fact if I'm in the US even  if I'm in China I wouldn't want any kind of AI on   device that I do not control OS OS embedded AI now  there's a lot more options than the phone because   they're actually uh many solutions offered and  one of the general Solutions offered is called   a degoogle phone which uses AOSP which we've  discussed you know in prior videos and then you   can also have some other open- source equivalents  like Linux now at the moment this is not yet   mainstream running Linux like Ubuntu to touch  on a on a phone so the the main popular option   is that degoogle phone and there are many OSs that  of course can run on a degoogle phone and you know   you you have you can run the any of those and you  can put any of those into a phone and they'll all   be fine because they're not going to run Google  Gemini. So Linux on your desktop degoogle phone so   you you do you sell phones as well right so that's  all that's an example of degoogle phones correct?   Correct so we we've been selling our own phones  and we actually provide a service in our store   to degoogle phones for you if you're not techy  enough to do it but the prior model we've had   was sold out oh it's uh year and a half ago now  so we just came up with a new model that is going   to be released in January and it's on pre-order  right now it's called the Brax 3 and this will   be a very fairly priced phone this is probably  the first time that the phone is going to be   available at this price level and that is because  we want to do mass marketing here we want every   want to have access not just people who can afford  it so this phone is priced pretty much at half the   price of even the original Brax 3 it's pretty Brax  2 so this is very inexpensive. The other options I  

mean the one that comes to mind is graphine Os or  you've got um Kalix OS there various other options   the whole point is don't run the default standard  uh Google operating system correct yeah? Correct   yes so don't forget there's another one called IOD  IOD OS that's another one that I've introduced so   uh any of those will run fine they'll they'll do  the job for you. So run Linux on your desktop run   one of these degoogle operating systems the moral  of the story is don't use an iPhone don't use a   Google operating phone um I think that the problem  with some of these degoogle phone is the cost so   it's good to hear that you've got another solution  for like a a cheaper phone if you like or a less   cost a less expensive phone what about like your  family you know how do you convince them to to not   run the stuff because you know it's fine for me to  have a degoogle phone but then my partner has an   iPhone? Yeah so and this I you know I don't know  how to you convince somebody to to leave Google   if you know they're so attached to or using an  iPhone you know you you you have to believe in   privacy but what happened is uh our Brax 3 phone  for example is priced at$ 279 that's go to$ 279   and I'm going I be honest with you people are  buying them in batches of four or five because   you know you buy four of them and you're just  paying for one iPhone you can almost take the risk   and say okay I'll take the risk and uh see if we  can use it even if you use an iPhone part of the   time only that's already a big deal so let's say  you you put certain activities on on a different   phone and maybe use the iPhones for certain things  because it's tracking you remember so do you care   if it's tracking you at work probably not so you  know that's not absolute but do you want it to be   part of your personal life maybe not that's maybe  when you switch phone. So Rob as an example I   think you've shared in the past like you use Linux  for certain tasks but you'll use let's say Mac for   editing or something like that that's an example  of that right? I've actually stopped doing that.   oh okay. So so I'm uh yeah I I I'm so scared of  Windows that I don't want to do anything Windows  

so so yes I can't leave Windows because I'm using  DaVinci resolve and I can't get it to run on Linux   even though it's supposed to run on Linux so what  I've done is have an isolated Windows instance   that I only use for one purpose it doesn't have  any data whatsoever I don't use for anything else   I don't have email I have nothing on it so Windows  recall can run on it all day and it doesn't sense   anything because I'm not doing anything on it so  I use it only for editing which is however long   editing takes it will spy on my editing I know  that it will take screenshots of my editing of   a public video no problem that's all it's got to  see. So for everyone who's watching Rob and I have   done previous interviews as I've mentioned I've  link those below I've also put Rob's Channel below   please go and subscribe and show the love Rob  you've created a whole bunch of videos covering   this and much more in a lot of detail right?  That's correct. So please go and subscribe show   the love Rob thanks so much for coming back on  the channel and thank you you know for being a   champion for privacy. It's always such a pleasure  to be with you David thank you for having me

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