IT Industry Trends 2025: What’s Next for Tech, AI & IT Jobs?
what's up internet I'm Jeff Grettler and today we have a spice Works Spotlight that's right we're going to turn the spotlight on ourselves specifically around the state of it reports we're going to give you an Insight in that report and what better person to give you an Insight of the state of it than the head of Technology insights that's right he's a data Dynamo and also happens to be a break dancing boohemoth so without further Ado here is Peter TSai Peter what's up how are you hey Jeff I'm doing well with your role at spice works you are in the trenches a lot right the Daya dig for Peter Sai never stops right you're you're you're man of the people you're in the streets wherever there's some tech insights to be found Peter will be there yes per my title my job is to discover and share lots of insights with the spice Works community and engage in conversations for all of the it professionals to uh see what's going on in the world see how it relates to their jobs and see if we can come up with some learnings to help everybody Advance their careers yeah and and it's always I mean it's it's always a great uh session at Spice World when you are talking about the state of it and we'll get into that in a little bit but like I said you're doing this all year round it's not like a one-year thing that's just your WrestleMania but like when you go into the community you always have great posts like I love reading your post because it's almost like it's it's the coffee in the morning when you read that it's just like what did Peter find now right and you have a lot of good stuff that's in there so we were going to go through some we'll just go through one right now because it is the topic dour of one of your posts cuz there were some interesting comments on that so you made that post and we'll provide the link for you is AI worth investing in or is it overhyped I mean I feel like for AI this is like the first I mean you and I have been in this industry for a long time I feel like this is the first time that when you say something that used to just be like buzzword Bingo and it just really just affected specific to the industry this is like Global affecting everybody every industry across the the whole landscape right yeah and it's really the question is it is it worth investing in or is it overhyped the answer is really both depending on who you're talking to and the ID professionals were like yeah it's buzzword Bingo but at the same time it's a gamechanging thing that could fundamentally alter how we do uh how we do everything so I mean in the state of it we really saw a lot of both optimism and pessimism for it at the same time I think that's and again that's something everywhere but we're just going to focus on our community those it professionals and Tech professionals on how that's going to affect them cuz they definitely are going to be the first you know first line of defense on what they're seeing here and I think you know there's I I see that mix cuz we we always take all our new tech as a you know as an IT professional myself we always take that new tech with a grain of salt and we're we're always like trained to be like is this really just marketing or is this real like and in this case I think like you said it's both so one of the comments that were in there uh uh this is from uh badat names bad at names not bad that names from bad at names just like all heavily marketed new things it's overhyped plenty of value in it just like many other tools right tool for the right job AI is not a tool for everything at this point accurate right yeah and I can relate with that uh both in the data from state by and in the comments you can see that there's a lot of optimism for AI so I'll just share one of the stats with you we asked that question is AI worth investing in in the state of it we asked about a lot of different Technologies and then we asked people is it worth investing in or is it not worth investing in and then we took those numbers and we subtracted the amount of people who said it was not worth it from the amount of people who said it was worth it so overall we got a Net score of 68% of all it Pros saying that AI is worth investing in and making it one of the top Technologies they think is worth investing in but then the comment said that it's not really going to apply to everybody it's not a tool for everybody at this point we also saw that reflected in the data we asked about specific use cases of AI and then when you asked them well is it good for automating uh like a chat bot like an internal chat bot for your help desk then the they got a little bit squirly so only 32% yeah only 32% a third said that is worth investing in for that and even for the most common use case for for using for information retrievable through chat GPT only 43% a net of 43% said it's worth investing it so I think there's just a lot of excitement for AI in general and the potential but then when you say is it really working in your specific use case they're kind of like ah sort of yeah and that feels like it makes sense right I mean AI being we're finding way for automation to automate itself right so that's where it actually comes from but this is the first time I feel like the the you know the concept itself has to come with an aster right because the whole thing about AI is the training right as you train it it's going to get better so is it the right tool for this person soon when will then be now wild soon it feels like a wild card so as people get better at training these AI models then we don't know what the limits are I mean it's very right now you know I've heard a lot of takes from a lot of popular scientists out there that are just like this is like the equivalent of AI is a preschool level of Consciousness right where it's just right now it's just mimicking but as we know eventually preschoolers grow up you know is the technology going to grow up around it it's just like and we almost don't know what that limit is yeah it's like in most Technologies they're around and then they're just kind of a thing that's up next and then one day uh like for chat GPD it was a couple years ago everybody was like wow it's it's really doing things but then once people kick the tires a little more they're like but is it really and I think we're kind of at that point there's incremental improvements that over time will keep adding and adding uh but no one really knows where it's going to go and uh so going back to our data from the state of it a lot more people are kicking the tires so we run the state of it report every single year and last year going into 2024 only 25% of companies said that they had implemented AI in a meaningful way uh going into 2025 40% of companies had already implemented it so if you're if you're uh keeping track that's growth of 1.6x year-over-year and that's that's pretty huge that is huge yeah and looking forward we see an additional 22% of companies planning to adopt it within the next couple years so yeah we're getting a lot more Hands-On time a lot more people are actually seeing what it's good for and what it's not and meanwhile all the companies are improving their offerings as well and it's funny I saw a meme the other day that was just like chat gbt loses its job to new automation yeah because it's going to improve so fast I mean it's just going to be like the equivalent of looking at you know uh an internet browser in 1999 compared to now like you don't realize the shock there but I think this is one that it's not going to take too many outside sources it's going to start improving on itself right and then that's when it that's where it's really going to get really interesting let's just grab one more quote from that post uh that you posted in there is it is AI worth investing or is it overhyped um Mullen said I believe we're in the early stages of gamechanging Technology ology shift similar to the personal PC the internet and the smartphone it's already been extremely beneficial for us our customers and personally it's not a silver bullet fix all but it's amazing tool when applied successfully yeah I think that really gives color that really gives color to what I've been saying it's it's great for those specific people who can use it now but maybe it's not useful for every single person in every single situation but as time goes goes on and on he's comparing it to other Technologies it's in the hands of the Nerds and then then it goes to the early adops you know kind of the general public and then eventually everybody's using it and and your grandma's on it kind of like on Faceook then we'll see where it goes right and uh I don't know exactly which phase we are for which use cases but yeah we're still kind of in the early adopters and it's moving into Mass adoption at least for for chat Bots but for some of the more advanced features or use cases we're we're not really there yet so it's exciting to see where we'll go it's kind of funny the thought of like the family it support for it's like Grandma just like yeah chat PD is not working did you change the input if you're on the wrong input you know that's the always the uh family support just change the input you know what's funny uh being somewhat of a nerd one of my favorite Quantum physicists Thomas Campbell he actually has an AI model that he's training to be a version of himself so he goes like so when you're on their chatbot they're trying to make it feel like you're talking to him when you're talking to the chatbot and that's when it really starts to get like whoa kind of blowing your mind like wait am I really talking to him or am I talking to the digital version of him and then when that bleeds together that's when your mind gets blown just like well how many layers deep are we in this yeah and we've been playing around with it here internally our CTO was messing around with it and I said wow now we can really deep fake you for real yeah it really did sound like him so oh that's wild yeah and that's when things are really going to change but it's going to go fast but let's get into the meat of this right this again like I was saying you know especially around Spice World this is Peter size WrestleMania the state of it I always love seeing it at Spice World you know personally just to watch it but I love the excitement that's around it like always have the standing room only you know you have people like leaking out of the room because it's one of these you know it's a piece of material that we provide that like it's going to affect everybody in the industry so you need to hear this like you can't turn a blind eye to the state of it right especially since uh technology changes so fast you really should know what's going on in the industry at large uh so state of it covers not only AI technology adoption but it spending and it careers as well so as I mentioned my the goal and my job is to help everybody become better at their job or develop their career so yeah it's really valuable information for every people yeah and it's like it's really there's there's not there's no uh wasteful info in here right cuz we're we're going to the people it's the power of the people here and just like that's where you're getting the information are the people are Frontline Technology professionals you know and our Tech vendors out there so it's great information I'll U spiceworks research SL it hyphen report but let's get into the first one again we were well let's keep talking about AI right how are companies currently spending on AI yeah so there's a lot of different ways and AI is kind of making its way into everything at at the current time right so every software application is having AI features integrated into it uh so companies are adopting it through products they already use where AI being added to them and they're also spending on AI as a standalone product as well uh for example uh a lot of companies have a a license with chat GPT so they have their own private instance so their their uh private data or their company data is not being shared to to uh inform the model for example uh but I already shared those stats a little bit earlier but AI adoption is up a lot so 1.6x growth year-over-year an additional 22% of companies planning to adopt in the next couple of years and uh looking at just overall spending generative AI is the technology that is the most likely to increase in spending year-over-year so a lot of companies are very interested in AI they are kicking the tires as I mentioned but and they are making use of AI many different ways whether it's integrated into products they already own for example security software that uses AI to detect threats or monitoring software that analyzes logs in real time using AI or if they're just spending on it as a standalone chatbot type product like chap gbt as well got it so so the data in the state of it is showing that companies believe AI is worth it yeah we we covered that a little bit earlier but yes a lot of companies believe that AI as a as a general technology is worth investing in currently uh but when you break it down into specific use cases they're not ass sure but overall because of the the massive potential that AI might bring companies think that they should be investing in it currently even if they don't think the current use cases are going to pay dividends now but a one thing we like to track in the state of it is future Tech adoption or emerging Tech adoption so uh we want to see which Technologies companies are placing bets on and AI is definitely one of them um and which Technologies they don't think is are which Technologies they don't think are as important and yes AI it's the elephant in the room it is where uh the most amount of spending is is Flowing uh along with cyber security products but yes I think a lot of companies are very keen on seeing where AI can take them not only today but in the future and uh the money is also flowing in that direction as well yeah and it's just like me like I said I've been in the industry 25 years now and I feel like it's the first time like you get this piece of tech that like the the potential of it is like so high that there has to be a little bit of fomo with these companies of just like look we don't even understand what this can do yet but we know we we know what that we don't know something so we better start at least going into that direction cuz we know Tech changes so fast I think now we're at that stage where it's going to change faster than ever right it's just like you the especially the way you're training Ai and how fast this stuff is improving that there's companies that they're just not going to want to get left behind so I totally understand why they're doing that so companies clearly believe that there's something to be had there but is it showing is mostly hype do you think there's a lot of hype there and people are going to kind of bet on this horse that was just like overhyped yeah it depends on who you really talk to I think it professionals who are in the trenches are a little bit more skeptical compared to it professionals who are in more senior leadership positions so if you ask those in in leadership positions they are very optimistic about AI if you ask those IT staff members maybe the ones who are deploying it they're a bit more skeptical going forward into the future and also uh we also split split our data out by through a generational lens so if you ask younger it Professionals for example members of the millennial and the Gen Z cohorts uh if you ask them about the importance of a skill like AI prompting they're much more likely to say yes that's a very important skill I need in my own career to advance where I am versus those who are older so if you look at the folks who are members of the baby boomer generation they might be retiring soon they they might not think that they have to learn this skill because they're exiting the workforce soon so you can see through that generational lens a lot of it professionals know that AI is probably going to change their career trajectory over time so uh and and the younger ones are more keen on learning those AI type skills and they're more likely to believe having those skills is valuable to their career as well yeah and just to plug there was another post that you did recently right it just like is this younger generation as techsavvy as promised I don't know if that was the actual title but that was a great great read so definitely go check that out in the community as well that was a lot of interesting interesting opinions on that yeah and that that research covered well that they just kind of used iPads at school and they just magically work and now kids are using chat GPD in school so are they I'm going to write another article about are they Outsourcing some of their critical reasoning skills to AI how's that going to change everything it's yeah a lot of it is unknowable but maybe it's still fascinating though being in this industry to to see that and just like the generational divides I think are going to be a lot more clear now we just like you said there's Generations now that you know we always just like practice our Google fool skills like oh just Google it just check like I think chappie gbt is taking a lot more of that traffic that would have been Googles right yeah it's funny if genen Z is the generation that never grew up without Google the generation after them will be the one that never grew up without Ai and then yeah they'll be like look at these Jen ears they don't know they're goingon to be the future Boomers that's going to be funny to see that is going to be interesting to see 30 or 40 years yeah but yeah let's let's jump back now so we were talking about uh it careers is the job market currently thriving or doing well for it professionals yeah so I think in general let me copy out this in the state of it we have a lot of nuance in our findings there's always opportunities and challenges in any area but overall I think it is a good time for it professionals if you have the right skill sets uh so for example uh some of the data that I analyze comes from the US Bureau of Labor and statistics overall computer occupations are expected to grow 133% over the next 10 years compared to a average of 4% for all occupations so you can look at that and say Yes computer occupations are growing at a rate of more than three times the the national average so that's that's also yeah that's great news and looking at our state of it data we ask every year is your it Department going to increase in size or decrease in size over the next year and yes there too businesses who participated in our study indicated that they are seven times as likely to increase the size of their it departments than decrease so 43% of companies said they are growing their it Department in 2025 versus only 6% of companies decreasing the size of their it department so that's also really good news but at the same time we're talking about how technology changes rapidly and at the same time it careers change rapidly so some careers like in cyber security are expected to grow 33% over the next 10 years so that's much faster than average uh additionally positions uh in it management are expected to grow at around 16% over the next 10 years but at the same time some other uh positions are not expected to grow or remain stagnant or even contract so uh I shared some data in a recent post uh showing that some roles like Network and computer network and computer systems administrators uh growth in that in that job title is going to be a little bit stagnant uh compared to others but at the same time uh some roles like Computer and Network Architects computer network Architects uh their their job growth is expected to see 133% growth over the next 10 years so it really depends on what role we're talking about overall the it feel is expected to grow much faster than the national average but depending on what position you're looking at uh it's it's a different story so it's important to have the right skills to to ride the wave of growth is what I'm trying to say yeah no and that makes sense I mean to you know use an analogy from the new Willy Wonka apologies for the old Willy Wonka people just like you know his dad had he was the toothpast filler right he just like filled that and then you know a robot replace his job but then his dad got a job repairing robot that was filling the toothpaste tube so I mean cuz he still had an understanding of how the process works so it was kind of on us as you know to make sure we don't shy too much away from these new skills and find a way to kind of dovetail into what we know and our experience and what is coming and kind of learn from that because I think if you have that Foundation of where we came from it's going to make really support your job search and your skill set to make you valuable to these companies where they might be a little afraid like we're talking about fomo they don't want to be left behind so why don't you become that subject subject matter expert I don't think I never really thought it was possible to automate yourself out of a job it might automate yourself to the point where your job morphs but I never really believe got bought into that like you're going to just replace yourself I don't know I You' seen those you know some of those admins that hold tight to things were I don't think that's always advantageous you know for for anybody so right yeah you got to constantly evolve because the in demand skills are always changing right and um in our research we really we ask the question uh which which skills are important for a career in it and we also ask the it professionals who who took the survey are you confident in these skills or not and and uh some of our our results were quite interesting yeah again all your results are interesting that's why I just love reading it just like because there's there's theories and there's takes out there it's kind of like sports takes there's a lot of takes out there doesn't mean there's ones that are good takes but I love the takes that are coming from you and the state of it because they're actually in the trenches and you get you have that understanding and context CU you're hearing it right from the people right yes I'm just the messenger there but really The Voice I the messenger the voice is from the people yes you are somewhat uh the CM Punk of spice works right you are the voice for the voiceless there you go so we were talking about some of the skills in in demand obviously we were talking about AI but I another one that I feel like that's always going to be in demand and correct me if I'm wrong if the data doesn't show that is security right security is something that's always always changing and evolving and now more than ever so I feel like any any kind of security anybody who says any company that says I feel secure with my stuff are already kind of in trouble so does the data show that or is there other skills that are really important yeah so going back to the the question we asked uh which skills are very important currently in it to have uh if you want to grow your career and then turning around right after you ask that saying how confident are you in those skills so cyber security did come very much at the top oh nice top the top three skills that you need in to Career an it according to it professionals again I'm just the messenger but core technical knowledge obviously problem solving obviously and then right up there with that with those is cyber security so it is at the top of the top of the list however not that many it professionals said that they are very or extremely comp confident in their cyber security knowledge currently so uh that that's revealing a skills Gap so while 90% say it's important or very important only 63% say they are very confident in those skills so yeah that's one of the biggest skills Gap out skills gaps out there and that comes at a time where 57 57% of senior Tech leaders who took our survey said it's hard to hire skilled talent and uh right there you're seeing a lot of cyber security uh Talent is is not out there they're they're trying to hire for it but they are not finding the people that they need currently so but I kind of like that fire right I kind of like that the IT professional is like look I might not be there but if you have that fire to learn it it's almost like kind of look at yourself like that AI models like I might not know but I have the the desire and the the core understanding to figure it out train me like model invest in me and I will figure this out for you I mean I think that's a great to me that it's just like that's a very fertile field to grow some jobs yes yes uh and a very fertile field to educate yourself so yeah we also ask the question what certifications are most worth pursuing currently and security is the number one out there it's not networking it's not databases it's not operating systems or virtualization the number one certification that it professional want to pursue right now is security yeah I like it just be a little hungry just always feel a little insecure where it forces you to evolve so uh and speaking on that along the lines of jobs is is certifications are there any like hot certifications out there that the data shows or what certifications are worth pursuing other than I mean obviously I think Security's got to be at the top there yeah secur is at the top uh followed by Cloud networking databases and then AI uh what was very interesting to me in the data we did a similar survey about 10 years ago back then the top certifications were all in virtualization that was the big buzz word right yeah virtualization operating systems everybody wanted to be like Microsoft or Linux certified oh yeah that's that's very much towards the bottom of the list now and then General it support like everybody wanted to be A+ certified or have their mCP or mcse back then oh remember those days yeah so uh while those are still valuable for many people especially it professionals starting out their career it's interesting to see how the value proposition has flipped those used to be the top certifications to get now it's more advanced skills it's security and cloud and databases and AI right so it's it's interesting we talked about how you have to always keep learning and technology is evolving very quickly now it seems like the General it support and os's and virtualization uh skill sets are are kind of table stakes and now we're adding upon that on top of that I think the technology industry alone could keep the distracted boyfriend meme in business forever right just place what used to be at the back where the current girlfriend with the new girlfriend walking by I know virtualization could be that I mean Cloud could be they're always going to be there and that's a good thing right that to me that it's just like that means it's a it's not going to be an industry that ever goes stagnant it's just going to change it's just going to morph yes inde you know and it's just like what these companies and the professionals want to invest in that on that let's get into just the the it spending uh do you did the data show that Tech uh budgets are growing or shrinking and why do you think that trend is happening yes uh so it budgets are definitely growing year-over-year so every year we ask it professionals is your is your spending growing compared to how it was last year so 64% of organizations plan to increase budgets in 2025 and you're probably wondering is that good or bad well uh we also ask how much are your budgets growing so total it spending according to the 2025 state of it is expected to grow 9% year-over-year compared to last year when they said they budgets would grow 6% year-over-year so uh that's a pretty significant increase it's about a 50% increase over what they told us last year we also asked them what are the main reasons that you are increasing spending and uh skeptic Skeptics of the research have always said well that's just inflation right that's that's the main reason why you're you're increasing your spend but when when we analyze the data we saw that increasing cyber security concerns is the number one reason to increase spending going forward into 2025 and again that totally makes sense to to my it brain right that's that's where you want and I think that you know there are going to well I should say let me ask you what what does the data show for companies investing enough enough in data does it show that there's a heavier investment habit or is that starting to go a little bit lighter on the investing yeah so U we just covered like the absolute numbers so yeah most companies are increasing their spend yes we're spending more than we were year-over-year um and and the absolute size of the investment is increasing but we also added a question this year but is it actually enough um so at first glance it appears that most companies believe that they are investing enough um but again there's there's many sides to the story depending on who you ask so if you ask senior it leadership they're very likely to say yeah we're spending plenty we don't need but if you ask the guys in the trenches the IT staff they are 27 27 times as likely to say we are spending less than enough compared to more than enough but if you ask the it leadership they are twice as likely to say where're spending more than enough than spending less than enough so that's a huge gap in in a perceived amount of of adequacy of spend yeah and uh remember back in the day in spite I feel like this always happens but Spice World we used to do a very popular session also was how to speak CTO right of just like because that's the person in between of just like you almost have to now come to the table and translate what you're seeing in the trenches to the people with you know the pen the the doc you sign whatever to sign your your budgets right of just like getting them to understand that and there's different strategies of going about that but I think that's a lot of importance because again when you're at the top and you're just looking at line items and you're like oh that's plenty right and then all of a sudden you know you just the the person in the trenches that are actually doing the work just feels the the brunt of that and it spreads so I feel like that's always yeah there's a definitely a disconnect between the languages that the two sides speak and then even at my presentation at Spice World I kind of did a live poll uh where I was asking the audience if they had enough budget and at first I asked uh one side I asked the staff and then I asked the it managers and I and I apologized to them I said hopefully you're not sitting next to youry was yeah guy was sitting next to his manager so I was like I felt bad for him so I gave him s yeah it's kind of an awkward conversation and we we brought that to life in real time um but really work needs to be done to bridge the gap a lot of it Staff feel like they're being challenged to do more with less they are feeling the effects of um cost of living increases like uh some of the data shows that if you're an IT staff you're much more likely to say I'm feeling the pain of cost of living increases than if you're in the management class also smaller businesses were much more likely to be infected uh smaller businesses were much more likely to be affected by by uh not only cost of living increases but also product cost increases so uh they're feeling the effects of inflation much more than the Enterprise or larger size companies so live idea right right here where we're just talking about it for future Spice World maybe next year Spice World 2025 let's get one CTO that's willing to sit there in that session and let's make it like a a pitch Fest a speed dating or just like okay you just got to right now pitch your CTO and we'll give them the topic go pitch it and then have a CTO be like uh that's good or oh you convince me I feel like like a weird hybrid version of like some kind of dating game or something yeah yeah or shark tank for right yeah shark tank for CTO I love that yeah this is now we can document it it's on tape so we can record it all right Peter that's a lot of great information so the tldr and please do read it but for convenience sake right here the tldr what are the key takeaways from the state of it okay assuming you're an IT professional I have actually have key takeaways depending on who you are but assuming you're an IT professional the key takeaways are this uh the Outlook as we mentioned for IT jobs is promising both in the short and long term but you really need to have the right skill sets and even demand for some roles is expected to decline so the way to fight that is to up skill and to pursue certifications or uh do some on the- job type training for in demand skill sets for example cyber security being the most important skill to have where there is current Curr L A skills Gap so of course always keep learning additionally uh besides it security uh jobs in it management and jobs that are more uh in line with the design of systems or the design of software those are also expected to grow much faster than average going forward so skills gaps exist in cyber security coding and data analysis but also soft skills are quite important to I mentioned it managers are going to be more in demand going forward uh so skills such as conflict resolution we see a skills scap there and certifications can certainly help in all of these areas and we also talked about a divide between both the IT staff of the world and then the senior it leaders of the world so we talked about how those two sides really need to be able to communicate with each other so I think my main EMP my main message at Spice World when I was speaking to both audiences at the same time is that they should both have empathy for each other so it staff need to be able to speak the language of the boss so learn about the challenges that management and the business as a whole is dealing with and then figure out a way to make your case as to how investments in technology are really going to help achieve those overall goals but if you're on the it management side you really need to empathize with the the IT staff of the world they're feeling all these pressures to do more with less they're feeling uh the pressures of just Cost of Living increases on their on their bottom line uh so really uh for it leaders it's important to know that it staff and it Professionals in general think that investing in technology is is actually quite a good bet going into 2025 and if you are not increasing your technology budget over the next year or two or three you are really falling behind so most companies we said 64% of businesses plan to increase their it budgets year-over-year uh Additionally the the the absolute size of the Investments are increasing these Investments are going into Technologies like AI uh they're going into Technologies like cyber Security Solutions and at the same time uh to alleviate a lot of the concerns of the IT staff who are reporting uh all of these great findings and insights to us uh to alleviate that you really need to invest in people so if you have good people you need to invest in them to have them stick around and companies are continuing to hire they also need to invest in their current staff so companies are seven times as likely to increase the size of their IT staff than decrease in 2025 and there are skills gaps you can hire for that but most most senior leaders say it's very difficult to hire for them so it's important to help your current staff uh get trained up on on those Technologies um the job market is pretty good for your reports so if you want to keep them around you really have to give them a reason to stay around whether it's creating a good environment for them uh helping them upskill again or you know compensating them in a way that we'll want them to stick around with you for a long time see the great Peter Sai are doing these great speeches and you're getting people live to reach across the aisle and to communicate with each other and I love the story at the end of this is people still are investing in people before we go Peter I got to put you on the spot cuz I feel like as you are going through all this data you're the the Peter bot model is being trained where someday people are going to go to Peter bot and ask you something on the fly so as you're doing this year after year I mean your brain must be just like overflowing with facts let's see you can be a little bit predictive so what does Peter Sai Peter bot expect from the state of it in 2025 uh so yeah just going back to the tldr version Tech Investments are increasing businesses are also looking at emerging Technologies such as AI uh because they see a lot of potential for growth but at the same time there's also a lot of challenges out there there's a lot of uh challenges in the ter in ter terms of companies are even though they're increasing their budgets they're also seeing a lot of pressure from cost increases and from inflation uh and at the same time on the career side there's also challenges and opportunities uh so there's a lot of job growth to be seen out there for sure I mentioned 10year projections where computer occupations are expected to grow much quicker than average uh however at the same time you really need to have the right skill sets in order to thrive so pursuing certifications in cyber security uh and then learning up on AI skill sets for example um might put you in a good position to thrive into the future but overall we think the state of it is quite strong uh both from a spending perspective and from a career perspective and it professionals are just going to keep learning uh companies are going to keep spending and hopefully they will all be able to uh reach a future where they can benefit their organizations and benefit themselves as we all kind of grow as an IT Community together there it is as a community together together we stand divided we fall that's a great line to end on so Peter thank you so much again for joining us today thank you for having me so much all right appreciate it and I'll dust off an old one don't forget to Tech yourself before you wreck yourself we'll see you next time
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