THOR: Love and Thunder POST CREDITS and ENDING EXPLAINED
welcome back to screen crush i'm ryan airy thor love and thunder is awesome and there is so much to talk about after that wild ending seriously this movie was like a roller coaster of massive reveals for the future so many new characters so many new elements and stories for the mcu we're going to explain everything what happened to jane and what's the deal with valhalla and what's next for thor and love and of course we are going to talk about hercules who mean so many cool things for the future also we need to address how this movie sets up the return of loki and so many other asgardians so let's begin with the movie's ending that's all the crazy stuff that happened even before the two huge end credits scenes we're going to get to those a little bit later in the video the big climax of the movie takes place in the center of the universe and just saying that out loud is insane gore the god butcher seeks out eternity a being who can grant him any wish and gore's wish is to kill all the gods oh god she will die now gore is successful in getting to eternity but before we talk about what all that means we have to address these two massive reveals eternity and the center of the universe are huge first eternity this entity is one of the most important beings in the universe scratch that eternity is literally the freaking universe he and his sister infinity are the embodiment of the entire universe so let me emphasize that love and thunder just introduced a bean who represents the sum total of all things in existence eternity is nigh omnipotent he's able to control time space reality and even magic again he is the embodiment of the universe he's basically a god small g son so granting wishes is certainly in his wheelhouse although eternity usually appears only when the universe is in grave danger in the comics he's not really compelled to grant wishes to anyone but it's a detail that was changed for the mcu and at this point it's unclear if we're going to see infinity in person but she did appear in the sculpture in the temple right here and we previously saw her in the wall relief sculpture and guardians of the galaxy but the introduction of eternity is getting us one step closer to exploring the mcu on a whole other scale a scope that explores the building blocks of the multiverse itself and speaking of we recently got a tease to the living tribunal who is basically eternity's boss he embodies the highest authority in the multiverse and there's also a statue of him right here so all of this is setting up huge things for the future especially the upcoming multiversal war each variant fighting to preserve their universe and annihilate the others then there's the center of the universe that's the mysterious dimension where eternity resides the way to get there is through the temple with all the statues of godly entities now the center of the universe appears as an infinite pool of water it kind of looks like soul world only blue it also reminds me a bit of the tesseract reality from interstellar and inside the pool world we see eternity since it's where eternity is located that means that the center of the universe is literally that the center of the universe it's a reality that allows eternity to be perceived as a physical manifestation so yeah this actually is just like the ending of interstellar in the sense that your brain needs to do some serious acrobatics to comprehend this place all of this is one little girl's bedroom every moment it's infinitely complex the center of the universe is likely the mcu's version of the heart of the universe from the comics though the heart of the universe is not a place instead it's an artifact that grants omnipotent powers so the mcu took this in a very different direction so yes love and thunder just introduced some huge elements to the mcu now in the end thor convinces gore to stop and not kill all the gods and instead bring his daughter back to life and then thor promises to take care of the child so in the end gore was kind of redeemed you either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain or if you do become the villain make sure you are possessed by an evil sword because then you can become the hero again or just throw a bad guy into a reactor shaft and then you can come back as a force ghost gore resurrects his daughter and entrusts her with thor and she goes by the name love it's a lovely night that's a lovely name now this name is significant for two reasons obviously it's a nice spin on the movie's title but there's a deeper meaning in a flashback scene we see why thor and jane broke up sorry to hear that jane dumped you she didn't dump me you know i dumped her some mutual dumping they were in love after thor the dark world but then thor saw a human father with kids and it sort of started to make him freak out he probably was afraid of such responsibility but also because he's an asgardian and jane is a human mortal how would they have children how would that even work he's a planet how could he make a baby with your mother he would smush her so thor left missing out on his opportunity with the love of his life and now jane's dead well all right we'll get to jane from where she went in just a minute there's also significance in thor's connection to children in the movie you know one thing that's refreshing about thor love and thunder is that thor is still a work in progress even though he's an immortal god he still is improving himself and he takes time to learn new things hey that's like you you're always learning new things that's right because i use skillshare they're the sponsor of this video skillshare offers thousands of classes that give you endless opportunities to challenge yourself and learn new skills for instance i learned how to make animated faces on adobe character animator what a fun skill but when will you ever need to use that yes skillshare also has classes on how to create stop-motion animated 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showing how thor has changed over the years and why he's worthy to be love's adoptive father love is a completely new character for the mcu she doesn't appear to be based on any existing character from the comics the comics never focused that much on gore's children the death of his family is his motivation to go after gods but that's all we see of that family but thor does have a daughter in the comics he actually has multiple daughters but they're all from alternate future timelines the first is tauren thor daughter she's from a dystopian timeline appearing first in the animated movie next avengers heroes of tomorrow a slightly different version of tauren appeared in the comics but her name was bridget thor's daughter finally there's frigg wooden daughter and she is king thor's granddaughter frigg is the most similar to love only because she's using stormbreaker that's the extent of the similarities but i do wonder if the mcu will adopt some ideas from thor's daughter for love stories in the future so it's going to be interesting to see what path she follows will she become a hero like her dad or would the actions of her father forever hunt her you may have been your father boy but he wasn't your daddy the movie ends with thor and love teaming up thor is back using mjolnir and love now willed stormbreaker which makes thor and love disney's latest iconic legendary warrior and adopted child duo they joined denjaran and grogu and obi-wan and leia and here's a cool easter egg love is played by chris hemsworth's own daughter that's my daughter as well she plays the character of love now we did learn in infinity war that stormbreaker is not a weapon that just any mortal can use what kind of weapon are we talking about here the thanos killing kind don't you think that we should all have a weapon like that no you simply lack the strength to wield them your bodies would crumple as your minds collapsed into madness but love is not just any mortal in fact now she has superpowers and probably will live a really long life because she is imbued with eternity's magic and remember stormbreaker is one of the most powerful weapons in the universe it's capable of countering the energy of all six infinity stones so thor just gave a mad titan killing weapon to a child i hope nothing goes wrong there no give me that you have the little one now another possible solution has to do with mjolnir remember in the movie we see thor making meal near promise to watch over jane so he could have asked stormbreaker to make a similar promise and to watch over his adopted daughter love but love might mean something even bigger for the mcu remember love came back to life with eternity's power so in the comics eternity has his own personal guardian called captain universe it's a force that bonds with other beings the fact that love was resurrected by eternity might mean that she now possesses a fraction of that entity's cosmic force so she might be the mcu's version of captain universe i guess love truly is the most powerful thing in the universe love is the one thing we're capable of perceiving that transcends dimensions of time and space now speaking of resurrections we have to address the post-credits scene and explain what's the deal with jane and valhalla i know i know you want me to talk about hercules i promise i'm getting there this is important so jane died at the end of the movie she had stage four cancer and the only thing that kept her alive was mjolnir but unfortunately becoming the mighty thor only made the cancer worse because it meant her mortal form couldn't fight off the disease and despite that jane put her life on the line to stop gore and in a truly tragic end she succumbed to the cancer and died but no one really dies in the mcu anymore and if they do they usually come back no one's ever really gone but for now jane is really dead in the post-credits scene jane appears in an afterlife realm she's approached by none other than heimdall who welcomes her to valhalla now the way valhalla works is that those asgardians who had glorious deaths are worthy to enter valhalla it usually means an honorable death in battle like sacrificing one's life i bet you take your place in the halls of father the brave shall live forever marshall we mourn but rejoice for those who have died glorious death but here's the thing when heimdall welcomes jane he refers to valhalla as the land of the gods now this could mean two things either the land of the gods is a place inside valhalla or valhalla is the resting place for gods only but in theory all the asgardians are gods but in truth all of them are immortal aliens who became myths and were worshiped as gods by mortals we are not gods we are born we live we die just as humans do it will take 5 000 years so valhalla is the afterlife for the asgardians though it's doubtful that valhalla is the resting place for all asgardians jane and heimdall died for noble causes so they're worthy to enter valhalla but there's no entry for someone like hella the badass guardians are sent to hell that's hell with one elf valhalla is one of many afterlives in the mcu we previously saw the ancestral plane in black panther there's also the duat which serves as the egyptian afterworld there's also the actual hell which we might have gotten a glimpse of and doctor strange and the multiverse of madness and there's one reason to be excited about hell and that's mephisto [Music] which at this point i mean mephisto is basically just a meme i wonder who's going to appear in the mcu first mephisto or beta ray bill there's also soul world that's the orange realm where thanos was sent to after the snap now it's unclear if so world is an actual afterlife but it does fit into the way it was explained in moon knight you'd be surprised how many intersectional planes of untethered consciousness exist yeah also is it just me or is the scene where jane arrives in valhalla basically this welcome to heaven but here's the thing about jane entering valhalla she's not an asgardian she's human so she isn't supposed to enter valhalla if it's an afterlife exclusive for asgardians though the rules of the afterlife in the mcu are very loose so i guess the spirits of the dead go wherever the story needs them to go but the simplest solution here is that jane became the mighty thor and her sacrifice made her worthy to enter valhalla which is similar to how things played out in the comics and this also provides the answer to what's next for jane in the mcu jane's death in love and thunder is similar to how she dies in the comics after her death she was sent to valhalla but then odin decided to bring her back to life some time later jane became a valkyrie traditionally the valkyrie's main job is to guide the spirits of dead-ass guardians to valhalla but some of them were actual heroes like brune hildy from the comics who is the basis for the mcu's valkyrie and don't forget how thor described the valkyries the valkyrie are legend elite warriors have asked god sworn to defend the throne that means the valkyries are asgard special forces so i guess you can call them heroes so if jane becomes a valkyrie she comes back as another asgardian hero perhaps jane's arrival in valhalla is going to unbalance the scales since she's not an asgardian and valhalla is sort of an exclusive club so odin will transform jane into a valkyrie and this is how she'll return to the nine realms and reunite with thor as valkyrie jane could be a hero again and yes we already have valkyrie in the mcu but she's busy being the king of new asgard you know i used to want to be a valkyrie when i was younger until i found out that you were all women there's nothing wrong with women of course i love women sometimes a little too much okay so we were introduced to valhalla the afterlife for heroic asgardians you know what that means right most asgardians we met in the mcu are in valhalla that includes odin friga the warriors three scourge all the asgardians heli killed all the valkyries that she killed all the asgardians thanos killed thor's grandpa the guy who plays blackfish in game of thrones and many others oh right and of course heimdall well we know he's there already wait am i missing somebody wait there's odin friga the warriors three i'm tough loki of course i didn't forget about loki loki died after a noble sacrifice in infinity war so that means that he is in valhalla too and i guess that's how we're gonna get loki back i'm talking about the old loki not the new variant loki and this really makes things complicated we all love old loki but now we also love new loki so does that mean we need to choose between the two loki's can we even handle two different loki's loki how nice to meet you in the comics loki came back to life many times like when he returned as kid loki now we did meet a variant of kid loki and i wouldn't be surprised if we see a version of kid loki in the main timeline marvel is planning a younger avengers team up and loki was originally part of that team in the comics unless love is now going to take his spot in the mcu marvel wouldn't have introduced valhalla if they weren't planning to bring jane back and the same goes for other dead as guardians and as guardians have a tendency to be reincarnated so all of the dead ass guardians could return to the land of the living at some point though a mass resurrection might undermine the importance of the death of all those characters i guess the asgardians might remain on valhalla but not be reincarnated since it seems to be a realm that thor will be able to visit in the future okay okay enough chit chat about the afterlife it is time to talk about the last massive reveal in love and thunder and that's hercules i am hercules prince of power lion of olympus greatest of the argonauts first of all hercules looks freaking amazing it's like he's just been ripped out of the pages of the comics and it's a brilliant casting choice going with brett goldstein from ted lasso wait can i can i just say something first yeah okay that's a good idea because when i'm done you won't have any teeth left and you'll need them for the talking bit goldstein's personality fits hercules perfectly i'm so excited to see how all of this is going to play out in thor 5. hercules is zeus's son the king of the olympian gods while his mother is a human now despite being only half olympian hercules is considered to be one of the strongest gods he fought thor many times in the comics and he's as strong as a god of thunder he even held his own against the hulk so hercules joining the mcu means we got ourselves another godlike superhero hercules is coming after thor zeus tasked him to kill him this fight is going to be epic but hercules isn't going to be the main villain in thor 5. while he fought thor many times in the comics they're usually on friendly terms hercules is not a bad guy he's a superhero who was part of the avengers he even saved the universe all by himself in the chaos war storyline something i really hope we get to see down the line maybe even in thor 5. and who are you i'm hercules and uh i happen to be a hero now it's actually his half-brother ares the god of war who is the real villain and ares is totally going to appear in thor 5 especially if hercules fails to kill thor and then zeus is going to send aries to kill both of them ares was also a member of the thunderbolts and the dark avengers and marvel is currently working on a thunderbolts movie a team that aries could join down the line personally i hope that at first hercules is going to be way over the top but he should also be a mirror image to thor meaning he's like thor was in the first movie an arrogant hot-headed warrior who wants to prove himself to his dad by fighting everything and not worry about the consequences next but then after he meets thor and love hercules will start changing and becoming the hero that he is in the comics and thor 5 can play into the relationship between fathers and their children so much of thor's life has been defined by him trying to be like his father until he finally broke free of that and found his own path it's time for me to be who i am rather than who i'm supposed to be also thor is now an adoptive father and he'll struggle with that not wanting to repeat his father's mistakes but also dealing with the responsibility of being a dad by thor adopting love he's mirroring odin who adopted the child of his enemy and raised him as his own just like thor now adopted gore's child this art can be mirrored in the relationship between hercules and zeus speaking of zeus there's so much nuance to his speech the movie sort of made zeus into a joke oh you flick too hard damn it and zeus's speech is an interesting allegory to that he says in bygone eras mortals used to pray for the gods they didn't know if the gods were listening but they still worshipped them being a god meant something back then but now the world doesn't need the gods they have superheroes they no longer need to pray for beings that don't answer because the avengers answer their calls superheroes are basically the new gods and the old gods became a joke and obsolete now this sets up a far more interesting conflict for thor 5. it's more than thor fighting
hercules because zeus is salty no it's the new gods versus the old zeus doesn't want to just kill thor he wants to make an example of him put fear in the hearts of all those mortals who abandoned him thor 5 can be an interesting spin on the amazing thor god of thunder story from the comics that's the series that introduced score of the god butcher it was a story that asked some really big questions about what it means to be a god and whether gods actually deserve to be worshipped i went down to midgard to rule the people of earth as a benevolent god just like you so thor 5 can go deeper into these ideas that were presented in god of thunder and it might be more than just olympians zeus might assemble other deities from across reality to go after superheroes after all love and thunder introduced many other gods and we just met the any of the egyptian gods in moon night so i could totally see a war of the gods happening in thor 5. and that's how valhalla could come into play where the spirits of asgard will join in the war hercules can end up being a type of bridge since it will be his father who starts the war but it will be up to him to rebel against zeus's ideals and become the hero that the world needs him to be this can also lead to a crisis of identity for all the gods because in truth none of them are real gods they're all just aliens or magic beings they are all immortals who were accepted as gods and they lived for so long that they began believing their own lie that they're supposed to be worshiped thor 5 can unveil the truth about all gods and be a turning point for all of them and if the mcu goes down that route then thor 5 could actually be an even bigger movie than love and thunder another classic thor adventure but that's the explanation for the amazing and insane ending of love and thunder but what did you think about the movie what do you think is next for thor and love and should jane and loki come back to life let me know your thoughts down in the comments below or at me on twitter and if it's your first time here please subscribe and smash that bell for screen crush i'm ryan erie [Music] you
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