stripping down Liam Payne's interview
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it's almost impressive how quickly one interview can generate bad will towards someone that's it that's my intro hey man you're watching salon entertainment and today we are talking about the dumpster fire that was liam payne going on logan paul's impulsive podcast a few days ago i've said this before i'll say it again i was never a one direction girly i just wasn't i was always more of a five sauce girl and i didn't find five seconds of summer through one direction i found five seconds of summer because uh my sophomore year during uh my dance class uh a girl in my class was wearing a shirt that had their logo on it and i was like what's 5 sos and she looked at me like i'd shot her mother and then forced me to watch a bunch of videos of them and such and i was hooked ever since the rest is history it's funny that this happens now because in my music marketing on tick tock video that i put out a little while ago i mentioned about how i was in high school during the toxic fandom years the fandom wars or whatever of the obsessive fan bases of say one direction and five seconds of summer and sure enough a few days later liam decides to go on the impulsive podcast and drink just a little too much whiskey and you know the internet has turned on him immediately i knew the tone for the interview when it started out with liam already being on the impulsive set and logan coming and being like i'm sorry you are waiting this was recorded when they were doing v con which was a web 3 nft convention two weeks ago now i believe liam and logan both spoke on a panel and apparently logan and liam have been talking about getting liam on the podcast for a little bit and since they were both at this event and they had the uh impulsive setup they were like let's just do it so liam showed up on time and logan showed up late but liam being on time he was joking around talking with people drinking a little bit he was already pretty much finishing off a whiskey by the time logan got there and then he just kind of kept drinking logan talking about how liam owes him money or like you cost him money or something i think you might have just cost us okay a couple hundred thousand dollars send me the bill invoice me hey hey whoa whoa that's a tony's talk maneuver now i personally think it's one thing to have tony stark be your favorite character i think it's another thing to personally identify with tony stark i don't ask me to explain it i just that that was just i was like oh okay we're putting himself on tony stark's level that's that's where we're starting off this interview good to know a bunch of things were said in this interview that fans took an issue with watching this full interview there was a lot here that i really was interested to hear and i wanted to to be expand upon prior to this interview liam was not really on my radar in the way that i think he really wanted to be on my radar not that he wants me in particular to be on my radar but i'm just saying like in general this is how like how he wants to be perceived by the general public i knew one direction falling apart obviously my friend called me crying when they went on their hiatus and she knew the writing was on the wall and they were never gonna get back together she's a hairy girl so she's doing great right now i knew that he'd put out an album that was a bit of a mess in my opinion particularly his song both ways as a bisexual woman i had an issue with it and so i was just like okay cool not gonna you know consume his music you know listen to his music that's just my personal preference i'm not gonna do it and he was on my radar as well because he's been like what's the word cozying up to influencers tick talkers for a while now he released a song with dixie dimelio he's just he was making a lot of tick tocks a lot of influencers a little while ago and i was just like what are you doing you know like not again not to just i'm not trying to disparage tick-tockers in any way that's not what i'm doing it's just an interesting choice to do like you have someone like with the the halsey situation with the music like seeing potentially seeing you know marketing on tick-tock and having to resort to tick-tock as backsliding and then liam kind of seeing this is like yeah they seem cool like let me let me see what i can get from this dynamic not to say that he's using them or anything like that who knows what he's doing but that just seemed like an odd choice to me you know especially when you know the people that he was courting with or according with uh hanging out with were much closer to his fiance young fiance maya's age and again she's young there was some speculation on how old she was when they first started dating and i do think that that's personally from what i've seen i think maybe it was pr at first or whatever and then they actually got engaged i don't know it's up for debate uh but currently maya henry is his ex-fiance it seemingly publicly cheated on her he went to like a party got a little drunk posed with someone posted a photo it looks so much like maya that fans were tagging her in reposts of like liam post a photo with fiance maya like and it's not her she had to comment hi i'm sorry that's not me and it's like really heartbreaking that i keep getting shown these photos that's mortifying i'm sorry i'm not laughing at my like the situation is insane um and anyway uh it was not maya in the photo and uh their engagement is now broken off and we'll talk more about that in a second because this might be continuing on my point is with bringing up you know liam's recent actions with uh cozying up with content creators and influencers is i'm surprised it took this long for him to do the impulsive podcast and maybe he is as busy as he says he is a dad claims to have all these businesses who knows and apparently he's really into web 3 and nfts like i said with the tony stark comment i got the sense right away that we are going to be dealing with any go and maybe some narcissistic tendencies the thing is too is it's like it's so weird watching this interview with someone who has like a parent i don't speak to who has like narcissistic tendencies and uh is just overall a terrible person and abusive like there's certain elements in how they in how he's speaking that is very reminiscent of how this parent of mine speaks and it's the whole thing of like you can try and reason with them all you want they believe what they're saying they do believe that uh you know they are this perfect parent they believe that they are this perfect musician that was the honorary member of one direction and you know was meant to have the biggest turnout and outsold everyone would strip that down even if it's so easily disprovable he believes that about himself i truly believe and that's how he's speaking the thing also about liam that i really got from a lot of his stories in this interview is that there is a people-pleaser quality to him he may think he's the [ __ ] but he wants other people to also think he's the [ __ ] he's very eager to please innocent that came out with his story where he's talking about writing with pharrell and being the only one that showed up pharrell one day asked one direction to come right with him i turned up and i was the only member there and i was gobsmacked waiting for people to tell him where to go showing up on time listening doing what he's supposed to like oh come back in two years and uh he showed up two years later and was ready to go and then oh they want they want to get rid of me do i have to come back or i'll be a part of this band i'm getting ahead of myself i know this is going to be all over the place but there's a lot i want to talk about with this because i do think that this interview is fascinating in a lot of ways and the things that fans are picking up on i'm not surprised that that's what fans are picking up on like one line in particular um that i five seconds of summer was trending over this and ashton liked to tweet uh one of the first things that they were talking about was like the guys on the podcast were asking about you know like did you think you guys were gonna be that big type of thing or whatever and he was like oh yeah uh you know we we were like this massive boy band you know k-pop's doing really well i mean obviously we had five seconds of summer as well that would do pretty well the thing about five sauce is that they were actually discovered from a youtube video by louis and it's my understanding that in order to sign with capital records and tour with one direction as their opener they signed a contract that 50 of their earnings would go to one direction even though they were touring doing all these shows working constantly the lifestyle and the money involved was not matching up with what was being done career-wise because of that fans were pissed that they said did well as in past tense as if five seconds of summer isn't having an album coming out didn't just celebrate 10 years as a band aren't actively doing a worldwide tour right now ashton irwin who is the drummer of five sauce um he liked a tweet that says well he isn't making money off of them anymore so i guess he doesn't bother to keep up with their much more successful career then of course you have people who are still defending liam being like what the [ __ ] ashton he was talking about the years you were touring together stopped taking everything out of context and i don't think he's taking things out of context he liked to tweet like i'm bringing it up because i do think this is like someone involved in the situation you know interacting with the situation which i do think is interesting but i don't think it's taking things out of context he liked to tweet talking about making money while on tour you know and i mean i'm sure it's the much more successful career bit that that person is responding to but like maybe it's true maybe liam doesn't follow other doesn't look into five seconds summer it's my understanding that none of them are friends anymore like one direction and five seconds some are like though like they were friendly at least for while touring and then now it's my understanding that none of them talk um which i mean time different priorities different career sizes things like that you know so maybe it is true maybe liam just maybe does think that five sauce is past tense and you know not actively working and touring and making all this money because he's not getting that check anymore in his account who knows i don't know who knows how long the that was running for and all of that so another thing i want to talk about is the honorary member of one direction comment because that's something that leads into that's part of a story that i found very interesting and i wanted to hear more about um because i'm nosy by nature and a lot of people don't talk about things like this and he that liam is someone who has in a uh first hand account of something that a lot of people don't and it would be interesting to hear more about that but no we got to focus on the one direction a bit of it so uh liam went on the x factor when he was like 14. made it to like the top 25 and then simon booted him off and so simon took him and his mom out to dinner afterwards and said like listen you're just not ready right now like go get your education come back in two years and you know i think this will be something different or who knows what was actually said but that's what happened two years later goes back on the x factor and uh is about to get kicked off but instead they're like putting him with this group of people with one direction and uh calls up his dad and he's like they want to put me in a group like they were gonna kick me off but they're gonna fill me with with this boy band he said well you can either be a hundred percent of nothing or one-fifth or something and i thought hmm very clever jeffrey again i truly believe that liam believes that it wasn't so much as they wanted him to be a part of one direction and so much as they wanted one direction to be with liam you know and from what i've heard is that like part of the reason one direction was made was because of simon's promise to me that in two years i'll make this work for you wow so he kind of started with my face and then worked around the the rest i've never told a story before you you were you were the inception i was the honorary member of one direction yes and he told me that story himself in his house he truly believes that that them trying to make one direction work and keep these guys and get them all together and put liam with these guys or these guys with liam whatever you want to believe that that was part of simon's you know like i'm gonna make this work for you like you just gotta grow into your voice a little bit or who knows what's that's the line i always hear with uh people that are super young going on these shows think your voice isn't mature enough yet like you're still going through puberty or it's just starting or you haven't gone through it yet your voice is still maturing and it might be a good idea to wait a little bit before you come back and we try to make something of this and i think that that's not unfair you know your voice does change here and there but even then it's like he did wait two years to come back like he totally he did that and i'm just like again that people please depart it's like okay cool if i do what i'm told then i'll do well you know like and maybe that's not maybe that's just type a that may not be people pleaser but like i'm there there's that but within that liam was talking about how you know he went from making money and being on the x factor and uh you know being in people's households on the x factor to then having to go home and having it all taken away from him really quickly i was in a mcdonald's once with a girl i was with the time and like everybody in the city knew where i was so i got to take a bite out of a [ __ ] burger and then this guy just got x factor reject and the whole [ __ ] thing so i'm like you know 15 years old no security i've tried to do something i haven't done it but because i haven't moved now i'm i'm up for people really that's a lot for anyone to go through let alone a teenager you know in your awkward phase and you just you just thought you just came from thinking i'm amazing everyone agrees i have the x factor everyone's told me my whole life i'm so talented here's this being proven and then having it yoinked away and having having someone say you're good but it's not your time and what that would do to you at the time social media was not what it is now and so like it's a very different situation then than it is now and it would be interesting to hear liam breakdown have people be aware of me from being a nobody and then now i'm just watched and scrutinized and i'm just constantly reminded of the fact that i didn't succeed i didn't win and even if he does see it as okay it's just not right now it's not that i lost i'm just not ready right now they'll be ready for me then that's still gotta take a toll on you mentally and that's gotta be something that i think would be interesting to hear about i don't think i'm the only one never mentioned harry by name unless i missed it which i do think is telling and uh is okay let's talk about the fight let's talk about the uh shoving someone up against a wall so fans have a variety of instances of when they think this could have happened liam is talking about how he's uh you know he's done taking [ __ ] he made it very clear he wasn't gonna take any [ __ ] one moment where there was an argument backstage and someone one member in particular threw me up a wall so i said to him if you don't remove those hands it's a high likelihood you'll never use them again you're you're bullying a future us army soldier i gotta find that vine that was still that was that was one of my favorite ones that was good the confidence of a child the co-host of course they're like wow that's like intense and he doesn't say the name but pre earlier in that he talked about zayn because uh logan so many l names anyway logan was sharing how they had an issue with a similar member of the group zane because uh zayn and jake got into it like they had an interaction or something and then zane went to his hotel room and was like pounding on the door and no zayn was inside his hotel either logan or jake was outside being like let's just talk man with the vlog camera on it and zayn's screaming and all of that and logan's like oh [ __ ] zayn and my brother are gonna fight you know and then juji hadid went on twitter and was like oh ugly and irrelevant and all that stuff and i didn't think it was funny that logan was like and jake is ugly but he's not irrelevant and uh i don't know as a big sibling i resonated with that i thought that was funny if i had had to go through what he went through through his gr his growth and and whatever else you know your parents were supportive very very uh my parents are overly supportive to the point where it's annoying at times and they don't even mind saying that and zayn zane had a different upbringing in that sense i think it's one thing to talk about your personal interactions with someone i think it's another thing to comment on someone's upbringing especially when again i don't know what the situation is i remember specifically when zayn bought his family a house like that was like a big deal i don't know i think all families are different i mean i i'm saying that as someone who has a very supportive father and a parent i don't speak to you know like i think all families are different and you know that i would be lying if i said that my experience hasn't shaped me as an individual i'm a [ __ ] with an opinion for a reason you know it's a weird comment and i again when i'm saying like i'm not surprised people are commenting on this i'm not saying that like oh fans should just accept that and move on i'm not saying that at all you have the right to respond to a piece of media if the media is given to you and it's not like this was an edited thing out that was left on the cutting room floor and then they like leaked it somewhere like no this is the in the interview like liam is making these comments about zayn and commenting on his upbringing it's very it's odd it's weird but as far as the actual instance of someone shoving him up against a wall or have been trying to figure out one when was this and two who was the one who did it people are fairly certain it's not louis because louie and him are friends now but i mean maybe he would have said his name because he already said it in the interview it probably is insane because he is clearly has no problem throwing zayn under the bus and making comments about his upbringing so maybe he would have no problem with and again this is i believe this is he says this after he's talking about zayn potentially fighting jake so i mean it wouldn't be surprising it's like oh yeah no he shoved me up against wall one time he isn't it like it wouldn't be surprising to me if that was like a leap i think people have decided that there's reasons of why it wouldn't be nile like niall wouldn't just wouldn't do that people are fairly certain that it was harry is the one that shoved liam up against the wall uh because harry i don't think harry's name was ever actually said in this interview again unless i missed it he has talked about harry before i believe talked about is this was around the time that the both ways instance was going on but he was talking about like uh he made he did an interview or something and in the interview he mentioned like oh yeah i don't really want him around bear or something bears liam's son i'm not doxing his child's name he says the name bear in the interview like i wouldn't want him around bear i don't want him you know with lipstick and painted nail polishes and like made a comment about the way that harry expresses himself and how he dresses and things like that and fans ripped him apart it was it was brutal for a few days after that one it was brutal i'm assuming that liam learned his lesson to not talk about harry so people are really saying that the one that physically shoved uh liam up against a wall was harry there's a variety of reasons of when this may have happened again allegedly this could all be fandom nonsense but the one story i heard was that this was after zayn left the group liam was drinking or was sober and made a comment about zayn that may have been racial in nature the shoving up against a wall was in response to that allegedly again could all be fake people are fairly certain that it was hairy but there's a couple instances of stories that i heard where nile is mentioned so i'm like could it have been nile this one in particular was that they were supposed to go on stage and uh or something and liam went off and drank he talks heavily about drinking in this uh not like he has a problem he calls himself like a proper english bloke or something like that but he talks about drinking quite a bit he obviously is drinking throughout the interview um but the story i heard potentially is that uh they were supposed to be going on stage or something and no one could find him for three hours because he was drinking and showed up drunk people were worried niall was worried and that's what led to and like you were like brushing people off when they were worried about you for not being able to find you for three hours and that's when the shoving up against the wall happened like [ __ ] you we were worried about you type of thing there's a couple other instances but i mean those are just the ones that i heard mainly but again who really knows unless someone behind the scenes is like i was there here's here's how i know who it was and what happened and all this i really don't think it was zane it may have been harry he talks very briefly about therapy and talks very briefly about how some things have affected him now from when he was touring with one direction as a literal teenager he shows a photo of like outside of a hotel this sea of girls just waiting to see them and like hands it around all the guys are like oh my god like they're not prepared to see how many people were waiting outside of their hotel room and all this stuff we were making our movie at the time and i really hated the movie crew for doing this to me because they woke me up and were like oh we need to do a shot with you out on the balcony here you know they always used to ask me because i always used to say yes i walk out the balcony there's 15 000 people outside the hotel and i'm on my own which i'm not used to and i was like going into like severe shock i'm like oh my god like what do you say and then he starts chanting my name and i'm on my own it was a really beautiful lovely moment but inside i was like oh my god this is terrifying vm at one point says like yeah at a certain point the safest option the cheapest option for the talent and for the fans outside is just the lock on the door so it was often that we were just locked in our hotel rooms until they could get us to go to the next venue and do all of that going back to that situation as well i mean i've spent a lot of time with psychologists as you can probably tell the one of the biggest things that she told me when i was with her was that you know from the age of 16 upwards is one of the big things parents should give children of that age is freedom which often it seems kind of counterproductive but the cheapest security for the people outside and the people inside the building is the lock on the front door so we used to get locked in our hotel rooms all the time and what i find about my life now is i'm still in a syndrome sometimes where i become like almost agrophobic in a way because i wait for work to tell me where to go so the biggest thing in any any therapy session or anything i ever do is like what do you enjoy in life and i don't really know because i just choose to enjoy the mini bar and then smash up the hotel room that's something to be discussed you know like okay let's talk about how like how were you treated during this time you know you were a teenager for a lot of this how were you protected did you have a chaperone did you have a guardian how did they treat you was it a parent how has the things that you dealt with as measures for your safety that they thought would keep you safe how has that again continued to affect you i'm sure there's plenty of instances like that where someone is like okay let's keep the standard safe right now and it doesn't they don't realize how that translates to an adult or how that'll affect that person for the rest of their lives like being locked in a hotel room and being like oh yeah if you leave here you're not safe like that's terrifying whether you're famous or not whether you realize it or not he does seem to say that like it wasn't until after they went on their hiatus that they would look at like how many records they had sold and how many tour sales they had had and all this stuff and uh he would call louie up and be like we did something really cool huh like we did something pretty big you know what we never got time to celebrate that was the one thing in one direction that i always hated and so i mean i started to celebrate really early into um into award shows i'd like i'd make sure i had a good time i was there because i knew i was gonna be on a plane to japan and like sleeping on the floor he's just kind of always thought that as soon as one direction ended he was going to have this insanely popular solo career maybe he thought he was the justin timberlake there's a lot of people that say he was he was he was gonna be like the jc and then harry became the justin and all this stuff but these are instances that liam is uniquely qualified to tell us about that a lot of people one can't relate to or can't speak about because they're still actively under their contracts like you're part of one [ __ ] direction not a lot of people can talk about like how were you guys protected what type of media training did you have and why did you ignore it to do this interview like there's a lot that you can talk about that like it would be so interesting that your fans would love to hear that one direction fans as a whole whether they like you or not are gonna love to hear this is also partially where i want logan to like not have better interview skills but yes but also like there's just certain things that he would not know because i think they all said that they weren't super familiar with one direction um except for one of the co-hosts and then i just think that i don't know having a woman on set not even kidding like it doesn't even have to be a fan girl or anything but just having someone who can be in your girl like ask about this you know i don't know like i would love to know what liam feels like like they started talking about skin care out of ceremonies like what's your skincare routine can you drop your skincare routine right now like i've been asked this a lot i've been wrong i've been asked this a lot actually um i'm currently working on skincare routines coming out soon through the paul and paul designs it's like yeah do you feel the need to continue to capture your youth because the most famous photos of you are one in a group of people and also when you were a literal teenager like how does that affect your image of yourself do you always feel like you're gonna be playing catch up with your teenage self like these are interesting questions that i think would have good answers to them hopefully maybe he'd brush them off maybe he wouldn't answer and be like hey [ __ ] you for making me talk about how i'm a washed up hack at 28 you know who knows how he would react to that but the question would be nice you know especially like it's like it was just like kind of like an ego circle jerk at this podcast a little bit they went back and forth talking about boxing and fighting uh because apparently liam lately has an issue where he's trying to fight people he performed at vikon with steve aoki shirtless okay after coachella at neon carnival which is a coachella after party he was trying to fight cuevo again cuevo i believe was on strip that down for him with him for his song strip that down strip it down what is it strip it down for me that man i think strip it down i feel like stripped that down sounds better i think it sounds right anyway talking about that and uh how he was trying to fight people because they stole his table at coachella you left the table i mean unless your stuff was there and they moved your [ __ ] like i don't think you were right to try and fight people with your shirt off you know but that's just me and it was talking about boxing and fighting he's been doing jujitsu they were talking about who you would want to box he said he would want to box someone and okay here's what i want to talk about because i've made people who shouldn't be boxing the box my business bryce hall who i have seen box wants to challenge liam payne to a boxing match and says that he will challenge liam to a boxing match in response to this interview he's like [ __ ] it i'll box liam bang in the interview they weren't talking they never mentioned bryce or anything but he was talking about boxing and how he would box ksi but like logan's like okay so i would kill you would you fight ksi huh ksi yeah really yeah he could fight he'd have to come down a few white slots i don't think he could do it that's it's a lot it's a lie and he could fight bro you don't want to fight him he could not fight when i posed this question of who do you think would win between liam and bryce um people were like well like liam boxed during one direction touring years like that's how he stayed in shape and stuff and uh it was such a prevalent fact that it made it into a lot of his fan fiction my response to that is that i do think it's a very different thing when you're boxing for exercise versus boxing to box in a boxing match i can't say goddamn words it's one thing to punch a bag it's another thing to punch something hitting you back in the face you have to keep moving and you know all of that whether you spar in your boxing classes or not you know like without headgear like it's not fun to get punched in the face and you lose steam very quickly when your nose starts bleeding rice again i have seen box he boxed in the battle the platforms uh match last year against austin mcbroom and he did lose after saying i've been in over a hundred street fights and then in his after fight interview he's like i'm not a fighter i've never claimed to be a fighter you did claim but whatever i still think that was funny and though austin won that fight i have i don't think bryce is a bad boxer and i don't think that match in particular is indicative of his boxing abilities because and i compared this one again to creator clash which i just went to because the battle platforms was an open-air arena there was a freak like tsunami not a snow there was a freak monsoon like two hours before the matches actually started and it was so humid it was so uncomfortable my kneecaps were sweating i didn't even know that was physically [ __ ] possible i was exhausted by the end of that match and i wasn't fighting you know and i think that i could see how it affected pretty much everyone boxing like it was they were it was draining them a lot of people were not prepared for that uh environment to box in and with creator clash it was very different because we were in a closed arena it was much smaller and i didn't see the environment affecting them nearly as much because of that and so i do think that if they had done a small arena or closed air arena for battle platforms the fights would have been way different that's just my opinion and so i do think that if it depending on if this does go to fruition bryce may give uh liam a problem like i said even if liam boxed doesn't mean he's gonna do well in a boxing match itself he said that he's like got into fights with his manager because again they're both doing jujitsu my view is that if they box tomorrow bryce would win i also think that if they box six months from now bryce might win because based on this interview and the ego i'm sensing from liam i think liam would not train for the match i think he would just keep training and keep doing jiu-jitsu and keep boxing and all that stuff i don't think he would start being like i am training for this fight you know and i do think that again working out for exercise and boxing for exercise is different than boxing for a match and training to box for a match and so i think that he would think like oh i don't need to take this that seriously because it's bryce hall and i'm i'm liam payne and i think that bryce may destroy him if he takes it like even a modicum of seriously like that's it do i think this fight is gonna happen no idea at the time recording this i don't know everyone's talking about this on social media and so uh the liam stuff not bryce and liam but so in doing that bryce is like oh this is my shot i'll involve myself in this i'll align myself with the fans who are mad at liam right now fairly smart tactic frankly and so we just keep saying like i'll box liam let's go i'm gonna fight liam let's go and then maya henry liam's ex-fiance posted a tick tock using tana's uh hollywood fix uh audio before the austin versus bryce fight where she's like uh we're team bryce out here yeah even the paparazzi's team bryce on god but you know we do price out here that's right even the paparazzi team right now yeah if they fight i'm not rooting for my ex beyonce i'm rooting for bryce i want to see this happen i really do i want to go my friends who don't go to any of these boxing matches with me are like we'll go like we'll go with you so i just i want to see this happen i think it'd be great i want to be ringside i want to see how this will go i think this is the natural progression of liam payne's career is boxing tick-tockers i think that's where this is heading anyways that's really all i mainly wanted to talk about is trying to get people to rally behind the fight i want to see it happen again why i think he's a people-pleaser type a he talked about how when writing with one direction like you start understanding what people want and how to write to give them that and now he's talking about what music he wants he doesn't want to write like emotional music he doesn't want to write like very personal tunes he wanna he wants to write like dance beats things that you can dance to and that's the type of music he wants to do and i think that was very prevalent on his first album whatever he wants to do with his life i think there's a commercial there was a commercial appeal to him and that's maybe why he was trying to kind of cozy up with these content creators like this is what's popular right now dixie dimelio is popular right now let's get on a song together so maybe this this was him again trying to appeal to a younger audience with a new audience that he wants which is the tick tock logan paul fan base you had to have had media training i don't think you're one direction with the vault that a lot of these guys were in and you don't have media training so i'm trying to understand if he thinks that he's too smart for it or if he doesn't need to or if he even has a publicist right now like i'm trying to understand what choices were made here he has a manager but apparently this manager is like doing boxing training with him and not you know maybe don't go on the podcast you know maybe don't drink actively while on this podcast what do you think did you watch the interview um do you think it was a good idea for him to go on the interview do you think that he can come back from this because i do think that there is always an element now of purposely getting cancelled to help a career i don't think that this is one of those times i truly think he was trying to be cool and like relatable to the guys and so he was sharing all these stories and things like that and i don't think he's anticipated the response maybe he anticipated a little bit of response but maybe he thought i'd still get support and though there are still supporters i don't want to say i'm not erasing liam stands or anything like that it is still overwhelmingly not fans of blame right now so let me know what you think comment down below reminder i have a podcast this well shannon's podcast new episodes every wednesday reminder i have merch like that mug back there shout out to my patreon thank you so much for supporting me on patreon if 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