MY WORST TOURING NIGHTMARE - Moving Differently EP25

MY WORST TOURING NIGHTMARE - Moving Differently EP25

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and in this week's episode of moving  differently we're going to talk to   you about what does a tour manager  do i love it i absolutely love it our flight's been cancelled we are in an  uber to new york from montreal canada james welcome to new york welcome sounds terrible we've been  here all week i've been in the studio   making music and now it's time for  more shows we're going to montreal   today spending like four hours in canada playing  a big festival there coming back to new york at   night two shows in new york one in new york  one in new jersey tomorrow and then going to   seattle opposite side of the country on sunday  to play a day trip festival and then going home let's go let's get a transition it's like half past one in the  afternoon it just touched down   we're going to this festival called hill  sonic is that what i'm saying right yeah   yeah i knew it right because i heard  him playing playing at 3 55 p.m   and then we're going straight back to the  airport and going back to new york because um so yeah i also need to get some sort  of set ready because i'm dying so yeah   now i'm actually okay transition probably remember the last time and the  first time we came to a festival in canada   they had no barriers anywhere people could just  walk everywhere there was nothing stopping them   so i'm kind of interested to  see if it's the same today the most minimal barrier now to get to the market   yeah like we come to the hardest bit  and we haven't really been through any rash because this episode's about being a tm  like what's the hardest part about being a tm   hardest part about being a tm keeping everyone  on time timing is everything everything is to be   in order that's the hardest part of reality  and timing i'm going to be being a team for   now rashford i've been a tm for two years but um  bit of tm for james come up to a year in september   she's yeah what do you like about being a tm  um the best part about being a team is the   different tasks you have to tackle along the  way when it comes to technical when it comes   to hospitality yeah it can get difficult can  get annoying but i love it i absolutely love it what makes a tm a good tm four-sided tape you hear that make sure you go double-sided listen essentials oh what's going on essentials make sure you've got a good vest  as well fisherman vest is essential   definitely is apart from that though not not so  much equipment but what makes a good tour manager   i know it sounds like i'm repeating but  timing time is important organization   making sure you're organized because you're  not organized your team's not going to be   organized there needs to be someone that's  organized on this team ain't that right james all right ready thanks mate no bomb all right welcome to montreal  canada i don't know if i'm saying it right because   when they say you're afraid it's like  montreal but i'm like montreal you know   like oh i just hope they understand me on the  mic um we're here at this festival called sonic   um i got a big [ __ ] off towel in my hand and in this week's episode of moving  differently we're going to talk to you about   what does a tour manager do you  may have heard this calling it tm   stands for tour manager so what is a tour  manager or a tm what the [ __ ] did they do transition   yeah is um and now the spears are not working evo so they put  three thousands in insane they will see the j3 000   instead but of course we know how unreliable  they are so we're gonna have to have a quick no the stairs as well um they're just doing  like a changeover to change out all these pets   it's not ideal but i'm not about to try  and play on like broken decks or something sean's up there uh new york what is it yeah  they're still in the decks on one side they're like deck four plugged  in through channel three in it inside all right [ __ ] ghosts how you feeling warm   hot it's [ __ ] sweaty man is it windy up  there or nice no sauna up there probably   this is a sauna mate you're gonna  sweat the [ __ ] but it's good bro i've had that new dj khaled song stuck in my head   since mid staying alive since  [ __ ] midnight it's just ah he [ __ ] loves it foreign it's in the future they tell me right i you stole cheese me oh with me in the way j type [ __ ] james [ __ ] give me a six foot jumps maybe seven  forty two give me a seven foot john   in [ __ ] sandals me i'm [ __ ] there yeah i thought i thought that happened in  the subs the stars went up and when i said   well the subs went off yeah when we were down  there yeah i didn't know what that was done   oh so the sun was actually  coming out so i was like oh uh it's 502 now it's gonna take about four four  five minutes to get back to the compound and we   are leaving dead on 5 30. oh that's cool yeah  i'm giving you enough time to sort yourself   out here oh the way you were shouting i was  like [ __ ] we're leaving one minute i said   half past before we left that yeah so 5 30  dead on because we have a 650 check it um complete what's going on bro um basically we got ticks  as we pulled up to the airport that our flight's   um been flights have been cancelled on all  the major airlines canada american delta trying to find alternative flights the morning  flights were cancelled but the next fight we could   get it's not till nine o'clock at night we have a  show tomorrow in new york so um right now trying   to find every possible way to get back to new york  um just made a couple of phone calls as you can   see i'm on my laptop trying to work it out now um  but yeah as i said i've always got to be prepared   always got to be prepared for something to  happen it's all good man it's all part of the job get a couple of deals got one let's go all right   i'm i'm going to talk to us about this now and um  i'll let you know what we do okay yeah all right thanks for your drive how far is  it road trip road trip we need to   get a car before they all [ __ ] play um  that's what those guys are doing as well   so we're getting a car otherwise  we're not going to make it tonight um i'm just saying we picked the perfect  time to come this episode trust me   so basically there are no higher cards available  in the whole [ __ ] place like can you believe   that i don't know well they did have one option  they had a tesla available but they said with   the tesla you can't do it one way higher so we  would have to also return it to montreal if we   hired it for module so that's not gonna work um so  now we're looking at other ways we can get there   where is um oh yeah you've got to get through time  you can't just go straight down through vermont   that's another one that's another one surely  that's quicker than going through toronto yeah   there's two sides with triangle richard muslims i  don't know as a tm in situations like these what   do you do hey i'm told i keep repeating you're  gonna think this whole episode is like a repeat   but you always have to be prepared for the worst what did you do to prepare for the  situation got a driving license yeah   yeah i was prepared i was prepared for when i  was 17 years old bro what are you talking about   sorry i'm still trying to work  out so i'm thinking we get uber xl   yeah right so we've got an uber driver  who's hopefully going to take us to new york   um but if it's i can't tell have a newest  car if it's horrible we'll just be like oh i want to go to new york  can you take us to new york   yeah i'll give you cash as  well as uber how much card 1000 let me think about it update so we got a thousand dollars cash i  feel like a rapper start doing poses with it   and we've got a nice uber driver who actually  seems willing to take us look at that dog um and we've got is it this way i'm following  you um door seven four seven usn and we got   ourselves an uber driver who we booked him for  the job and he was like yeah i'll do it but it's   not worth it if i do it through the app so let's  do it cash i'm like yeah okay i understand that   because obviously they take a percentage off  him and he's got to pay his taxes and stuff so obviously we don't endorse anyone not  paying taxes but uh this guy's got to live   so yeah we got cash and he's going to drive us  to new york he's a bit of an adventure in it all right i'll give you 500 when we get to the end of  the uber trip yeah okay and then i'll give   you the other 500 when we get to new york  and i'll pay for the tall as well okay okay here we [ __ ] go we are in an uber  to new york from montreal canada   let's [ __ ] go ash what does a tour manager  do but you weren't expecting this today for the record i'm gonna show you how long this is gonna take you see that focused yeah yeah all right six hours  and forty minutes six thousand kilometers here we [ __ ] go it's literally  just like the front board what's going on um we just stopped for some snacks   use the bathroom and we go  back to the car with my man   that's going to give you some of the cash now  let's talk about canadian money as a queen on   it oh my god right i don't know how many people  know this canadian money i didn't know this   canadian money has [ __ ] queen elizabeth  on it all right let's go lizzy lizzy roshan   hello for any tms out there what advice  would you give for situations like this um just keep another head everything will work  out you really would for the right price it's two in the morning we didn't  even stop not once all right rashaan how you feeling transition yo good morning can't believe we actually made it back um yeah today we are playing  two shows in the new york area   uh one in manhattan in the afternoon and then one  in new jersey at night and right now we have to go   to another hotel for [ __ ] four hours of just  [ __ ] but just how this [ __ ] goes let's go let's find out all these james you know how you feeling bro yeah way better  now i felt like [ __ ] this morning just because   of that long drive last night and then i don't  know i just didn't sleep very well woke up drunk   a ton of coffee didn't realize i hadn't done  getting water in about 24 hours went to the gym   drunk or water and now we're back vegeta has got a  cool jersey from a sports shop so now i'm looking   sporty and ready to go we're here in manhattan  where they obviously don't maintain the roads and we are one minute away from somewhere  nowhere um i'm putting a set together it's mike because i thought we were doing a  pool party turns out it's not a pool party   it's actually indoors and it's a sunset party kind  of weird because we're going into a nightclub in   the day and here it is oh there she is you're  good you're going to be impatient there mate we're not even late impatience a key factor you should get it okay is uh easy hey let's go   so it's like so uh uh james hype [ __ ] james hiding [ __ ] james [ __ ] we are in neptune new jersey's right yep  about to play the second show today called   the jersey shore yeah clubs jersey shore club's  called um in the jersey shore like bully d   except um i know i sound just like him um yeah  so we are here head-on oasis headliner i think   yeah atlanta you just shortened it he  abbreviated it that's what tour manager does   that's it we get everything well so basically  what we went through while james was on set i   was going on a back up forward with the manager  of this venue right now um apparently i can't see   the cdjs were actually incorrect and they had  confirmed the wrong equipment for james as you're   aware james uses four cdjs 2000 nexus they had  nexus ones that probably ordered in some viewers legit yeah cdj 2000 nexus ones are pretty pretty  [ __ ] old like probably 10 more than 10 years old   yeah yeah yeah right yeah i  think they came out in 2011.   yeah yeah we googled it yeah but um yeah it's  been results we actually pulled off and i got the   official video saying everything's all done  these are kind of things that happen usually   they'll confirm equipment that is not actually  there so you have to um no you don't have to but   you just need to make sure the equipment is  up to stretch and available for james to use you just talk about what you just  did like before shows what do you do   oh um before shows i usually go in to just  check the surrounding area especially around   the dj box to see the accessibility for change  to come into the building basically health and   safety just making sure everything's all right  um just went in it is ram there's a sweat definitely going to be an epic show the decks came   the cdjs but um yeah  everything's working condition so   yeah it's gonna be a great show are you ready  for this yeah i'm ready all right let's go me so disconnected i feel it at all do you still want me can i be honest i still want  your hands on my body you still make my heart beat do you still want faster kids thank you yo we are here at newark airport yeah we i'm so  tired man it's so hard doing two shows in one day   um so we're going to the hotel to get like one  hour sleep and then we're flying to seattle   it's a six hour flight so i'm  gonna get to sleep on the flight   uh so yeah we're gonna do the debrief in a second  but it's too loud in here it's like crazy air   conditioning which i'm really grateful for but  maybe they need to make it quieter transition   yo welcome to our beautiful hotel where we  get to spend the next 2 hours and 58 minutes   before our flight to seattle um what a [ __ ]  day i'm absolutely exhausted the first show was   absolutely fire like fire fire fire um like just  the fire is fire sometimes right bro sometimes   i'll forget how many iphone members there are  around the world and i'll do a show like that   and i'll be like oh [ __ ] like just a wild amount  of high fun there was a guy there in an original   social distancing social club t-shirt real  hype from know how old died um amazing show   we got to see the sunset on the new york skyline  from the middle of manhattan so cool so i really   enjoyed playing played some cool tunes um  yeah it was just [ __ ] vibes it was so good   they had some like weird fader caps on  the mixer which were a bit annoying but   proper for you bro bro you know when you're so  familiar with a piece of equipment and then you   touch it it doesn't feel right that's what it's  like when people put those replacement fading   caps on it's like not just by the pioneer ones and  then that second show was just done that was wild   the people were so close there's so many hype  found like every time we're in new york or new   jersey the amount of hype fam is just unbelievable  that i think more than anywhere else in the world   um so many stereo hard tops so many people  like with the craziest signs so many walleyes and yeah the club's [ __ ] tight club was  [ __ ] tired um it's just it just survived   it literally just was just a vibe it was it's a  weird club man it's a weird place like the people   are amazing but then it was like they had no  lighting or anything like that it was kind of   delighting was just on one color  and just stayed like that so it   was like yeah it's going up but  then the room is just like blue see it's kind of mad but the people were  amazing did you see the did you see the   pink flowers on the wall it was more color  yeah yeah yeah i did see this pink yeah yeah   you're kind of mad um so yeah all in all  [ __ ] wild day here in new york and new jersey   so the show in montreal um it was it  was like better than i expected because   roshan went to the stage like an hour and 30  minutes before my set and sent me a video and   there was zero people there like the stage was  just opening and then there joel cory on like   20 minutes after that and i was like yo there's  no no one there like not a single person there i   was like where are the people gonna come from  so then we got there just before my set and   there were actually people there so it was okay  and then it got like really busy when i went on   um which was cool uh weird thing was the stage  was enormous but i wasn't in the middle of it   i was like over at one side of the stage  like i don't know i don't know how that   happened um but it was just like the the  dj thing just wasn't in the middle of the   stage which is kind of annoying because  i felt like i was turning to one side to   look at where the crowd was and you'll probably  notice that when you see the videos um the uh   i um i care what you mean about i think it  was more the way they structured the layout   so when you see the video people on the right hand  side that whole big space was just for vip which okay but it just it didn't look right do you know  me yeah they didn't give you the because if you   panted the left how many vip does it yeah and you  pan to the left it was just like it was packed   um the oh when we when we ran down to the front  to see the people mate they were [ __ ] crazy   like the wildest wilders fans canada undefeated  of course we went down there and i was like   he jumped about seven foot it was a big jump  yeah yeah yeah he was taller than my man and   he looked pretty tall yeah yeah um so yeah the  guys had a huge banner kind of hype i'm undefeated   uh and yeah when we saw them i was like yo  you lot going mad but because the stage was   so high i couldn't tell how energetic they were  from up there so it was one of them gigs where   i was a bit like i had to really focus in on the  energy from the people because i wasn't feeling it   necessarily because it was so far away but yeah  i really enjoyed it the place was really cool   canadian festivals are so different to north  american festivals next yeah very relaxing we were   just there like ah very relaxed ah yes chilled and  even like all the backstage all the artists there   is everything's just so chilled and peaceful it's  like just it's just canada it's mad um so yeah i   think i think that's everything about that show  right yeah yeah all right [ __ ] it let's get   some sleep um wallace you good yeah i'm good you  look great william thanks waiting for a transition   okay i see one thing you know i can actually  say you've really got a while asleep   that's a lie no it's not we've got 2 hours and 55  minutes don't try to make it a thing bro we've got   two hours sleep it's 3 28 now yeah we're leaving  at 6 20. it's not an hour a bit it's 2 hours  

50. i'll i'll place a bet with anyone that can  work out how long james sleeps for would it be   a bit he say one hour oh man i'm having a shower  and then i'll probably get out the shower and be   like there's no point going to sleep the point is  if i wanted to sleep for 2 hours and 50 i could good night sorry you've got six we're bored in 20 minutes   you're what we're bored in 20 minutes  all right it's all fights 20 7. my family is originally from six off like whoa transition today get ready for the show i'm going to talk a bit  about what a tour manager does for me as well okay that one's really zoomed in so what does the tm do you take a piss out wallace for being so good no come it's not just one picture either  there's a lot of pictures that happens   every photo i have oh we have it's inserted yo welcome to this hotel um they don't have a room  ready for us yet which is no surprise since we're   here at 11am um but we were hopeful the guy  said they can hopefully get a room ready for   us by 12 which is pretty good so yeah we're here  in seattle i think we're in like downtown seattle   um and i thought i would take this opportunity  to speak to you about why i needed school manager   sometimes see people in the comments like  i can't remember the exact word but the guy   the guy basically said why does dj need to take  people with intro he was like i used to be a dj   i should just turn up with my records get pissed   play some music and [ __ ] off why does this  guy need to take a [ __ ] posse with him obviously the guy who left the comment  was very old that's why he said the word   posse i will explain the role for sean no  i was thinking about this before saying it   which is always the wise thing to do and   i think the best way to sum up sean's role is with  sean in doing his role allows everyone else to   do their own role and nothing else roshan's being  there allows me to focus on being the artist being   the creator and solely doing my job to the best of  my ability it also allows wallace to do his job to   the best of his ability and not do anyone else's  job because wallace doesn't have to worry about   oh has he got permission to be on stage is he  going to be fighting off another camera guy   is he going to be getting moved on is it good  is he going to have an issue recording the audio   for the set so the ultimate thing that roshan's  role does is allows everyone else to do their   roles without having to juggle other things  and then what do you do right before the time   uh right before we set we do our regular checks  do you have your usbs you got your in-ears in   yeah have you got your extender for your for  your inners satisfied yeah but i've got your   extender yeah you've got your extender well  let's have you got batteries in the zoom   have you got batteries in the camera what's the  zoo the zoom is a recorder that we use to record   all sets for every show that we knew if you want  to know which one it is it's called the zoom h6   after that we start making our way to the stage  i will leave them in the wings of the stage the   wings means that just just behind the stage that's  basically it it's just a technical thing for at   least but um put the usbs in check all levels  make everything neutral in the decks that's   just something i just that that's just me i just  make sure everything's in a neutral position for   james to come and do whatever he needs to do on  stage another thing i've had as well you can't let   the creative artists whoever know what's going  on because you're just going to throw them off   deal with it as much as you can without  anything being seen or being aware of   at the end of the show how do you make  sure james is safe when leaving the venue   when it comes to being safe or even  available this all starts from the beginning   i try to get security in place at the venue  for them to be marked out so we can safely   move james either to the green room or to actually  move outside the building or the green room is   where an artist will stay backstage just asking  questions because sometimes we use language yeah   people don't know yeah um it's just a space where  an artist can sit and relax before they start   their show that's what the freedom is yeah would  like to add that every show is different as well   like sometimes i'll be playing until the venue  closes but sometimes the place will stay open   after my set so it's very different if if the club  closes or the the venue closes straight after my   set then the lights come on and then what tends to  happen is i'll hang around for 20 30 minutes wait   till wait till all the real hype i'm only the real  high primer there and now i'll be like right let's   get some photo you love because you're like real  hype there's no manual to tour managing there's no   school hospital management it's very much you  learn on the job or you go out your way and   find a information for yourself so if someone  wanted to become a tour manager and they are   18 years old and you don't really know anyone  what's some advice that you give to them right now   they can act on today like can we do like three  tips for someone who wants to be a tour manager first things first this is what i  live by and i still do it now even as   where i am in my career network network network  have a conversation don't be shy to ask questions   you might get shut down three or four times maybe  10 times present yourself in a very valuable way   and just ask questions i still ask questions to  this day um a lot of people hit me up on instagram   i might not get to it straight away but i still  look at it and i still reply back and try help   as much as i can to guide someone through how to  how to become organized and keep talking right um   i feel that it all starts from yourself how do  you manage yourself how would you conduct your   day-to-day life and how would you translate that  onto multiple people on the team on keeping time   and organization i i'm very much a person that  keeps the calendar schedules these guys always   laugh at me because i've got a tundra in my  head but unreal you need to know the schedule   you actually need to know exactly what you're  doing you should always be two three steps ahead   this is just me but i'll go to  concert and watch you i know i   should be watching the show i literally  don't watch who is who in that area   so i will watch from yeah okay so that person  looks like they're doing that job that must be the   tour manager this person was doing that job i must  be the stage manager this person in this job um   i've always done that from that when i was younger  is that could you give any advice for somebody to   like shadow someone or something like that if  you did wanna have like a full conversation or   anything just hit me up on it on socials  instagram shoot me an email i i always   answer a lot of people that watch me differently  know that i answer the messages so hit me up   if we are in your city maybe yeah  you can come along i have to stress   please be over 18 vote for in certain cities just  over 21 please please i know it sounds mad but   we don't want anyone getting in trouble  but um yeah hit me up on socials um send   me a message send me a dm and i will get to you  i'm not knowing you i will get to your message   somebody give me a tm transition it's probably a 2v thing in it let's go back to the bag i can't even hear it thank you for introducing me like opening my eyes anyway here we go no you got the wrong one here we here we   here we [ __ ] go doing a little  makeup session here for missing um we got the mic ready it's live so i just need  to be careful with anyone here in conversation   um we have five minutes exactly  to show time i'm just back   you can't find me until show time  and yeah it's gonna be a madness oh yes love you oh j [ __ ] james hype [ __ ] james heights  [ __ ] james hype 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um have you got that yet what the domain yeah in  the works yeah um so we just came offstage at that   show did you capture on camera when there's just  all the js up in the crowd multiple times yeah   yeah so yeah that was a crazy crazy crowd seattle  undefeated legit like proper there's so many   stereo shirts um real real hype planned in there  but it wasn't so many it was a scene a series yeah it was it was so legit um i i really  enjoyed it i like playing daytime stuff i   couldn't see the cdjs i knew that was good that's  a [ __ ] thing mate couldn't even see the mixtape   it was because we had like direct sunlight  on the decks which could be really difficult   um but yeah i'm kind of used to it this time  of year you know um yeah i played kind of a   different set because i was taking it  a bit easy to start because it was uh   sunshine daytime you know 4 p.m set time so i  didn't want to start slamming it out i knew i   was on after anna luna as well and i wasn't  super sure what type of stuff she was going   to play so i was like well if i just started with  some sunshine vibes you can't really go wrong with   sunshine vibes in the sunshine that's what i've  been saying so um yeah i think it set on well um   uh yeah not much else to say it was it was a cool  little setup it was like a mini festival yeah it   really was it was a proper yeah i really liked  how the whole thing was out but in terms of the   staging everyone could see you i feel like i feel  good the stage was really nice like this it's hard   to get the stage right for a dj because sometimes  you'll be on a huge stage and you're just a little   dj with four decks you don't need to run around or  any of that stuff so you don't really need a big   stage sometimes and sometimes when they put the  stage in place it's like they almost design the   stage for a rapper or a singer and the dj is just  like at the back and it's really awkward when it's   like that but this stage was designed perfectly  for djs and i think you were at the right   level like in terms of height yes between the  crowd and yourself so you got to see and was   engaged with them yeah yeah yeah connected to  them you were vibing with them yeah you could   make eye contact with the program really actually  like we've done some festivals in the past couple   of weeks where you can't even see the front row  you're gonna be like are you all right you know   so it's that was nice yeah it was yeah how did  you find it from a tour management perspective um there was a lot of technical stuff that was  going on behind the scenes as i've explained   before they start with the sounds that was  projected out to the crowd wasn't loud enough   that happened in the first 10 minutes so i had to  get that turned up um the monitors and valves for   james they didn't have the right facilities to  contact uh the front house which front house is   where the main sound comes from the main mixing  desk i had to run basically around the festival   to the sound desk to tell them  to turn it turn it up and run guy was sleeping he was asleep so yeah  so the man who was in charge of sorting   things out around the stage was asleep  yep okay it's a new one yeah not seen   that before but i can also witness i  saw a man lying down next to the stage   yep i also witnessed this yeah so whoever you are  from seattle really it's not going to visit me   a lot of people paid a lot of money for tickets  to that festival people have traveled people   saved up their money and they've been looking  forward to it and you are there asleep on the   job when you have one job to make it look and  sound good yeah fine so i don't even care who   you are just don't fall asleep on the job  yeah there's a lot of cardio for that one cast oh i i kind of judged how far it was like  i've got this it's half a mile i stole it i   started going i was like i've got battle three  people let's go and it goes up hill as well but um yeah we've got the job done you said it  wasn't right it didn't feel loud so when i first   stepped out i was like okay it doesn't feel loud  but i thought well it must be loud for the people   out there it's just for me it's not very loud and  the monitor stacks they were quite far out so i   was like can we bring them in yeah we brought  the monitors in closer to me got a bit louder   and i was just i'm not feeling the volume of it  and i just thought oh we got to turn the monitors   up but after the set rash said he thought it  wasn't hard enough overall so he had to ask   the guys to turn it up for the people as well so  i don't know what they were doing there maybe they   got sound restrictions on the venue or something  i don't know maybe maybe the mom's asleep well these are the questions as i told man  these are questions i asked i asked is there   a db meaning that decibel has to be a certain how  does the sound have to be a certain level is there   a cut-off point where as loud as it can be these  are actual questions that i asked which i said   before but these are questions i asked when i'm  there um when it comes to like ask liaisons tech   stage managers if i have the time to meet  them in advance and the answers were no   there's only one question that i ever asked and that's who does this and that leads us nicely to the end of this  episode is there anything else we need to   cover onto our management i think we think  we i think we've covered quite quite well   yeah i think we did well all right so from the  briefing room this is james hype i'm russian k   wallace signing out go and  watch my tomorrowland set who does i'm i don't care rich they do i don't care

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