How Tourism Changed My Life: A True Story by Vinicio Paz

okay we are gonna start this today there you go yeah I turned on record I want to welcome everybody thank you so much for coming today this is the first event that not your average American has held live we are super excited to do this I also have to admit I'm a little bit nervous this is the first time I've held a live event but luckily I have venecio by my side and he makes me think anything is possible I have seen him do so many wonderful things since we've known each other um we would love each of you to introduce yourself in the chat I won't get to mentioning everyone who's here but it would be nice for vinicio to see that he has people from all around the world interested in learning more about him and all of the wonderful things that he's doing um I also just want to take a quick moment to introduce my company not your average american.com we have a website where we write about our experiences in South America very particularly in Ecuador we lived there for three years in keto and my husband and I travel back as often as possible we really believe in making strong connections between North and South America um North Americans very often travel to Europe they don't often think of traveling to South America and we just want to make every place in South America more accessible to North Americans I am going to share a poll with you guys today if you would take a quick minute to answer these two questions for us um the first question is how do you know vinicio Paz if you've um met about him heard about him before or you know how how you met him please just give us a clue and we'd love to know how you heard about today's event one of the things that I need to do as a business owner is learn which of our methods of advertising are working and which ones we need to work better on so if you would just take a couple of minutes to do that for me I would really appreciate it yeah let's see we've got Sam visiting from Golden Colorado minda from Montreal Quebec Canada Jackie's left us a nice little note greetings from Ecuador um Marion Porter Salt Spring Island British Columbia this is a great audience Benicio wow how do you feel right now I'm excited I'm excited very excited this is wonderful we're going to give this poll just a couple more minutes there you go okay we've almost got a hundred percent participation uh Toledo Ohio um that's Paul we have Samuel from Golden Colorado who was in Ecuador in 2012. um Sam I moved to Ecuador in 2013 and I know in 10 years so many things have changed you need to go again okay we're gonna go ahead and end this poll and thank you very much um just in case you guys would like to see I'll show you most of you learned about this through Refugio pas de los aves that's probably the follow-up we did on our GoFundMe campaign and 29 percent foreign so that's pretty cool I love this so let's go ahead and get started we're gonna share the screen and vinicio I'm going to introduce you the first time I heard about Benicio Paz was not in person it was actually when I was visiting Refugio Paz de las aves which is the project the ecotourism project run by his um family in mindo Ecuador and I was talking to his father Angel and Angel was very proudly explaining how vinicio was going to be a part of the business and how they couldn't be doing what they were doing without venezio's Health Angel is so proud of his son it is absolutely a wonderful way to have learned about Benicio and when I heard about the opportunity to help Refugio Paz save the family land which we're going to hear a little bit more about during this presentation it was very easy for me to jump in and say please let me help with this vinicio has been a joy to work with we've partnered on several things I'm working with them now as a business coach and I tell you every day I speak with venicio I feel like I can do so much more so thank you you very much vinicio we're really looking forward to learning how tourism changed your life and thank you for the introduction to introduce me yes but I'm gonna do my best okay first of all I want to say thank you everyone to you know to see this presentation and I am gonna be open with my heart and open to everyone that uh how how important and how tourism changed my life and um so I think so I'm going to start this presentation my name is Benicio pass and I was born in a very little town if you can see the photo is very Magic Town it is negalito so this this is a very small town which is in the middle of the Cloud Forest Area it's just two hours from the main city from Quito and in this little town we have uh some some facilities as very important like you know the the educate the high schools and and primary school but the thing is to Once born in this area where a lot of you know um humble people can live around and people who trying to you know to survive in in these little little towns I am so grateful with to be part of this you know to be growing this area I learned a lot of from here and this is me when I was little kid so I was a a a crazy dreamer that I I was looking usually when I was you know in in a color place or to play soccer is very important and I one of my dreams was to be called as a Maradona I remember but I am alone so you might you might ask him what is ballon but balloon in in Spanish means there's a little ball with uh is is a ball and maintained with green plantain and and I I always trying to search myself why they call me bolon I I did my research and I talked to the best one of the the the my dad's best friend and I asked why do you call me bolon and then I ends that they say because when you were kid you you were like a little dumpling and I say really so it was it was so funny that's why they call me bolon but I would say if you want to visit Ecuador and you want me to visit me and then you asked for my name you might don't you know you might don't have any good answers because everyone's know me as Abalone so but when when you are you know kid you have some dreams and one of my best friend was to be able to study and just to have some opportunities and and I I did I went to I was very lucky that I I you know I I uh I assist to my my elementary school and then I went to my uh I would say High School which is um in the middle of the cloud forest I just love it this kind of you know when when I was studying here I was always trying to be more getting into the protective conservation time that's why in my high school I get like a I would say degree for for uh tourism and not many people in in Ecuador can study not many people because so the the education in Ecuador the the formal education in Ecuador there is free yes but there's so many things that you have to be able to you know to to have together like Transportation like food like accommodation that kind of stuff and so many so some people can make it happen and and then you know I I went to my high school and I was trying to grow in and then I went to the university which I get my my degree in in tourism and an Environmental Conservation and this this was it this was my dream to have a degree in in Ecuador because my dad and my mom they always work so hard because they wanted to give a good opportunity and I feel like they did Denise I wanted to ask you a question at this point in time in your community how many people do you know who got a university education so I will say there is a very few people of in in in in special when when we are in this little areas where we are or these little towns because the universities in Ecuador there are in in the cities in the main cities like Quito Cuenca and some other places or bigger cities so if you are living in in in in this case in my case my dad he could afford to pay me a rent in Quito to give me some money for transportation and to be able to you know to assist to my classes so that's why for for many other people is very very difficult to get into the university they are public for sure but believe it or not if people from the little towns if they really have a desire to go to study but how they're going to go there they need to pay the rent they need to pay the food they need to pay transportation and they need to pay for copies for all that kind of stuff so that's why it makes so hard for some people who has low incomes in Ecuador okay so let's go on yeah but let's let's see this is this is my my heroes so my my dad and my mom they are they work all life so hard they you can believe it my mom background my dad background so they they work so hard my dad was a um uh a lumberjacker lumberjack uh and Lumberjack so he was he was working in this job for many years since he was 15 or 16 years old imagine he was you know he was cutting the trees and making wood for one week they this I didn't have that for one week and I didn't have Mom for one week because they go so far in the deep forest and they make a living there so imagine they were like one week and the way that they were you know supporting themselves as my dad he was killing some animals and then that kind of stuff and then because we we have a little a little incomes coming with that activity my mom she was a housekeeper so I remember that I also to help my family I was selling candies in the buses I was sending selling candies in in little areas where there's a crow of people selling things you know to make some money for me for my for my dad and for my mom that's why they work so hard for for for give me a good opportunities so if you know in the beginning they were they were working in this uh in you know Korean trades and that kind of stuff and they because it was so low they moved to the Agriculture and they moved to planning some tree Tomatoes as as you can see in the photos so he is frying the the chemicals because this is some this is one of the biggest problem in in my in in my area because I know that the most important to growing tree tomatoes to growing blackberries to Growing uh passion fruit to Growing anything any product the best areas as the primary Forest because we think that is the more richest nutrition nutrition that these areas has you know has to be able to to produce these three Tomatoes but it was so hard now my my dad he has some problems since he was using a lot of chemicals so fortunately yeah it does change and I I will not say I never knew that my dad and my mom they didn't want it any day any any day I don't I don't remember any day and my dad wasn't you know wanted to you know give a better a better life he always always always was working I never know any day that they didn't work and trying to give me a better life and as you can see this photo this is this is how Ecuador is right what do you think Angie yeah I think a lot of the Americans or a lot of the people in this audience aren't going to understand what they're looking at we've got your dad and your mom is behind him on a donkey and they've got a big old um container a canister on the side I know from living in Ecuador what's going on but I think it's hard for Americans to understand that they're actually carrying milk to Market am I right yeah yeah so what happened is the farm where we where we were working in that time it it was one hour one-way walk and one hour one way back so when I was kid I have to walk all the way that down to get to the bus and go to the school so imagine every day that's why I think so I'm little you know but this is this is this is when I was you know in my school I was working one hour together and you know with the mule that we are using too it's like a or or or BMW it was your BMW I get it yeah it was like having a little motorcycle on legs yeah so what happened what changed so this is the This Is Something Magic happen in my life in my family life so in 2005 science we my dad started working everything you know Korean trades agriculture farming in general in 2005 something happened my dad he just started with a new idea and in this new idea was to create a tourism as a new alternative to you know to survive and and believe it or not he create their fojo puzzle a service in this photo this is one of the you know first photos that you know some guests give us and I am I am I am in the back trying writing I think I was writing that email or something and and I was involved in the beginning so my mom my aunt my dad and my cousins right now they are involved in the tourism too so we are keeping this tourism now I I would like to address something in here it says the entrance fee was ten dollars Yeah you sort of explain what ten dollars a day event this is this this this is in 2007 this photo we started in 2005. okay so when

we start the business when my dad started open the first time we were charging five dollar per person and five dollars it was one day work the full day work for my dad can be fumigation can be and any anything it's five five four dollars a day and and then when the first guest came I remember he paid five dollars for the entry and ten dollars for the tip and they said you know it was so so much very um it was something very unique for us because imagine this family a small family we just you know we just knew some people around us and then some some people from all over the world came and they said wow what's Happening Here Yeah so it was amazing you know you were telling me your mom used to work for about four dollars a day cleaning houses and she was working off in more than eight hours a day and then now they open the property to show bird watchers the birds on the property and you're charging five to ten dollars per person per person and it it it changed the quality of life for your entire family yeah but but Angie this believe or not it is something like when you start when you start you want to do the best for everything you know because my family we were very excited for and we didn't know how much you charge we don't know anything anything so with people like you guys they came and they they would be able to say you know what they start doing this and they and then we started like okay hold on just a second I'm gonna ask I've I'm looking to see we've got so many people on somebody's not muted I think yeah I need somebody to mute there you go there we go I think we're better okie doke sorry about that venicio no no problem so yeah so this is this is a magic photo everything starts from here the tourism so let's see so so let me let me let me talk about this the the refugeot so for many many of the audience they know what is who what's the Refugio but Refugio let's start with with the idea of my dad the angel pass so he started with varying a vague idea trying to communicate with this bird which is the Giant and Pita this is in pitas we were talking about is one of the rarest bird and also in danger and Extinction and and it was so difficult to see for bird watchers and and and I and believe or not my dad he was following this bird in the forest trying to make friends with them and finally he did it and that's why this bird is very very uh important for or Refugio uh the first time that that we saw the Giant and pita it was when everything became a really Refugio puzzle azalez because a lot of people went and see that that that that bird and this is the team I will start from the left it's my mom Maria florsita and then to the right is my dad Angel pass my uncle Rodrigo and to the right dianita so they start working from 2005 when this in this Refugio and now look at the change you know you can see the photo look at the change so that's why I feel like for humble people for people who didn't know nothing about tourism they they couldn't change and they are changing lives too that's why we're focus is very important for for for for for many places so I I want to take a moment to read this for you for for our audience um just recently we're going to get onto the campaign but this um conservation biologist who had visited Refugio Paz de las saves before had this to say about the work the dedication and passion of Angel and Rodrigo is palpable when you meet them and that is perhaps the most important element of this project the power of ecuadorians to protect their own land for future Generations people and Wildlife what did that mean when you heard that venicio when when Becca said this about your dad and your uncle so this is the these these this was in the in the very tough time so the refocalypse started this you know this I will say business in 2005 in my grandmother Farm and for many years many years we were working in this land trying to protect the rest of the forest because most of half of the of of the farm was coded for to put some grass and to raise some cows so for my family for my dad and my and my uncle to be able to protect we were we have a lot of problems with my nine uncles I have nine ankles and I have more than 90 uh close relatives in causing sounds every 90. so to be able to protect this area to say don't we we don't want to code we can keep the business showing people the bird and and we protect this but in this time my grandmother passed three years ago like three to two years ago she passed so and then the the farm it was transferred to nine uncles and that's was that that was where it was so so difficult for us and I decided to buy the land and I decided to create um these very very successful fundraising that you most of your the people who are here help us and we achieved the goals in just three months because I was very short period of time that my ankles they give me to get you know to be able to buy the land and we did it and this is the campaign that I run with Angie Angie is one of the the who helped a lot with this campaign and with without her I think so it was also you know we maybe we couldn't make it I don't know but I don't know about that but it was a great time we had I mean it was nerve-wracking but we also had a great time developing the story I'm gonna put a link in the um for people if they would like to read more about the story um in a little bit here about what happened with Refugio Paws and um yeah it was it was exciting Benicio and I just took this screenshot two days ago people are still donating to the campaign that that's something very very unique for us and also my dad and my mom my family was so so much um you know I would say we didn't believe it when we when we saw that it was a just a dream and we get it and so because we be able to achieve the goal we buy the land and now for everyone and I'm so happy to tell this because so many people so many people help us as a regular person you know I did the campaign and it was as an under Benicio pass but they trust me and they trust my family business and they donate money and we buy the land now now the Big Goal that we are doing is we put it as a foundation so we create the foundation puzzle azabes why because we want to protect the birds we want to protect the land forever because so many people also asking you know what's going to happen if I did of my dad or somebody you know so right now this land is going to be protected forever and we have one of four projects that we are we're gonna work in in this is to reforestation the rest of the land to protect the primary Forest to protect them more than 186 species of bird that you can see in this place and we are very commitment to help people and give more opportunities for the I am I don't know in English because uh scholarships scholarships to help them and they can you know take more opportunities to to in in their life so this is that's why we create this Foundation would you tell me uh tell us a little bit about the little girl in the photo yeah so I took this photo in in the refocus this is a place in uh and this the so my idea is these little kids these little kids can help a lot they they this girl is my my my cousin and she loves her right now look at how she's looking there and she loved the birds so what happened is we are going to protect this for new generations because new generations they want to see this and that's why I took this photo and the left there the little bird is too converted so what what's your cousin's name Amy Amy and what kind of education are you hoping for for Amy so she because you know we are involved in in this kind of uh tourism so I think so she is be she she's gonna go to the to primary and high school and get some degrees um maybe biology I don't know she's gonna decide in this case but but I will say because we are so lucky and grateful with the tourism she we she she will do it you know maybe in in the past maybe no right she's going to have more opportunity for sure so that's why for me I know that tourism can help young people I think so this is this is this is my photo this is a photo of a very great photographer bill gonzansky um he took this photo when when we start the business and I am in the middle and I don't know if why but you can see me there in the middle is for me is like a like I don't know if it's correct Legacy or something that I have to do this I have to do this because I want none of them my brother is the one that I will say from the left to the right my my two cousins they they uh have a limitation to get to the study right now but but we are we are helping them as a refugeot and my cousin to the right he right now he is a tour guy in Refugio puzzles so we are helping them that they can learn and they can be also have more opportunities and my brother he is in the University he he's the only one he who is going to the university you know and Andy also he is going to the university but he's doing a tour guide for birding too so more opportunities you know so before we head to the next slide I want to give a little bit of context you're able to help your family a certain amount by working with Refugio Paz and flintacion Paz but you explained to me not long ago that your ability to earn money is greatly increased here in the United States which is where you're living right now and that you can earn more money in the U.S and send it home and help the business more from the United States is that right yeah that that's that's one of the dreams that we were talking about and um I have I have my my goals and one of my goals is to keep the Refugio say to keep the Refuge running the business because it's how my dad and my family is supporting themselves and how they are supporting my my other family too so and the other the other goal that I am I I I really want to do is to create a foundation you know to grow in the foundation and in my side because I am right now living in U.S in a beautiful country and when I one of my dream is I want to travel around us and do some Wildlife photography this is a dream and and that's why right now I am making a living here so I started selling art I asked I started selling and this is by the way this this photos is my first photo that I sell in this art show and you can see my face so happy so happy so for me there's a three goals that I want to achieve and I want to do it with my heart and very very good and commitment to do it you know I am very committed to doing this um I this is this is part of of who has been is right now and I'm gonna do a lot of things too I think this is wonderful I I want to point out to this um fenicio just sold this first image just before Christmas last year in 2022 this was a huge um it was a huge event for him in Ecuador photography is appreciated but not in the same way it is in the United States and for venicio to be able to sell his beautiful photography has been life-changing in so many ways and one of the things we're here to ask all of you today all of you who are listening is to not only promote the work of Refugio Paz and the work of denisio's family but to consider finding ways to help finisio with his own business with his photography business as well she couldn't be here where he is today without tourism in Ecuador but it's not just about his father's project it's about where Venecia wants to go as well and how that intersects with what his family has done and how that has helped him grow as an entrepreneur and as a photographer um Venezia do you think we should open up for questions sure sure absolutely I am yeah I can do it would anybody um we can I'm going to stop the share for right now that way if anybody would just like to um unmute and ask a question directly they can we're a small enough group for that today and maybe while people are thinking I will ask the first question when did you get your first camera Venezia um this is a good question so I started I started doing the photography in 2013-14 so when I start working and making some money I buy I bought my first camera in 2014 and I was playing playing a little bit with a very small land and and my first photo was the challenge challenge was the onion of The Rock that was the one that I was trying to take so so bad and then I I I remember I built um with a lot of must I put it in myself and I was hiding in the leg because my land was so close and was so dark and I say okay no I need to take the photo and I took but it was it was my first photo I think that's a wonderful story John John has a question for you John would you like to ask Venice or something yeah thanks very much Angie um I I'm trying to remember which year I went to uh Refugio I I think it was very soon after you started probably 2006 or seven uh and it was a wonderful wonderful day in my life that's uh seeing uh angel with the uh ant pitchers and seeing Andy and of The Rock and trogans and lots of other wonderful birds and I'm very moved by being able to be here today and hear what's what's happened uh since then and uh it's a terrific terrific story but you are in control of only a tiny proportion of uh Ecuador's cloud forest can you tell us a little bit about how conservation is going in the rest of the Ecuadorian cloud forest please sure sure absolutely so right now the the the conservation is a big uh a big um step right now in in this time because there's a lot of uh there's a one big foundation the the hokotoko they are you know they are doing great jobs and we have different other uh areas that they are you know they are putting us a social Bosque or they're protecting these these places but I will say I will talk about the Northwest in general like everywhere the the um you know the buildings that they're trying to build some some houses new houses signs they covered happen there's some some unstable things but the good thing is there is a lot of places small places uh around the area that they are learning from from us from from people who are doing tourism and they are you know they are taking the tourism as a new alternative so if there is just three three new places that they are doing the same activity that has the same thing they they just copy us and and they have new opportunities so that's why we're so happy we're doing this as you know we're talking about how they can make at this and also they have a new tourist coming so they protect the area and instead to cut the trees and build you know build building but it's going good right now terrific thank you thank you had another question here let me you find this we had um Mark who's asking can you speak a little more on how Angel first started working with Aunt Peters and gained their trust yeah so like I told you my dad he started doing uh you know trying to make a living uh from different activities and and sometimes we didn't have enough food and then he was a hunter too he was killing some deer that kind of stuff because they were so in the deep forest could increase and try to make a living so and I I what he did is he started following the bird and the taking the same same technique that he does to hunting so he get this technique to follow the birds in the forest but this is a good very quickly history is so my dad when he started training the npita he didn't know how important was his birth he didn't know so there were a Foothill it started just because we want us we want to show the onion of the wrong leg that's why we start the the whole Trail day and Peter was later so a lot of people came to see the of The Rock and then when my dad he was following the forest and then he showed then Peter the giant Pita is when the when we were famous we're in magazine we are in National Geographic to visit many many in many many you know many books and and so many news and everything you know but it was for the giant bit that he did something amazing no one can do it now they are doing now the idea my my dad idea now they replicate in they what they do in in Colombia they are doing in in Costa Rica I think so and Brazil and Ecuador in in Asia too I sold I I somebody came to there and said hey you know I want to visit that Uncle because I do I'm doing the same with the pitas so it now is all over we have another question for you venicio from Paul Paul would you go ahead um I think I met you when you were little um I used to work in Bella Vista cloud forest and he has been so great to see the project that I remember I think I went when I went they were not they were like Trails but you know like it was like very basic um I was one on the first one I remember when you that came to Bella Vista with the of the rock photo like a very bad photo obviously but we recognized you know and then he also um you know we like started looking at the book he was like oh we have this one and this one he started talking about them Peter so I was like I just want to congratulate you like like where did you live in the U.S I live in Chicago um obviously I've done a lot of other things since then I used to also be a guy named by Avista but it's just like really awesome to see and that's why when I saw this this event I was like oh I want to like just say hi to vinisha because you were little you were a boy you know that was like so long ago 2005 I think when you thought came with the black person he delivered blackberries too to be a Vista and I was like you know it's like so great to see this transformation of somebody who's like doing other things and it now became this like it's like a it's like a flag for Ecuador conservation and like somebody who like did something very different with the forest and now it's like one of the most important figures in conservation in the cloud forests in headquarters so it's like just want to say congratulations then you know thank you awesome to see you in like speak English and all of that just like remember that little boy yeah it's amazing I mean you you were almost the first person who visited us so imagine that uh and I I don't even know how to say my name in English I yeah I think I I was I could say most likely I was one of the first guys to take the first tourists there with with uh with Richard Parson from the Richard person is is the owner of beja Vista California and he he brought the first tourist in our place and he is her that he helped us to start yeah absolutely that was with me yeah we went again there you go congratulations I am living in in Florida in Naples Florida right now okay cool yeah I live in Chicago I work at the Field museum happy to contact you and connect you with some great scientists here in the field museum in Chicago thank you I really appreciate it thank you that's cool thank you very much this is wonderful because it shows the full circle I love I love this full circle idea and what I would like to just point attention to is the idea of the blackberries I don't think a lot of people have heard this story but when Angel Paz first got the idea to start bird watching on his property it had nothing to do with bird watching he was selling blackberries to the Bay of Easter Reserve he was going on a motorcycle along the back roads all the way over to bayavista and selling blackberries so the tourists could have Hugo de Mora blackberry juice for breakfast in the mornings or with their lunch and he saw the tourists and said wow what's going on and Richard was able to help him see possibilities and um yeah what a thank you so much pal for for um thank you for chiming in thank you and and and and and you know it was the beginning just the clock of The Rock just a Glock of The Rock and then and then at the end of the day we have five species of antitas for everyone five species very the only only place in in the planet five species of antitas they can see it plus obsolete plus right now there is uh there is so my dad is so is unbelievable now you know what he's he's feeding an another Rare Bird which is um Rufus breasted and trash and Immaculate Amber too so he has everything so it's just a a gift I want to translate this a little bit too for the non-bird Watchers um you don't have to be a bird watcher to enjoy visiting the cloud forest of Ecuador you don't have to be a bird watcher to go stay at Refugio Paz the experience is amazing I am a casual bird watcher and it is it is an exciting place to be um and the fact that Venecia was able to hone his photography because of the photographers who visited Refugio Paws and it sparked all of these ideas is absolutely an amazing connection do we have any last questions from anybody we have just a couple more minutes before we end I am going to post a link in the chat I posted already a few links to viniciopaza's website to his Instagram and his Facebook page but I also the last one I'm putting in is a survey for the event if you have any suggestions for vinicio about where he might sell his Photography in the United States about galleries that might be open to having a relationship with him about art fairs that have a very particular Wildlife Focus we would love to hear about them this is part of why we're doing this event is we want to make it easier for vinicio to succeed in everything that he's doing because when vinicio succeeds Rufus de los aves succeeds it is a family Enterprise and they they work all together so we have one last question from Jackie um Jackie go ahead and ask away uh hello Angie and Benicia and everyone thank you so much for organizing this this information this meeting it's wonderful more than one question I just want to say thank you and thank you to vinicio and to Angie also to inspiring for inspiring to us as Ecuadorian woman who loves Ecuador who loves the diversity the tourism and all and especially to I really love the words it's really motivating and inspiring to see how we could get when we are together and in especially when we could uh just to show to the rest of the of the people or the war it doesn't matter if you are interested or not in a in in some projects a specific projects but for sure you are going to be pro-life so this is one project that I really love because this is a very beautiful example of how a family could would change your mind or could change of a project of life with one person and to move feelings around the world especially as a on the beginning with their own family so I want just to say thank you so much you're inspiring to me uh every day when I arrive to my office and I see to the right side on the wall there is a very nice picture from the refugeot that when I arrived to to work to this Enterprise it was there so I when I arrived there and I saw that I was a really feeling blessed so thank you so much for everything thank you thank you and thank you Jackie that's my photo for sure [Laughter] for sure phenicia would you like to have a few last words before we close out uh I just want to say thank you everyone and I I have I have uh like I will say like at there for for for nature I was born in this beautiful place in this beautiful forest and and I am so grateful for everyone if everyone who help us for you know for achieve the goal for for for for for help us to protect the forest and for protect my family I am so so grateful with that and I'm gonna keep working so hard to protect my family and and the rest of the forest that that we have right now and and just that you know I I apologize for any English and all that some problems there but um but thank you thank you for for enjoy uh I am very open if you want some information you know if you want to travel Ecuador you're welcome to come to my my family and something that I will add this is anybody who came to my place is part of the family is not just we're not like business we are a family you come up with us and you will feel or a worm as a family and and thank you thank you very much thank you very much and I'm gonna keep going and yeah thank you so much Benicio especially because you spoke from the heart when we speak from the heart it doesn't matter what language what words it comes across and it's very clear that you love your family that you love your country um and that you love what you're doing now and we really appreciate you being so vulnerable and sharing this story with us um thank you very much to the rest of you we're so happy you were able to join us today I will be putting this recording online so that if you would like to share it with other people you'll be free to do so but we really appreciate you attending this event live it's so much easier to talk to a real audience with real people and you made that happen today thank you so much um we will be in touch have a great rest of your day and have a wonderful weekend thank you I thank you thank you very much be safe thank you thank you

2023-01-30 04:02

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