COFFEE WITH OLA - Björn Gelotte of In Flames
what's up everyone welcome to coffee with Ola today with Bjorn galot of In Flames how are you doing I am good got my morning coffee and uh you got a nuka Cola cup as well absolutely I couldn't resist when I saw it I'm a huge fan of the gaming franchise what okay quick first question what's your favorite Bethesda game in this Skyrim oh this is a really tough one they uh I'm super excited by the new one uh Starfield uh but obviously Skyrim is one of them I love the fantasy genre but Fallout is it 304 yeah um it's incredible it's one of those games you can actually even though you played through it you can play through it again yes because the storyline is so good the world is so nice so all I do is everything they've done is really really cool so yeah I'm excited for did you play any of the Earl this is getting really nerdy really quick I'm sorry but did you play any of the 90s Elder Scrolls games um I did but I wasn't really that into it back then it's not until I'd say when World of Warcraft came okay and Oblivion and the Morrowind yeah but I kind of like the all the 3D games weren't that good back then no you know so there was other games that sort of got my focus uh but later on after the World of Warcraft started um then I got more into the fantasy gaming again so and that's when you know all the Skyrims the later on the Ragnarok it's the new one yeah whatever it's called the god of war and all that stuff it's like yeah but yeah I'm I'm a gaming nerd so you're it's a God of War are you on Playstation then or the PC so I'm a bit frustrated about that gaming series they only released one God of War yeah a really good one on PC and I can't really handle the console okay since I usually do the shooting games and stuff you don't bring a PlayStation no laptop nowadays exactly or we just getting all the commercials for all the new brands here with the steam deck oh yeah I'm super excited I haven't got it yet but so yeah all right so okay so getting back on track very nice to have you here it's actually the first time we met incredible yeah which is weird uh because I mean it's in Sweden Sweden is small the middle Industries Sweden it's even smaller yeah so it's I've seen you play a bunch of times okay and I've been in an interesting way yeah okay back actually first time in um uh 1999 clubben you play with inflames and dark Tranquility yeah and uh Cry Havoc I think so um back at the time where it was at the other side it was like a long wide stage it was really weird yeah and you had the balcony yeah I thought it was cooler I saw Slipknot there and you came nice yeah it was really nice it was really good but I I guess security and safety issues it kind of forced them to change it's the same building as the arena yes yes the bottom floor we played that in now once and right before well like an hour before we played Tenacious D was playing clippings oh so everybody just went down there it was really after party it was kind of at the same time so we managed to see some of that okay cool and then play a show that was really really cool awesome so have you um obviously you released that album just as the pandemic start dead yeah and then you were supposed to go tour for this album and if I just want to uh if Flames for me has always been the the absolute like grinding touring band like you've been touring a lot yeah and uh I mean with the albums you can see this is the 14th album you're releasing now on in February four gone but uh that must be a real shock the whole pandemic yeah yeah it's it's literally what I like the most of about being in a band and being in this band in particular because it's so fun to play you know it's like it just um it's being on stage with these dudes and and playing the music and it's been throughout the years the same it's always the live part that I love the most so of course I want to do that as much as possible yeah um so recording and writing and all that stuff is mainly a means to an end for me um in order to be to get you our touring exactly so when the pandemic hit um it was really weird for the first time in so many years we actually had a plan you know like a touring plan a schedule to tour the world it was the US it was Asia it was Europe it was festivals it was like basically a year and a half planned and then basically we do the start the first leg uh European run or whatever it was um no it was we're going to Asia or whatever we actually came to New Zealand and that's when the pandemic hit like properly they started shutting down so we got cut off fairly early on the touring cycle um and since nobody knew how long this is going to last for we get we said in the beginning that well it's probably not going to be over in three months so let's give it a year and the year is you can see it you can grasp a year yeah but anything beyond that is really tough because a lot of things change obviously like a lot of venues disappeared um because of no there was no business in them so they turned them into offices and a lot of local promoters disappeared a lot of the crew the people in the industry disappeared a lot of the logistics disappeared all the buses and everything so and you could see that disappearing and all our agents like booking agents and stuff they were just seeing their whole Playfield disappear basically all the all the contacts and everything so we were kind of frustrated and I felt utterly useless yeah for the first couple of months I'm not hanging out with friends not being on stage not even rehearsing not doing anything we have three members in the U.S so we couldn't really hang out either I saw Anders physically once during the pandemic and it's really not inspiring you know so it got cut off um and um I yeah felt useless I didn't write anything or even think in any musical direction whatsoever but slowly we could see other bands after a year and a half you could see other bands doing this in that trip they did one show and like actual shows not the live streams you know and that gives you hope and and we started seeing traveling happening and yeah that was sort of the light in the tunnel that triggered us to let's do another record you know let's do a record it's it's not going to be out for a while anyway so you can still if touring is permitted then we can actually continue from on either mask but it luckily now touring has really picked up and we what was supposed to be a really soft year this year has turned into a very busy year we did the record early this year um a month and a half and then we went straight into a tour in the UK then we did two months in the US with Megadeth lab of God and Trivium yeah that was did a bunch of festivals that we didn't really plan on doing and then we did two months in the US right before this European run yeah which is all the way up until Christmas so the year has been super packed yeah even though we didn't plan it so um you know I'm happy as a pig and are we back is it back to normal do you feel no no what is the difference I think the difference now is that everybody is out yeah so the the the traffic is immense which is if you from one point of view it's absolutely awesome yeah you know as an audience it's it's good to have the options yes but I think it's also really frustrating because there's so many bands and packages you want to see yeah and you only have so much money right yeah and then from a logistic point of view it's really difficult touring buses and all that stuff and that's something that just recently I didn't even think about it but this is you have to be super you have to be almost a year in advance to get touring buses mashuga came over to the us we did we played with Meshuggah in the US and they came to the US and they didn't have any buses they were promised buses and they simply couldn't find any so the first I don't know a couple of weeks they had to go buy all sorts of other means instead which is just super frustrating especially you know you just want to just want to sleep in the bunk and then you just want to sleep and then have a great show you know and this is way more difficult if you Uber it or oh it just logistical nightmares but I think that's the main difference people are extremely happy that the shows are there and as I said I'm as happy as it Pig and whatever to be able to be on stage you know so yeah and uh the new album foregone I've been listening a little bit to it and uh I've also I see that people are saying that it inflames back to form which what do you think about that saying because for me I'm listening to it and it sounds like a a really good influence album but at the same time people are like oh yeah I mean I understand I think it's because of the passion of the audience but they want to be like oh yeah this is like in Flames coming back to what how do you feel I mean for you it's just another album right yeah it's obviously the best one we ever did but that's just how it and it's supposed to be that way yeah you know but but this is all you have to remember and I think most people know just they don't think about it when they say stuff like that but this is all a matter of taste yeah I think every album that we've done we've done we put in the hours we put it we have invested in the album we've done the absolute best that we can and to our liking that that's all it is and at that time at that time and who you are at that time and that's just how it works because we need to be happy with what we pay we're not a cover band and we're not a I don't know it's we're not a radio band we don't we make the music for us because we know if we like it we can actually be on stage and enjoy it you know and as I said before it's like this is the most the most fun I ever had yeah is being on stage yeah so I need to like it uh and we all need to like it so having that um mindset do music that we like we kind of I wouldn't say bulletproof we're kind of we don't really care yeah what people say but if one thing that is important is that people actually in one way or the other care yes because if nobody had any opinion whatsoever or couldn't give a about it then it would probably be more frustrating yeah I think it's because I mean people want to have strong opinions nowadays it's very black and about everything about everybody's entitled today but I also think that it's healthy because it is showing a passion an incredible passion for the music and the genres and you know there's gatekeeping but at the same time you know why not I mean it's I think it's very important it shows just the that metal is so strong and alive still and very passionate audience I think when it comes to like attacks on other people and that's why I don't get it it's like I get it if people are not happy with the record you know but if somebody posts that I really do like this record or I like that one song and then somebody else just for the sake of picking a fight attacks that guy yes I'm fine with it I already like we write it we record it and master it they press it or whatever they do and it's not ours anymore you know we've done exactly what we wanted to do yeah after that it's just a matter of taste yeah and uh so that's fine but people get picked on and it's a really rough environment at times it's toxic is a good word so I don't read any of it yeah I don't I don't go to any forums I don't read any of like music Outlets or anything because I am so tired of the comments yeah and it's it's a bad thing because a lot of times that's the only way to find out about certain tours and stuff but I simply don't go there because of that toxic environment the thing is that you're gonna see the people actually pay the ticket to go and see you yes and support that is the actual real like if they don't like a song you will see it yeah you feel right there right and usually you try to work harder and get everybody to be in the same you know frame of mind when you're at a concept the whole point where the concert is that you I need that energy of course and hopefully we can deliver something like a little respite from from the ordinary day whatever you can have exactly so it's uh that that's the real place where I think that's what matters internet doesn't you know the opinions there of course yeah and they can't you know because if everybody has just like right yeah but it has one opinion about it and you can't please them all and we never aim to do that and a lot of times the enthused that we do is exactly talking about this stuff when we should talk about music exactly you know so focus is really weird and we're just one of those bands I guess that pisses off a few and people love you know it's I I don't think there are any bands that are spared from this no at all so you know that's it's just it shows passion but it also shows uh people being idiots you know and yeah you get high people have people have their platform now where they can raise their voice that's the thing they didn't have absolutely true yeah so a lot of idiots they come and and you know they make up the world and they make it seem like they're a big a better you can actually matters what they say yeah but and that's the problem because the most same people they probably won't even comment they're just like they're just gonna enjoy the album go watch your show and that is the majority of people obviously exactly exactly so um also with this I saw a video the other day that Chris is uh I I just saw it today yeah he posted something and then he said I I it was like I am a member of a place so like maybe people didn't think that he he was just a touring member or something like that but he is that's how he he helped us out when Nicholas couldn't do a tour yes um so and we were like the crew was already in the U.S waiting to start the tour and we were on our way over basically for a couple of days of rehearsals before the tour and and he couldn't do it and obviously I mean he needed to stay home and um and we were frustrated we didn't know holy what are we supposed to do yeah it's just a couple of days and Chris's name came up out of the ones that were available and we've known I've known Chris for 20 years when he was in Jack Panther we toured together and then it was with Nevermore we toured a lot with back in the day and make it up and then Mega that later so which we didn't really hang out much at that time because they were fairly busy too but after when his name popped up and well musically and and skill wise is is way above yeah you know so that's not an issue yeah and he's always been a super nice nice guy very nice guy yeah extremely humble but extremely good at what he does yes very knowledgeable and he's don't tell him that he's like one of my heroes and he's like it's like having my guitar mentor on tour right kind of crazy are you showing you licks or like things no I ask him what I can ask him whatever yeah and maybe he can do it right off the top of his head next day though I'm going to sit warm up and just play for the fun of it he's got it all down yeah like it's incredible so I'm very very happy that's awesome you see uh so is he contributing anything to the songwriting or is it more like solos and leads and he didn't contribute anything yet on the song right yeah but it's we have this way of working Anderson I just like the flow of it yeah the writing session slowly turning into a recording session so we ride all the way to the ends I'm very you're listening to the production in the production stage everything needs to come everything yeah exactly the arrangements and everything because you never know I we usually um I program all the drums in the beginning just to have like a I arrange everything with guitar space and drums and hopefully we can put some vocals on there on every little piece in the song and you try to arrange and but that means a lot of moving around pieces right so I we always save the drums to last because you never know what you're going to change and you want that organic flow to the drums later on and it's really hard to do that editing all that around so it might be backwards for us it works but that means also that I'm working on everything all the way up until the end yeah or we're working on everything all the way up until the end and so everything was pretty much done but I asked him early on like if he wanted to do a couple of solos because not only they would be awesome yeah they will offload me like offset some of that I don't need to do all of it and I'm not a shredder I'm not a like like a lead guitar player I do Melodies and I can do some of it but that's not where I am you know so and he is one absolutely one of those guys right so that was really I think he seemed very happy about doing it and two days later he came in I gave him a couple of parts that I thought that maybe he could do something with and he came back and he knocked it out of the Ballpark and it just ridiculously good yeah and we were just sitting laughing I was recording him and I was like you sure you want to do it again it's happening right there yeah he's sitting there playing I'm just sitting there watching and laughing while he was doing that and this is kind of the same thing with Bryson with Tanner too because they're like you have in your head you have the idea you programmed it it's like yep stick to pretty much this but you do your thing yeah and then they start playing it's like whatever I said before just forget that just do exactly what you're doing now they're so good at what they do so it's a pleasure doing that I don't like the recording process in general but these things are awesome yeah yeah I mean because it probably it takes your music that you already have formed an idea yeah you probably listen to these ideas like till they're boring as hell yeah and then they breed new life into it exactly and that's that's exactly what happened so even though they didn't write anything they absolutely uh had a big part of the stuff oh yeah yeah for sure so yeah and that's it's exciting for the future too you know and this is the first album we do as this lineup together and we played a lot of shows together and I honestly we've never sounded better than we do no it's a very good sounding album well he produced it yeah Joe Rickard our old drummer okay wow I'm super excited yeah I really I love the guitar stuff do you have any idea like is it uh no I know what I I know I know what I recorded with but I'm not sure what what happened after that that's usually how it is nowadays people don't actually know what's being used because it could be plug-ins it could be it could be re-emptive or whatever really it's most likely real but it sounded awesome when we recorded obviously you want that responsive like the sound that you feel comfortable with record is not necessarily the sound that's going to sound the best later no but so for recording I used the it's called a wizard okay A lot of times I use the 5150 yeah especially the first one they released brilliant the block letters yeah I mean you couldn't play clean this sound to save your life but it's like it's very good for rhythm uh guitars and it as for one part we also used some orange to get okay grittiness yeah the low end um but so but usually it's like the wizard which is more of a martial fish yeah um together with a 5150 works really well but after that I have no clue what happened and I kind of like that because in my head it's still Lewis I mean it doesn't matter no it doesn't matter the end product is what matters absolutely and then obviously it's up to our sound guy when we play Live to try to make that work so so trying to segue into their the new albums out in February run away it's called foregone but segwaying our way into the live things what are you guys using live I saw a gear video but please tell us a little bit more I hope I was hoping you knew that because I don't know it's better if you tell them yeah so I'm not sure what the model is called but there's a there's a prototype Marshall lamp that for years ago I can't even remember how many years ago I went to London uh and this head lead designer was working on an app and I got to try it early on and had some few pointers I know it's not going to be a signature or something but I got to try it early yeah and and a little bit of the ideas that I had the feedback that I had was actually put into it but then he quit and whoever was the new lead designer was not interested in working on old stuff he wanted to do his new stuff so production stopped there and they had all the parts for it as far as I understand it for many of these amps but they were not really built okay so I managed to get my hands on a bunch of those so that prototype amp is is phenomenal you know and I can't really tell you exactly what's in it because I don't know yeah it just sounds really really nice and Marshall has not always been my favorite no because it has um there's a few frequencies in some of their models that I just find really disturbing it's really hard to get it out because the EQ is not it's not super uh precise on a marshall so it's kind of hard to get that out but this amp didn't have it at all and it has a built-in little circuit which is basically like a uh like a delay and Reverb like a nice little roomy stuff for leads and stuff like that and I believe there's a little circuit for Distortion as well okay but I couldn't tell you like a boost yeah yeah um but so so that's what I'm using live the Marshall uh I can't even note MD no um I'll get back to you on that no problem I'll write it in a text yeah yeah and uh I should meet Greg my guitar tech he's phenomenal with this though I think I I think I saw the video where he's sending all this so you have basically three amplifiers right yeah so for clean I use the also Marshalls but it's the what's it called the not jvms the I'm so bad I'm not so interested in this right I just know what I like and and what I don't like so it's I've never collected anything I just use like the first 5150 I bought I used that up until it burnt yeah like I I didn't have several different ones and uh that for that song and this one for that so I never done that I'm very it needs to be very simple yeah so my rig is even though it looks incredibly if you've seen the rigged rundown it's like it's super complex got all these cables and it's like special cables that's for him yeah exactly I was about to say the rig seems very simple you have like a you have a wall yeah it's this you have a noise it's the amp Gates obviously you need all that because it's noisy you want to play it Loud yep but it's the wall yeah and then I have a tube screamer for boosting a little bit and a delay pedaled in there somewhere so do you have like do you know the the single path is the war before or after the tube screamer like it said all this is like goes through a ground control yeah okay uh so it's all like parallel I guess it's switchable and I only have like a signal like there's no actual signal going through the wall just just the uh just the expression exactly controller yeah I guess it's cool so that but that's if I get to build my rig it would be classic I will go through the guitar yeah you know the wall and then into the app that's what I would do yeah and maybe have a delay pedal yeah I would keep it very very simple same with my rig for when I do demos I'm right it needs to be easy yeah I I don't have time to I'm not one of those guys that can and I kind of miss that sometimes but that can just get lost in creating the perfect sound right doing this for that and set hours I just don't have the patience for it or at the time I mean if you have it simple you can focus on what's important music so what's important for me yes at least you know so and that's good for me to hear because I'm the complete opposite sometimes and I'm you know now I'm trying to you know make it simpler for myself so I can just go right yeah and do all that because I understand that it's because I'm a fan you know of gear and yeah yeah it's a lot of fun to just sit and jam but you get lost in that as well and so I'd rather like feel like I'm getting somewhere with it you're putting the chunks even though it's not necessary and maybe some of this stuff will never see the light of day right but I still arrange it all the way just in order to see exactly where it is not only I I might do like a long track with 15 different riffs just that off the top of my head or whatever over a couple of days and then I revisit and I start working on it you know but in order to actually understand and see the full picture and get the feeling of being live playing this riff yeah I gotta see it in here somewhere uh I have to arrange it fully and that need it needs to be simple I'm not a computer wizard I don't know anything about plugins I don't know how this is supposed to be routed through that I really don't know and so it needs to be simple yeah understand so you're you have a Gibson guitar too but your uh the guitar that's being sold is an epiphone uh or do you have a Gibson that's I have no I so the whole thing was I have my like my number one yeah is uh it's a custom Les Paul Gibson the black one or yes black one absolutely gorgeous yeah nice EMG 8185 and the reason for the EMG is just quickly is because it's not like it's the best sounding pickup but it's very very reliable yeah and especially if you've been out playing festivals or Shady clubs we don't really know the power your amp and since I always use a real amp no I try to stay away from all the other stuff this is something I it's just a matter of taste I think because my guess is they're really good today on the digital stuff but amps are special so and you never know what kind of power you have so if you have a little bit less you can start sounding AC DC just awesome if you race it easy but not if you're in in Flames yes you need the gain and you have the emgs and that boost a little bit so they always helped you so it's always been reliable that's why I have the emg's and they also come with a nice gold plating if you want to and that fits in the guitars right so it looks really really nice so but basically I played that guitar so much did I don't know how many records four or five records maybe and more you take it out live too and I've played it live so I had to refread it and I've done that once and then a couple of feels like thousand shows later I had to refread it again and it's not worth it so I had a friend um a German guy called Alex and Mark Marcus Marcus Alex Marcus Alexander Marcus yeah he's a guitar Builder yeah and he's built guitars I think for Metallica and stuff so he's really really good at what he does and I he said he could do a replica exactly right because he took all the measurements and weights and found out what Woods in it and everything and he was going to make a replica of it but right around that time he's really good friends with a guy called Michael that used to work at Gibson and and they asked if he wanted to if I wanted to do a signature series and I is that it's very flattering but who the is gonna buy something for you know 35 000 crowns just because it says money it's not how it works and that's not I'm not really interested in that uh but then he said well why don't we have a look at Epiphone and because then we can make it affordable and that's all I cared about it needs to be as good as my guitar of course it's not easy I mean the kid that's 15 years to listen to In Flames they're not going to get a the 4 500 euro guitar I wouldn't buy that no it doesn't matter if I'm 40 years it's just I I don't think that was not my goal is the point so I wanted it to be affordable because there was no good affordable guitars when I started out yeah uh because if you wanted something that was good it was extremely expensive and it was no money yeah so I wanted this to change a little bit so with my prototype it needed to be as good so I actually play it myself yeah but it needs to be under a thousand Euros yes for people to actually afford it you can be a good boy or a girl all year yeah and Christmas happens and Santa will give you something or you work all summer you can afford a guitar yeah you don't have to work for 10 years to do it so that was important to actually put proper guitars out there uh affordable and I loved it from the prototypes that it's all I've played since and then that's just fantastic how how awesome that can be I don't need the 30 35 000 Crown guitar um all I need is this because it plays exactly the way I want it's done to exactly my specs yeah um yeah that's super exciting so that that's how that came about and um nobody's happier than me yeah you know no Epiphone has been really really good for the past 10 years very good uh even to the point where it's almost better delivering than the good thing at times I think because I have to put I mean I think that the risk of getting a uh not as good quality guitar on an epiphone is probably higher than than getting a shitty guitar yeah from the custom shop yes it will always be high and it's just a matter of how much time you put into it and what kind of raw materials they would just put the price tag up there yeah you know and also the expertise and the the meticulousness and also I have the highest respect for it's just that it's out of my price range that I think I mean you don't really need that feel that you need to play a very expensive guitar no you're gonna go on stage you don't wanna for me it sucks if you drop it but yeah it's better if you drop a fast on your guitar than that yeah for sure yeah I never thought about dropping the guitar but I actually had a one time we played can't remember where it was but anyways I come back from lunch or whatever and they've done the lights like stage is built and they've had the lights set up and everybody's super quiet when we get back home to go back to the venue okay it's like looking at me it's like okay what's wrong guys well so the guitar boat with all my guitars in it three of them at the time has been standing right under the light rig when they pull it down to change the backdrop so it snapped one head it uh it cut one in half and it dented the third one so all three guitars basically I had on Thursday and they they were thinking ah don't tell me just order new ones don't put them in this don't tell him it's like and I heard that just that pissed me off more than the actual car theme like do you guys think they're all the same yeah they're not you know they're all set up and so it was just a very weird situation but but in the end a guitar for me is a tool yes so uh I have a lot of love for the ones that I play yeah but that's more because they become individual after a while uh but in general it is a tool yeah so um and they're all to each and everybody's you know um they're custom made for basically you set up your strings a certain way yeah right you have the the height of the pickups or whatever it's like all these things are for you yeah it doesn't mean that I would like to play it that way so they're all individual that way but in the end it's a tool yeah good so uh before we end the interview what are you playing right now games wise games wise oh yeah I'm well God damn this there's so much good on the horizon it's just not here yet yeah uh there's a new expansion for World of Warcraft right dragonfly very excited about that that revamped do you have time for World of Warcraft on tour oh okay okay I hear you absolutely I'm not a I'm not a like a Raider yeah okay but but I'm really excited they revamped a lot of stuff that I that I felt kind of wasn't going in a good direction they've redone that really well it's like Talent systems we don't need to get too much so that's exciting um opening up new worlds and stuff like that but then also we talked a little bit about the Bethesda guys and all those guys that having their new star field coming out that's that's really exciting um and as far as I understand it's like a single play game so that's like on flights yes in the tour bus no internet doesn't matter you have a whole world to explore so that that's exciting yeah so mainly those games awesome dude thank you so much oh thank you for taking the time finally yes yeah absolutely I'm very excited and uh new album foregone is released in February 2023. can I ask you a quick question absolutely I mean the the uh you know this whole waiting from the album is done do you listen to the album at all or are you completely like or do you just cut it off and just let yourself like don't let yourself listen to it until it's time again yeah well now you have to still listen to it again I guess Well normally I don't really listen back because you have you spend so much time with the songs and and with everything and it's all into the the details where it's like you can it's like molecules in this one right you can't even see or hear the picture so you don't have a good perspective after songs so after we're done I don't even like going to the mix or going to the mastering I'd rather give it a couple days and listen in on it then I'll leave it for a couple of weeks and this time around I actually went back and listened because I was so happy with the production and and there was so much Nuance to it it's probably been in the past too but I don't think I was you were receptive I was really excited about this so I actually went back and listened and I wasn't annoyed yeah or bored with it I got excited about it so so yeah I've listened a little bit to it but also when we recorded we realized we're not in a hurry we're still on the either mask previous album touring cycle and it's all sorts of practical issues nowadays like waiting time for vinyl to be pressed and all that let's just do this properly we're not in a hurry yeah uh nuclear blast is an amazing label they support us no matter what which is incredible yeah um it's a very luxurious situation to to be in and they they didn't even get to hear anything from the album they just knew that it would be an inflames album and it would be as good as we can possibly make it and they had faith in that so they're not in a hurry either so we just want to do it properly so when they finally got to hear it I think they got um a sigh of relief we could probably hear that they liked it and so we just decided that let's wait for everything the vinyl and everything to coincide and we're not in a hurry you know so but I've heard the songs now for a year so of course uh it's fun to to play the new songs you know how it is it's new stuff it's challenging and it's you know I really really like that um and we played three of them live now okay yeah and they were probably probably be another one out before the album as well so it's not like it's not been out there but the full album it's cool because then you have less new stuff to focus on when the art show album comes out yes you've heard a good part of it already so and that gives all these songs attention we always write an album we don't write singles or we wouldn't know how to do that it's all part of a bigger picture of course sort of like a live set should be yes awesome thank you so much I think so we're just derailing it it's a good conversation man yeah thank you so much and uh yes you also play just continue you're also playing in Stockholm in Gothenburg yeah yeah exactly yeah so we play a 16th of December uh in Stockholm at Hobart and then we'll play 17th is the the tour ending or seeing Gotham and that's gonna be awesome together without the gates right at the gates awesome orbit culture and Eminence it's all big Swedish package that's a good exactly right first time we talked with the Atticus honestly what it's crazy after all these years and we did the same thing in the US now with my sugar yeah you're right right we haven't toured together we just played festivals every now and then but we've known each other for 20 yeah five years or whatever so it's it's a crazy year yeah okay thank you we have to continue forever but yeah there it is thank you so much for watching influence thanks foreign [Music]
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