TrakinTech Presents India's Biggest Tech Roundtable 2024 ️ #IBTR2024
It's a very bad word, I can't even say it in front of you. When a person is in a bad mood, he is a good person. What did I say in the beginning, everyone is naked in the bathroom. I used to hate his face and I decided I will not see his face anymore. Irshad, today or tomorrow you have to speak. It's going on in Irshad's mind.
What was your answer? I will prefer to be quiet while showing a little understanding. Alright, India's Biggest Tech Roundtable 2024! Oh my God! We have a loaded panel here. But before starting, I want to say that we had called all the tech creators. We had called Rakesh from Gyan Therapy & Ranjeet. They couldn't come due to some reasons. But we have a panel which anyone will be proud of.
Tech is influenced by these people. But that's where I'll stop & I'm going to start with a loaded question. Obviously, Irshad is going to moderate today. But this is pertinent of today's time in the tech YouTube space.
There are some YouTubers who are very honest. He is honest everywhere & he is not so honest probably. I want to ask this from the panel. Because I think that is one question which goes on everywhere. You can take Reddit or Twitter. This is what happens
everywhere. So I want to ask one by one. Are some YouTubers dishonest & some are honest? Let's start! Who will start? I'll start from there.
Alright! So this proves that this is a loaded question. Who's going to say what? I'll go first. I think that all the creators here have their own influence. And I think that everyone is honest in their own way. Everyone collaborates with the brand.
Collaborating doesn't mean that the brand will write everything for us. The brand pays us. We get paid in collaboration. It's not like we don't get paid. I'm being honest. Just like you asked the question. The control of the test is on us.
How do we tell the audience? How do we show it? Sometimes the brand interrupts us. You have to remove this part. But our stand is that we have to show this part.
This is a factual point & we have to show it to the audience. Yes, there are some things that the brand tries to control. But it depends on the creator. If I talk about myself, I directly say that I have to show this point to the audience. I don't know. It doesn't matter if you collaborate with me or not.
And if we talk about reviews or honesty, everyone gives their honest opinion. A lot of people comment that you are saying only positive things. But a lot of people don't watch the whole video. They judge by watching half of the video. But if you watch the whole video, every creator has a negative point.
You don't have to mention that you are honest. Honesty is a trait that should be there internally. You don't have to mention that you are being honest. That's why I said everyone is honest. And about the collaboration part that you mentioned, the thing that people forget is the meaning of the word collaboration.
Collaboration means that you are working with these brands in collaboration. You are not towing the line all the time. Like you mentioned, we do the same. If we have to specifically talk about a product, we put our foot down on things where we say that this is something that we need to mention in the video. We have to be true to our audience which is exactly what everybody wants to do. So basically that's my point.
Alright. I think honesty comes from freedom. When you have 10 people sitting in front of you with guns, it's difficult to be honest. Or for example, let's say there are a lot of people who are unable to earn a living. If they have to lie in order to earn a living, I think that's fine.
But if they have money and things, they don't have to lie. That is what I feel. And as all tech creators, I feel that a tech creator is something that a normal person can't do. If you don't have an interest in tech, you can't become a tech creator. All the tech creators here, we have to get into it. We need a love for tech.
And when someone loves tech, he can't hate his audience for the product. And I have noticed this with all the creators. I have talked to everyone. Now, what happens is, as much as I have noticed, for example, if a phone comes, like I remember, there was a Samsung J series phone, which I made a video on. I mean, I made an opinion video because the brand didn't send it at that time. At that time, there wasn't that much money to buy and make.
But I didn't like the initial impression. The processor was bad, everything was bad. Then after 4-5 years, I was going in a cab. There was a cab driver. I asked him, how is the phone? He said, it's a great phone. I have been using it continuously in the cab for the past 3 years.
And there is no problem anywhere. The display is good, the touch is good. So, in my opinion, it was a bad phone. And I was honest. But it was a very strong phone for that cab driver. So, my down the line, I understood one thing, in the matter of honesty, or in the matter of telling things, that the same iPhone is bad for one audience.
And the same iPhone is very strong for one audience. So, whenever I buy a phone or a piece of technology, for which audience is it good, and for which audience is it bad, I tell them clearly, whether it is a brand, or not, whether the brand has sent it, or not. There are a lot of brands that don't work with us. There are a lot of brands that send us the first units. There are a lot of brands, which let's say, OnePlus also took us to China.
I met their CEO. So, our questions don't change. The question is, why is there a green line issue? So, in our end, I don't think any tech creator is dishonest. I think their values are different. But yes, I have a lot of respect. I have a lot of respect for all the people in the tech space.
Because there is no love. No one can replace it. From here, Divinder. I think there are two ways to look at it. One is that you are producing a content.
You are introducing some product to your audience. You have to be factually right, as Manoj mentioned. You should not be wrong factually. That is the most important thing. You should not create things out of thin air. You don't really have to promote the product.
You just have to introduce. And then it's up to the audience, whether to take it or whether to leave it. That is your most important responsibility. But where users should trust us, and where our true influence comes, is when we recommend products.
Let's say we are doing a video about the best phones to buy under 15,000, 20,000, 25,000. That is where we add a lot of value. That is where we can tell them, these are the things that are important. If you are a particular kind of person, like if you like gaming, this is a product that you should go for. If you want a clean software experience, you should buy this product.
And these things add a lot of value. Because if we don't do that, then it will be very difficult for them to decide and buy. Got it.
But the answer to my question, this is not a question, I also want to say something about it. But I'll ask you, if this is the case, what Shlok said, what Devinder said, then why do YouTubers get the tag of honesty? And why is it like this? What's that reason? I know it's a difficult question. No, no, the question is not difficult at all. The answer can be difficult to give. Okay.
The question is very simple. And if I say it in one line, everyone is naked in the bath. This is the reality. Now listen to me. How do you get that tag? Or how do those things work? I have crores in my account.
I have expensive cars. My house is very nice. But if I have to upload a photo of a new phone on the internet, then I will look for the dirtiest corner of the house. And I will click a photo in such a background that just got this new phone. So that the public can see the garbage in the back corner.
I won't show my best part. I mean, I'm not talking about me, I'm talking about creators. Just trying to be relatable.
Trying to be humble. Trying to be like, I'm an ordinary man. If we talk about numbers, the audience has no idea. The kind of money that's running. If we talk about money, nobody has an idea.
And I won't say numbers because, I mean, unless I have the permission. In tomorrow's conversation. If you have permission, everyone knows everyone's numbers. See, the thing is, what did I say in the beginning? Everyone is naked in the bath. This is the reality. You know exactly that...
Okay. Here in the ecosystem. Let's say a brand launches a phone today.
Not everyone gets the campaign. That's the reality. Let's say the brand works with 5 creators or 10 or 15.
There are definitely people who are left out. Now that depends on their reaction. Sometimes they take this as a grudge.
And after 4 days they come with their honest form. That I am honest. See, the brand didn't even send me a phone. So it becomes even more relatable.
They say, he was really honest. That's why the brand didn't send him a phone. Now he is speaking the truth. Second thing is, negativity sells faster.
If I praise an iPhone today, then why not praise a good phone? But if someone says, iPhone has this problem. So the iPhone which is not afforded, they will say, yes, you are right. Negativity sells. So this is the reality of honesty.
In a nutshell, all of us, as an individual, we can say this line, who knows me better than me? Right. When we go to sleep at night, we all know what we have done throughout the day. This is the reality.
The question here, also now after this, what happens after this, how does the audience, how do they look at this content and understand? Who is telling the truth or not? How does the audience trust the YouTuber? Just one add-on here. Audience knows everything. They know everything.
They are super smart. Sometimes people try to manipulate. Sometimes a few are manipulated. But not for a longer run. At the end, they know what is going on. That's what I think.
Prasad, do you have any thought on this? Same thing. Like Gaurav said, the audience knows everything. What we are doing. If you are honest, then only you can survive longer.
Yeah, absolutely. Sanchit. See, it's a simple thing.
If the question is understood, if the question is to tell me or not, how does a YouTuber get the tag of honesty? This is the question. What I think, first of all, there is a new trend. We have seen different trends in a long time. A new YouTuber comes.
I can easily say, B-Bomb has a lot of shortcomings. I can say, you have a lot of shortcomings. And what happens with that is, people think that he is a crazy guy.
He has said it on his face. He has made a mess of it. So, he is an honest guy.
Basically, poking. It can be poked. So, I have been watching all this for 9 years. You guys have seen it more than me. But yes, I have noticed this trend a lot. There are new trends.
First of all, your fellow YouTubers. I will say bad things about you. I will say a lot of bad things about you. I will tell you. He said this in that video.
He said this. And I can show myself better. That is a way.
And I don't feel bad about it. Because what can happen with this? Will my brand be created? Because in today's time… I will disagree a little. I will disagree a little. You are building your brand by making someone look bad. That is wrong.
This is what I feel. Would you respond to somebody who is roasting you? See, I won't do it. Because I don't have that nature. Listen to me.
I have been working in this field for more than 10 years. I have never poked anyone. Listen to me. You are my brother.
You won't listen. Look, I think that in today's time, all of us are sitting here and we all have a relation with the brand. We have a relation with each other. But if I start YouTube today, it will be very difficult for me to easily fit in this industry and sit among you. Agreed.
100%. So, I will adopt a new technique. Obviously, I will adopt it to look a little better. To look different from you.
To look different from you. Whether I take the help of content, whether I speak ill of you, whether I make fun of the brand. At that time, I will see the environment of the internet. So, some people are lucky to take the tag of honesty. Some people get it in the beginning and then gradually they start working with the brand.
Then the tag of honesty can be removed. I came up with a lot of theories. I used to sit here with my team and keep talking that how to approach in a balanced way. So, in the beginning, we used to think that we will keep the audience at the top.
First, our thought was that we will keep the audience at the top. Then we used to think that we have given a lot of priority to the brand. But I understood over time that everything is important for me. Obviously, if the brand does not give me the unit time, then how will I make the video on time? If I don't stay true to the audience, then how will I make relations with them? How will they understand me well? Similarly, I gave top priority to everyone.
And I tried to maintain a balance. And the most important thing that I think we should address is to mention the collab and put the tag of paid promotion. Yes. I mean, how can we leave this thing? Here, I want to ask one thing to Rupesh.
Because he is the newest. Right? Technically not. Technically not. But his channel. Technically, yes.
So, do you think when you started a new channel, did you think that you need to take the support of such things to gain the numbers? Do you think that is important? That is important because I don't think so. To a certain extent, I do not accept that honesty is due to luck. I think what he said was absolutely right. It's a very concentrated approach or show to the consumers. Consumers are shown and that is built.
Before Rupesh answers, I'll just add in one thing. First, I think Rupesh doesn't need any cheap tactics to do. He has lots of talent. He doesn't need these things. This tag is shown.
I'll tell you. Let's say a video of a phone is being made and 10 videos are coming. Or both titles have written real review, real search, honest review, whatever. You know, similar kind of a word is used.
Now, you can see the remaining 9 on one side and one is held separately. When you search, let's say as a normal viewer who has got no idea who we people are. He has searched about a phone and he has got 10 videos. In one of them, he has mentioned in the thumbnail or the title that guy would want to go to that video because he thinks that many people don't know how internet works.
Whatever he is writing, he must have said it right. Let's open it. That's how it gets built over time. That was one point. Yeah, sorry. So, personally, I hate drama.
I hate drama. I hate cheap controversy. So, my clear point was that I'll make videos that I love watching.
Very nice. There will be style in the video. There will be good music. So, this was the point of view from the beginning.
We'll make good content. Starting, obviously, we didn't get devices. I mean, silicon was fairly new. Still fairly new. We are still not getting a lot of devices. But that was it.
But I was sure that with cheap tactics, you can never gain in the long term. That is true. So, the point was that make good videos, make good content, it will automatically work no matter what you do.
And I think, like everyone has added points here, that is also a point that it's the creator's responsibility to only partner with brands on good products. For example, if I have to say about myself, I make sure that if a product is not good, then I won't make a video no matter what happens. Makes sense. Okay, so now, we've spoken about the creator bit. I mean, let's break it down to the tech stuff as well because these creator things will come back. Mr. Arun didn't tell us that you've made a good video.
Yes, yes. I wasn't you. He used his own name.
That's what I thought. Don't feel bad for me. Alright. One thing is definite. First of all, there are two questions.
One for collaboration and one for honesty. For honesty, I feel that a show is made that I am like this and it is shown in a certain way. And obviously, consumers understand.
Lot of consumers don't understand. But anyway, that tag is built because things are shown in a certain way. For collaboration, I wanted to very strongly make this point earlier that till date, we must have done 500-800 unboxings. I don't know. Whatever we have done, it must have been more.
It must have been more. Right. So, every video, whatever we speak in front of the camera, whatever I talk, it is backed by testing, it is backed by research, analysis and relatively, we also look at lot of other phones and whatever we speak, we speak accordingly. Many times, brands don't know, I mean, they don't like it and we don't do that video. And a lot of times, there is a fight. In fact, last year, we have said no to more campaigns than yes.
So, that is what. I have also campaigned a lot. And I am sure it is true about everyone here that we can't do it.
We won't do the video. So, that is, I think, that is what it is. But, what did you say about Tech Twitter? Sorry, next time, when you upload, keep writing honest. Then, it will reach everyone. But, what is the scene with Tech Twitter? We will talk about that in a bit.
I will add a small thing in this. Like, if you, now people look at honesty that how much a person said negative, that is honesty. Exactly. Like, if you upload a video, then people will say, fine, there are small problems in this.
Rest, everything is fine. Last time, there was a small upgrade. But, if I say the same thing, like, Apple is going to be finished. Apple is not upgrading anything.
Now, they have made a useless phone. Like, Apple. I mean, if my tonality becomes taunty, then people start enjoying when I attract negativity.
And, I have seen people do like, the top brands who are making good phones, who are doing all these things. One such brand, who does not have the sponsorship to give, or who never sponsors, beat him up so badly. Like, he is a traitor, he is like this, he is like that. And, from that, a narrative is made that this guy can beat up, this guy is the truth. I have seen Here, I have a point about negativity. Negativity doesn't always work.
Now, there have been earlier YouTubers, they were big at one point of time. Correct. And when the boat was coming down, you know, they started making negative videos. Correct. Because if the views don't come, the brands don't come. If the brands don't come, then what will we do? We have to increase the views.
If you want to increase the views, then do negativity. Many have tried like this and they have not been successful. So, what I am trying to say is, no matter what you do, the audience is very very smart. Don't compromise on your integrity. Just don't do that. Yes. I mean, just for the views, you are doing negativity, you are abusing the brand.
That also does not work, I think. I will say something in 10 seconds just for the audience. Next time, whenever you watch a video and your favourite creator or random unknown creator, whatever is that person, whosoever is that person, if he says anything about any product, then always think what is the reason behind it.
Is he getting angry because he didn't get the campaign? Is he getting angry because he didn't get the product? Or does he want views? Or is he targeting someone? I mean, blindly, just because you heard it, don't trust. Even if someone is saying something good, whatever that person is saying, it's always well thought, well rehearsed, well, you know, coming in from inside. So, just think once what is the main motive behind it. That's it.
You know, who should trust the most? When a brand doesn't send a product to a person, doesn't get a campaign, then they should praise that person. I just did it. No, that is true. I agree.
I think, I would also like to add one thing in this. I think, I have seen this trend in the industry, that a lot of creators want some units, some creators don't want units. So, those who don't want it, that creator basically, I am not taking anyone's name here, that creator basically, that phone. No, no, no. Because, I have seen, I have never done this before, but I have seen, this trend was going on. Suppose, I get a unit, but Sanchit doesn't get it.
So, Sanchit bashes that phone and says, it's like this, it's bad. I am just taking an example. I am giving an example, I am not taking Sanchit's name, I am giving an example.
Sanchit is the most honest. He is my brother, don't say such things. I had a counter for Shlok, which said that if someone has praised when he didn't get the product, not necessarily, we can trust. Because, who knows, that person is trying to wow the brand.
100%, 100% true. No, no, I have seen this. I had just seen a video and I had spoken to someone. I asked, is this a campaign? Trying to get the attention. Trying to get the attention from the brand that I have made a positive video. Alright, alright, guys, guys.
We will move on to the next one. The next one is, I want to put it across to the panel. Do brands actually listen to feedback? Like, feedback that you provide? I wanted to ask that. Because, I have noticed that generally with the few brands that we have worked with, we have given feedback and listened to feedback.
For example, Motorola, Vivo. You know, I have generally seen that they are a little more accepting of feedback. And they actually make improvements to the product as well. For example, they will tell Motorola that the camera is not good, so they are improving it. We keep talking to Vivo that these are things that you can improve. OnePlus, I have a conversation with OnePlus. How has that equation been for you with brands? So, I think some brands listen.
But some don't. I mean, I think we talk to everyone. And there are a lot of feedback calls regarding the OS, the hardware, everything. Camera, UIs. And I have had a lot of these conversations and video calls. But I think only a few brands actually listen and make changes.
Do you have a problem with that? No, it's fine. Obviously, my task is to give them feedback. It's on them. We will let you know as soon as their product comes out.
I think in terms of feedback, Motorola takes the best feedback. Vivo too. Vivo and Motorola, both are serious in my opinion. In fact, Motorola has made so many changes based on our discussion with Shivam. I mean, I really want to point that out.
It's very accepting. In fact, I would like to say one thing here. The people of India, these are all Chinese, South Korean companies. But the management sitting here, they really drive. If those are the right people in right places who are looking at people, taking feedback. It makes a lot of difference to the actual product that they launch.
I mean, a lot of times, I think a few of the brands won't even have, they won't be able to make changes either. Like a lot of decisions happen not in India. And India is just like a centre where they are selling these products. Probably importing or making it here. So that can also be an issue.
I would add to that. What I have seen, just like you said, Motorola gives good updates to everything. The brands whose primary market is India or they are making India-specific units. Give them feedback, they know that our business is going on from here.
They make changes quickly. And they upgrade quickly. But if there is a big brand that is international.
If I am giving them feedback that the skin tone is not according to Indians. Then they are selling in China, South Korea, US. So maybe they are not optimizing the skin tone just for India. So I have noticed that India-specific brands change very quickly. The international ones, their feedback goes to the groups.
Tell me, which is not an India-specific brand? All of them, in my view, who are selling here. India is such a big market that it has to be your top 1, top 2 market. And they have to give that importance.
For reference, like Apple or Samsung. Samsung S24 series is also sold internationally. It is sold equally in all countries. But there are a lot of India-specific variants, India-specific units. I will say CMF or nothing. Even if it is international positioning, but India is a major market.
But I have seen that the skin tone of the iPhone is different for the US and India. I have seen that. Yes, yes.
When it comes to the camera, it is generally about the skin tone. Because skin tone is important. No, I am just generally saying that. That's the one thing that we can immediately tell the brand. Skin tone is something that you need to sort of tune for. In this, Vivo is very aggressive.
In Vivo, V1 chip, all these chips. I have heard that they are very aggressive. Because in Pixel, they keep talking about real tone. But it is never tuned for brown skin.
And I have mentioned that in my reviews multiple times. I have always noticed this. Alright, so now I want you guys to take the slate out. The slate is in front of you.
And the question is very simple. Your favourite brand of 2024. Please write it down and show it to the camera.
In terms of what? Progress. And it can be across brands, not just smartphone brands. I mean you can figure out what you want to say. But a tech brand. It is a question to ask tech brands.
I am asking you. What is your favourite brand of 2024? We will ask you the reason. Do we have to write it down? Favourite or least favourite? Actually, let's do that. Let's do both. Let's not do not favourite.
Let's do brands who could have done better. Will the question change? No, no, no. Write two answers. Favourite brand and brands who could have done better. A brand that could have done better.
Alright, let's go for it. And everyone show at the same time. We are talking about 2024, right? All the phone launches. 2024. Don't take it to my answer.
Alright, everybody is ready? This is only 2024, this year. Favourite and brands who could have done better. That is right, that could have done better. Only one, right? Favourite and brands who could have done better. Alright. We are ready? Don't start with me.
Alright, show everyone. Show. Alright, there you go. Okay, let me see the answers. We have the same answers.
Oh, we do. That's because we work together, Arun. Okay, CMF and nothing.
Redmi is the one that could have done better. Redmi could have done better. CMF is my favourite brand.
Okay, so who has written Redmi? Okay, now I want to know your reasons why. Yeah. Honestly, I don't know what happened. Yeah, same.
2016-17. Apple? But I have also written Motorola. Because I feel... Okay, please. Back in 2016-17, the Note series used to launch, right? So there was hype.
We had to buy it. Redmi Note 5, Note 5 Pro. We didn't even get it. You had to do it.
Let me tell you, we didn't get the Note 5. That's why we were literally sulking for 2 days. Because we didn't get the unit. We had to buy it in black.
We used to buy it in black. Wow, I remember that time. What happened to Redmi Note 14 Pro Plus? We had to buy it in black. Yeah, I bought it in black. What are you saying? Because of flash sales.
Because of flash sales, people were buying extensions. Oh yeah, just a squeeze. I am telling you what happened with Coldplay ticket.
It has happened before in our tech industry. Redmi did a different business. I know people who have earned 15-20 lakhs from Affiliate during just the sale period. Before they got to know that people are doing this. Just by providing the plugins and their Affiliate code in the plugin. Wow.
Yeah. I mean there was a different business there just because of the flash sale. What was your answer by the way? What was your answer? I have written my favourite is Motorola.
But it's written in real. I haven't written the other one because there is no one. I mean I can add in for everything. Okay fine fair enough.
He has done such a good job. Everyone else has done it somewhere. This is cheating. Mine is also Motorola. Everyone's is Motorola. Motorola is your favourite.
And Infinix is not your favourite. Infinix is not your favourite. Motorola. That's very interesting. Infinix is not your favourite. Mine is not Motorola.
There is Vivo and iQoo. Same brand. There are many reasons.
Like in Vivo's X100 series I enjoyed it. X100 value. And in 200 I enjoyed it more. Honestly speaking.
It's fantastic. In fact for iQoo I will say whenever I have to make a video best smartphone under 15, 20, 25, 30. My top priority is for some reason iQoo. I mean it's like what specs they have given. It's like that. This was not of favourite smartphone.
It was of favourite brand. I mean the brand which did the best. So yours is more towards because their smartphones were good. That's why I want to be technically right. I want to probe the Infinix bit.
What do you mean by Infinix? Infinix. They have launched very good phones in 2024. But when I test Infinix's phone. I don't know. Saru saw where the least business comes from. It's not about business.
It's not about business. But I am telling you honestly. I don't like their UI. I seriously don't like it.
You don't like the UI much. Fair enough. Saru has opened his exoskeleton.
A lot of people have written Apple. I have also written Apple. Let's ask Devinder. Let's talk about favourite brand. The thing is I know that everyone would be writing Motorola.
Which is obviously good thing. Because Motorola has launched such good phones. But the one brand that is underrated and has done really well is I think Meta. What a good point. Yes. But there is no existence in India.
They have been really well collecting your data or something. Collecting your data. That's right. They have been really well.
All the smartphone companies do that. So what to say. I will tell you why. I am still wrapping my head around it.
But that's a good answer though. I will tell you why. There are two reasons.
One is the Meta glasses. They are one of the best products that have come in the market. That he is wearing it right now. You are wearing one.
And you have been wearing for one long year I think. I have been wearing it since I bought it. And you don't use a product if you don't like it. You like it that's why you are using it. That is one thing. And that is an extension to the mixed reality headsets.
Because when the glasses will be like this then only more and more consumers will actually be using it. Devinder, just one thing about this Meta bit. Is that everybody, legit everybody.
You know that the product is good when every tech creator when they go abroad. The first thing they want to go and buy is the Meta. Exactly. And the second thing is Orion glasses.
They showcased. Even you have one. Second thing is Orion glasses. They showcased it.
It is a prototype. It will take time to come in the market. But that is exceptional. I was there. I saw it first hand. And I am supremely impressed.
How can they make such a good product? Tell us a little bit more about it. I think you are the only one who experienced it. They didn't let us obviously use it.
But we can see it. We saw the demo. And it was like.
There is a lot of it that you can control just with the eye tracking. Is it as good as the Vision Pro? The display is not as good as the Vision Pro. Of course. But they wanted to say. If you use the Vision Pro.
Then you wear it in public. And do like this. You look like a little challenged type. So their idea is to.
Eye tracking or Neuro tracking. They have their band. And the glasses. You can just use it.
No one will know that you are using it. How you are interacting. You can overlay. AR overlay will be on the top of the products.
All of these things. So I am very very impressed. And I am looking forward to it.
And Apple? Apple. I was there at the iPhone launch also. So the thing is. I was expecting a lot more from the Glow Time event. You didn't like the camera control? The camera control is so good. It's the best.
What are you talking about? The camera control. Even I don't like it. Nobody likes it.
I am being sarcastic. It's terrible. I know. I mean. We are thinking that the buttons will be less.
They are increasing it. And there is no use for it. You won't believe. Since I am using it. I haven't used it even once.
Same. Seriously. It's like a new one. It's good. You do? There is an opposing view on this.
Not an opposing view. I am talking about both. I think Meta is a poor brand. Which is doing a good job. Which is being negative on the internet. People don't acknowledge.
That's what I am saying. Meta is underrated. I have this opinion about Apple. That Apple is so big.
So big. It doesn't matter if we like it or not. The thing is. The reality is. Apple can't experiment. Do you think Apple can't make foldable technology? Or Apple can't do anything else? They can do everything.
True. But the thing is. They take every step carefully.
Because a small deviation. Will impact them. In a big way. The new brands. The small brands. Sometimes they will do everything.
Put a light on the back. No. Nothing was original.
I am saying nothing else. I know what you mean. For example. The one who copied. Yeah, I know. You are right.
They can do anything. It doesn't matter to them. They have to stay on the limelight.
I know people. Who don't care about it. Because Apple is so big.
That they can't experiment. But what about the camera control? Do you like it or not? I am coming back to that. I will tell you. The problem. What happened with camera control. In my opinion was.
Apple wanted. People to use it like this. And like this.
Because of that. It's positioning has gone up. It's not comfortable like this. If it was down.
Might have been useful for some people. Because the way it works and all. If the positioning was better. I will tell you. Find a better application. Justification is fine.
No. No. No. I am justifying. I am justifying.
I am saying. What is going on in their mind. Because. See. The position there.
They had shown in the demo. You can use it in this way. By the thumb.
And from here too. Because of that. Positioning has gone up.
Because if you try using this. This is where your finger would land. But camera control falls here. It falls inside.
Same way when you do it here. It falls down a little. So what he is trying to say.
That button is not useful now. That is what his point was. Practically. Because of the position.
If they had added finger print instead. It would have been better. You too. You too. Face ID is good.
It's fine. No. No. I don't know. I don't know. Whatever.
One minute. Arun. I have one point. You were saying that.
Apple is taking a big step. It is taking a big step. Because. What is taking a big step? Step. The thing is.
Samsung is also a big brand. They are experimenting a lot more. Their philosophies are completely different. Right. Samsung and Apple. Samsung.
Still is. Kind of you know. Young brand in terms of. See.
For Apple. iPhone is the biggest cash crop. Apple is the most cash rich company. I know.
No. If they don't experiment. But.
That's how the reality is. See. Today as we speak. Do you think that.
Apple didn't lock iPhone 17 already. Or they didn't lock iPhone 18 already. Do they know. What they are going to give? Sir.
I was talking to. You know. The cycle goes on for 3 years. The product is made 3 years before. So.
Those things are there. Right. So.
I was talking to. I was talking to. I was talking to. I was talking to.
I was talking to. So those things are there. But the innovation cycle is decreasing. That's why it lost some time. I will also say same thing. Innovation.
Has been lost somewhere. In means this became a marketing company. Rather than. They have strong product obviously. But there has to be something. Everytime Steve Jobs used to come at that time.
He used to come up with something new. One thing used to be like this. Which would attract you to the product. Yes. Now it isn't like this. Always.
Can I add something? Yes. I will just add one thing. I have this phone for example. We have all seen it. The tri-fold.
Okay. It must have taken a lot of effort to make this. Yes.
Do you agree with this? Yes. But the way we are exposed to tech products right now. I think our threshold has increased so much. That it has become very difficult for us to please a brand.
I still remember in 2019. When the first fold came in. It was a magical device. Yes. Now if I show a kid.
If I show a fold to a 10 year old kid. For that it's like. Okay it's done. Sometimes we are too harsh. We don't appreciate. How much effort it takes.
Okay. Let's take a little bit on that side. We have seen everything. We have seen from rollable phones. I will come to the foldables bit in a bit. To TVs.
To this that everything. That it has become very difficult for brands to wow us. I 100% agree. I would like to give my perspective. Like camera button and me too.
Because I love iPhones a lot. Personally if I am honest. What? We all love it. With whom do you do it? That was the bigger question.
With Apple. With Apple. But yes.
I will add a little bit. In this. I feel that. Apple. Because the phone is strong. I mean it will be in the best phones.
All the top phones. Samsung, Apple, Oppo. Now Apple must be thinking. What should we do differently.
To differentiate from the old ones. If I remove the camera button in this. Then. Such a big upgrade is not seen.
So I think. Apple is trying small things. To experiment a little bit. To make it different. But not so much. That it becomes too different.
The experiment done in the photos app. I will give you. I have this. I showed a reel. So he told.
How to organize it better. You have done that. Now it's good. Now it's good. Now it's good. Now it's good.
Now it's good. Now it's good. Now it's good.
Now it's good. Now it's good. Now it's good.
Now it's good. Now it's good. Now it's good. It might be 120Hz this time. The reason is... It might be.
See now. The reason is really a fan of Apple. For 60Hz. I am not giving any justification. I am telling you what their thought process is. I am not giving any justification.
It should be 120Hz. 120Hz is better than 60Hz. There is no doubt about it. But the thing is, the people who are buying an iPhone, the iPhone 15 users, they don't care about it. They still want an iPhone.
No, no. The people who play games, they care about 60Hz. Again, this cannot be a justification. Lot of gamers are using iPhone. See, I will tell you something. When any brand makes a product, they take care of two things.
Number one, the features they are giving, they will give minimum where they are able to meet the threshold for the masses. Okay. As long as they think that 60Hz can work, they will stay at 60Hz and not go to 120Hz.
Now when they feel the pressure, they will move to 120Hz. We are making them feel the pressure. So listen. Number one, every brand when giving or designing any product, they keep the set of features at bare minimum to meet the threshold so that the costs are low.
And while they price the product, they would want to price it as high where they feel that they can take out this much money from their pocket. That's how the game plays. No, no.
Just to maximize the profits for any brand. So, the point here is that because Apple knows that it can work, because of this, they are not thinking about the consumer. That is where my biggest complaint is. Exactly.
That is what I'm saying. Okay. Let's move. Yeah, sure. Of course. But before that, I just want to probe Rupesh on his best brand. He wrote CMF by nothing. You think I'm not going to ask you about it? No, no.
I know there's a... There was some news about Blast. No, forget that. That's your reasoning. My reasoning is, you know, I as a creator and also as a tech-loving person, I love value for money products. Good point.
Toko F1, Redmi K20, Redmi K20 Pro. When the K20 and the K20 Pro came, they legit... Exactly. So, I loved it.
And when the CMF Phone 1 launched, even now, I don't think there's a better phone in that price range. Agreed. But I love value for money products. Everybody thinks the same about CMF as a brand. CMF is actually one of the best gaming phones under 15,000, if you look at it.
Yeah. Price to performance ratio is very good. Very good. Moving on. Come on. We were talking about Apple, right? Now, there's one thing that I feel genuinely, like, you know, and I made a video about this and specifically I did.
I feel like, the advantage that Apple had in the processor, the camera, I mean, at one point, it used to have an advantage. Not anymore, obviously. All of that is like, it's in the two generation gap.
Whatever processors they use, A18. And now I feel like, with Android phones, they're actually at the level of iPhones. Sometimes even better.
Is that true or not? Let's take a slate here and we'll do favorite Android UI and then we will... Let's do that. Yeah? Let's go. Favorite Android UI of 2024. Beta? Yeah. What specifically? This shows you're a tech nerd.
This shows you're a tech nerd. No, but the point is, even if you want to write iOS, you can write iOS. 1.1.2.
If you want to write iOS, you can write iOS. No problem. But it was for Android.
No, he said... You can write iOS. He can write. Who's better than iOS? Alright. Let's show. Reveal. Is everyone done writing? Yes.
Let's do this. Devendra doesn't want to respond to any brand. Do you want to write on Android? It's the same thing. Both are the same. Wait, wait. I'll read it out.
One UI... Do you want to write on Android? iOS! Do you want to write on Android? No, no. Android or... Between Android and iOS, do you like iOS? Android is oxygen OS. Oxygen OS, okay.
One UI and color OS. One UI and... What's...
It's the same thing. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. It's color OS.
Fair enough. Interesting, right? What did Rupesh write? Nothing OS and oxygen OS. I have to be specific.
One UI and seven, right? One UI and seven. Okay. I have to be specific. One UI and seven.
I'll also write seven. Shlok, what did you write? One UI. Okay, one UI.
What happened? Even nothing OS is really good. Nothing OS is really good. Tell me about one UI.
I really liked 2-3 things about one UI. First, it is stable and secure. These two things are rare in Android in general. Because there are hot apps, hot games, and many more. There are many more.
Yes. It's genuine garbage. Those who know about tech know this. So, those two things. But one thing I liked more is that AI features are in many phones. Samsung has done a good thing.
Samsung has developed AI features themselves. I liked that a lot. They have built many brands with collaboration. But they have developed it themselves and they have developed it inside the phone as well. Like there are a few cameras. So, I found that to be very different.
Yes, it is a step forward than all the other brands. I completely agree with you. If we see now, there are a lot of apps like Google and Apple and Google and Apple and Google There is a lot of it that you can control just with the eye tracking.
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