The Best $1250 Gaming PC Possible (End of 2024)

The Best $1250 Gaming PC Possible (End of 2024)

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[Music] what's up guys welcome back to build fix  this is my monthly series for anyone who's looking   to build a new computer today I'm going to be  getting back to basics because we've actually   gone through quite a few launches recently some  of the Dust has settled so I have two builds for   you guys today one is the best bang for the buck  gaming PC that you can build I think at the moment   and the second is a higher-end system that's  looking forward to Wi the 9800 x3d launches in   just about a week this is build fix episode number  eight for our oober proudly sponsored by PC part picker excellent I will quickly explain how build  fix works it starts with a community post usually   posted towards the beginning of the month but  if you're not subscribed to my YouTube channel   consider subscribing so you can be notified of  when that goes up you can use PC part picker   or you can manually enter the components that  you have for your planned build I then browse   through the replies and pick some builds that  I think could use some tweaking or some tuning   and of course there's a pole attached which is  just for fun uh went with an October themed won   for this month and the ghost one yay ghosty 44%  of of the votes but let's dive in with our first   build submitted by Logano 27 and I picked this  one because I think it could benefit from some   tweaking but I also picked this because I think it  represents a really good bang for the buck system   with a am5 build a 7700x CPU so that's what  I'm going to be aiming towards as I tune this   logoo is using two 27in 1080p 165 HZ refresh rate  monitors but they've chosen an RTX 470 super OC so   they're already going a little overboard with the  graphics card but I think the 4070 super is a good   GPU to pair with the rest of these components at  around this price range this is also a mixed use   build since Logano does CAD work in Fusion so  having more vram on the graphics card does help   out with that the budget for the system is at  or under $2,000 and here is my current uh list   of the prices as input on PC part picker which is  coming up at about uh just shy of 1,900 for the   total so I'm going to edit this parts list and  I'm going to see if there's some stuff we can   swap out or swap in or things that we should just  leave alone but real quick let's talk about the   CPU situation right now for anyone who is buying  Intel just recently launched their cor Ultra 200s   series of processors at least they launched the  higher-end K skes the unlocked like the 285k and   it's been pretty universally confirmed from all  the reviews that have come out in the last week   that these are not ideal for gaming in fact the  gaming performance for some of these they're not   even outperforming last generation until 14th gen  CPUs to say nothing of amd's best offerings like   the 7800 x3d so for that reason I would only be  pointing people towards Intel's newest core Ultra   200 series processors if they're specifically  building a non-gaming system and since both   builds today are gaming PCs they're both AMD am5  systems which have an upgrade pass to the existing   7800x 3D which is still the best CPU for gaming  as well as the 9800x 3D which we're expecting to   launch next week and reviews for that are still  forthcoming however the 7800x 3D in the leadup to   Intel's launch has gone way up in price it can  only be found for about $450 at the cheapest   whereas a month or so ago it was selling for 350  or even less so if you're building a system right   now you can still build am5 you can go with one  of their six core or 8 core not 70 800x 3D options   which are more reasonably priced around 200 bucks  that will let you get a system up and running that   is forward compatible with the x3d CPUs either  the 7,000 or the 9,000 ones that you could maybe   buy later down the line when prices have mellowed  out a little bit so right from the top here we   have the 8 core 7700x which is about $270 right  now and note that for the AMD processors that have   an x on the end it's not going to ship with a CPU  Cooler that means you're going to need to add one   of those on which is going to cost probably around  $35 to $50 but our Builder who I'm just going to   call Logan has chosen the noctua NH L9 x65 which  is a very good CPU Cooler but it's also a little   bit more on the low profile side and it also costs  about $70 and I'll say for any budget Builders out   there you should opt for the AMD ryzen 5 7600  non X the 7600 X is about $28 but you will need   to add a CPU Cooler for that in that case I'd  recommend just spend a little bit more and get   the 7700x budget Builders right now should opt for  the $ 7600 less than $200 comes with a CPU Cooler   so you don't need to add that as an expense and  yes you can upgrade your CPU uh cooler down the   line too for a better one but that's going to  be an over $100 savings right there I'm going   to op to swap the cooler out here though just to  save a few bucks as well the one thing I couldn't   tell with this build is if it was supposed to be  small form factor there's a an sfx power supply   and that low profile CPU Cooler but it's still  a fulls size ATX motherboard I'm just going to   assume we're doing a fulls size ATX build though  because that's what makes the most sense for most   Builders it provides the most flexibility and for  that we're going to go with the go-to air cooler   right now which is thermal rights Phantom spirit  this is right up there with all the best-in-class   air coolers it's only $36 and it even comes with  addressable RGB fans there's a non-rgb version   as well if you're not into the RGB bling next  up let's talk about the motherboard this is a   perfectly fine motherboard it's $200 it's an Asus  tough board it has a good feature set and it's got   all the connectivity you would need and in fact  uh do keep that motherboard as was about to say I   can save you 50 bucks by going with my go-to azck  recommendation right now which is either the live   mixer or the PG lightning which are effectively  the same board just the live mixer has this garish   color scheme on it which maybe you're into but but  actually point being I don't recommend either of   these right now cuz they're both over $200 this  is supposed to be a $150 motherboard but azck has   gotten people recommending it so now they're like  ooh maybe we can charge an extra $80 for that no   stick with that Asus tough board or if you do want  to save 20 bucks aarch b650 steel Legend Wi-Fi is   a good choice and you know it's got Wi-Fi so this  or the tough either one is perfectly fine this is   a whiteboard so it's not going to be quite as  matchy matchy but uh we're building on a budget   so the Aesthetics are lower on the importance list  the memory kit we're definitely going to swap out   we have a 32 gig kit that is what you want but  it's ddr5 5200 and cl40 not the best speed or   timings and for $97 there's definitely faster and  better memory kits out there if you're building   on am5 you want a ddr5 memory kit that is ddr5  6000 to about 6,400 that is a sweet spot for the   current ryzen platform I don't actually recommend  going much beyond that unless you really want to   get into memory overclocking tweaking and tuning  your timings and becoming a huge build Zoid fan   which there's nothing wrong with to be perfectly  clear but uh for most people who aren't going to   do that you want ddr5 6,000 to 6400 you want  a 32 gig kit that's 2x 16 gigs although if you   are considering doing stuff like CAD heavy photo  or video editing or anything that's going to use   up a lot of system Ram here's a good place to  also give yourself an upgrade for that purpose   in which case I would opt for a 48 gig or 64  GB kit if we sort this by price per gigabyte   we can see they're compatible kits starting  around 80 bucks and then the final character   istic I would look at if you don't want like RGB  lighting cuz RGB lighting is the thing memory can   do too but you shouldn't really buy a specific  kit just for that but then look at cast latency   uh you want the lowest value possible here that  will also affect your first word latency so you   can sort by that as well but do note that the uh  really tightly timed kits with lower cast latency   can increase the price pretty significantly so the  least expensive kits that meet all these criteria   are going to give you about 10 nond first word  latency so there's some silicon power kits down   here there's this team group group kit and you  know what for $86 uh and and it's a white Kit   so that's going to match our motherboard so we'll  go for that one about a $10 or12 savings but more   importantly we have much faster memory that's  going to have much tighter timings and that's   going to improve just about our entire Computing  experience including gaming I have more to change   with this build but I'm going to try to do this  in the right order by first attacking the power   supply down here I don't want to say attacking  but we have an sfx power supply and a fullsize   ATX build sfx power supplies cost more because  shrinking things and making them smaller in the   Tech World usually makes them more expensive  and you can still use an sfx power supply on   a full-size ATX build usually there there's a  bracket adapter or something like that but you're   kind of wasting your money on making it small so  the wattage for your power supply should be based   on your graphics card and your total system power  PC part picker gives an estimated wattage over   here based on the parts you've added to your list  but it's best to look at the GPU that you have or   the graphics card you want to get in the future  look at the minimum recommended power supply   rating for that go for that amount of wattage or  possibly 50 to 100 to maybe even 200 Watts more   if you're planning to like add a bunch of drives  to your system or other things that are going to   suck up more power 750 wats should be perfectly  adequate for the vast majority of builds we're   going to start these by price and then I'm going  to look for brand names that I've heard of before   that I'm not scared of and with apologies to  aevia and Aries game and cotep these brands do not   necessarily have the best track ratings so uh MSI  Corsair uh EVGA of course thermal take these these   are all pretty solid options the last thing you  might consider down here is the 12 plus 4 pin AKA   12 VH power or 12v 2x6 connector if you're going  to get an Nvidia graphics card a 40 series or   the 50 Series in the future I'd say definitely go  for a power supply that has one of those at least   natively at least as long as you're not paying too  much money for it that gives us the MSI mag a750g   PCI E5 look at that $70 750 watts that's like  a 100 bucks cheaper than that sfx unit I would   also consider maybe the this tough power unit  from thermal take or you know you can go up to   850 Watts with the MSI okay we' fixed this build  some we've removed some parts that were a little   bit overpriced we've increased the performance  specifically I think the memory was the biggest   upgrade and we've shaved some money off I think  we're down 100 or 150 bucks but I think we can   drop that a little bit more for people who don't  need some of the extra parts that are added here   like a 4 TB SSD nice to have definitely but it's  also 350 $ expense for most people just starting   out with a gaming build you need a 1 tbyte Drive  2 tabt is nice too so consider looking at 2 terab   options as well and we want an m.2 20280 that's  the form factor SSD and almost all these are   going to be nvme ssds which is the latest standard  here I will again sort by price per gigabyte we're   looking at about 4.4 cents per gigabyte with the  least expensive options here and those are all 2   TB drives so $90 to $100 for an entry level 2  TB drive that's probably going to be a PCI EXP   Express gen 3 ones so these aren't going to be  the fastest in terms of Maximum read and wrs or   anything like that but these will work perfectly  fine and if you're building a gaming PC your SSD   is only going to affect your load times it won't  affect your actual game performance at all among   the 2 terab drives up here I've used the team  group mp33 personally most frequently it's a   perfectly fine drive but hey let's stick to a  budget with a 1 TB Patriot P400 light and now   things are looking much more reasonable in terms  of our overall costs we're down to close to 1,400   I should note that I added the fantex XT Pro  Ultra midtower case cuz it's a $76 case that   comes with fans pre-installed and this represents  the mid-range build that I would Point most people   towards at this point in time if you're planning  to spend between 1,000 and $1,500 on a gaming PC   if you do want to bring the price down and get it  closer to the $1,200 range go with the 7600 non-x   and uh use the stock cooler and then beyond that  you'd want to look at your graphics card because   this is a 600 50 470 super and we can get that  same GPU the 470 super for less than $650 in   fact quite a few variants down here in the $600  range including Asus models like the Dual Evo   MSI Ventus 2x the 2x OC and I will also say don't  spend an extra like $40 or $50 on an OC model of   a card look at the actual overclock results here  the peak frequency is 2595 MHz on the Asus tough   gaming OC that that is only about a 100 maybe 125  Hertz boost over any of these stock cards you can   easily go in and use any GPU tuning utility to  add an extra 100 HZ or so to your graphics cards   Peak frequency and it will work with pretty much  all of these these OC models are not worth it if   you're spending a lot more money but hey if the  cheapest version is an OC like this MSI Ventus   2x OC uh then go for that for sure all right and  here is our fixed build with the 7700x coming in   at $1,357 or so and apart from having not as  much storage cuz we have 1 TB Drive instead   of the original 4 TB drive this will be a faster  system than the one that we started out with and   if we want to know how much this build would cost  with the less expensive CPU the 7600 that brings   the price down to about 12250 and that is the  version that I will save and Link down in the   video's description for anyone who's looking  to build a new gaming PC right now okay let's   move on to build too I'm going to try to do less  explaining this time and get straight to the parts   this one's from Zack W 4941 upgrading from a 5900  X system to the 9800x 3D that launches next week   so I can't exactly say here's how much this will  cost or go out and buy this we should wait until   those third party reviews come out to confirm but  given that the 7800 x3d is still the top CPU to go   for if you're building a gaming specific system  right now even after the Intel 200 series launch   it's reasonably safe to say that the 9800 100 x3d  will at least be a little bit faster Zach already   ordered and received a few parts like an azrock  Nova x870 motherboard noct to a D15 G2 cooler   64 gigs of ddr5 6400 memory a 1 TB crucial SSD a  3090 Founders Edition but I'll be uh considering   some other options there too and a very nice  case and fan configuration with fractal North   XL and noctua nf14 G2 fans as well as a bit of  an Overkill power supply with a cic prime px600   so if you looked at my 12 to 400ish do mid-range  PC and you're like I can do better than that or   I want to do better than that here's going to  be like the high-end version of that with the   current parts list adding up to $2,154 uh but do  note that that's not including the graphics card   cuz you can't buy the 390 fers Edition anymore all  right let's power through this list the 7800x 3D   as mentioned at the beginning of the video is  overpriced right now the MSRP was $450 but we   know AMD was comfortable selling these for around  $330 to $350 at least until it became so popular   that they were like well let's uh you know we got  that demand lever there going so let's just charge   more money I think that was also a response to  the Fallout with the Intel 14th gen instability   problems that kind of became a big thing late in  the summer but anyway when the 9800x 3D launches   next week we're expecting it'll probably be $450  maybe a $500 MSRP not really sure what AMD is   going to go with there but for the time being the  7800 X 3D with its current overpriced price is a   decent enough standin and by the way 430 isn't  even accurate the cheapest in stock available   one is about $477 cuz Best Buy sold out at the hot  price of $430 okay I'm actually going to come back   to the cooler on this one because we seem to have  a very intentional noctua fan setup and I don't   want to mess with that too early that said noctua  fans are expensive and you can get away with other   fans that aren't quite as pricey but let's do  stuff first like a graphics card of course I'm   also going to remove the storage now hear me out  here the the t705 is a pcie Gen 5 drive it's a   very fast nvme SSD which for certain applications  you might actually want that if you're doing a lot   of moving around of really big video files and you  really need those super fast read and write speeds   then maybe that's something you want to stick  with but I already showed you guys there are 1   tab nvme drives available for 50 bucks is another  $100 for 1 tab Drive does that makes sense to you   it makes less sense to me especially since this  isn't going to impact your gaming performance but   if you need that speed then 150 bucks for that  class of Drive isn't horrible this is also a   monstrously Overkill power supply being 1,600 WTS  and 80 plus Platinum tonic actually makes an 80   plus titanium version of this power supply that's  even more expensive than that but you really don't   need this much wattage unless you're running like  a multi-gpu workstation and it is 400 it's almost   $500 so we can save a lot of cash there let's find  an SSD again we're looking for an m. 220 280 and   let's go for a 2 TB Drive since we're looking  at a higher-end build I'm looking for something   that's a step up from like the least expensive  pcie gen 3 drives but without spending too much   more money and I think for that we actually have  these MSI spatium spatium however you pronounce   this stupid drive's name but look it's a Gen 4  drive and it actually hits Gen 4 speeds read wres   in the 7300 and 6400 megabytes per second range  respectively and it's only about like 10 or 12   bucks more than the cheapest 2 TB drives that are  out there so that seems like a good solution for   me and then of course there is the video card and  I think there's really only two choices right now   for the video card for this caliber of system you  got the 490 of course fastest gaming graphics card   currently on the market but you're going to need  to spend at least 1,800 bucks for that and hey at   least this one's actually in stock you can can add  it to cart over there on Best Buy so absolutely if   you're going all out that would be where I would  point you because you're not going to get a whole   lot of more performance going with like an 00 or  $2,000 plus version of this card the downside of   course is that we're expecting Nvidia to launch  the RTX 50 Series probably in January or maybe   January February is time frame they're probably  going to be announced at CES so that's a big   question mark how much faster will the 50 Series  be what what are the prices going to be for the   50 Series are they going to be widely available  or you going to have to pay some crazy markup   in order to get one all those things considered if  you're really ready to build a gaming PC right now   this is probably the direction I would point you  with your fallback being the RTX 480 super which   you should be able to get for about 800 bucks  cheaper there are a few models of these available   for $1,000 we're going to save ourselves 2 Cents  by going with the gigabyte windforce V2 all right   and with that I've swapped out the major parts  that I would definitely want to swap out and that   brings the price down to $2,633 but I want to go  back and revisit a few things like the motherboard   that I didn't discuss before if you're building  a new am5 system and you're looking at the   9000 Series you might consider the x870 chipset  motherboards I would not recommend a standard x870   motherboard right now I think they're just too cut  down compared to b650 and x670 x870 motherboards   are going to give you all the Dual chip chipset  connectivity that you get with x670 and x670 and   they're also going to be newer boards that support  like USB 4 and that should make them an ideal   pairing for a ryzen 9000 Series CPU I also still  consider motherboards to be about 150 to $200 for   the entry level and I still want to keep it to  like 200 to 300 maybe 350 for the mid-range so   this board being about 350 standard MSRP over on  new EG at least if it comes back in stock I think   it's a bit more reasonable in terms of the amount  of features you get without spending $500 plus   with all that said I don't like the current Amazon  price for this board of $425 and yes if you don't   need usb4 support then definitely consider x670  and x670 E motherboards that are already on the   market which you might be able to get a better  price for the last thing I might potentially   change about this build is going to be the cooling  uh I I have a lot of respect for noctua and I   really like the nhd15 and what they did with it  that said it's $150 for an air cooler and it does   perform better than like the thermalite options  that are down in the $35 to $50 range but does   it perform $100 plus better than those I would say  no in my personal opinion I don't think it's quite   worth the premium thermal right's top performing  air cooler right now is the Phantom Spirit Evo   that goes for $50 so we can swap that in and in  the same vein paying $150 for four of noct tua's   newest nf14 x25 G2 fans is a hefty premium as well  and if you're looking for noctua fan Replacements   uh there's actually quite a few out there there's  a lot that are very nice performing I was looking   for fantex d30s and you can actually get a three-  pack of those for $90 that's still $30 each and   for our power supply since we don't need 1,600  Watts uh for gaming PC build we need 850 WTS I   think is a nice sweet spot to aim for for an  RTX 4090 or 4080 super if you are going for a   4090 maybe consider bumping up to 1,000 Watts  depending on how many additional uh components   you're adding to your system it's mostly drives  beyond the CPU and GPU that might add a bit more   wattage if you do a lot of those but here again  if we're trying to stick to something that's   good bang for the buck the MSI mag a850 whatever  the 850 W version will do us just fine all right   so that brings our total price for the build down  to just over $2,500 maybe $25.50 probably my most   controversial decisions will be about the fans  uh since we are still going with a relatively   expensive fan kit and we have a three-pack instead  of four but with there being so many different fan   options out there um that's something that's still  comes down to being pretty debatable and actually   if I plug in the proper price for this motherboard  as well even though it's out of stock right now   I forced it to use that that brings the total  price down to less than $2,500 and that is for   a 7800x 3D plus RTX 480 super build with the  potential to uh upgrade that 7800 x3d to the   9800x 3D fingers crossed if and when it launches  next week and then maybe tack on an extra $800 if   you want to go with the RTX 490 over the 4080  super before I close I had a couple quick like   honorable mentions in the comment section dougl DD  asked for the least aesthetic build possible with   like all mismatching colors and static color case  fans and oh clear I don't know if I can go clear   but uh green exposed PCB Ram I like this idea I  didn't go for it this time around but I kind of   want to keep that in mind for a potential future  project and finally smooth Al asked a question   that I've been getting a lot lately which is like  what about people who don't game and yes I do want   to make builds and recommendations for people who  aren't gaming focused as well so just wanted to   let you guys know I'm not ignoring you completely  and for the time being if you're looking to build   a non-gaming system I would point you towards this  little system which is very small that I built   for my sister and uh she's been using that for  several months now I guess actually more than   half a year and it's a great little system so  I'll post a link to that in the description as   well but that's all the time I have for this  one thank you guys so much for watching this   episode of build fix and a thank you again to  PC part picker for sponsoring this series you   can find links to the parts lists and the parts  down in the description below and of course check   out my store at Paulshardware.net for highquality  merchandise t-shirts mugs pint glasses and these   new mouse mats which are super awesome if you'd  like to hit the thumbs up button that's greatly   appreciated subscribing to my channel is always a  good call too and we see you all in the next video

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