Sony Bravia 8 OLED TV Review | What Did Sony Do?

Sony Bravia 8 OLED TV Review | What Did Sony Do?

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Ever since Sony announced the Bravia  8 earlier this year—an OLED TV,   by the way—sandwiched between two mini  LED TVs, the Bravia 7 and Bravia 9,   I’ve been really curious about it. This  TV’s predecessors, most recently the A8L   and the A8K before that, have always had one  clear advantage over the competition: Sony’s   processing. But competitors like LG have done  a lot of catching up on that processing front. So now, the Bravia 8’s leg up on the LG  C-Series OLED TV isn’t quite as stark as   it has been. Still, Sony’s managed to hold  on to a very dedicated enthusiast crowd and,  

so far, has maintained a major pull with  premium buyers. My question has been:   Does the Bravia 8 deliver what those  folks want? Who should buy this TV over,   say, the LG C4? What’s it got, and what’s  it doing better than the competition? That, my friends, is exactly what this  video is all about. Let’s get into it. Welcome back, everyone. I’m Caleb Denison, and  this here is my review of the Sony Bravia 8 OLED  

TV. Now, I know a lot of you out there watching  this video already know where the Bravia 8 sits   among the other TVs you can buy. But for those  of you who don’t, here’s what you need to know. The Bravia 8 uses a standard W-OLED panel, meaning  it is not trying to be the most intensely bright   OLED on the market. Sony leaves that bragging  right for its award-winning A95 QD-OLED—a TV   which, by the way, is much more expensive than the  Bravia 8. But that doesn’t mean this TV can’t get  

impressively bright. It absolutely can. It just  means that, well, like I said, it’s not a hot   rod. And the good news there is that that means  you don’t have to spend hot-rod money to get it. Now, if we take a little tour around this  TV, you’ll notice that it doesn’t flaunt   its ultra-thin OLED panel quite like other  brands’ OLED TVs do. It’s still very thin,   but Sony gives the TV a uniformly thin  chassis rather than one that’s ultra-thin   at the top with a big bump-out  toward the bottom, like the LG C4. The TV comes with two feet that can be mounted  toward the center, thus reducing the width of   its footprint so it can fit on smaller platforms,  or out toward the edges, as I have it here. You   also have a choice of two different heights  for the feet in either of those positions:   one that slings the TV low for a very sleek look,  and one that elevates the TV, as you see here,   which allows a wide array of soundbars to fit  just in front of it without blocking the screen.

The Sony remote that comes with this TV is made  of a recycled material Sony makes called Sorplas,   which is why you see little flecks in the  finish. This particular remote uses two   AAA batteries. It’s not rechargeable.  It’s got a microphone in it for voice   control and for calibrating the TV’s  sound to sound best in your room.

Speaking of the TV’s sound, the screen on this  TV is also a speaker. See, there are a couple   of transducers mounted to the back of the panel  that allow the screen to act as a speaker, which,   paired with some bass drivers on the back of  the TV, add up to really impressive and clear   sound. On larger models, it’ll even seem like  the voices are coming from the actors’ mouths. The TV comes with two HDMI 2.1 inputs, one of  which is an eARC connection for feeding a soundbar   or AV receiver. The TV also includes an ATSC 3.0  NextGen TV tuner. Comparing that to the LG C4,   which has four HDMI 2.1 inputs but no NextGen  tuner onboard, the Bravia 8 runs on Google TV,  

which is my favorite built-in Smart TV interface  and has been customized by Sony. The LG C4,   by comparison, runs LG’s WebOS, which is fine but  definitely not my preferred Smart TV platform. Now, if you choose to augment the Bravia 8 with  a Sony soundbar—or, as I’ve done here, a Bravia   Theater Quad Dolby Atmos surround system—the  TV speakers can work as a center channel and   otherwise expand the sound in concert with either  your soundbar or something like the Theater Quad. Sony has a few other little bells and whistles  available, but that’s the most notable one. For   all the features this TV does pack in, there  are some super-nerdy ones that are curiously   not available here, as they are in other  Sony TVs. Most of you wouldn’t care and   absolutely don’t need to worry about them,  which is why I’m going to cover them in the   super-geeky section of my reviews next,  which I call “Numbers for Nit Nerds.”

Now, those of you not interested in hearing about  peak HDR nits and EOTF tracking, please skip ahead   to the next section. We’ve got time code links  down in the description. Don’t worry—I’m going   to tell you all about this TV’s picture quality  and whether you might want to buy it next. Skip   ahead if you like, but for you nit nerds out  there, we have a few things to talk about. Okay, my nit nerd friends, I’m going to run down  the measurements in a moment, but before I do,   let’s talk about some curiosities you may  have already heard about. If you happen   to follow Vincent Teoh’s HDTVTest channel, then  you already know where I’m going. If you don’t,  

no worries—I’m going to spell it all out for you. So, in Vincent’s video, he noted that this  TV was missing some deeper picture settings   and adjustment options, and he wondered  if those missing bits were restricted   just for his region or if it was a  global thing. And while he confirmed   that the Bravia 8s they sell in Japan  were also missing some setting stuff,   let me confirm for you that this is also true  for the North American versions of this TV.

First, let me spell all of that  out, and then I’ll tell you what   Sony told me about this. Then I’m going  to tell you what I think about all this. The Bravia 8 does not have a smooth gradation  slider, which on other Sony TVs allows you to   alter the strength of the algorithm that aims to  smooth out jarring transitions in color shades.   Smooth gradation is still at work in this  TV—you just can’t make adjustments to it. This TV has a 10-point white  balance calibration menu,   as opposed to the more granular 20-point  white balance that you’ll find in TVs   like the Bravia 9 and A95L. And there  is no color management system at all. Now, if you’re a professional calibrator, you  might worry that you need all the controls if   you want to calibrate a display to as close to  perfection as possible. But for most people,  

this is not an issue—not in practical terms. Now, I asked Sony why the Bravia 8 is missing  these controls that we’ve come to expect in its   TVs, and a spokesperson pointed out that, with  the controls available, this TV can be adjusted   to have both white balance and color errors with  a Delta E of less than three, which is considered   to be below the threshold of human perception.  And they are correct. As I’ll soon show you,   I got Delta E errors of less than three for white  balance and most colors after I did a calibration.

Sony did not tell me this—this is just  my read on the situation—but I think Sony   probably feels that its super-enthusiast  audience or those in professional circles   probably aren’t looking at getting a Bravia 8.  They’re likely to get a Bravia 9 or an A95L. So yeah, again, I don’t think anything meaningful  has been lost by not including these controls. I   feel comfortable acknowledging this is not a  disadvantage to Sony’s customers. But here’s   the thing, though: What advantage does  Sony gain by not including these things? I asked Sony, and they politely declined to  answer. So, I’m left to speculate. And left   to speculate, I have to think that somehow it  must reduce the cost of production. What else  

could it be? Because if it doesn’t save them  money, then why not just leave those things in? So, presuming it does save Sony money in some  way… how? I mean, frankly, I don’t know. Vincent   speculates it’s possible a co-processor chip  was omitted. However, it appears that Sony’s   processing is as effective here as it is in other  Sony TVs, at least in most meaningful areas. And along those lines, Sony did have  a comment. I’m going to paraphrase,  

but Sony essentially said that their picture  processing engine—the XR processor—evolves   year by year, and that the user interface  and specifications are optimized for each   model and panel type insofar as customer  usability and convenience are concerned.   Therefore, certain features differ  between years and between models. If that sounds like PR and  marketing speak, it’s because it is. Now, if I read between the lines  a little bit, that sounds like   processing demands for the Bravia 8 are  lower than they are for the Bravia 9,   which has a new backlight system that Sony has  likely tweaked the XR processor for, and for   the A95L, which is a QD-OLED panel that behaves  differently and needs its own special treatment. So I suppose that if the Bravia 8 had an MLA OLED  panel, it might need its own special treatment as   well. Well, anyway, I don't sense that  Sony is up to anything nefarious here,  

but I do think that the fully transparent  answer would probably get deep, deep,   deep in the weeds and would probably get  misconstrued by less savvy media. And it's   probably not worth risking the PR nightmare  of a misguided discussion out on the forums. Again, that is purely speculation. I  could be dead wrong, but I've been in  

this business a while, and that's  just what it feels like to me. In the end, though, does any of  that really matter? I'm going to   say no—it doesn't matter to 99.999% of  humans on this planet. What does matter   is how the TV performs, so let's  move on to that bit of business.

To conduct my measuring, I placed the Bravia 8  in Professional Mode for both SDR and HDR. When   I subjectively evaluated the TV with Dolby  Vision content, I used Dolby Vision Dark.   In Professional SDR Mode, with the default  settings—which importantly has the brightness   set to 40 and, more importantly, the peak  brightness setting set to off—here's what I got: Peak luminance was 100 nits, so a very  strict adherence to SDR standards,   which is what I would expect for a Professional  Mode. The two-point white balance—well,   this is a little odd. I know Sony  doesn't always target exact D65,  

but the blue channel at just 100 nits seems  really off here. That is easily calibrated   out using the white balance controls,  but still, I kind of find this odd. 20-point grayscale: we see that the blue  channel is hot all the way up the chain,   which is really interesting.  Color balance is okay,   but not what I expect from Sony. You know  what? Now I want to check the Cinema Mode. So, in the default Cinema  Mode, brightness is maxed out,   and the peak luminance setting is  on Medium. What have we here? Well,   better in some ways and worse in others. I'm  seeing a lower error at the very brightest white,  

but it's more off through the top half of the  grayscale, which again seems kind of weird. Let's go to Professional Mode and  just max everything out. Actually,   this is how I had the TV set up most of  the time that I was watching SDR content:   Professional Mode, brightness maxed out, and  peak luminance setting at High. And in some ways,   it's better, but in others, more  of the same. The factory tuning   just leans way cooler than I would have  expected. I presume this was intentional. Overall, though, it's a pretty marginal  difference from everything else. Now,  

let's mess with the color temperature.  Wait—this is supposed to be Warm? No,   this cannot be right. Warm is way colder  than the Expert 1 and Expert 2 settings. Now, this will be much more relevant in  just a second, but in just 10 minutes,   I was able to make adjustments to the white  balance to get everything below a Delta E of 2. Let's move on. Once again, credit goes to Vincent for making this  next part much easier for me. As you can see here,   the EOTF tracking with the peak brightness  setting at High—which is default for the HDR   Professional Mode—we can see that the  tracking is off in a couple of places:   not bright enough in most of the low  end and a little too bright right up   in the top end. But still, this  is very un-Sony-like, honestly.

Now, if we bump the peak brightness setting down  to Medium, the EOTF tracking is spot-on. However,   look at what happened to peak  HDR brightness as a result:   it went down significantly—like  half as many nits, 480 versus 960. Now, I'm okay if a TV brand wants to offer an  over-brightened HDR setting. Frankly, most people   find that approach easier to watch. But  that's not what I think most folks are   expecting out of Sony's Professional Mode,  and I don't think that folks should have to   decide between having accurate HDR tracking  and having full HDR brightness capability. It's just not a compromise that Sony  has asked anyone to make in the past,   and I don't understand why we'd be asked to  accept it now. Unless, again, Sony is reading  

its audience and knows this is not going to bother  the vast majority of the folks who buy this TV. Okay, but again, what advantage does Sony gain  by going this way? It's got to be cost savings,   right? I don't know. I think that this  might just have to remain a mystery. Look, that was a lot, so let me break it  down to my key takeaway. This is just really  

not an enthusiast TV. Not only is it missing  those typical granular calibration controls,   but the white balance and grayscale  are further afield than I'd expect. As I've shown you, it can be corrected  very well, but if you're looking   for Sony's historically excellent out-of-the-box  accuracy, my unit, at least, didn't have it. Also,   seeing it track so low on the EOTF with the  peak brightness set to High is just really odd.

For those of you who skipped ahead, here's  the TL;DR from the nit nerd section:   With the peak brightness setting at High and  the brightness maxed out, you will get a very   enjoyable—if not technically dead-on-balls  (that's an industry term)—accurate one. If you do want very accurate HDR tracking, the  trade-off is a fair amount of brightness. Most   of you are going to be thrilled with this TV's HDR  performance, though, as it can get very punchy in   bright highlights, and it generally makes all  the content that you play on it look amazing.

The Bravia 8 is a great OLED TV. It has excellent  upscaling and image cleanup capabilities,   making it an ideal choice for folks who watch a  lot of cable or live TV streaming services like   YouTube TV, Sling TV, or Fubo TV. It's just  got a super clean picture like 95% of the time. The color isn't just accurate—it's  gorgeous. I mean, folks, it's an OLED TV,   which starts you at a baseline  of awesome, and it also happens   to be an excellent example of an OLED TV,  thanks to Sony's outstanding processing. Actually, you know what? I've got it.  Let me share a quick personal story. So,  

I have a friend—we'll call him Pete, because  that's his actual name. Pete's a sax player   I work with a lot, and he's also a golf buddy.  So, Pete asks me for advice on what TV to buy. And, folks, when I give people advice on  buying a specific TV, it involves a lot   of me asking a lot of questions because what  I would recommend depends entirely on a long   list of someone's specific needs and priorities.  Anyway, we end up whittling it down to the LG C3   OLED. I wanted him to get the Sony A8L, but  the C3 was just a better deal at the time.

The C3 was at a price right  at the max of his budget,   so if he was going to get an OLED, it was  going to be the LG C3. Anyway, Pete got it,   and, folks, he loves it. The only thing he  doesn't like is LG's incessant app updates,   which I warned him would be a thing. But he  is just in love with the picture quality. Why? Well, he's never had an OLED before,   and his feedback reminded me that OLED  TVs are a mind-blowing treat for the eyes.

The Bravia 8 is going to be a mind-blowing  treat for your eyes. Yes, there are brighter   hot rod OLED TVs, and mini LED TVs can get  a lot brighter, but when you start from   perfect black and there are no backlight  anomalies, you are going to be dazzled. I enjoyed watching the Bravia 8 a lot. And I  have the world's best TVs right here. I could   choose to watch any of them, but I never felt  the need to take the Bravia 8 down and, say,   put the Z95 A up because the Bravia 8 is lovely. If you're looking at getting your first  OLED or even replacing an OLED that's,   like, four or five years or older, the Bravia  8 is absolutely worth considering. Honestly,  

I think the question is not a matter of whether  this TV is worth buying—it absolutely is. The   question is whether you should spend more  to buy this TV as opposed to an LG C4 OLED. So, let's talk about that. At the 65-inch size, the Sony Bravia 8  here is about $200 more than the LG C4. So,   what's the difference between the two? Does  the Bravia 8 earn that extra 200 bucks? Well,   as I said earlier, the LG C4 has four HDMI  2.1 inputs, while the Bravia 8 has just two,  

and one of them is taken up  with the eARC functionality. So, I suppose if you have both the Xbox  Series X and one of the PlayStation 5s,   or a gaming PC, and you want to use your eARC  to get audio to your soundbar or receiver as   well—that’s your particular setup—well,  then the LG C4 is probably the better   choice for you. Most folks aren't  running that kind of system, though. Anyway, the Sony has an ATSC 3.0 tuner,   whereas the LG C4 does not. Does that sway you?  I suspect it is not going to sway a lot of you. The Bravia 8 has a standard remote as  opposed to LG's Magic Motion remote,   and the Sony runs Google TV as opposed to LG's  WebOS. I know which I prefer. What about you? I mean, I'm a fan of the LG C4, and I'd  be quite thrilled to own one. But if I'm  

spending my own money, would I spend an  extra $200 for a 65-inch Bravia 8? Yeah,   I would because of the better sound, the Google  TV, and a remote that doesn't drive me crazy. I think that extra 200 bucks is going to break   down to maybe an extra four bucks per  month over the course of four years,   which is about as long as I can keep a TV  before upgrade-itis is going to set in. I mean, transparently, I'm a top-tier OLED kind  of person when it comes to my living room. Anyway,   if I'm buying an OLED TV, I'm probably going to  save up a little longer to get the Sony A95L,   the LG G4, the Samsung S905D,  or, frankly, the Panasonic Z95A.

The Panasonic Z95A has really captured my heart,   even though I hate Amazon Fire TV.  That TV is just... it's so great. Or, if I'm going big, I'm  going for a huge mini LED TV. The Bravia 8 is a solid and, frankly, lovely OLED   TV. It gets a full recommendation from me  for most viewers but not for enthusiasts.

I already told you it's a great TV. The  question is: Is it the right TV for you?   Hopefully, I've helped you arrive  at that decision in this review. Thanks so much for watching, everyone!  This is probably going to be the last TV   review that I publish in 2024, so with that,  I want to wish you all a very Happy New Year.

Be sure to subscribe if you aren't  subscribed because the CES content   I'm going to put out soon is going to  be awesome. You do not want to miss it. Slap a thumbs-up on this video if you liked  it so more folks can see it. I'll see you all   on the next one, and until then, here are  two other videos I think you might like.

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