SATELLITE 2021: The Space Gal, Emily Calandrelli, chats with Maxar CEO Dan Jablonsky.

SATELLITE 2021: The Space Gal, Emily Calandrelli, chats with Maxar CEO Dan Jablonsky.

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the satellite team and i are very happy to host all of you for our opening day afternoon keynote sponsored by maxar technologies we'd like to thank the maxar team for working with us to make this afternoon's presentation possible maxar has been a long time support of the satellite event i still vividly remember the company outlining its ambitious vision for its then newly established brand back at satellite 2017. in just four years the company has grown into a world leading provider of satellite data helping global businesses and more than 50 governments monitor global change deliver broadband communications and advance space operations with capabilities in space infrastructure and earth intelligence we have the exciting opportunity this afternoon to hear from maxar president and ceo dan jablonski he will provide insight on the future of space innovation from the perspective of a company that operates at the center of numerous satellite supply chains prior to his appointment as maxar's chief executive in 2019 mr jablonski served as president of digital globe until october 2017 when the company became part of maxar a formal a former u.s naval officer and legal counsel he holds a bachelor of science in mechanical engineering from the united states naval academy and a juris doctor degree from the university of washington school of law interviewing mr jablonski this afternoon is another very special guest emily calandrelli host of netflix's emily's wonderlab and producer and host of exploration outer space a nationally syndicated educational tv show on fox networks that gives viewers a front row seat to some of the most exciting projects in the space industry today you're all in for a real treat this afternoon i hope you're as excited about this as i am i will now happily step aside and welcome to the stage emily callendrelli and our opening keynote speaker maxar president and ceo dan jablonski [Music] 2 minus 15 seconds 5 4 3 2 1 0 ignition and lift off [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] thank you so much for coming my name is emily kellendrelli also known as the space gal online and today i'm joined by dan jablonski who's been at the helm of maxar for the last three years and this is how this is going to work i'm going to start by giving a general overview of maxar which i think will be useful especially for some of the younger professionals in the audience today and maybe for some of us who aren't totally familiar with all of the work that maxar has been doing and then i have some questions for dan that i'll be asking but then after that we want to hear from you all so audience questions will work by going to slido.com and entering the code maxar you can enter your own audience questions there or just upvote um some of the other questions that you see from the audience and then at the end we'll ask some of the more popular questions but for those of us who may be unfamiliar in space maxar's commercial space satellites have been connecting the world for the last 50 years if you watched the olympics this summer chances are that digital signal was carried by a maxar built communications satellite if you like me use in-flight wi-fi on your flight here or if you listen to satellite radio on your way to the satellite conference you probably also relied on a maxar satellite now maxar's commercial space technology is also used in government missions earlier this year they delivered the psyche spacecraft to nasa which will be launched next year to explore a metal-rich asteroid they're also building the power and propulsion element for nasa's lunar gateway and this last fact is one that i personally did not know but it is so cool they built all six of the robotic arms that have been used on mars which is just a very cool fact for any company to claim now the other side of maxar's business is earth intelligence they were the first company to commercialize high-resolution satellite imagery and that imagery is used in many ways today it's used to power consumer map applications it's used to support military and intelligence missions for more than 50 nations and it's used to provide critical data for global events like natural disasters or human rights abuses now one billion people daily a billion with a b interact with max our satellite imagery whether you're checking a trail head or hailing a ride share or simply watching a news broadcast one of the latest projects that maxar has been working on is something called world legion a set of six imaging satellites that will provide a brand new way for max our customers to see the world with more frequent passes through the earth and incredible accuracy and resolution now i am very pleased today to be joined by dan jablonski who's been at the helm of maxar as i said for the last three years dan started his career as a surface warfare officer and a nuclear engineer in the u.s navy he became a

lawyer and practiced practiced corporate and securities law which led him to digital globe where he was general counsel and became president and digital globe became part of maxar in 2017. so again i have a few questions that i want to ask dan but please submit your questions through slido.com using the code maxar so i've talked a lot so it's your turn dan i want to start by asking you about the space industry as a whole which we've all seen flourish over the last decade or so and last year there was a record set with 8.9 billion dollars of private investment invested in space companies worldwide what trends do you think are driving this i think there are two really big things going on one is the the rapid advances in the commercialization of space a lot of that's been brought down by price points launch costs have come down dramatically that's in large part due to the new entrance and the new technologies being developed the other big trend is the uh the rapid advancement of the strategic importance of space so as uh peer and i don't want to call them near pier threats but but pier and near pier countries um challenge the you know what had been sort of a two or three nation maybe five nation you know sort of uh use of space strategically it's now the space force is a perfect example of why this is important but it's being thought of as a national security priority and as a national security priority there's a lot of government investment going into that and a lot of the commercial companies being you know started and taking advantage of that are to take advantage of the the government opportunity as well so uh exciting times lots of money coming in and i think that's just fantastic for those of us that are in space and working with space companies and and provides a tremendous amount of opportunity for all of us now max our civil space business particularly with nasa has really taken off in the last few years how did a company with purely commercial dna evolve to compete with the lockheeds of the world and serve these new customers you know uh well we do have a lot of history on the nasa side we were back in when it was ford aerospace before it became ssl there were you have some heritage all the way back to the lunar landings the last time we did them um but but uh nasa has been working and and this is kind of fun too we can talk about contract theory and contract themes but nasa started working on some programs where they said hey it'd be great if industry came to us with their solutions instead of us just drawing something up and telling industry what to build it would be fantastic if we could ask industry how they might solve a problem and uh so one of the first elements that they were working on was the the artemis program and the lunar gateway and they put out a set of bids and proposals for how would you solve the problem to provide power and propulsion and communications so ppe power proposed an element for this lunar gateway that's going to be out in a cis lunar environment so not not in a low earth orbit rotating around the earth like the the international space station but out in the cis lunar environment uh to be able to support the next phase of sustained lunar operations on the moon with humans so the the first woman and the next man on the moon and um maxar took commercial technology that we had developed for the geocommunications satellite market um in particular our 1300 class bus which is uh sort of a you know f-150 type chassis for commercialization industrialization of space and we uh designed a the power propulsion communications element for the lunar gateway systems and uh and bid it based on how we would practice commercial terms commercial manufacturing and commercial technologies and engineering for this and i think nasa was very pleased with the the type of design we created uh certainly very pleased with the price point and to date we've made it through a preliminary design reviews and we're headed you know very deep into the program now and you know stellar check marks along the way from nasa so you know kudos to nasa for taking a chance on us on something like this and uh it's a really exciting part of now max are being able to demonstrate our ability to to take a commercial technology and and purpose it for something as important as the artist part of his missions and that is something that i am personally very excited about the artist program is going to be great now in the area of government space programs in general where do maxar's priorities lie uh well we we are participatory in a number of government programs so not just the ppe program for nasa but we're doing psyche which is the uh i think part of it ran on the clip there but the exploration of a very large uh 200 kilometer what we believe is an all-metal asteroid on the asteroid belt and it's it's massive it takes it if you calculated its mass it takes up about one percent of what the asteroid belt looks like and um so that's a mission uh we can talk a little bit about the you know proposing to get there at some point um we're doing you know the robotic arms for mars and uh things like osam putting hosted payloads on an intelsat satellite to do pollution monitoring of the earth from geo for north america but beyond that we're doing the worldview legion program which our largest customers the national reconnaissance office for these low earth orbit imaging satellites that really you know power things like google maps and other underlying other types of satellite technology we use in mapping and location-based applications and so we've got a long history there uh we're working very very hard to also demonstrate our capabilities for other uh thing entities like space force uh the air force the national reconnaissance office where we've got a lot of great heritage on the space side a lot of good quality and demonstrated results and we think we can bring those into the national security environment as well now the united states has been leading the way in the space industry since for well most of the space age but today in the era of globalization where parts can be bought and assembled really anywhere is a preeminent u.s space industrial base still essential i think it's really important that we have lots of different industrial bases and lots of different supply chains operating you know as we you know as a world society do things like the commercialization of space and other things but i think we also learned an awful lot during uh something like like covid which we're all still dealing with them you know we've been wearing masks all day for example here in the area and and that is that it's if you're going to uh achieve certain strategic and national objectives you should really understand your supply chain uh the there's a lot of attention on the medical supply chain the pharmaceutical supply chain uh silicon chips where those are made and manufactured and how they're designed and i think on space as well so the defense and industrial base and uh maxwell's very proud to be you know doing a lot of work and strategic thinking with our customers along those lines um we certainly certainly do supply chain things around the world but there are certain critical items that we think are really important to be able to have continuity for what we do here it's about the trust factor and the resilience and the reliability of what you're doing now aside from just spending more money what can the us especially the government be doing to support the commercial space industry i think one of the most important things is is helping companies like maxar understand where the u.s would like to go and what they would like to achieve so that when we're when we're spending our hard-earned uh you know research and development dollars when we're thinking about the technologies that are important to develop um if we understand what some of the strategic objectives are and some of the technologies or capabilities that would be important we can think about how to not just design but to scale and manufacture into those types of environments so you know sometimes it's not the hardest thing in the world to actually design something that's fit for purpose what's harder is to then do it you know the first time for real uh as a manufacturing and then a launch operation uh and then to do it a hundred times over and do it reliably and with a predictable level so is the us government kind of like the ppe program lets us you know into their thinking a little bit more industry industry is really smart i mean we'll we'll respond we will think ahead we'll we'll put people to work on research and development projects to be able to hit those objectives that the us government's laid out and we'll probably do it at a really probably a faster pace than people thought might be possible in a very effective price point now on the earth intelligence side of max rs business you all have provided high resolution satellite imagery to government customers customers for many years now but how would you say the national security landscape is changing and how does that inform the way you all build and operate space systems i i think they're they're two big trends one is omnipresence so it used to be um maybe there was a government satellite or maybe there were a couple of commercial satellites and you kind of knew where they would be and when they would be and it's not being the case anymore it's becoming a more omnipresent environment all weather all time lots of passes a day and worldview legion contributes to that we'll be able to pass any point on the planet up to 15 times a day with with very high resolution imagery very accurate imagery so that means we can then take that data and do something like create 3d models of entire metro areas overnight um the so omnipresence is one the other is speed uh speed to uh what happens so kind of a fun fact when the first government satellites were used to take pictures of the earth they used film and that's the corona program and you had to drop the canister and a plane picked it up and you know with a parachute drogue and then they had to go develop the film and then they got you know satellite photos and you know you can imagine that's not milliseconds right um we're now starting to operate with defense customers on on minutes and seconds timelines and what that means is that from this the data being sensed by something like a satellite to when operators would like to have that inside their decision making loop they're looking for very uh in theater fast timelines for that sensor to decision making and to be able to do that requires an enormous amount of uh there's some big trends going in our favor right supercomputing cloud enabled environments data links and data relays and the ability to process information to spin up more gpus or or the computing power that's actually on a satellite for example and that allows decisions to be made much more quickly it allows us to do things like artificial intelligence applications machine learning uh to be able to identify objects to be able to geo position them any place in the world even without gps as a reference very quickly and then to allow the people that need to make decisions with that information to make it so we're taking things that used to be much much longer and much more you know sort of one event issues creating entire global coverage for that and shrinking the timelines now so worldview legion is a cornerstone program for maxar but it's had some delays can you give us an update on how that program is coming along yeah and um this is an amazing program it's uh six satellites a world class maxar for many years has been the leading uh commercial earth observation company across the world worldview legion helps us extend that lead and there are six world-class satellites that will be launched start launching in the spring of next year spring summer march to june time frame and um you know it's kind of like any space program where you're doing something that nobody's done before at this level and at this scale uh sometimes things take a little bit longer than i certainly would like and um but that's okay we're you know part of maxar's trademark is that we do things right and we want to make sure that as we do the development program uh get the satellites all the way through their their construction and and testing and then launch phase that you know these are these are 10-year plus assets for the company and for our customers and they perform critical national security as well as commercial missions for all of our many customers across the world and we need to make sure we get it right and so we're taking a little more time to do that um we've got world-class instruments now from raytheon the first one's been delivered we'll be going into thermal vac very soon and chris johnson who we recently recently hired in this team gave me lots of great updates on how the program's going and i feel some very capable hands with the team so with legion you're going to increase your imaging capacity and like you said you'll have more frequent visits at various places around the earth can you paint a picture of what this actually means for the users of this imagery yeah so you know kind of and there there's been this this trend towards you know more imagery and better imagery and better and better data and high definition type data what it means is that as this this this scale is has increased of that type of data and the frequency with which we can collect that data you can start to model that data into applications at a much faster rate in a more worldwide solution oriented way so one of the things we do is we take that that type of data lots of different shots from a satellite not not just stereo collect pairs which had been the traditional method we take lots and lots of different shots and because of software that that our company has developed and the types of machine learning and artificial intelligence that have gone into that software we can create photorealistic 3d models of all that data at a really rapid clip at country-wide scale and it's not just a pretty picture laid on 3d it's really really accurate so you can then create uh derivatives of that data or sometimes even inputs to the what the 3d model looks like like 3d point clouds and then with a 3d point cloud you can take any other type of data set it could be signals it could be radar it could be aerial or drones your husband works with andrew right so you could take that type of data and you can immediately start to geoposition it into a bigger picture to be able to understand a much larger scale problem really really really quickly which is important to people that have to make life and death decisions yeah man that sounds just so futuristic and sci-fi can you talk a little bit more about delays in how covid might have impacted your business i am sure it's impacted everybody's life and business here but how has it impacted max r yeah kovitz sucks every time you think you're like turning a corner at kind of delta variant or something like that yeah so we we have about five thousand employees at maxar and uh throughout the entire uh you know covid situation we have had between a quarter and a third of our people that never stop coming into work they build satellites they build robotics they do critical national uh government missions they fly our satellites 24 7 in our mission operations centers they do classified data handling some of them go out to customer sites and do that same type of activity and and for those people we've been uh you know we a lot of extra precautions so you know we we masked up very early we started doing all the medical precautions and following procedures and stuff and that that that got us through you know we we continue to operate our business 100 fully functionally never missed customer obligations the entire way through um some stuff takes a little bit longer though um the the rest of the employees over a 48-hour period all went home and worked on zoom cameras and other microsoft teams and other things like that to be able to continue working for the company's objectives and uh i mean you and i have talked about this but uh it takes a little bit longer a whiteboard session doesn't go quite as quickly or smoothly when you're a software design team on the zoom cameras as it does when you get people in a conference room so we're excited to be kind of slowly migrating back towards our businesses we thought we were on a time frame to be a little bit closer this summer but um we're we're taking things you know at the right pace for our company and our customers and for our employees of them their safety and the safety of them and their families is of maximum importance to us so you know i think the the long and short of it is stuff has just taken a little bit longer and it's been less comfortable to operate yes and hopefully in a year or so we will be on the other side gosh i hope so you know we've we've got a really high vaccination rate in our company and we're really proud of that and it's it's helping us to manage the situation yeah i bet now i'm curious to hear your thoughts on building the workforce of the next generation because now space companies are competing for talent they're competing for developers and data scientists and engineers with a lot of other companies especially in the bay area so what is maxar doing to help attract and retain especially diverse talent and i should say i have many friends that work at maxar and they're all very happy about working at max r and people are pretty honest with me about whether or not they like working at their space companies um so it's nice to hear that they like working at macstar so what are you guys doing and how can everybody replicate that and if you ever run into anybody that's not happy where they're working please give them a max our card and we're hiring people we're hiring you know so one of the things that i i think is near and dear to your heart is we we do things like the brooks owens uh fellowship the scholarships which is a fantastic uh for those of you that aren't familiar it's a fantastic program for women in stem uh some of the the brightest uh uh interns we've had have come through that program and we've sponsored six of brooks owens fellowships now and two the two of them are now max our employees full time we're really excited about um we also we're very intentional about the types of diverse pools of applicants uh we we spend time with and our intern program which the last two years running uh has been the most diverse sets of interns programs we've had across the company we have about 130 interns a year that come through paid internships if any of you out in the audience uh the stem programs are looking for work um and and so we're intentional about the the workforce coming in uh we're also really intentional about thinking about being a inclusive belonging environment because if if you come from a background where you know maybe your family wasn't you know all mit doctors and uh scientists going back in in history but you you want to get someplace you want to feel like you're it's inclusive and that you belong and we're trying to make sure we create that kind of environment max are and so we're we're continuing our outreach efforts we're working with harristow state university in st louis uh a loca we have offices there so a local historically black college university we're working with women and kids and minorities and stem programs and what i found is that when you start to make just a little bit of extra effort to help our team members the max rt members take advantage of the opportunities they're way smarter than any of us on the executive team could ever be about about deploying resources getting to the right programs helping their communities increase the level of science and technology in these underserved areas we're really excited about it and as we look at the workforce of the future it's going to be you know a lot different than the one that we've inherited yeah absolutely and just to mention a little bit more about the brooke owens fellowship this is a fellowship for anybody in the audience who may be in undergrad it's for women and non-binary students who want to work in the aerospace industry we match you with paid internships at literally the top aerospace companies in the world you get matched with an executive mentor like ceos and astronauts and you have a summer summit where you get to meet all the other brookies and it really is changing what the industry looks like and just making it a bit more welcoming for everyone so absolutely check that out so i think now is a good time for us to check those audience questions so remember to go to slidojob and use the code maxar and we'll see which ones are the most popular okay all right i see you all have voted on many of these this is great so let me oh boy so we did this at my all hands we we have questions come in which one everyone's got the up votes what even how hard the question is those are the ones i take so we thought we'd let's see here's this format here i'm trying to get back into it let me just see if oh audience q a okay here we go so what future do you see for providing commercial buses for nasa deep space missions any hope of a nuclear maxar platform any thoughts as a former nuclear engineer so we we talked about the psyche mission as an example and so that the psyche mission is is sending a spacecraft that maxar's built out to you know working with nasa jpl to go out and explore an asteroid that's in deep space so we're going to launch in 2022 we're going to catch a bit of a slingshot past mars and then by 2026 we're going to get out to the asteroid and start doing imaging and magnet interferometers and all kinds of other types of measurements out by the satellite but that's a long time right 2022 to 2026 and as you think about mars exploration or you think about the time and distance between just even the moon you know it'd be really fun to be able to position stuff around at the this rate at which we industrialize other things so i'm not sure if it's nuclear propulsion or if it's other things and the existing technology right now is you know it's either by profits chem or it's a solar electric propulsion which is what the psyche mission will have and that's what allows it to go these very very long distances on one tank of gas i do think that in order to really industrialize space the way we want to that we're going to have to spend a lot of time and energy and r d efforts on the propulsion side of it nuclear is certainly one of the things that that maxar is exploring and thinking about and the us government's also spending quite a bit of time and energy at that level as well um we'd like to be able to get to places like mars and back again without being a lot a lot older from the time of which we left yeah that would be nice it seems like there's a lot of feelings when the word nuclear is brought up that may not be based in scientific accuracy do you feel pushback when you bring up nuclear power we haven't really felt it at all i think it you know it's kind of like anything any technology that you're going to harness it should be it should be safe it should be reliable and it should be cost effective and if you can hit those three things and it you know and then it should do what it's supposed to do right that that that's what we're pushing towards um but i think as we you know you solve the problems at the distances and the vast expanses of what you're trying to do in space we'll keep looking at different types of technologies for propulsion all right so also from anonymous is maxar developing leo satellites or only geo satellites uh we definitely do both and everything in between uh so the the we are the world leader making geocommunication satellites and we're very proud of that heritage and we launched uh in commission sirius xm8 a couple of months ago um and we've just we're finishing up right now star one d2 for embertel uh very proud of that heritage um our uh earth imaging constellations that we fly ourselves are actually low earth orbiting imaging constellation right like these circle the planet every 94 minutes 17 000 kilometers an hour and uh so we've got a lot a lot of heritage there maxar has been um certainly speaking with a lot of our customers and doing paid studies to develop uh low earth orbit uh telecommunications constellations as well and so we're deep in that and even some stuff in between geo and leo all right this one uh from anonymous what roadblocks do you see on the road towards the commercialization of space i think i i i wouldn't call it a roadblock i'd call it a a mental uh thought um patience uh some of the things that we're undertaking are are not you know just sort of like flipping a light switch and having something easy so there's definitely an amount an amount of patience that's going to be required to see some of these things through and sometimes you have failures before you have the successes that you want to achieve and uh that's that's been the same for any industry that's that's revolutionizing and pioneering something and that's the truth that's the same with space so i you know lack of patience would be the one i'd be you know most worried about part probably partnered with over exuberance sometimes because something is an exciting field uh if you you know over promise something and then it doesn't deliver the lack of patience kind of the corollary to that action and reaction that's what happens in space and so i worry about those two things um but i'd rather see a lot more excitement and over exuberance than i would see people not trying things and and not daring to fail maxar has worked with many different launch providers which new launch provider are you and maxar most excited to work with uh so we we were just at another uh event and we got to talk to a lot of launch providers we've we've certainly had customers launch on our own space we've had customers launch on spacex we're launching our legion constellation on spacex we've worked very closely with ula in the past those are sort of the traditionals right we're excited to see blue origins capabilities come online we're really excited about uh uh you know rocket lab and some of the other companies that are coming up um before we start putting some of our own stuff on it we'll probably want to see a few more successful flights in a row um but we're really excited you know something you take take the legion satellite for example it's you know in the 800 kilogram class so we can be very versatile with a payload like that depending on what the launch system can handle and if we want to target a specific orbit then it can be a lot more economical decision for maxar to be able to pinpoint where we want a satellite and you know not use something that has an awful lot of excess delta v than what we need to get there okay does maxar have any plans to develop satellites to image the moon or any other planets um we have been approached and looking at a lot of things like that uh part of it for us is we still have to make money we've got investors we're a publicly traded company and so when we spend our r d dollars we do so very judiciously and when we go into a business case we look for the returns that we can get for our investors as we do part of that the earth observation part of the business has been very very good for maxar as is the space business so when we go into something like that we'll look at it very closely and figure out who the customers are what the business plan of the business case looks like one of the things that i think is interesting about the moon when you get there and you want to navigate around it there are no gps systems right like there's no gps constellation around the moon so if you want to do precision timing navigation those kinds of things you're going to need to build models or have different infrastructure to allow the systems and the moon bases and the exploration vehicles that people want to use when you get there and we're looking at parts of what that might be as well so if somebody's willing to pay for it yeah yeah he'd be willing to do it the space industry is typically slow moving what are your thoughts on that and how can we increase the pace of technology adoption in the space industry i i don't know that it's typically that slow um i think you know you could kind of go through peaks and valleys depending on what the opportunity sets are it feels really really fast right now um i think they're like 140 plus launch companies for example that they're having a fast pace of innovation and technological development um the uh the thing that drives it the most is i think opportunity and uh the ability to you know to perform a mission set and we're we're doing a lot of cutting-edge stuff inside our company we're watching a lot of our partners do the same sorts of things it's a really exciting time to be in space uh star trek or star wars oh man i'm a star wars kid i know that like half the crowd just went out that's like marvel and um yeah yeah dc right yeah yeah where one's clearly better than the other definitely i thought the plot the plot lines are way better in star trek but i was like eight when lightsabers came out and everything was a lightsaber you know yeah star wars land in disney pretty good pretty good it's pretty good you can go down there just for an afternoon oh i just moved to like 15 minutes away from disneyland so yeah that's in my future what are the most significant challenges maxar is facing in today's environment just a little bit of a turn oh man um the war for talent is is absolutely one of them um you can't do great things you can't achieve awesome things as a team and as a as a for your customers and your mission partners without having the right people to do it the right leaders the right engineers the right developers the right uh critical thinkers and so that we spent an awful lot of time talking about how we're going to nurture and attract and hire in the best possible people that we can that's that's the number one challenge right now and i think this should probably be the last question let's see maybe a couple more what do you think are the near-term prospects for satellite servicing is max are doing anything to make their spacecraft forward compatible with servicing we're really excited about on-orbit servicing um you know part of the reason you put additional cost and testing and everything into a space vehicle is because you expect it to last for 10 plus years some 15 plus years and these are really big expensive capital assets if you had this building for example the gaylord and you said hey it's only going to last for 10 years you would treat this building differently than if you said it's a 30 to 40 or 50 year asset so we're we're working on the osam mission the on orbit servicing assembly mission where we're going to go up and prove uh with a max our built spacecraft that you can using robots do minor surgery on something like landsat uh refuel a spacecraft that was not designed to be refueled and prove that we can do that on orbit so where that mission launches in about i think 18-ish months time frame and we're really excited about that um we are absolutely designing into our spacecraft now the ability to uh because the last thing you do with the spacecraft before you launch it anyway is you fuel it right you don't you know you don't fuel it and then start shipping it around and everything like that putting on airplanes the last thing you do before you launch is you so it should be relatively easy to and we've got to work as an industry on standardizations for this but what would a refueling probe size be that's standardized across all industry what would a grapple be because if you're going to go up and you're going to refuel something you can't you know you got to actually grab it first and it'd be nice to be able to grab it with a standardized size before you put a refueling probe on the spacecraft yeah for this one we're going to have to do minor surgery like cut past the shield uh undo some wires undo some nuts and stuff and then get into a place where we can uh refill all with robots yeah running scripts with uh artificial intelligence on them so kind of fun all right now this is the last question what advice would would you give to allow someone to stand out when applying for their first aerospace job uh well beyond have good grades um i i'd say the the most important would be uh come as you are we're we're really excited about working with people that are innovative and thinking and aren't trying to you know act like someone uh that they think they want they think we want yeah show up as you are you're way more interesting to us when you're when you're who you are uh when you're interesting in your own right and you're in your own you know your own personal persona so we're really excited about that we've got a lot of amazing people we get to work with and the stories they do and the things they do in their off time and they're on time and that's we're looking for a lot more of that well dan thank you so much for your time today you have many hats of being an engineer and a lawyer and your feet in both the military and defense and also the commercial civil space and all everything in between so thank you for sharing your insights about maxar and about the space industry as a whole well thank you so much for your time as well really really pleased to do this thanks absolutely and thank you all for joining i have thank you thank you the conference organizers have asked me to remind you to join us back here tomorrow at 8 30 in the morning for day two opening keynote speaker mr sunil bardi matal chair of barty enterprises and oneweb followed by the opening general session the future of satellite connectivity so thank you all and i hope you have a great night [Applause] [Music]

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