[Music] [Music] camera 10122 what an incredible experience to meet such an incredibly brilliant man as mishio Kaku he's a a professor at New York University but one of the fathers of the theoretical physics concept called string theory mind-blowing stuff he acknowledges the reality of the phenomenon in a way that very few scientists are prepared to do publicly Professor Kaku the debunkers the the Skeptics they say there is no evidence of anomalous phenomena that really the the gimbal the goast the Tic Tac videos they don't prove anything what do you say to that I'm a physicist we live and die with the data we go where the data goes even if we have to be drag Kicking and Screaming into areas that we feel uncomfortable with we go where the data goes and the gold standard the gold standard for the data is multiple sightings by multiple modes now think about that throughout history people would say look look Martha look I see something up there well maybe you did or maybe you didn't that is not reproducible and it's only you and perhaps you were drunk that day or perhaps you really did encounter something it's not conclusive what we need is multiple sightings by multiple modes meaning more than one person has seen something up there independently verified it with multiple modes that is radar infrared sensors Optical sensors multiple ways in which we can then triangulate and then give you the data of what was up there and that's why those US Navy sightings from firstly 2004 and more recently right through to the present day are so important because they're getting multiple data on different platforms the recent pressure by Congress on the military has forced the military to own up to the fact that it's sitting on hours hours of videotapes of something that is up there in the sky and that many of the military men who've seen these things were told not to make waves don't make waves if you want to like make sure that your career is on the right track and so now the floodgates are being open in other words the burden of proof is now shifting it used to be that the burden of proof was on the individual to prove that there was something up there and that he wasn't drunk now the burden of proof is on the military to prove that these objects aren't extraterrestrial what do you say that though why do you say that the burden of proof is reversed I mean your detractors have suggested you're going a bit far there why do you say that we go where the data goes and the data goes in the direction of s we follow the data and the data indicates that something is out there that can be tracked by radar infrared centers tracked optically that can travel between Mach 5 five times the speed of sound up to mach 20 now think about that for a moment up to mach 20 this is far beyond commercial aircraft and yet here we have sightings that can be triangulated and analyzed using these videotapes we have gone frame by frame over the trajectories of these objects and we now realize that they can exceed the capabilities of our aircraft they can drop 70 80,000 ft within just a matter of a few seconds they can zigzag and we physicists now have calculated the G forces inside these whatever they are the G forces are in the hundreds of times of the force of gravity that it turn any human into PE soup in other words it would crush the bones of any object any any organism that we're familiar with and so these objects are probably uh drones of some sort uh because they can exceed the capabilities of our aircraft and put pressures on the pilots that would crush their bones now the two intelligence experts from the US defense department who gave evidence on the 17th of May to Congress Ron maltry Scott Bray two of the top officials in the pentagon's intelligence section they suggested very strongly that these were drones these anomalous objects to your knowledge though is there any known terrestrial human technology that is capable of what these objects have been seen doing well if these objects can do what the data seems to indicate then they exceed the capabilities of even our drones we have Hypersonic drones that can go up to mach 20 but they're unstable the United States had a very vigorous Hypersonic drone program up to two years ago but abandon it because when these things begin to maneuver they spiral out of control and then crash that's why the Russians are pushing this technology because they want to evade a Star Wars program by having maneuverable Rockets but you see that's the problem once they start to maneuver then small oscillations build up until they spiral out of control and then crash so so far no one's been able to create a Hypersonic drone that can that can duplicate the Feats that we see on videotape do you see any evidence to justify a conclusion that these might be foreign adversaries well when you look at the pentagon's um statement on these objects it lists the various possibilities weather anomalies and so on and so forth and at the end the last option is other now what does that mean other well we realize that the Chinese have a Hypersonic drone program the Russians have an operational Hypersonic drone program that they're using in the Ukraine the United States is now re reinvigorating and refinancing see is Hypersonic drone program but these are all experimental and the track record of these Hypersonic drones is not very good and you realize that these sightings go back decades decades before anyone even conceived of hypersonic drones so what are they so we're left with the last option and that is other and other includes well maybe a renegade country just like if you watch James Bond movie there's always some Smur or Spectre out there that has a secret program with access to Advanced Technology maybe a James Bond type uh secret organization and for the first time the military is not immediately excluding the possibility of their being extraterrestrial this is new in other words one military official was quoted as saying quote they are not ours and if they're not ours then whose are they if they're not the Chinese if they're not the Russians if they're not us then what's left could it be ET so we're left with the possibility now and the military is now owning up to this that they could be extraterrestrial and this is new before the military would try to debunk these things saying that maybe they're stealth bombers uh maybe they're Chinese or the Russian technology the but the military is now admitting that yeah they they're not ours do you think the United States knows a lot more than it's letting on the question is is the United States hiding something well of course I mean we pay spies to keep secrets not to divulge secrets we pay generals to win Wars not to lose Wars of course there's going to be a stockpile of stuff if I was in the military and I was in charge of this material I too would be stockpiling lot of this material but the key thing is is much of this data is now slowly being revealed and the data you go where the data goes and the data points to a technology that seems to exceed our capabilities even today you are one of America's most highly respected theoretical physicists I reckon you've got networks are you hearing anything in the traps is there a a program going on are there physicists who are working for some secret government program that you know of well there are physicists who do work for secret programs uh one of them is Jason for example some of the top physicists that I knew personally have actually worked for Jason uh but to my knowledge working on flying saucers and stuff like that is not part of their of their mandate however working on extraterrestrial modes of transportation is and so these organizations have in fact looked at what it takes to create an object that can can exceed the speed of light are they anywhere near it do you think no I've seen a lot of the proposals uh by people from Jason and by other groups like DARPA that have looked at this in fact NASA had a 100-year Starship program a program whose official title was the 100e Starship and they said that within a 100 Years nope we're still not going to be able to approach a going faster than the speed of light but is it possible to exceed the speed of light and the answer is yes now sorry just for a moment sir I mean I thought Albert Einstein's theory of relativity made it absolutely impossible to exceed the speed of light people forget that Einstein had two theories not one theory of relativity the first Theory says yes Einstein is the cop on the Block you cannot go faster than the speed of light that's the special theory of relativity but later he created a more powerful general theory of relativity ity that showed that space itself is like a fabric a fabric that can be stretched and perhaps even ripped and if you could rip the fabric of space and time then we're now talking about hyperdrive Technologies so there's a chap called miguell aluer who came up with this hypothetical concept of the aluer drive can you explain to us what the implications are of his theoretical possibility there are actually two ways you can break the light barrier consistent with Einstein's theory of general relativity the first was actually proposed by Einstein himself in 1935 in 1935 he looked at a black hole which looks like a funnel a funnel Things fall into the black hole and then you put two of them two of them back to back so that if you fell into this funnel you would come out the other end and that's called a wormhole which Ein worked out with his student Nathan Rosen back in 1935 and you can actually go faster than the speed of Life by Going Through the Wormhole now you've seen this before as a child you've seen this before the first reference to a wormhole in the English language was done by Charles Dodson otherwise known as Lewis Carroll in the book Through the Looking Glass the Looking Glass is the Wormhole Alice sticks her hand Through the Wormhole and her hand goes to the other side of forever which is Wonderland so that is the first way that you might exceed the speed of light using Einstein's general theory of relativity as proposed by Einstein himself in 1935 and what's the second proposed way the second proposal to exceed the speed of flight is to stretch space let's say you're walking on a carpet and you crumple up the space in front of you and expand the space behind you and then all you do is hop over the carpet so in other words you don't go to the Stars the stars come to you you are literally yanking the stars in your direction and then you're simply hopping over the distance now I want to take you through there's some complicated ideas here but I've had the privilege of interviewing the former head of the pentagon's UAP program a guy called Lou Elis condo and he uses this term the five observables I think he talks about instantaneous velocity uh uh massively High velocities um positive lift stealth and transm medium travel so there are five things that these objects have been recorded doing shown by the data is what these five observables are showing consistent with cubia theory is if somebody's flying a craft that's operating using that stretching of SpaceTime and warping of space time if you like is that is that what would explain what we're seeing with these objects in the sky well I'll be honest there's a catch there's always a catch always catch or else we would have had hyperdrive technology yesterday right what's the catch the catch is energy you need fabulous amounts of positive and negative energy in order to propel yourself so that you could exceed the speed of light for example the Wormhole solution we find wormhost soluions when we analyze black holes but a black hole requires the the energy of maybe uh 10 to 50 stars so we're talking about Stellar amounts of energy and the same thing for the ALCO beer Drive in order to create a warp bubble a warp bubble in which you can then hop over compressed space requires fabulous am amounts of positive and negative energy uh the latest calculation that I've seen says that you have to have energy comparable to the mass of Jupiter not a star but just Jupiter in order to drive these things so in other words what we're talking about is a very advanced technology which is not for us we're talking about energy on a scale that exceeds the energy of the solar system okay but somebody's doing that aren't they I mean these objects do you think that what these anomalous objects are they do appear to be intelligently controlled don't they when you talk to the average physicist about going faster than the speed of light you get what is called the giggle Factor their eyes kind of like roll up to the heavens and they start to laugh and giggle and they say look the distance between stars is so great that it would take thousands of years to reach the nearby stars and what what uh saying extraterrestrial civilization ation is going to invest thousands of years to reach the planet Earth it's just not not common sense however that assumes that the aliens are maybe a hundred years more advanced than us open your mind to the possibility that they could be thousands millions of years more advanced than us then new forms of technology begin to open up we're not talking about the very edge of our understanding of the quum Theory and general relativity at that point new phenomenon start to enter into the picture phenomenon that allow you to exceed the speed of light Stephen Hawking the late great cosmologist even said that yes with wormholes it may be possible to break the light barrier using Einstein's theory and the quantum theory and so open your minds to the possibility that they could be millions of years ahead of us so that's the theoretical possib possibilities that you say are plausible possible something's doing that though isn't it in our atmosphere under our ocean in Orit when we talk about going fast in the speed of light you have to leave the technology of the planet Earth we physicists rank civilizations by energy a type one civilization is planetary they control the weather they control earthquakes volcanoes anything planetary they control sort of like living in the world of Buck Rogers or Flash Gordon then there's type two which is Stellar these civilizations control the power of a star the output of a star like for example a Dyson Sphere which envelops an entire star and uses that energy to propel its machines and then we have type three type three is the energy of a galaxy they roam the galactic space Lanes now Star Trek for example would be a typical type two civilization you can colonize a few star systems but not much more than the so-called Alpha sector of the Milky Way galaxy that's Star Trek Star Wars would be type three where you roam across the galactic space Lanes now these civilizations that we're hypothesizing about can they have hyperdrive and the answer is possibly yes by the time you're type three you can access the plun energy the plun energy is the energy you find in the heart of a black hole the Big Bang it's the point at which space becomes unstable wormholes start to emerge is this also what they call Zero Point Energy this is beyond Zero Point Energy this is the ultimate energy of the universe itself the plank energy that's the energy that I work with when I publish papers I publish at the plank energy the energy at which space and time become unstable for example let's say I have some water and I heat it up what happens it starts to boil bubbles form that expand and you get what's called a phase transition now let's talk about empty space empty space that's heated up heated up to the plun energy what happens bubbles form little bubbles these bubbles are wormholes gateways to perhaps other parts of space and time and so these bubbles is probably how our universe got started our universe was probably one of these bubbles floating in the vacuum and one of these bubbles expanded to create our universe so if you are type three you can begin to play with baby universes you can begin to play with the plank energy the energy at which space becomes unstable that space becomes full of Bubbles and these bubbles are gateways statistically knowing the incredible awesome size of our universe there's every likelihood absolute certainty really isn't there that there are civilizations non-human civilizations out there far more advanced than us when you look at pictures from the web Space Telescope and the Hubble Space Telescope realize that many of these pictures are just one little pinpoint one little pinpoint in the night sky magnified to give these gorgeous pictures you see on the TV right well that little dot that pinpoint of light contains trillions of stars each dot in that photograph that you see on National Television each dot is a Galaxy that's a 100 billion stars in each Dot and how many dots are there in that pinpoint billions what we're talking about is a photograph of trillions trillions of stars think about about that for a moment the probability that we're the only game in town is a fraction the inverse of trillions and so you begin to realize that of course they're out there of course why should we be special for example look at what we're made out of we're made out of proteins and amino acids we find them in the heart of meteors we find amino acids in gas clouds mbula thousands of light ears from the planet Earth we see the ingredients of light the amino acids everywhere we look in the universe so if I ask Professor mitaku are we alone what do you say people ask the question are we alone my attitude is of course what took you so long let's look then at the phenomena as it's being recorded on all those sensor systems that we're describing let's just focus for example on the 400 incidents that the US now admits formally to the Congress a real unidentified aerial phenomena they can't explain them Professor they appear to be intelligently controlled do you agree so far the evidence seems to point in the direction that if these objects are extraterrestrial and I'm not saying they are but if they are extraterrestrial then it requires a level of intelligence that exceeds what we have exceeds the technology of the plan planet Earth the implications of that then are that we're being visited you can't um I'm a physicist you go where the data goes and when data point points in the direction that we might be visited it's a possibility that we cannot neglect I mean are we the only sensient beings in the in the universe I don't think so let me give you then the uh the classic rejoinder that you get from the Skeptics they say come on what why would aliens be visiting this planet why would anybody care a toss you know I mean we're probably an insignificant bunch of carbon related to everything else in the universe why would they be bothered taking an interest in humanity let's say you walking down a country road and you encounter a forest and you encounter a squirrel do you go down to the squirrel and talk to it well initially you may be curious about the squirrel and you want to like say a few things but after a while you get bored because the squirrel doesn't talk back to you but do you encounter these squirrels yeah but for the most part you leave them alone we are perhaps the squirrels in the forest and any intelligent civilization that can span across Stars would simply say well yeah they're curious they're interesting let's study them but for the most part we'll leave them alone but if that is the case if really they're not that fuss about us they do appear to be taking a close interest in things like uh nuclear weapons facilities whatever they are there is a high prevalence statistically of uaps that have been witnessed over nuclear weapons facilities nuclear power plants places where the United States develops and processes uranium there are two theories as to why we have an extraordinary number of sightings at military installations one Theory says that they're curious about how advanced we are I mean at some point Point can we destroy ourselves what happens if a war breaks out is our civilization unstable so that's one possibility but there's another possibility and that other possibility is that's where the cameras are that's where the seasoned Pilots are that's where we have aircraft not in the middle of the ocean but no next to weapons facilities where we have a concentration of electronic technology of course we're going to see more sightings there because that's where the technology is not because they're more curious ious about us and our weapons program so do you think it's quite plausible that there is an alien civilization that's been taking an interest in planet Earth for quite some time there are some people who claim that perhaps these visitations go back thousands of years not just back to World War II if you look at the Bible for example there are sightings in the Bible uh Ezekiel talks about the wheel the Wheel in the Sky for example in the chapter on Ezekiel so then the question is where we visited in the past well I'm a physicist we believe in data that is testable reproducible falsifiable and it's not testable it's not reproducible whether or not we were visited uh in biblical times but it cannot be dismissed there are a number of philosophers commentators scientists who've indicated that they've been approached privately by the US government sections of the military the intelligence services to prepare America for the possibility of extraterrestrial life the the philosopher Sam Harris said as much in a podcast last year have you had any approaches from the US government yourself you'd be a perfect person to explain it I personally am a little bit skeptical about plans of scientists and politicians to prepare for an encounter with an extraterrestrial civil ization cuz I've talked to the C people and the S people are the people on the front lines they are the ones taking all the flak they're the ones in the front line talking about this and I asked them what about the protocols what about the press releases what about governments the United Nations what role are they going to play where are the plans and their attitude is they don't exist there are no plans do you believe that yeah I believe there are no plans because politicians always drag at the tail okay very rarely do you have a politician who farsighted and see the future no they see the past and as a consequence they don't want to have the giggle Factor thrown at them they don't want to have people roll their eyes every time a politician starts to talk about these ancient civilizations uh basically they hide their rear so so what do you one of America's most eminent theoretical physicists say to people watching this who might be thinking you uos uaps they're just a bit of a giggle seriously they don't need to be taken seriously if it turns out that we have in fact been visited by an advanced civilization this would be this let me take that if it does turn out that we have been visited and it could be proven by an advanced civilization then that would be the greatest moment in the history of the human race it would be a pivotal event in the history of homo sapiens on the planet Earth the realization that we are not alone and then of course we have to begin the process of analyzing the question who are these people what do they want how can we relate to these people these are cosmic questions and so this is perhaps one of the greatest questions facing the history of the human race what happens if we make an encounter have you coped criticism from your professional colleagues to the way in which you're putting yourself out there conceding the possibility that this might be extraterrestrial in the early days if you were a scientist and you begin to make statements about public policy your friends would shake their heads and say oh there he goes again uh that's passed uh because of the fact that so many times the people that have raised these criticisms were correct so many times the naysayers so many times the people that were skeptical turned out to be right and so times have changed there's been a sea change there's been a change in the way the scientific Community looks at this why do you think the Pentagon probably one of the most secretive organizations on the planet by necessity why do you think it's suddenly becoming more open and transparent about UFOs uaps we're witnessing a sea change in the attitude of the military and the establishment they're now owning up to the fact that there are hundreds of hours of videotapes that our Pilots have now stated that for days for days they would see these things flying around military installation not just one encounter but for days and hours they would see these things happening why is the military owning up to it because the politicians are now beginning to say hey maybe there is something there that is a national security threat and why are these people the politicians beginning to say these things because of pressure from Below that is the average person is now beginning to say hey wait a minute maybe we should spend a little bit of our taxpayers money to investigate these things that puts pressure on the politicians who then put pressure on the military the military is owning up to these things Kicking and Screaming they're owning up to these things because of course for them secrecy is the name of the game I wasn't ready to understand until I looked at the old documents going right back to the Robertson panel that started 1952 the year of the Washington flyover over Washington DC of a whole cluster of alleged UFOs I wasn't ready for the fact that the documents show very clearly there's been a deliberate policy of disinformation of stigmatizing ridiculing public discussion about UFOs for the last 50 60 years are you aware of that and do you think that explains a large part of the kickback that you get from talking about this subject the fact that there's been a lot of so-called debunking especially in the early days uh my attitude is of course of course you're going to get debunking okay because we're talking about Cosmic questions that impinge upon National Security our role in the universe or understanding of who we are of course there's going to be a lot of debunking going on back then I would have been one of the debunkers too realizing that hey are we ready for this information well are we ready let's assume this is is extraterrestrial which even I noticed ail Haynes the Director of National Intelligence conceded was a possibility if this is ET are we ready I there's been a change in public attitude because Hollywood has pretty much created the new mythology it used to be demons and and Gremlins and leprechauns that people dreamt about at night and feared now it's aliens from out of space and some of them could be friendly like ET and so I think the American public is ready for information about an encounter with an extraterrestrial civilization however I draw the line when it comes to advertising our existence to alien civilizations there's some physicists and scientists who say that we should beam into outer space messages saying here we are we are located in this quadrant of the mil Way galaxy you can visit us cuz you can triangulate our location this is the level of our technology come and get it I think that is fool hearty because look what happened to uh monuma when he met Cortez montazuma made perhaps the biggest mistake in ancient history he assumed that Cortez was a God in fact he was a bloodthirsty pirate but what did Cortez have he had steel the Aztecs had bronze weapons they were a Bronze Age civilization Cortez had the horse the Aztec had never seen a horse before Cortez had the written language the Aztec had a pictoral language Cortez had Gunpowder the Aztec had bows and arrows and within just a few months the entire Aztec civilization crumbled so I think it's a bad idea to advertise our existence to any alien civilization out of space until we know who they are what they want and how advanced they are back in the 1960s The Brookings institution did a paper that suggested that the world wasn't ready America wasn't ready for the whole idea of the possibility of extraterrestrial life because of religious beliefs do you think that the notion of extraterrestrial life is incompatible with conventional religious ideas in the year 1600 there was a former monk Geodon Bruno who was burned alive in the streets of Rome because he said they were aliens in outer space and if you go to Rome today you can go to the plain of flowers the very spot where he was burned alive and there's a statue of him a statue of him pointing to the heavens and it indicates that hey maybe civilization has grown up a bit that in 1600 we burn them we don't burn astronomers anymore we don't burn scientists anymore like they used to in the year 1600 so I think that the people are more accustomed to the idea that the universe is huge that our Earth is not the only planet out there that can sustain intelligent life and so I think the public would be more welcoming the idea that there could be other civilizations out there let's talk about what's the most plausible explanation for the apparent intelligently controlled technology that we're seeing this anomalous phenomena represent if it's not foreign adversaries if it's unlikely to be some kind of James bondan Dr No character that's concealed their incredible developments away from the rest of humanity isn't the most plausible explanation that this is some other intelligent life looking at all these videotapes okay I've come to two conclusions one conclusion is you have to be very careful some of these sightings are optical illusions so you have to eliminate them very carefully the other possibility is they are not ours that they represent a technology that is hundreds thousands of years more advanced than us and if they can go between Stars it means they're up to maybe a million years more advanced than us so the idea that some of them are caused by optical illusions that has to be looked at very seriously because an object that moves very slowly across your field division if you don't know how far it is you could think that it's very far away and zipping along like this when it's actually a piece of dust or an insect that just slowly flying across your field of vision and that's why I find I get sent hundreds thousands of videos from people who've held up their mobile phones and filled some filmed something flying across the sky nine times out of 10 it's a waste of time because there's no refence point to make a judgment as to how far away that object was the difference here though is that we now do have incontrovertible data from the US Navy in particular there's a sad story that set the pace for the 1980s and 90s in 1986 there was a Japan Airlines flight going over Alaska three seasoned Pilots they saw something they saw three objects tailing them and it was not just these three Pilots visually tracking these things it was tracked by radar and they communicated with the ground controllers they were tracking this thing what happened afterwards these Pilots were demoted they were given desk jobs and their careers were pretty much over but you see here we have a new gold standard emerging multiple sightings by multiple modes three season Pilots visually locking onto an object tracking it with radar ground radar as well and they were just given desk jobs now that Japanese Airlines story you're talking about is very important because there was also a cover up at this end in the United States there was a chap called John Callahan in the FAA your federal airports Administration Aviation Administration and he described how the CIA your Central Intelligence Agency came in and ordered that it would take possession of all of the the radar data all of the recordings the audio recordings of what transpired during that sighting between the air traffic controllers in Anchorage and the pilots in the aircraft why would the US want to cover up this kind of interesting data why not just be open the question is why did the military cover up all these things and the answer is very clear it was the Cold War because of the cold war the military did a lot of things that in hindsight seem kind of silly for example take a look at Roswell let's not get into the details of what happened at Roswell back in 1947 but why was there this massive coverup of the Roswell incident when it was maybe a weather balloon or who knows what it was it was because the United States military was conducting secret unauthorized experiments releasing radioactive materials into people's backyard now today that would be considered Ed outrageous we would be suing people left and right if looking at cancer rates going up but back then we did not know exactly how radiation spread in an environment because Hiroshima was only just two years before therefore the military authorized weather balloons to then release radioactive materials into people's backyard okay that's why the military had to hush up this whole Roswell thing regardless of whether or not they were real aliens there because of the Cold War that's why there was so much secrecy but the cold war ended supposedly 30 years ago and yet we're still covering up why uh well I don't know you have to ask the military about that one I mean the fact that the military had covered up these things for decades is clear because of the cold war we didn't know what the Russians had we were doing experiments on our side that were considered unethical because we thought the Russians were do it uh there's something called MK Ultra MK Ultra was this incredibly large program to develop hypnotic materials drugs hypnosis psychics uh in order to win the war against Russia crazy experiments that we would laugh at today but they were authorized and funded generously at America's top universities for decades and so the military definitely was in the business of covering up and authorizing incredibly stupid experiments I asked you earlier about religion and the impact that you thought the revelations of potential alien life might have on establishment religion you've written a book yourself recently uh about God you've engaged with the possibility that the theoretical physics that you're exploring isn't incompatible with the idea of God now one of the people you've named Steven Hawking he he suggested that God didn't fit in to the Big Bang Theory there was no room for God why do you disagree the late Stephen Hawking had very sharp opinions about God and the creation of the universe according to Einstein's general theory relativity the Big Bang was almost instantaneous and therefore Stephen Hawkins said aha there was no time there was no time for God to create the universe it just happened just like that and therefore before God could not possibly exist but you see that's an old Theory we don't necessarily believe that anymore because we now believe that the Big Bang was a Quantum event and in a Quantum event if it happens once it can happen again and again and again creating a Multiverse of universes so instead of one universe expanding which is the Big Bang Theory we have a bubble bath a bubble bath of universes bubbles being formed out of the vacuum because we're now exceeding the plunk energy and these bubbles create entire universes and so we begin to realize that there was plenty of time for a God to create a universe because there was not just one Universe now I'll probably get my head put on a stake by some of the religions for suggesting this possibility but is it possible God's an alien I mean is it possible that what we are is some kind of genetic experiment by a much more advanced civilization because at the heart of it isn't what say the Bible or the Quran describe something that involves a highly advanced intelligence coming down to planet Earth imbuing us with Knowledge and Skills passing on understanding isn't that God isn't that alien well if an advanced civilization were to come to the planet Earth in the year 1500 for example we would consider them to be God now does that mean that they are God that created the entire universe no it just means that our level of technology in the year 1500 would suppose that they are in fact God but whether or not there is a God is independent of whether or not an advanced civilization were to meet us in the year 1500 these are two independent questions one question is simply are they Advanced enough to appear like God the other question is are they God that create the universe these are two distinct questions now sir you like I am sure have seen the news media reports where key officials both former and serving have suggested that the United States government is in possession of quote exotic material the possibility is being openly discussed that the United States has recovered alien technology which was laughable a few years ago but you'd agree it's being openly discussed by people like Lou lazando Christopher melan Eric Davis other people who've basically claimed to have inside knowledge what's your response to that do you think that's a possibility that somewhere in a dark cave somewhere there are us scientists working on recovered technology well look at it this way I get a lot of emails from people that have claimed that uh you're barking at the wrong tree the aliens are not there the aliens are here they visited us they're here and I say what proof do you have that the aliens are here and they tell me that they've been abducted they've been kidnapped by aliens in out of space well I have a word of advice if you have ever been kidnapped by an alien from outter space for God's sake steal something I don't care where there's a paperclip an ancient an alien pen an alien calculator steal something because afterwards you can say aha look look look proof proof you want to see the evidence I'm a physicist we live and die by the evidence maybe you saw an angel last night maybe you did we'll have to like go through the evolutionary history of what it would take to create an angel and so on and so forth but afterwards where's the data where is the reproducible experiment that we can create tests on it's hearsay after that so in other words we can speculate this afternoon until we're till we're blue in the face but all sorts of fantastic possibilities right and what have we gotten nowhere we've gotten nowhere because there's nothing tangible but frankly if I was the US government and I was in possession of Technology like that I wouldn't be revealing it either would you I think the probability that we have a captured Flying Saucer someplace at area 51 or whatever is very very small but let's assume for the moment that it's true let's assume that we do have alien bodies alien Technologies and so on so forth would we keep it a secret of course we're not stupid I mean you don't want to blab to the whole universe all the secrets that you can get from a damaged Flying Saucer but that doesn't prove anything either in other words maybe maybe not Science is based on things that are testable reproducible and falsifiable anything outside of that is disconsidered here a professor Kaku thank you very much
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