♪ AMNA: GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. I'M AMNA NAWAZ. GEOFF: AND I AM GEOFF BENNETT.
ON "THE NEWSHOUR" TONIGHT... A SIXTH MEMPHIS POLICE OFFICER IS RELIEVED OF DUTY AFTER THE KILLING OF TYRE NICHOLS. WE SPEAK WITH THE FAMILY'S LAWYER.
AMNA: ON A TRIP TO THE MIDDLE EAST, THE U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE URGES ISRAELIS AND PALESTINIANS TO RESTORE CALM AMID A SPIKE IN VIOLENCE. GEOFF: AND WHAT'S CAUSING THE PRICE OF EGGS TO SKYROCKET NATIONWIDE? >> BEFORE WHEN WE WOULD MESS UP AN EGG OR AN EGG WOULD BREAK, IT WAS NO BIG DEAL. WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE. NOW IT'S LIKE, OH, IT'S LIKE WE'RE MOURNING THAT EGG! ♪ >> MAJOR FUNDING FOR "THE PBS NEWSHOUR" HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY -- ♪ AND WITH THE ONGOING SUPPORT OF THESE INDIVIDUALS AND INSTITUTIONS, AND FRIENDS OF "THE NEWSHOUR," INCLUDING -- LEONARD AND NORMA KLORFINE, AND KOO AND PATRICIA YUAN. THE WILLIAM AND FLORA HEWLETT FOUNDATION.
FOR MORE THAN 50 YEARS, ADVANCING IDEAS AND SUPPORTING INSTITUTIONS TO PROMOTE A BETTER WORLD. AT HEWLETT.ORG. ♪ ♪ THIS PROGRAM WAS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO YOUR PBS STATION FROM VIEWERS LIKE YOU. THANK YOU. GEOFF: WELCOME TO "THE NEWSHOUR." A SIXTH POLICE OFFICER IN MEMPHIS HAS BEEN SUSPENDED IN THE DEATH OF TYRE NICHOLS.
MEMPHIS POLICE ANNOUNCED TODAY THAT OFFICER PRESTON HEMPHILL HAS BEEN RELIEVED OF HIS DUTIES AS PART OF AN INTERNAL INVESTIGATION. AND THIS EVENING, THE MEMPHIS FIRE DEPARTMENT ANNOUNCED IT FIRED TWO EMTS AND A LIEUTENANT WHO RESPONDED TO THE SCENE BUT FAILED TO PROVIDE SUFFICIENT CARE AND VIOLATED NUMEROUS POLICIES. AMNA: THOSE MOVES AS RESIDENTS , IN MEMPHIS HAVE CALLED FOR FURTHER ACCOUNTABILITY TO OTHER AUTHORITIES WHO WERE ON THE SCENE WHEN NICHOLS WAS BEATEN, TASERED AND PEPPER SPRAYED FOR A FULL THREE MINUTES. BENJAMIN CRUMP IS REPRESENTING TYRE NICHOLS'S FAMILY.
I SPOKE TO HIM A SHORT TIME AGO. AFTER THE SUSPENSION OF THE OFFICER BUT BEFORE THE NEWS OF THE EMTS ON THE SCENE. WELCOME BACK. LET'S START WITH THE NEWS TODAY, THE SIX OFFICER RELIEVED OF DUTY DAYS AFTER THE FIVE OTHER OFFICERS WERE REMOVED FROM DUTY AND ARRESTED AND CHARGED. WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE SIX OFFICER AND WHY WERE THE STEPS TAKEN NOW? BEN: WHAT I KNOW IS TYRE'S FATHER, MR. RODNEY WELLS, SAID
THE FIRST TIME HE SAW THE VIDEO, WHY WHY -- WHY WASN'T THIS WHITE OFFICER TERMINATED AS WELL BECAUSE HE SAW HIM WITH THE TASER SHOOTING TYRE. IT IS BELIEVED BY THE FAMILY THAT YOU ALSO HIT OFFICER SAYING SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, "I HOPE ONE DAY CATCH HIM, THEY STOMP HIM," AND USING PROFANE LANGUAGE. IT UNDERSCORES THE FACT THAT MANY PEOPLE, ONCE THE VIDEO WAS RELEASED, SAID HOLD ON, WHY WASN'T HE ALSO ARRESTED, WHY WASN'T HE CHARGED WITH ANYTHING? SO WE BELIEVE HE SHOULD BE TERMINATED IMMEDIATELY LIKE THE FIVE BLACK OFFICERS WERE TERMINATED.
AMNA: DO YOU BELIEVE ACCOUNTABILITY STOPS WITH THESE OFFICERS? BEN: NO, I THINK THIS WHOLE SCORPION UNIT WITHIN THE MEMPHIS POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS OPERATING BUSINESS AS USUAL. WHEN YOU SEE HOW NONCHALANTLY THEY ACTED IN THAT VIDEO, HOW THEY WERE TALKING TO EACH OTHER WHILE TYRE LAID THERE IN DISTRESS, MOANING AND FIGHTING FOR HIS LIFE, THEY SEEMED LIKE IT WAS BUSINESS AS USUAL. WE BELIEVE THERE IS A PATTERN AND PRACTICE THAT EXISTS WITHIN THE MEMPHIS POLICE DEPARTMENT, ESPECIALLY IN THIS UNIT, THAT SAYS IT IS OK TO ENGAGE IN EXCESSIVE USE OF FORCE AGAINST PEOPLE OF COLOR. AND DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY LIVE AT. WE BELIEVE THIS IS PART OF A BIGGER CULTURE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AMNA: THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY TYRE WAS EVEN STOPPED IN THE FIRST PLACE, WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS A LEGITIMATE TRAFFIC STOP AS THE POLICE HAVE CLAIMED.
HAVE YOU SEEN ANY EVIDENCE THAT SPEAKS TO THAT, WHY HE WAS STOPPED? BEN: NO, WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY REASON -- I MEAN, WE HEARD THE ALLEGATIONS THAT THEY SAID HE WAS DRIVING RECKLESSLY, AND ONE TIME ON THE TAPE, YOU HEAR SOME OFFICERS SAY HE WAS COMING DOWN THE WRONG WAY ON THE STREET, BUT WE BELIEVE IF THAT DID EXIST, SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE COME FORWARD BY NOW WITH ALL OF THE ATTENTION THE VIDEO HAS GOTTEN. WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS TRUE. AMNA: WE HAVE SEEN SO MANY CALLS FOR REFORM, SO MANY INCREMENTAL STEPS OVER THE YEARS. YOU HAVE WORKED ON COUNTLESS CASES OF POLICE BRUTALITY AND KILLINGS.
YOU HAVE CALLED FOR WHAT YOU SAY NEEDS TO BE INSTITUTIONALIZED POLICE CULTURE TO CHANGE. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? BEN: WE NEED SYSTEMIC REFORM. WE HAVEN'T HAD MEANINGFUL POLICE REFORM ON A FEDERAL LEVEL SINCE PRESIDENT JOHNSON'S GREAT SOCIETY LEGISLATION IN THE 1960'S. WE DIDN'T GET IT IN 1992 WITH RODNEY KING, WE DID NOT GET IT WITH MICHAEL BROWN IN FERGUSON, MISSOURI, DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, AND WE DID NOT GET IT DURING GEORGE FLOYD. HOW MANY VIDEOS DO WE HAVE TO SHOW YOU, AMERICA, BEFORE YOU UNDERSTAND THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH POLICING IN COMMUNITIES OF COLOR? THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY HIS FAMILY FELT IT WAS SO IMPORTANT TO RELEASE THE VIDEO, BECAUSE MANY TIMES PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE IN COMMUNITIES OF COLOR BELIEVE THERE IS NO WAY POLICE WOULD JUST ABUSE OR BRUTALIZE A CITIZEN EVEN IF HE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING OR SHE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING. THIS VIDEO IS ANOTHER EXHIBIT OF HOW THEY POLICE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AMNA: OVER THE LAST FOUR DAYS, WE HAVE SEEN WHAT I CAN ONLY DESCRIBE AS THE INCOMPREHENSIBLE STRENGTH AND GRACE OF TYRE'S MOTHER AND STEPFATHER. WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT HOW THEY ARE DOING? BEN: YOU KNOW, THEY ARE PRETTY INCREDIBLE PEOPLE. HIS MOTHER HAS SAID ON MANY OCCASIONS THAT SHE FEELS HER SON WAS SENT ON AN ASSIGNMENT FROM GOD AND THAT ASSIGNMENT IS COMPLETED AND HE'S BACK HOME WITH HIS HEAVENLY FATHER. SHE SAID THAT'S THE ONLY WAY SHE CAN COPE WITH TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF THIS TRAGEDY, THAT THERE MUST BE SOME GREATER GOOD THAT COMES FROM THE TRAGIC KILLING OF HER SON BY THE POLICE OFFICERS WHO WERE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT AND SERVE HIM. SHE SAID, WHEN WE WERE TALKING TO PRESIDENT BIDEN, WE WANT HIM TO HAVE THE UNITED STATES SENATORS, CHUCK SCHUMER, CORY BOOKER, RECONVENE AND PUT THE GEORGE FLOYD JUSTICE IN POLICING ACT BACK ON THE TABLE AS WELL AS TALKING WITH CONGRESSWOMAN SHEILA JACKSON LEE ABOUT THE JUDICIARY IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
SO MAYBE WITH THE TRAGIC KILLING OF TYRE NICHOLS, WE MIGHT JUST BE ABLE TO GET POLICE REFORM. WE KNOW IT IS NOT GOING TO BE EASY, BUT TYRE IS WORTH THE FIGHT AND WE GOT TO TRY TO MAKE HIS MOTHER'S WISHES COME TRUE. AMNA: THAT IS IN GYM AND CRIME, CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY REPRESENTING THE FAMILY OF -- THAT IS BENJAMIN CRUMP, CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY REPRESENT IN THE FAMILY OF TYRE NICHOLS. GEOFF: AS WE JUST HEARD, TYRE NICHOLS'S FAMILY -- AS WELL AS MEMPHIS AUTHORITIES -- SAID IT WAS IMPORTANT TO RELEASE THE VIDEO TO THE PUBLIC TO CONVEY THE BRUTALITY OF THE ATTACK. AND THERE WERE MANY WARNINGS ABOUT THE GRAPHIC VIOLENCE IN IT, BUT FOR MANY WHO HAVE SEEN THE VIDEO, IT IS TRAUMATIZING, AND ONE OF FAR TOO MANY LIKE IT. SOME SAY THE PUBLIC IS EXPOSED TO THESE VIDEOS TOO EASILY AND THAT IT RAISES REAL CONCERN FOR A PERSON'S MENTAL HEALTH.
WE'RE GOING TO EXPLORE SOME OF THIS WITH RIANA ELYSE ANDERSON, A LICENSED CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST AND A CURRENT FELLOW AT STANFORD'S CENTER FOR ADVANCED STUDY IN THE BEHAVIORAL SCIENCES. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. RIANA: THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. GEOFF: THE TRAGIC KILLING OF TYRE NICHOLS BY POLICE HAS PERMEATED SOCIAL MEDIA, SHOWN ON THE NEWS, IT IS DIFFICULT TO AVOID WATCHING IT. HOW DO THESE HORRIFIC VIDEOS AFFECT THOSE WHO END UP WATCHING THEM? RIANA: THE FIRST IS A CLASSIC TRAUMA RESPONSE WHERE YOU ARE LOOKING AROUND AND THINKING MAYBE THIS WILL HAPPEN TO ME, SO THAT IS HYPERVIGILANCE. IT IS BOUNCING AROUND IN YOUR HEAD, THAT IS RUMINATION.
THOSE ARE SOME CLASSIC RESPONSES. THE SECOND IS IF YOU ARE NUMB TO IT. IF YOU HAVE THE SAME BACKGROUND, YOU DON'T WANT YOURSELF TO SPIKE EVERY TIME YOU WATCH SOMETHING LIKE THIS SO YOU MIGHT NUMB YOURSELF SO YOU ARE NOT RESPONDING EVERY TIME WE SEE A VIDEO. THE THIRD AND THE THING THAT MAKES ME MORE NERVOUS IS WE ARE TEACHING WHEN WE SEE THESE VIDEOS, YOU ARE LEARNING TO DEHUMANIZE PEOPLE WHO LOOK LIKE THIS.
A NUMBER OF RESPONSES, NONE OF THEM QUITE GOOD FOR OUR BODY OR MIND. GEOFF: I WANT TO PICK UP ON ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SAID, IN THIS ERA OF POLICE BODY CAMERAS AND CELLPHONE VIDEO'S, WE HAVE SEEN POLICE KILLINGS CAPTURED ON TAPE NOT JUST OF TYRE NICHOLS, BUT ERIC GARNER, GEORGE FLOYD, PHILANDO CASTILE, WALTER SCOTT -- THE LIST UNFORTUNATELY GOES ON AND ON. WHAT DO YOU SEE IS THE COMPOUND EFFECT OF THAT? RIANA: YEAH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHAT CAN HAPPEN TO OUR MIND AND BODY, THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT EITHER FROM A RESPONSE WHERE WE BELIEVE IT WILL HAPPEN OR WHAT IS MORE COMMON NOW, A NONRESPONSE, OUR BODIES AND MINDS ARE GETTING USED TO IT, THAT COMPONENT RESPONSE IS SOMETHING I AM A BIT NERVOUS IS LEADING TO WAYS WE ARE BELIEVING THIS IS A COMMON OCCURRENCE. IT IS POTENTIALLY REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF AGENCY WE THINK WE HAVE IN STOPPING SOMETHING LIKE THIS. IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY IMPACTING THOSE WATCHING IT, BOTH THE TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC AND THOSE WHO ARE NOT. GEOFF: LET'S TALK MORE SPECIFICALLY.
HOW SHOULD LACK FOLKS IN PARTICULAR GRAPPLE WITH AND PROCESS THE STUFF? RIANA: ONE OF THE THINGS I AM MINDFUL OF IS THERE WAS A LOT OF WARNING THIS WAS COMING AND SO FOR A NUMBER OF CLINICIANS WHO I KNOW, INCLUDING MYSELF, WE CHOSE NOT TO WATCH IT. WE TOOK THE WARNING AS A SIGN WE WOULD NOT ENGAGE WITH THIS VIDEO, IT WILL NOT TEACH US ANYTHING NEW, IT WILL NOT BRING BACK OUR BROTHER, SO WHY WATCH IT? THAT'S THE FIRST THING I AM MINDFUL OF. BUT IF YOU CHOSE TO WATCH IT OR IT WASN'T SOMETHING YOU KNEW WAS COMING ON, THERE ARE THREE QUICK THINGS I THINK YOU CAN DO WITH THOSE FEELINGS. THE FIRST IS TO TALK IT OUT, CAN YOU PROCESS IT WITH SOMEONE YOU CARE ABOUT? CAN YOU WALK IT OUT, DO BEHAVIORAL CHANGE? WE SAW A NUMBER OF PROTESTS THIS WEEKEND. CAN YOU PUT YOUR FEET ON THE GROUND TO DO SOME THING ABOUT THIS? AND THE FINAL THING IS TO THINK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE A BIT MORE IN POLICY AND IN WRITING. CAN WE TALK TO THESE POLICE AGENCIES, CAN WE DO THINGS LOCALLY AND EVEN NATIONALLY THAT MIGHT IMPACT THE WAY POLICING CHANGES SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SEE THESE VIDEOS AGAIN? GEOFF: HOW SHOULD PARENTS AND PEOPLE WHO CARE FOR CHILDREN PREPARE FOR SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I MIGHT GET? RIANA: SUCH A GREAT QUESTION.
IT'S DEFINITELY PART OF MY WORK. THE TALK THAT PARENTS OF COLOR ARE HAVING WITH THEIR CHILDREN, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THIS PREPARATION IS BEING READY FOR YOURSELF. HAVE YOU DONE THE WORK, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT AND PROCESSED AND PREPARED FOR HOW YOU ARE FEELING? IF YOU ARE UPSET AND FRUSTRATED, DO YOU TAP INTO THAT YOU KNOW HOW YOU ARE FEELING? HAVE YOU PROCESSED WITH SOMEONE ELSE? THE FIRST THING I ENCOURAGE PARENTS IS TO BE READY TO TALK IT OUT AND FEEL IT FOR THEMSELVES.
THE SECOND THING, WHEN YOU ARE TALKING TO YOUR CHILD OR YOUNG PEOPLE YOU CARE FOR, LISTEN. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF THE ANSWERS OR KNOW WHY STRUCTURAL RACISM CONTINUES TO THIS DAY. THAT'S NOT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND.
THAT'S FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE PERPETRATING IT TO STOP. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF THE ANSWERS, BUT LISTENING AND HELPING YOUR CHILD TO PROCESS AND RESPOND AND SAY I DON'T KNOW, TO CRY TOGETHER AND BE VULNERABLE, THOSE ARE THE BIGGEST THINGS YOU CAN DO. GEOFF: IT STRIKES ME THAT WHEN THESE VIDEOS ARE SHOWN OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THAT THE CULTURE CAN BECOME DESENSITIZED TO IT AND THE RESULT IS YOU HAVE WHAT AMOUNTS TO A NATIONAL SPECTACLE OF LACK OF DEATH.
GIVE ME YOUR THINKING ON THAT. HOW SHOULD WE BETTER UNDERSTAND AND AVOID THAT? RIANA: I THINK THERE ARE TWO MINDS OF THIS, FIRST IS IS IT GOOD TO BE RELEASED? WE LOVE ACCOUNTABILITY AND MAKING SURE WE KNOW THE FACTS OF A CASE OR SITUATION. IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THE IMPACT ON OUR MIND AND BODY. THAT TRAUMA CANNOT ONLY MAKE YOU THINK ABOUT AND BE FRUSTRATED AND TRAUMATIZED BY IT, BUT IT CAN ALSO WHERE AT YOUR BODY AS WELL.
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN LIMIT OUR CONSUMPTION, THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE AGENCY OVER, WE CAN CHOOSE WHETHER WE LIMIT OUR OWN CONSUMPTION, AND IT'S ALSO A QUESTION FOR THE MEDIA AND POLICE -- ARE THERE BETTER METHODS OF SHARING OR MAKING IT AVAILABLE? IS THERE A REPOSITORY YOU CAN CHECK INTO IF YOU ARE AN ADULT AND YOU HAVE TO SIGN IN FOR VERIFICATION? THERE ARE WAYS WE CAN THINK ABOUT HOLDING THESE OFFICERS AND AGENCIES ACCOUNTABLE WITHOUT LEADING TO FURTHER TRAUMATIZATION OF THE COMMUNITY. GEOFF: RIANA IS A CURRENT FELLOW AT STANFORD CENTER FOR ADVANCED STUDY IN BEHAVIORAL SCIENCES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INSIGHT. I APPRECIATE IT. RIANA: THANK YOU SO MUCH. ♪ GEOFF: IN THE DAY'S OTHER HEADLINES -- U.S. SECRETARY OF
STATE ANTONY BLINKEN URGED ISRAELIS AND PALESTINIANS TO STEP BACK AFTER DAYS OF GROWING BLOODSHED. THE SECRETARY ARRIVED AS ISRAELI TROOPS KILLED ANOTHER PALESTINIAN IN THE OCCUPIED WEST BANK -- AND AFTER A PALESTINIAN GUNMAN KILLED 7 ISRAELIS ON FRIDAY. BLINKEN SAID ALL CIVILIAN CASUALTIES ARE DEPLORABLE.
IN NORTHERN PAKISTAN, A SUICIDE BOMBER KILLED AT LEAST 59 PEOPLE AND WOUNDED 157 OTHERS TODAY AT A MOSQUE INSIDE A POLICE COMPOUND. IT WAS THE DEADLIEST ATTACK YET IN ESCALATING VIOLENCE. STEPHANIE SY HAS OUR REPORT. STEPHANIE: IN THE CITY OF PESHAWAR TODAY, A MAN BLEW HIMSELF UP AMONG A CROWD OF WORSHIPPERS.
THE EXPLOSION WAS SO POWERFUL, IT CAUSED THE MOSQUE'S ROOF TO COLLAPSE, THE WRECKAGE LANDING ON THE NEARLY 400 WORSHIPPERS BELOW. RESCUE WORKERS SCRAMBLED TO THE SCENE. THEY USED MACHINERY AND THEIR BARE HANDS TO PICK THROUGH THE RUBBLE IN SEARCH OF SURVIVORS. KHAWAR: WE REACHED THE SITE AFTER THE BLAST AND THERE WAS CHAOS. I RESCUED SEVEN PEOPLE, AND PUT THEM IN AMBULANCES.
ONE PORTION OF THE MOSQUE HAD TOTALLY COLLAPSED DUE TO THE BLAST. STEPHANIE: POLICE SAY THEY'RE INVESTIGATING HOW THE ATTACKER MANAGED TO SLIP THROUGH SEVERAL BARRICADES TO ENTER THE SECURED COMPOUND, AND WHETHER HE HAD INSIDE HELP. THE PAKISTANI TALIBAN CLAIMED -- FORMALLY DENIED RESPONSIBILITY FOR BOMBING IN COUNTRY'S NORTHWEST. THIS AFTER A COMMANDER CLAIMED RESPONSIBILITY ON TWITTER.
THE GROUP IS SEPARATE, BUT IDEOLOGICALLY ALIGNED WITH THE TALIBAN IN AFGHANISTAN -- BOTH DEFEND AN OPPRESSIVE INTERPRETATION OF ISLAM. TODAY, PRIME MINISTER SHEHBAZ SHARIF VISITED THE WOUNDED AT THEIR HOSPITAL BEDSIDES AND CALLED FOR STERN ACTION. PAKISTAN HAS FACED A SURGE OF SUCH ATTACKS SINCE NOVEMBER, WHEN A CEASEFIRE BETWEEN THE TALIBAN AND THE SHARIF GOVERNMENT BROKE DOWN. TONIGHT, MOURNERS ATTENDED A MASS FUNERAL, EXPRESSING GRIEF OVER THE COUNTRY'S LATEST TRAGEDY, ONE OF THE DEADLIEST ATTACKS ON SECURITY FORCES IN YEARS. FOR "THE PBS NEWSHOUR," I'M STEPHANIE SY. GEOFF: THE MOSQUE ATTACK WAS WIDELY CONDEMNED, EVEN BY THE TALIBAN GOVERNMENT IN AFGHANISTAN.
THAT GROUP IS A CLOSE ALLY OF THE PAKISTANI TALIBAN. THE GRINDING WAR IN EASTERN UKRAINE CLAIMED MORE LIVES TODAY, WITH NEITHER SIDE GAINING MUCH GROUND. UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS SAID RUSSIAN SHELLING KILLED 5 CIVILIANS IN THE LAST 24 HOURS. IN TURN, PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY APPEALED TO WESTERN NATIONS TO SPEED UP SHIPMENTS OF TANKS AND OTHER HEAVY WEAPONS. LATER, PRESIDENT BIDEN, WHEN ASKED BY REPORTERS, SAID THE U.S. WILL NOT PROVIDE F-16 FIGHTER JETS TO UKRAINE.
BACK IN THIS COUNTRY, THE VIRGINIA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHERE A 6-YEAR-OLD SHOT HIS TEACHER REOPENED TODAY. STUDENTS RETURNED TO CLASS IN NEWPORT NEWS MORE THAN 3 WEEKS AFTER THE SHOOTING. SECURITY WAS TIGHTER, AND THE CLASSROOM WHERE THE SHOOTING HAPPENED REMAINED CLOSED.
THE WOUNDED TEACHER -- ABBY ZWERNER -- IS RECOVERING AT HOME. ON WALL STREET, TECH SHARES LED STOCKS LOWER AS INVESTORS WAIT FOR THE FEDERAL RESERVE'S NEXT INTEREST RATE MOVE LATER THIS WEEK. THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE LOST 261 POINTS TO CLOSE AT 33,717.
THE NASDAQ FELL 228 POINTS -- 2 PERCENT. THE S&P 500 WAS DOWN 1 PERCENT. TWO PASSINGS OF NOTE TONIGHT -- HOCKEY LEGEND BOBBY HULL HAS DIED. HE SPENT MOST OF HIS 16 SEASONS WITH THE CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS AND HELPED THEM WIN THE STANLEY CUP IN 1961.
HIS BLONDE HAIR AND SPEED ON THE ICE EARNED HIM THE NICKNAME THE GOLDEN JET, AND HE WAS TWICE NAMED MOST VALUABLE PLAYER ON HIS WAY TO PRO HOCKEY'S HALL OF FAME. BOBBY HULL WAS 84 YEARS OLD. AND, BARRETT STRONG -- ONE OF MOTOWN'S FOUNDING ARTISTS -- HAS PASSED AWAY. HE'S BEST REMEMBERED AS WRITER AND LEAD SINGER ON MOTOWN'S FIRST MAJOR HIT, "MONEY," RELEASED IN 1960.
>> ♪ THE BEST THINGS IN LIFE ARE FREE BUT YOU CAN GIVE THEM TO THE BIRDS AND BEES I NEED MONEY THAT'S WHAT I WANT THAT'S WHAT I WANT THAT'S WHAT I WANT ♪ GEOFF: STRONG ALSO COLLABORATED ON OTHER CLASSICS INCLUDING "I HEARD IT THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE" AND "WAR." BARRETT STRONG WAS 81 YEARS OLD. STILL TO COME ON "THE NEWSHOUR"... PRESIDENT BIDEN VISITS BALTIMORE TO TOUT THE BENEFITS OF INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING... A LOOK AT FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S SUPPORT AMONG EVANGELICALS AS HE RAMPS UP HIS CAMPAIGN... AND A NEW BOOK EXAMINES THE POLITICAL INFLUENCE AND LEGACY OF THE BABY BOOMER GENERATION.
>> THIS IS "THE PBS NEWSHOUR" FROM WETA STUDIOS IN WASHINGTON, AND IN THE WEST FROM THE WALTER CRONKITE SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM AT ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY. AMNA: AFTER DAYS OF BLOODSHED BETWEEN ISRAELIS AND PALESTINIANS, AND REPORTED ISRAELI AISTRIKES IN IRAN, SECRETARY OF STATE TONY BLINKEN BECAME THE LATEST HIGH-RANKING AMERICAN OFFICIAL TO TRAVEL TO ISRAEL. HE LANDED TODAY FOR CONSULTATIONS WITH PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU. AS NICK SCHIFRIN REPORTS, BLINKEN IS TRYING TO KEEP A LID ON FURTHER BLOODSHED, AND COORDINATE U.S./ISRAELI
COOPERATION ON ISRAEL'S NEMESIS TO THE EAST, IRAN. NICK: IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A TRIP TO COORDINATE WITH A NEWLY ELECTED ALLIED GOVERNMENT, BUT VIOLENCE CREATED A CRISIS. TODAY PALESTINIANS BURIED NASEEM ABU FOUDA, THE 35TH PALESTINIAN THEY SAY WAS KILLED BY ISRAELIS THIS MONTH, MOSTLY FIGHTING ISRAELI SOLDIERS. LAST WEEK IN JENIN, ISRAEL LAUNCHED THE DEADLIEST RAID IN THE OCCUPIED WEST BANK IN YEARS. AND THIS WEEKEND, ISRAELIS BURIED RAFAEL BEN ELIYAHU, A VICTIM OF AN ATTACK ON AN EAST JERUSALEM SYNAGOGUE, ONE OF THE WORST AGAINST ISRAELIS IN YEARS, THAT THE US LABELED TERRORISM. AND NOW, ANOTHER EXPLOSION -- A PUBLICLY UNATTRIBUTED STRIKE NEAR AN IRANIAN MILITARY FACTORY.
SEC. BLINKEN: AS YOU CAN SEE, I'VE JUST LANDED IN ISRAEL AT WHAT IS A PIVOTAL MOMENT. NICK: SECRETARY OF STATE ANTONY BLINKEN WENT FROM THE AIRPORT TO A MEETING WITH ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU. AT THE TOP OF THE AGENDA, STOPPING ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN VIOLENCE. SEC. BLINKEN: WE'RE URGING ALL
SIDES NOW TO TAKE URGENT STEPS TO RESTORE CALM, TO DEESCALATE. NATAN: WE'VE SEEN RECORD NUMBERS FOR QUITE A WHILE, RECORD NUMBERS OF DEATHS ON BOTH SIDES. AND NOW WE'RE SEEING THIS ESCALATION, WHICH HAS, GIVES ALL THE FODDER, ALL THE FUEL FOR A MAJOR, PERHAPS THIRD INTIFADA. AND ALL THAT'S MISSING IS A SPARK. NICK: NATAN SACHS DIRECTS BROOKINGS' CENTER FOR MIDDLE EAST POLICY. HE SAYS WEAK PALESTINIAN LEADERSHIP, AND GROWING PALESTINIAN FRUSTRATION, HAS CREATED A POWDER KEG.
AND NOW, THERE'S AN ULTRANATIONALIST ISRAELI COALITION, THAT CHALLENGES THE STATUS QUO AT JERUSALEM'S HOLIEST SITE, CALLS FOR DE FACTO ANNEXATION OF THE OCCUPIED WEST BANK, AND REDUCING THE SUPREME COURT'S POWER TO CHECK PARLIAMENT. NATAN: IT'S A COALITION WITH VERY FAR RIGHT PARTNERS OF NETANYAHU AND POLICIES THAT WORRY WASHINGTON VERY MUCH. NICK: AND CAN SECRETARY BLINKEN CALLING FOR CALM, HELP AVOID AN EXPLOSION? NATAN: UNLESS YOU SHOUT, UNLESS YOU MAKE CLEAR THAT THIS IS A MOMENT OF EXTREME DANGER, WHICH I BELIEVE IT IS, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MOVE THINGS THE WAY YOU NEED TO MOVE IT. SO SECRETARY BLINKEN WOULD ACTUALLY BE BE WELL SERVED BY BEING LESS DIPLOMATIC, BANGING ON THE TABLE QUITE A FEW TIMES AND BEING ABLE TO BE LESS OF THE DIPLOMAT THAT HE TRULY IS AND MORE OF A SHOUTER, WHICH HE IS NOT.
NICK: WHAT SPEAKS LOUDLY -- LAST WEEK'S U.S./ISRAEL JOINT EXERCISES, THE LARGEST EVER. U.S. OFFICIALS CALLED IT A MESSAGE OF DETERRENCE TO IRAN. AND NOW, 36 HOURS BEFORE BLINKEN'S ARRIVAL, AN EXPLOSION IN ISFAHAN, REPORTEDLY NEAR A SITE CONNECTED TO IRAN'S BALLISTIC MISSILE PROGRAM. NORMAN: THIS FACILITY HAS BEEN KNOWN TO HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN MISSILE DEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPMENT OF HIGH TECHNOLOGIES, WHICH WOULD HAVE MADE MISSILES TO TARGET OTHER COUNTRIES WITH GREAT PRECISION.
NICK: NORMAN ROULE IS THE U.S.' FORMER NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE MANAGER FOR IRAN, AND NOW A FELLOW AT THE HARVARD BELFER CENTER. IRAN HAS THE MIDDLE EAST'S LARGEST INVENTORY OF BALLISTIC MISSILES, MANY CAPABLE OF STRIKING ISRAEL. NORMAN: SO IT APPEARS THAT THIS ACTION WAS MEANT TO INHIBIT OR DESTROY PROGRAMS AIMED AT IMPROVING MISSILE TECHNOLOGY.
THAT IMPLIES BOTH KNOWLEDGE OF THE PROGRAM. THAT ALSO IMPLIES THAT THERE WAS AN EFFORT TO SET BACK A PROGRAM AND SEND A MESSAGE ALSO TO IRAN'S LEADERSHIP THAT THIS PARTICULAR THREATENING ACTIVITY WOULD NOT BE TOLERATED. NICK: IRAN SAID THE TARGET WAS A MILITARY FACTORY. ISRAEL DID NOT CLAIM PUBLIC CREDIT, BUT NETANYAHU CITED IRAN'S NUCLEAR AND MISSILE PROGRAM TODAY.
PM NETANYAHU: OUR POLICY, AND MY POLICY, IS TO DO EVERYTHING WITHIN ISRAEL'S POWER TO PREVENT IRAN FROM ACQUIRING NUCLEAR WEAPONS, AND THE MEANS TO DELIVER THEM. AND THAT WILL REMAIN SO. NICK: IT'S UNLIKELY THE TARGET WAS CONNECTED TO IRANIAN DRONES OR MISSILES BOUGHT BY RUSSIA TO ATTACK UKRAINE, SAYS ROULE. NORMAN: THE NATURE OF IRAN'S WEAPONRY FOR RUSSIA IN ITS AGGRESSION AGAINST UKRAINE HAS BEEN OFF THE SHELF MATERIAL. AGAIN, THIS FACILITY WAS LIKELY ENGAGED IN ADVANCED RESEARCH OR SOME SPECIFIC ACTIVITY THAT SOME ACTOR WANTED TO STOP BEFORE THAT ACTIVITY REACHED THE POINT WHERE IT COULD THREATEN REGIONAL COUNTRIES.
NICK: THE U.S. NOW DOWNPLAYS ANY CHANCE OF DIPLOMACY WITH IRAN. THAT HELPS ALIGN THE TWO COUNTRIES' REGIONAL GOALS. FOR THAT TO CONTINUE, THE U.S. HAS TO MANAGE ANY DISAGREEMENTS, AND TRY AND ENSURE THAT THIS VIOLENCE DOESN'T ERUPT EVEN FURTHER.
FOR "THE PBS NEWSHOUR," I'M NICK SCHIFRIN. ♪ AMNA: PRICES HAVE RISEN FOR LOTS OF FOODS, BUT THE COST OF EGGS CLIMBED THE MOST IN THE LAST YEAR. AND CONSUMERS AND BUSINESSES HAVE SCRAMBLED TO KEEP UP. WHAT'S BEHIND SO-CALLED EGGFLATION? ECONOMICS CORRESPONDENT PAUL SOLMAN TAKES A LOOK. PAUL: BREAKFAST TIME AT IN A PICKLE IN WALTHAM, MASSACHUSETTS , WHICH MEANS EGGS.
>> I WOULD SAY 70% OF OUR MENU HAS EGGS IN IT OR REVOLVES AROUND EGGS OR IS EGG CENTRIC IN SOME WAY. OMELETTES, SCRAMBLES, IN OUR PANCAKE AND WAFFLE MIX, THE FRENCH TOASTS. PEOPLE PUT EGGS ON HAMBURGERS SO IT CROSSES OVER THE LUNCH, HARD-BOILED EGGS IN SALADS. A LOT OF EGGS.
PAUL: EGGS THAT HAVE PUT THE OWNER IN A PICKLE. >> PRICES HAVE GONE UP 220% OVER THE YEAR. PAUL: AND THAT IS WHOLESALE PRICES, ENDING UP IN A HIKE -- WHICH HE HASN'T HIKING UP PRICES ON HIS MENU. >> WE ARE KIND OF TAKING A HIT IN OUR MARGINS AND WE ARE HOPING THEY WILL COME DOWN.
PAUL: WHY NOT RAISE IT COMMENCEMENT WITH THE ACTUAL COST TO YOU? >> WE WOULDN'T HAVE MANY CUSTOMERS WALK THROUGH THE DOOR. PAUL: EGGS HAVE BECOME PRECIOUS. >> WE HAVE TO MAKE OUR EMPLOYEES AWARE THIS IS A COMMODITY WE NEED TO HANDLE MORE CAREFULLY. PAUL: DON'T DROP THE EGGS.
DO YOU TELL THEM NOT TO DROP THE EGGS? >> YES. BEFORE IF WE WOULD MESS UP AN EGG OR 1-WOOD BREAK, WE WOULD HAVE ANOTHER ONE. NOW WE ARE MOURNING THAT BIG. PAUL: MEANWHILE AT THE RETAIL GROCERY STORE, BIG PRICES SOARED 60% IN 2022 ALONE, MORE THAN ANY OTHER FOOD ITEM, PROMPTING MEMES ACROSS THE INTERNET.
ONE GROUP LODGED A COMPLAINT, BIG PRODUCERS ARE PRICE GOUGING. AN ECONOMIST SAYS CONSUMERS REALLY NOTICED THE HIKE. >> ON AVERAGE CONSUMERS ARE BUYING ROUGHLY 280 EGGS A YEAR. FOLKS ALWAYS KNOW THE LAST PRICE THEY PAID FOR GALLON OF GAS AND THEY KNOW THE PRICE THEY PLAYED -- THEY PAID FOR A DOZEN EGGS. PAUL: THINGS ARE CONTRIBUTOR TO HIGHER PRICES.
>> HIGHER FEED PRICES, THERE HAVE BEEN RECORD HIGHS. TRANSPORTATION COSTS, LABOR SHORTAGES AND LABOR WAGES. OTHER INPUTS LIKE OUR ENERGY TO HEAT BARNS. ALL OF THOSE INPUTS HAVE INCREASED OVER THE YEAR AND HAVE REALLY MADE AN IMPACT JUST ON PRODUCTION.
PAUL: BUT THE BIGGEST DRIVER OF EGGFLATION IS THE WORST OUTBREAK OF AVIAN FLU EVER. >> WE'VE SEEN POPULATIONS UPWARDS OF 50 MILLION LAYERS LAST YEAR. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT 15% OF OVERALL PRODUCTION HAS BEEN IMPACTED BY AVIAN INFLUENZA THIS PAST YEAR. PAUL: WHY DO THEY HAVE TO KILL MILLIONS OF BIRDS? >> THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS TO TRY AND STAMP OUT THE SPREAD BECAUSE IT IS SO DEADLY TO THE BIRDS AND COULD DEPOPULATE THE ENTIRE FARM ITSELF, INCLUDING PUT UP A PERIMETER AROUND THE AREA. PAUL: BIGFLATION ISN'T THAT --EGGFLATION ISN'T AFFECTING EVERYONE. HERE, THE HENS ARE FLUFFING AND FLYING.
CHICKENS ARE DAN'S BREAD-AND-BUTTER. >> THEY WILL BE LAYING EGGS AT ABOUT 18 WEEKS. PAUL: BUT THIS FLOCK IS DWINDLING. >> THERE WERE 100 CHICKENS ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO AND NOW THERE ARE SIX OR SEVEN.
PAUL: THERE HAS BEEN A CHICKEN RUN, CUSTOMERS FLOCKING TO BUY DO-IT-YOURSELF LAYERS. >> EVERYONE IS SINKING I HAVE TO GET CHICKENS. PAUL: HOW MUCH HAS YOUR BUSINESS INCREASED SINCE A PRICES STARTED SKYROCKETING? >> 45% AT LEAST, I THINK THE CHICKEN PRICES WILL BE PHENOMENAL. PAUL: TURKEYS AND TURKEY EGGS ALSO POPULAR, ALTHOUGH HERE THEY WOULD NEVER SELL THEIR STUD EDGAR, AN INDOOR REGULAR. ALSO IN DEMAND, CHICKS. >> A RHODE ISLAND RED.
PAUL: THESE TWO-YEAR-OLD CELL -- SELL FOR EIGHT DOLLARS APIECE. >> HOPEFULLY THIS WEEKEND WE WILL BE ALMOST EMPTY. PAUL: EGG PRICES HAVE PEAKED -- HAVE EBBED SINCE PEAKING IN DECEMBER BUT SOME THINK THEY WILL STAY HIGH. >> CONSUMERS WILL SEE HIGHER PRICES AT GROCERY STORE CHAINS. PAUL: SINCE AVIAN FLU REMAINS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE HERE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. PAUL: BUT EGG PERSISTENT IS NOT NECESSARILY A HARBINGER OF PERSISTENT INFLATION. >> YOU WOULD NEED A SERIES OF NEGATIVE SHOCKS LIKE THIS, MORE AND MORE AVIAN FLU, YOU WOULD NEED THE PRICE OF BIRD FEED TO CONTINUOUSLY RISE OTHERWISE, WHAT THIS DOES IS SHOCK THE COST OF LIVING ONES AND GRIEVOUSLY, PEOPLE WITH LOW INCOMES QUITE SERIOUSLY, IT IS DIFFICULT TO AFFORD EGGS, DOES NOT RESULT IN CUMULATIVE INFLATION, WHICH IS A 5% OR 10% INCREASE EVERY YEAR ON YEAR. PAUL: THAT DOESN'T MEAN A GOOD CONSUMERS WON'T CONTINUE TO FEEL THE PINCH FOR QUITE A WHILE. THIS IS PACKING ME.
[LAUGHTER] THAT HURTS. STOP IT. AS FOR THE FOLKS BUYING CHICKENS TO LAY AT, IF YOU ADD YOUR OWN LABOR TO THE INITIAL INVESTMENT -- >> YOU BETTER HAVE GOOD REASONS BECAUSE FROM AN ECONOMIC POINT OF VIEW IT MAKES NO SENSE.
PAUL: UNLESS IN THE BROADER SENSE, YOU GET VALUE FROM BONDING WITH ANIMALS. I HEAR YOU HAVE VERY LARGE EGGS. [GOBBLING] TRYING TO DO SOME MYSELF IN MASSACHUSETTS. ♪ GEOFF: PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS IN BALTIMORE TODAY TO HIGHLIGHT A MAJOR RAILWAY TUNNEL RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT WILL BE PAID FOR, IN PART, BY THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW. THE PROJECT WILL REPLACE A CENTURY OLD TUNNEL CONNECTING PHILADELPHIA AND WASHINGTON -- A FAMILIAR ROUTE FOR THE PRESIDENT , WHO SPENT YEARS AS A SENATOR COMMUTING VIA AMTRAK FROM DELAWARE TO THE U.S. CAPITOL.
FOLLOWING THIS ALL CLOSELY IN BALTIMORE IS LAURA BARRON LOPEZ. TELL US ABOUT PRESIDENT BIDEN'S ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY IN BALTIMORE. LAURA: PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS OUT HERE TALKING ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BE MADE TO WHAT IS THE LARGEST BOTTLENECK FOR COMMUTERS ON THE NORTHEAST CORRIDOR. WHAT THIS WILL TUNNEL -- RAIL TUNNEL PROJECT WILL DO IS REPLACE 150-YEAR-OLD BALTIMORE POTOMAC TUNNEL AND CREATE AROUND 30,000 JOBS.
IT WILL INCREASE AND TRAIN SPEE FROM 30 MILES PER HOUR TO 100 MILES PER HOUR. IT COULD SAVE COMMUTERS 450,000 HOURS PER YEAR AS THEY COMMUTE. THE TUNNEL WILL BE RENAMED AFTER FREDERICK DOUGLASS, WHO WAS BORN IN MARYLAND. IN TOTAL, THE PROJECT WILL COST SOME $6 BILLION.
MORE THAN $4 BILLION OF THAT WILL BE COMING FROM THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE LAW. GEOFF: PRESIDENT BIDEN IS AT THE HALFWAY MARK OF HIS FIRST TERM. AS YOU'VE PREVIOUSLY REPORTED, THE WHITE HOUSE IS NOW FOCUSING ON IMPLEMENTING THE MASSIVE PIECES OF LEGISLATION HE SIGNED INTO LAW. TELL US MORE ABOUT THAT STRATEGY, NOW THAT IT'S BEING PUT INTO PRACTICE.
LAURA: THE NEXT FEW YEARS WILL BE FOCUSED ON IMPLEMENTING AND SELLING THE LAWS THE PRESIDENT PASSED DURING THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF HIS PRESIDENCY. PRESIDENT BIDEN, JUST LIKE DURING HIS 2020 PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN AS WELL AS DURING THE FIRST HALF OF HIS TERM, HE TODAY TALKED ABOUT HOW THE COUNTRY WAS GOING TO COMPETE WITH CHINA'S ECONOMIC RISE. PRESIDENT BIDEN: WE WENT THROUGH FOUR DECADES WHERE WE EXPORTED JOBS AND IMPORTED PRODUCT. WE'RE EXPORTING PRODUCTS AND IMPORTING JOBS NOW. FOR TOO LONG WE TALKED ABOUT ASSERTING AMERICAN LEADERSHIP AND BUILDING THE BEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD.
WE HAVE TO HAVE THE BEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE WORLD. LAURA: A LOT OF THESE JOBS, FROM THE PROJECT IN BALTIMORE TO OTHERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, ARE GOING TO BE BLUE-COLLAR JOBS, JOBS FOR PEOPLE WHERE THEY WILL NOT REQUIRE A COLLEGE DEGREE AND THAT IS SOMETHING PRESIDENT BIDEN TALKED ABOUT A LOT TODAY. THIS IS WITH AN EYE TOWARD 2024 BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT IS TRYING TO WIN BACK A NUMBER OF WHITE CAN CAUSE VOTERS, THOSE THAT ARE NOT COLLEGE EDUCATED, WHO HAVE MOVED AWAY FROM THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN RECENT ELECTION CYCLES. GEOFF: THIS IS JUST THE FIRST STOP ON THE PRESIDENT'S EVER STRUCTURED TOUR. WHERE ELSE IS HE HEADING? LAURA: HE'S ON AN EAST COAST TOUR THIS WEEK.
IT WILL START TODAY AND BALTIMORE, THEN TOMORROW ON TUESDAY, THE PRESIDENT IS HEADED TO NEW YORK, WHERE HE WILL HIGHLIGHT THE HUDSON TUNNEL PROJECT, IMPROVEMENTS TO ANOTHER RAIL TUNNEL. HE WILL GO FROM THERE TO PHILADELPHIA LATER IN THE WEEK, WHERE HE WILL BE WITH VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS, AND THEY WILL HIGHLIGHT ANOTHER ELEMENT OF THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL FOCUSING ON REPLACING LEAD PIPES. ALSO THIS WEEK, THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO BE GOING TO A NUMBER OF DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE FUNDRAISING EVENTS. AGAIN, HE IS LIKELY TO ANNOUNCE HIS 2020 FORBID THIS -- 2024 BID THIS SPRING. GEOFF: THANK YOU, LAURA. ♪ AMNA: THIS WEEKEND, FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP HELD HIS FIRST CAMPAIGN RALLIES SINCE ANNOUNCING HE WAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE AGAIN.
MR. TRUMP VISITED NEW HAMPSHIRE AND SOUTH CAROLINA, TRYING TO SHORE UP SUPPORT AS HE WAITS TO SEE IF ANY OTHER REPUBLICANS WILL STAND UP TO CHALLENGE HIM. WILLIAM BRANGHAM REPORTS ON HOW THE FORMER PRESIDENT IS DOING AMONG ONE KEY REPUBLICAN CONSTITUENCY. WILLIAM: AMNA, WHEN DONALD TRUMP FIRST RAN FOR PRESIDENT, TO THE SURPRISE OF MANY, MUCH OF THE CHRISTIAN EVANGELICAL COMMUNITY SUPPORTED HIM. AND AFTER HIS FIRST TERM, WHEN HE DELIVERED ON SEVERAL KEY ISSUES FOR THAT COMMUNITY MOST , NOTABLY PUTTING THREE CONSERVATIVES ON THE SUPREME COURT, THE FORMER PRESIDENT IS ONCE AGAIN COUNTING ON THEIR SUPPORT THIS TIME.
BUT WILL HE GET IT? TO HELP ANSWER THAT, I'M JOINED BY RALPH REED, A LONGTIME EVANGELICAL POLITICAL ACTIVIST AND LEADER. HE'S PRESIDENT OF THE FAITH AND FREEDOM COALITION. GOOD TO HAVE YOU ON THE NEWSHOUR.
HOW IS FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP DOING AMONGST THE EVANGELICAL COMMUNITY TODAY? RALPH: I THINK THERE IS A VERY DEEP RESERVOIR OF AFFECTION AND APPRECIATION FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP IN THE FAITH COMMUNITY. YOU MENTIONED THE CONSERVATIVE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES. WE ACHIEVED A HALF-CENTURY ASPIRATION IN THE OVERTURNING OF ROE V. WADE. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WITHOUT FRAUGHT POLITICAL STORM AND DRYING, BUT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROTECT INNOCENT LIVES IN THE U.S. AGAIN FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 50 YEARS AT THE STATE LEVEL.
HE WAS ALSO THE MOST PRO-ISRAEL PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY, MOVING THE EMBASSY FROM TEL AVIV TO JERUSALEM. THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF AFFECTION FOR THIS PRESIDENT. I'M NOT REALLY IN THE PREDICTION BUSINESS BUT TO THE SURPRISE OF ALMOST EVERYONE, HE WON A PLURALITY OF THIS VOTE IN 2016 AND I WOULD EXPECT HIM TO DO WELL AGAIN.
BUT AS IN 2016, THIS WILL BE A VERY COMPETITIVE PRIMARY. THERE WILL BE OTHER CANDIDATES, WHETHER IT IS MIKE POMPEO OR MIKE PENCE OR NIKKI HALEY, IF RON DESANTIS WERE TO GET IN -- MANY OTHERS, AND THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT DONALD TRUMP UNDERSTANDS, WHICH IS THAT THERE IS NO PATH TO THIS NOMINATION WITHOUT WINNING A HEFTY AND HEALTHY PLURALITY OF THIS VOTE. NO ONE SHOULD ASSUME IT IS SPOKEN FOR AND NO ONE SHOULD ASSUME THEIR APPEAL IS FORECLOSED. WILLIAM: WHAT YOU THINK HE ISN'T THE SHOO-IN FOR THE CANDIDACY? HE'S THE ONLY ONE WHO ASKED CLAIRE HE IS RUNNING, AND I GET IT THAT HE WAS A LONG SHOT INITIALLY AND SEEMS LIKE AN ILL FIT BUT HE'S DELIVERED IN ALL THE WAYS YOU DESCRIBED GOOD WHY ISN'T HE THE DE FACTO NOMINEE AMONGST EVANGELICALS? RALPH: I THINK WE ARE IN UNCHARTED TERRITORY. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME A FORMER PRESIDENT HAS SOUGHT HIS PARTY'S NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT AFTER LEAVING THE WHITE HOUSE SINCE TEDDY ROOSEVELT DID IT IN 1912.
IT'S THE FIRST TIME A FORMER PRESIDENT WAS A NOMINAL FRONT RUNNER WITH A VERY REAL CHANCE OF WINNING THAT NOMINATION SINCE GROVER CLEVELAND IN 1892. THIS IS NOT WITHOUT PRECEDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY BUT HIGHLY UNUSUAL FOR A FORMER PRESIDENT TO REENTER THE ARENA AND SEEK THAT NOMINATION. I VIEW THIS AS A POSITIVE THING, NOT A NEGATIVE COMMENTARY ON THE PRESIDENT. THERE IS GREAT AFFECTION FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP BUT THERE IS SUCH AN EMBARRASSMENT OF RICHES.
IN PART BECAUSE OF HIM, THERE IS SUCH A DEEP BENCH. THREE OF THE MOST COMPELLING CANDIDATES SERVED IN HIS CABINET. THIS IS NOT A BAD THING. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH A HEALTHY PRIMARY.
FROM OUR STANDPOINT, WE THINK THE MORE CANDIDATES THAT GO AFTER THESE VOTERS, THE BETTER OFF WE WILL BE AS LONG AS WE CAN UNIFY WHEN IT IS OVER. WILLIAM: CERTAINLY THAT'S THE ESSENCE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE ARGUMENT I'VE HEARD SOME IN THE EVANGELICAL COMMUNITY MAKE, WHICH IS YES, THE FOUR PRESIDENT DELIVERED FOR US IN MANY WAYS, BUT HE IS ALSO, COMES WITH A GOOD DEAL OF BAGGAGE. SWIRLING INVESTIGATIONS, THE LEFT CERTAINLY VOTED HIM OUT THE LAST TIME, HE IS STILL FOCUSED ON THE PAST ELECTION AND HIS LIES ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED THERE. DO YOU THINK THAT IS A REAL SENTIMENT IN THE EVANGELICAL COMMUNITY? RALPH: I THINK THE SENTIMENT IS THERE AND THAT ARGUMENT WILL BE MADE, AND I THINK THE PRESIDENT AND HIS SUPPORTERS WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR ARGUMENT, WHICH IS -- LINDSEY GRAHAM SAID THIS WEEKEND INTRODUCING HIM IN SOUTH CAROLINA, IF YOU THINK YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET TRUMP POLICIES WITHOUT THE PERSON OF TRUMP, YOU MISUNDERSTAND THE STRENGTH AND FORTITUDE THAT WAS BEHIND THOSE POLICIES. I CERTAINLY WITNESSED THAT.
FIRSTHAND, AS A MEMBER OF THE FAITH ADVISORY GROUP WHEN THE PRESIDENT WAS IN THE WHITE HOUSE. THERE WAS A TOUGHNESS THERE. I WON'T SAY I HAVE NOT SEEN IT IN OTHER CANDIDATES BUT IT WAS UNUSUAL.
THAT'S WHAT THIS DEBATE WILL BE ABOUT AND THAT'S WHAT PRIMARIES ARE FOR. AGAIN, I THINK THIS WILL BE A VERY HEALTHY PROCESS AND THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO GET A CHANCE TO MAKE HIS CASE. I CAN ASSURE YOU, HE WILL GET A VERY FAIR HEARING FROM VOTERS OF FAITH. BUT THEY WILL ALSO WANT TO KICK THE TIRES AND LOOK AT SOME OTHER PEOPLE. WE REALLY VIEW OUR ROLE IN THIS IS A MATCHMAKER, NOT A KINGMAKER.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL OF THE VOTERS GET A CHANCE TO MEET ALL OF THE CANDIDATES AND THEY ALL GET TO MAKE THEIR BEST CASE. WE THINK EVERYBODY WINS IF THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS. WILLIAM: LASTLY, WHAT ABOUT FORMER VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE? HE SEEMS MOST CLEARLY ALIGNED WITH THE EVANGELICAL COMMUNITY AND ITS VALUES AND INTENTIONS AND DESIRES. WHY DO YOU THINK HE IS NOT MORE A LEADING CANDIDATE? RALPH: WELL, I WOULD NOT DISCOUNT HIM AT ALL. I THINK HE IS SOMEBODY WHO ALIGNS VERY WELL THE VALUES, THE BELIEFS AND THE BURDENS ON THE HEARTS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE OF FAITH IN THIS COUNTRY. I HAD THE GREAT PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH HIM VERY CLOSELY WHEN HE WAS VICE PRESIDENT.
HE IS A GOOD FRIEND. I DON'T KNOW OF ANYBODY IN MY CAREER, FRANKLY, WHO HAS DONE A BETTER JOB OF CONNECTING AND ARTICULATING THE IDEALS AND VALUES OF THIS CONSTITUENCY THAN MIKE PENCE, I DON'T COUNT HIM OUT. I THINK HE IS A SLEEPER IN THIS RACE. WILLIAM: RALPH REED, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
RALPH: THANK YOU. ♪ GEOFF: THE IMPACT OF THE BABY BOOM GENERATION IS IMPOSSIBLE TO IGNORE. THE ROUGHLY 76 MILLION PEOPLE BORN BETWEEN 1946 AND 1964 HAVE RESHAPED AMERICAN SOCIETY AT EACH STAGE OF THEIR LIVES, CROWDING AMERICAN CLASSROOMS IN THE 50S AND 60S, FILLING THE LABOR AND HOUSING MARKETS DECADES LATER, ULTIMATELY LEAVING THEIR IMPRINT ON OUR POLITICS AND INSTITUTIONS. PHILIP COMP -- BUMP IS A NATIONAL COLUMNIST FOR THE WASHINGTON POST AND HE TAKES A LOOK THE GENERATION'S IMPACT. HIS BOOK IS, THE AFTERMATH: THE LAST DAYS OF THE BABY BOOM AND THE FUTURE OF POWER IN AMERICA AND PHIL BUMP JOINS ME NOW. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE 76 MILLION PEOPLE JOIN DURING THAT 19 YEAR SPAN AND THEIR INFLUENCE IS STITCHED INTO THE FABRIC OF MODERN-DAY AMERICA.
YOU BORROW AN ANALOGY IN THE BOOK, YOU SAY WHEN THE BOOMERS ENTERED THE WORLD IT WAS LIKE A PYTHON SWALLOWING A PIG. IN WHAT WAY? WHY IS THAT A FITTING ANALOGY? PHILIP: IT'S CERTAINLY NOT CHARMING BUT IT IS FITTING IN THE SENSE THAT YOU CAN IMAGINE VERY EASILY THIS FAIRLY NARROW PYTHON THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN HAS A HUGE OLD GINETTE. AND -- HUGE BULGE IN IT. IT HAS TO WORK ITS WAY THROUGH THE SYSTEM. THE POPULATION WAS ONLY 140 MILLION IN 1945.
IT WAS A MASSIVE INCREASE, ESPECIALLY OF YOUNG PEOPLE AT THE OUTSET OF THE BABY BOOM, IT FORCES THE UNITED STATES, THE PYTHON, TO DEAL WITH THE PIG IT HAS SWALLOWED. THE PIG IS STILL PASSING TO THE PYTHON AND WE'VE REACHED THE POINT WHERE BABY BOOMERS ARE RETIRING AND CREATES A NEW SET OF ISSUES WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. GEOFF: HOW WAS THIS GENERATION DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE THAT PRECEDED IT AND THE ONES THAT FOLLOWED? PHILIP: THE BABY BOOM BEGAN DURING A LULL IN AMERICAN IMMIGRATION.
THERE WERE RESTRICTIONS ON IMMIGRATION AND THOSE WERE STILL IN PLACE WHEN THE BABY BOOM BEGAN. ONE DEMOGRAPHER TELL ME THE AVERAGE IMMIGRANT WAS SOMEBODY'S GRANDPARENT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE BOOM. COME AT THE END, IMMIGRATION LAWS WERE LOOSENED AND YOU SAW MORE IMMIGRANTS FROM CENTRAL AMERICA AND MEXICO AND ASIA. WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THE BABY BOOM BEGAN, IT BEGAN WHEN AMERICA WAS VERY HEAVILY WHITE IN A WAY THAT IT NO LONGER IS. THE BABY BOOM, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A VERY HETEROLOGOUS GENERATION, BUT IT TENDS TO BE MORE HEAVILY WHITE THAN PARTICULAR THE GENERATION THAT FOLLOWED IT, LESS HEAVILY MADE UP OF IMMIGRANTS, AND IT TENDS TO HAVE OTHER CHARACTERISTICS AS WELL.
IT IS LESS LIKELY, BOOMERS ARE LESS LIKELY TO HAVE GONE TO COLLEGE THAN MILLENNIALS OR GEN Z. MARRIAGE AMONG THEM, THE MILITARY, THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES. THOSE REALLY SHAPE THE CULTURE AND POLITICS OF THE BABY BOOM IN A WAY THAT MAKES THEM DISTINCT, PARTICULARLY FROM YOUNGER GENERATIONS.
GEOFF: UNDERSTANDING THE GENERATIONAL ANALYSES ARE IN SOME WAYS UNAVOIDABLY CRUDE AND IMPRECISE. WE TALK ABOUT THE BABY BOOM AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE WOODSTOCK GENERATION IN MANY WAYS. WHO IN 2016, THESE WERE THE SAME FOLKS THAT PUT DONALD TRUMP IN OFFICE.
HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW THAT HAPPENED. PHILIP: IT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND FUNDAMENTALLY IT COMES DOWN TO THE FACT THAT THE BABY BOOM REALLY IS TO SEPARATE POLITICAL GROUPS. THERE IS A REPUBLICAN GROUP AND DEMOCRATIC GROUP, NOT UNIQUE TO THE BABY BOOM.
BOOMERS ARE ALSO LESS LIKELY TO BE REGISTERED INDEPENDENTS THAN YOUNGER GENERATIONS. YOU HAD THE LEFT AND RIGHT IN THE BOOM ITSELF BUT BECAUSE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ITSELF IS SO MUCH OLDER THAN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, BABY BOOMERS BIG UP A LARGER PERCENTAGE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. SO YES, THE POLITICS SHIFTED TO SOME EXTENT FOR INDIVIDUAL BOOMERS OVER THAT TIME BUT IT'S ALSO THE CASE THAT FUNDAMENTALLY, THE BABY BOOMERS WHO VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP WERE SHARING A SIMILAR SORT OF CONCERN, PARTICULARLY AROUND RACE OFTEN TIMES, TO SOME EXTENT ECONOMICS AS WELL, THAT MADE THEM VOTE MORE HOMOGENOUSLY THAN DEMOCRATS FROM THE BABY BOOM.
WE HAD THIS EFFECT WHERE YES, THIS WAS THE GENERATION THAT FOUGHT AGAINST THINGS LIKE THE VIETNAM WAR DRAFT, BUT OVER TIME HAD GOTTEN TO A POINT WHERE THEY SELL DONALD TRUMP AS THE PREFERABLE CANDIDATE IN 2016 AND HELPED PROPEL HIM TO THE WHITE HOUSE. GEOFF: LET'S TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE ECONOMY. I WAS STRUCK BY THIS LINE, YOU SAY THE BABY BOOM HAS ACCUMULATED AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF WEALTH DURING ITS THREE QUARTERS OF A CENTURY OF EXISTENCE. BABY BOOMERS, MANY OF THEM ARE SUPPORTING THE LINEAL -- MILLENNIAL CHILDREN, OR SOMETIMES THE GRAND CHILDREN. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE DISTRIBUTIONAL WEALTH AS BABY BOOMERS AGE? PHILIP: AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF WEALTH IS BEING TRANSFERRED FROM BABY BOOMERS TO YOUNGER FAMILY MEMBERS BUT NOT EXCLUSIVELY.
$2 TRILLION ACCORDING TO SOME EXPERTS I SPOKE TO, IN 2022 ALONE. IT IS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF WEALTH. THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT, RIGHT? WHAT HAPPENS AS BOOMERS AGE AND NEED MORE MEDICAL ATTENTION? HOW MUCH IS SIPHONED AWAY IN TERMS OF THE COST OF MEDICAL CARE OR SENIOR HOUSING OR LIVING? WHAT HAPPENS TO THE HOUSING MARKET AS A SENIORS AGE? A LOT OF SENIOR CITIZENS VIEW THEIR HOUSES AS A STOREHOUSE OF VALUE FOR THEIR RETIREMENT. HOW DOES THAT AFFECT HOUSE PRICES AND WASN'T MEAN FOR MILLENNIALS LOOKING TO BUY HOUSES? THERE ARE ALL OF THESE WAYS IN WHICH THIS MASSIVE AMOUNT OF WEALTH HELD BY BABY BOOMERS IS -- IT IS NOT WILL IT CLEAR HOW MUCH THAT WILL TRICKLE DOWN TO THEIR FAMILIES. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE THE BABY BOOM GENERATION IS SO LARGE, IT'S NOT THAT BABY BOOMERS THEMSELVES ARE SO WEALTHY INDIVIDUALLY, IT'S THAT THEY HAVE A LOT OF WEALTH BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM, -- BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM. GEOFF: I ALSO WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT ONE OF THE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS IN YOUR BOOK.
YOU WRITE THAT A GENERATION USED TO ACCRUING AND DEFENDING POWER THROUGH SHEER SCALE IS WATCHING THAT POWER COMBO. WE SEEM GENERATIONAL TENSIONS BEFORE THEM UP BUT WE ARE LIVING THROUGH SOMETHING EXCEPTIONAL, A DECLINE NOT OF THE SPARTAN CIVILIZATION BUT THE ROMAN ONE. WE ARE LIVING THROUGH A HISTORIC DISRUPTION OF THE AMERICAN EMPIRE.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR POLITICS AND OUR DEMOCRACY? PHILIP: ABSOLUTELY AND UNFORTUNATELY I'M NOT SO BRASH AS TO HAVE A HARD ANSWER ON THAT. THE BOOM SHAPED WHAT AMERICA LOOKS LIKE TODAY, BOTH IN TERMS OF THE BOOMERS THEMSELVES MAKING DECISIONS BUT ALSO THE WAY THAT AMERICA HAD TO RESPOND TO THE EMERGENCE OF THE BABY BOOM. WE ARE SEEING THAT CHANGE AND THE BOOM HAS TO DEAL WITH THE LINEAL'S AND GENERATIONS HE -- MILLENNIALS AND GEN Z. THAT IS CONTRIBUTING TO SOME OF THE BACKLASH, SOME OF THE INCREASED TENSION WE SEE IN POLITICS. DOES THIS MEAN YOUNG PEOPLE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY ARE MORE DIVERSE, WHICH THEY ARE, WILL THEY VOTE DEMOCRATIC FOREVER? PROBABLY NOT, THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, AT THIS MOMENT OF TENSION IS PARTICULARLY ACUTE BECAUSE THE BABY BOOM HAS FOR SO LONG BEEN SO POWERFUL AND FOR THE FIRST TIME IS HAVING TO COMPETE FOR THAT POWER.
GEOFF: PHILIP BUMP, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ♪ AMNA: FREELANCE WRITER RAINESF ORD STAUFFER FOCUSES ON YOUNGER GENERATIONS. HER UPCOMING BOOK LOOKS AT HOW THEY DEAL WITH WORK AND BURNOUT. TONIGHT SHE SHARES HER BRIEF BUT SPECTACULAR TAKE ON RE-THINK AMBITION.
RAINESFORD: AT ONE POINT I THINK MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE WAS MY LIFE, I BEHAVED VERY MUCH AS IF WORK WAS THE CENTERPIECE OF EVERYTHING. I STARTED REALIZING HOW MUCH OF THAT WAS ROOTED IN INSECURITY THAT I WAS NEVER GOING TO BE GOOD ENOUGH. AND ONCE I FIGURED OUT THAT WE WERE HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT SELF-WORTH AND NOT WORK, THAT REALLY CHANGED THE WAY I THOUGHT ABOUT IT. ♪ I WAS TOO AMBITIOUS AS A CHILD. PART OF THE THING THAT I'M TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM IN ADULTHOOD IS SORT OF RECONFIGURING WHAT MY RELATIONSHIP WITH AMBITION IS.
IN SOME WAYS, AMBITION WAS REINFORCING THE WORST IMPULSES OF MY MENTAL HEALTH THAT I WAS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE LAST THING I PRODUCED. THE MESSAGING THAT I GOT ABOUT EDUCATION AND WORK AND COMING OF AGE IN GENERAL, WHEN I WAS A YOUNG ADULT, I THINK WAS REALLY GROUNDED IN A SENSE THAT WE'RE ALL RUNNING OUT OF TIME. I FELT LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF MESSAGING AROUND FIGURING OUT WHO YOU WERE GONNA BE IN THE WORLD, WHAT YOU WERE GONNA DO, WHERE YOU WERE GONNA GO DO IT AS EARLY AS YOU POSSIBLY COULD.
AND IF YOU HADN'T MANAGED TO LOCK DOWN THE ANSWERS TO THOSE KIND OF KEY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO -- KEY QUESTIONS, YOU HAD FAILED. I FELT LIKE I WAS FAILING YOUNG ADULTHOOD. WHEN IN REALITY, THAT KIND OF CHANGING COURSE IS EXACTLY WHAT YOUNG ADULTHOOD IS. WHEN WE FOCUS SO MUCH ON WHAT SOMEONE ACHIEVES AND HOW EARLY WE DO IT, THE PART WE MISS ARE ALL OF THE OTHER PARTS OF THEM. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES ME SO PASSIONATE ABOUT REPORTING ON THESE INTERSECTING IDEAS OF ACHIEVEMENT IN YOUNG ADULTHOOD OR LIFE TRAJECTORIES AND AMBITION, IS THAT THE MORE WE CAN UNRAVEL THESE MYTHS OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE GOOD, THE CLOSER WE CAN COME TO FEELING GOOD ENOUGH. I'M COMING TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A WAY TO PURSUE THINGS THAT MATTER TO YOU.
AND IT ALSO NOT BE THE WHOLE OF YOUR IDENTITY, WHICH I THINK IS WHERE I WAS A LITTLE BIT MISGUIDED BEFORE IS I FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO BE ONE THING. AND IN REALITY, WE'RE ALL A LOT OF THINGS. THERE WERE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH YOUNG ADULTS WHEN I WAS WORKING ON MY FIRST BOOK ABOUT HOW WORK WAS CONSUMING ALL THEIR WAKING HOURS. THEY WERE WORKING THREE SEPARATE JOBS AND STILL COULDN'T AFFORD TO PAY THEIR RENT. AND THEY HAD NO HEALTH INSURANCE. AND IT FELT LIKE THE MORE THEY TRIED TO EXPAND THE SCOPE OF THEIR LIVES AND TO BE FULL FULFILLED HUMAN BEINGS IN THEIR LIVES, THE MORE WORK TOOK FROM THEM.
I THINK FOR A LOT OF US, IT WAS MOSTLY KIND OF LOOKING OVER OUR SHOULDERS THINKING I SHOULD HAVE MORE FIGURED OUT BY NOW THAN I DO. I SHOULD BE DOING SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT I'M DOING. AND I THINK THE TRICKY PART ABOUT THAT IS THOSE GOAL POSTS OF WHAT IT MEANS TO ACHIEVE JUST KEEP MOVING.
THEY NEVER STOP. MY NAME IS RAINSFORD STAUFFER AND THIS IS MY BRIEF BUT SPECTACULAR TAKE ON RETHINKING AMBITION. AMNA: GOOD LIFE LESSONS FOR ALL OF US. THAT IS THE NEWSHOUR FOR TONIGHT.
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