Emerging Technologies Hardware and Best Practices for the Hybrid Work Environment

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- Well, hey, good morning, or good afternoon or  good evening or wherever you are, depending on   your time zone. I'm Scott Goatee, chief product  marketing officer here at Unified Square. Now   absolutely a wholly owned subsidiary of Unisys,  something we're very excited about. And I'd like   to welcome you to our power chat webinar of the  month. This month entitled Emerging Technologies,  

Hardware, and Best Practices for the Hybrid  Work Environment. And you may think, gosh,   I've heard all this stuff about hybrid work,  blah, blah, blah. I'm not gonna hear something   new here and different and absolutely.  Stick around and prepare to be wowed.   But before we get to the wow part, what is this  unify square power chat webinar series? Well,   this is a regular discussion. We do them  about once a month and we always bring  

in a unified square industry expert. I'll  introduce our expert today in just a second.   And we've branded this power chat for two reasons.  One, we like to shameless advertise our industry,   leading power suite software and services  offering. We do stuff for Steam, Skype, Zoom,   more platforms coming soon. It's all about  consulting software and managed services for  

all these major platforms. Second it's webinar  short, 30 minutes in length. We get you in,   we get you out. And we talk about key issues,  emerging trends, et cetera, and collaboration,   and the UC ecosystem. In addition to focusing on  the slides and insights from our speakers, I'm  

gonna be popping up with flash polls to sort of  gauge what's going on in your company around UCNC.   So keep an eye out for those, fill them in  really quick when they pop up and then we'll   get you back to the webinar. And in terms of  questions, we've got a chat box or Q and A box,   pop your questions in. We'll either answer them  during the webinar or if we don't get to them,   we'll come back and get them afterwards and  we'll follow up with you, so we'll get all   your questions answered. Finally wanna thank our  partner, John Bruh. They've given us a bunch of  

speak 710 devices. And so if you stick around to  the end, but only if you stick around to the end,   we'll choose some lucky winner who will randomly  be drawn and get a speak seven, 10, that which   we'll give away. So stick with us. And well,  I think you've got a next slide that shows   a beautiful picture that speaks 710. There it  is. But now to dive into this exciting emerging   technologies for the hybrid work environment  topic, I'd like to introduce our guest speaker   Will Lenhardt. Who's a lead USI manager here at  Unify Square, knows all kinds of stuff about this  

specific topic. So over to you Will. - Your too kind Scott, some hyperbole,   there may be a little bit, I'm just kidding.  So I appreciate everybody's time today. We're   gonna get through this. A lot of the things,  some of the folks we have in this webinar,   maybe some of these things that we talk about,  may not be too much of a surprise for you all,   but we still wanna cover those things. And not  only ask some questions, but make some comments,   raise some considerations as well around kind of  the hybrid workforce and where they're coming back   and how they're coming back to the office. So  taking a look at the agenda today, we've got a   few slides, it's been a while since the pandemic  started, right. And we all sent folks back home  

or not, I guess not back home, but we sent them  home to work. Right. And now over the last few   months, maybe six months, people are starting  to trickle back into the office a little bit,   in there's some considerations. And again, like  you said, questions that we should ask about those   people coming back into the office. So we're gonna  talk about some of the considerations in questions   about sending those folks home. And then now that  they're coming back, right? So from the office to   home and back again, we're gonna talk about  some meeting room considerations, right? For   that hybrid workforce. Some people are at home,  some people are coming back to the office. So we  

really had to kind of design things and think  about some things that really facilitate some   of the collaboration between those folks  that are not in the same spot, right?   Part of that, we're gonna look at some of the kind  of current and emerging meeting room technology,   right? So there's some things that have been  introduced over the last year, maybe two years,   maybe six months that are really going to help  us with that collaboration with that hybrid   workforce. And we'll talk about those and then  we'll wrap it up with a real short slide on some   security policies, maybe not necessarily policies,  but some ideas around that hybrid workforce. I do   think that there are some things that we haven't  thought about now that people are coming back   maybe, in transit quite a bit more than they had  been over the last year and a half. So we want   to talk about that. And of course, we'll wrap  it up with some conclusions and key takeaways.   All right. So I was gonna ask you  all, if you had any questions, but  

you can't answer me. So we'll just go ahead and  keep on rolling here. All right. All right, so   with the workforce that we sent home, we've  already sent them home now it's been a while ago.   Right. But I still wanted to talk about maybe  some of the things that we didn't think about   when we sent them home, right. Because if they're  still at home, if they're still working from home,   it's possible that we address those things  now, right. So when we sent the folks home,  

a year and a half, two years ago, I guess only  it wasn't two years ago, year and a half ago,   when we sent workers home to work, what do  we send them home with? Right. Did we just   have them take their laptop home and expect  them to work at their kitchen table? Right.   It's not everybody has an office at home. Not  everybody is prepared to really do a lot of work  

from their own place of residence,  right. So what'd you send them home with?   If you didn't send them home with something that  replicated what they were doing in the office,   do you expect the same results, the same  productivity with just that laptop with no mouse,   no keyboard, right. Trying to do everything on  the touch pad on the laptop, right. It's possible   that production kind of goes down. If they  don't have the tools in place to really do  

what they're supposed to do. We talked about,  were you able to send them home with monitors,   docking stations, input, output devices, mouse,  keyboard, audio, video devices, right. I don't   have that listed here but obviously we're in a  kind of a UC environment. So you had sets webcams,   things like that, that really replicate  what they were doing in the office. Right.  

And then of course there's a lot of companies and  a lot of us that concentrate on making sure that   the workforce is comfortable. Maybe that's not  the right term for it, there's ergonomics studies,   some companies do to make sure that people  aren't getting cricks their necks or bad backs   while they're sitting for eight hours a day,  right. Making sure people get the breaks,   things like that, make sure are you sending  them home or giving them access to things that's   make sure they're comfortable, right. Now, all  that to begin, most of that is in the past,   we've sent those books home. Hopefully  you've thought about those things. Hopefully   some programs are put in place to address  that. But now that they're coming back,   the second part of this table here, some  additional questions now that they're kind   of rolling back into the office, like we say  that hybrid workforce, some are still at home.  

Some are coming in some can't stand it at  home anymore. Some are ready to come back in   the office, right. So who's coming back in, who's  coming back to the office. And how often are they   coming back, right? Is the whole workforce, is the  whole of your enterprise coming back to an office?   Or are you just allowing certain people  or asking certain people to come in,   right? That's the question to ask. Those folks  that are coming in, did they even wanna come   back in? Are they able to come back in? there's  still some schools out there that are still remote   learning. They're not bringing the kids back  into the school yet into the classroom yet. So  

there's some workers, some of our workforce who  still have kids at home learning. Right. So it's   harder for them to get back to the office. They're  not able to, right. So something to ask them.   Now, for the folks that are coming into the  office, we need to ask, are the meeting rooms that   we have, are they ready to roll? Are they going to  support that hybrid workforce? Right. So as part   of sending everybody home, a lot of companies, a  lot of enterprises, a lot of organizations have   really escalated the deployments of the UC  platforms, right? Zoom, Teams, WebEx, things like   that. Maybe they were in the process of deploying  those. Maybe they hadn't been in a process.  

A lot of us had already deployed those things,  right. But if we deployed those platforms while   the workers were at home, we may not have  been able to get into the office and adjust   some of the conference rooms and redo some of  the conference rooms and meeting rooms that   the people are starting to use now,  if they're coming back in, right.   Another thing to ask as that hybrid workforce  starts to arrive, what type of meeting rooms   will get the most use. Right. I've got some  comments on that as well. I think that is  

starting to change a little bit as well. Okay. - Good, so before we get into some of these   considerations, it's time for that first poll  that we promised you, here it is popping up   on your screen right now. So what has been your  organization's employees most difficult work from   home challenge in 2021? And by the way, we'll give  you the answers to these polls at the very end,   if you stick around. But if you wanna jump  in there and let us know what you think,   always for this first poll I always give  people a few extra seconds. 'Cause it's like,   oh, wait, they're asking, actually asking me  to do something here. So give you a second.   Do all right. 3, 2, 1 in the  poll. Well, back to you.  

- All right, I'm kind of sad. I wasn't allowed as  a panelist, I'm not allowed to vote. So I guess   my votes don't count. So all right. All right. The  last thing that I mentioned in the previous slide   was the meeting rooms, right? And those are really  important when it comes to the hybrid workforce.   And that being said, because you've got some,  again, some people at home, some people coming   back into the office, so you really have to have  an ability for those people to collaborate, right?   We've all been using some of the, like to say the  UC platform and meeting solutions, Zoom meetings,   Teams meetings, WebEx, go to meeting whatever  it is, right. But we have to have some things   in place, some rooms in place that allow  the folks that are coming into the office   to work with the folks that aren't coming into  the office. And I know that's something that's  

not new, but it's really been highlighted  in the last few months as the workforce   rolls back in. All right. So some things to  consider when it comes to those meeting rooms,   now that the offices probably aren't full yet,  the meeting room usage and occupancy may not   match what they were intended for, right. We  noticed that if the office, you've got about 20%   or maybe 50% of the occupancy you had two years  ago, you've got some folks rolling into the office   that may be using that giant conference, that  flagship, maybe even a boardroom to join a three   person meeting. Right. I've seen that happen.  We've got some folks in our office that they used   to do that. And it's okay. I guess it works for  that. But if you do that, those rooms may not be   set up for the meeting in which you joined, right.  If you join a meeting in a giant conference room,  

that giant conference room is probably not  gonna have the collaboration features that   you need if you're going to be doing a meeting  with that. So just something that we want to   think about some key considerations that  you need to need to consider. Right?   So that hybrid workforce, like I mentioned,  they're probably going to use the smaller   meeting rooms. You're not going to see those  big rooms used as much, or they're gonna use the   huddle rooms. They're gonna use the focus rooms.  They're going to go in there and use the, on the   more passive devices to do their meetings, right.  Which is great, right. I'm going to assume that  

we all have more of those rooms, which is great,  right. So they're going to use those more often.   With that in consideration, those meeting  rooms that people are using again,   because we have that hybrid workforce, we need  to think about the collaboration ability of those   rooms. They've got some basic stuff. I know that  your rooms are gonna have a monitor oftentimes,   they're gonna have a speaker phone or some sort of  audio input device, input, output device. They're   going to have a camera, right. That's great. But  are they set up in a way that allows those tools  

to really facilitate the collaboration? Do you  have a whiteboard? Is the screen that you have   in that room touchscreen so that you can utilize  kind of the in meeting digital whiteboard, like   the Zoom whiteboard and the Zoom white boarding  and Teams whiteboard, things like that. Right.   Do you have that right? That with the cameras,  simple things like, are the cameras pointed   in the right direction? Do you have the right  type of speaker phone? Stuff like that, right.   Those things in the meeting rooms that facilitates  and allow that collaboration, right. 'Cause that's   the name of the game and that is the key when  it comes to a hybrid workforce. Right.   - And we'll, as you're changing slides, it's  interesting, you and I are talking the other   day. It's amazing. A lot of the stuff you're  going through in these first couple of slides,   on the one hand you sit there as an  IT professional and you kind of say,   no, no, duh, of course I'm gonna do this. And of  course we should do that. But it's amazing how  

either you forget or how the overwhelming,  particularly for larger companies, the   overwhelming number of these conference rooms, you  forget that the motion, it's harder to get that   done. It's harder to figure that out. You lose  some of that muscle memory, especially when it's   about the coming back to the office and you and I  were joking about a conference room here at Unify   Square that we hadn't used for a while. We came  back and some things hadn't been paid attention   to, and it wasn't working the way we expect it  to. So there's a lot of stuff that it's complex  

- Absolutely right, absolutely right. Yes,  absolutely. So there's some things out there   that have been there for a little while and  are always getting better in terms of the   meeting room technology, right. That we want to  talk about, that's going to help us facilitate   and improve collaboration and make sure that  our meeting rooms are correct. right. So one   of the things that we've got is some in  room intelligence, right? In room data,   there's various things that are out there that  will allow you to really keep track of who's using   a room, right. Who's joining a meeting from which  room, how many folks are in that room. Now there's   different levels of granularity and different  levels of, oh gosh, maybe for lack of a better   term invasiveness when it comes to, no that's  not a good word for that, but in terms of the   data that you're pulling from those rooms, right?  So in data and analytics are the name of the game.   It's becoming the key to just about everything  we do these days. So why not use those tools  

to really find out who's using a room? And if that  room is being used as has been planned, right? So,   there's some offices I mentioned earlier, right?  You've got the big giant, light chip rooms. Maybe   people are using those too much for meetings that  they don't need to be using them for, right. So   if you've pulled some data and you're looking at  the data and you find out that maybe even that   room's never being used anymore, right. It hasn't  been used in six months. And maybe there's people   not stellar and they're not using it. So why not  think about, I mean, obviously it takes money and   time and planning, but why not take that giant  room, break it up into three smaller rooms and   allow people to use those, That's something  to think about, right. So in all of that data,  

is there for you in the different platforms  and different tools that are out there, right?   Another thing the second bullet point that  I think is fairly important, I think is   one of those things that is really important  now with the onset of a global pandemic, right.   We don't really don't wanna touch things if  we don't have, right. Just sit and think about   when you join a meeting in the conference  room or a meeting room, how many things you   have to touch to get that meeting rolling, to  continue to administer and run that meeting,   right. But how many things do you have to touch  in that room, right. So why not implement some   sort of touchless meeting joint, there's  solutions out there for that as well, right?   Whether it's, hey, we've got Alexa in our homes,  right? Why not find something that integrates that   sort of technology in a meeting room where  you can walk into a meeting room and say, it   probably won't be Alexa, right. But you  can say something, Alexa, start my meeting,   right. And then the meeting starts up. That's  the first part but again you have the opportunity   to control that meeting, turn up the volume,  look at the attendees list, stuff like that,   that you would use either on your laptop or on  a control panel, like in a Surface Hub room or a   Teams room, Zoom room where you've got the in room  display, right. So we need to think about that.  

Of course, there's a voice activated technology  there. Maybe even they're coming up with some   really NFC capabilities as well. We've already  gotten the points, even the old Skype business   rooms did this where you could walk into a  room and it would sense that you're there,   flip on the lights on stuff like that, right. So  we've had that, but actually starting the meeting,   we don't have that as much. So why not figure out  a way to do that, to keep our hands off things,   keep down the spread of germs alike stuff, right.  The last bullet point that we talked about, and we   kind of laughed about it, is virtual reality when  it comes to our meeting rooms, right? So we tend   to think of virtual reality, at least I do anyway.  Maybe some other folks don't think of it this way,  

but I tend to think of it as a gaming thing,  right. Where you see this guy here in the, I think   I can start that and get there, but you can see  this gentleman here has his virtual reality hat,   his helmet on, and he can see the things like  that. I tend to think of it as a gaming thing,   but really, I think sooner than later, it's  going to end up in our conference rooms as well.   Right. Maybe not manifesting into wearing a  helmet like this guy is, or wearing a device   over your eyes that's makes you think you're  in a room with somebody, but maybe more of an   onscreen virtual reality. I know that Facebook has  some things like that that allow you to kind of  

pretend like you're in a meeting with other folks  using you're meeting on the laptop, right. So   it's gonna show up, I think sooner than we all  realize as the hybrid workforce and our workforce   is here and there and everywhere else, I would  bet thinking about it a little bit more that   that ends up being more of a thing than  we thought it was going to be. All right.   All right. So some continued meeting  room tech, your rooms are good right now.  

They may have been good for a little  while, but again, are they really set up   for that collaboration, right? Are they set  up for multi-room compatibility, right. I know   the Teams is doing a good job of allowing Zoom  meetings on their Teams. They kind of the MTRs,   the Teams meeting rooms, Zoom is working on it's,  there's cross compatibility across WebEx and   GoToMeeting and things like that that are being  developed and in some ways or forms, rolled out   as well. So your company may only use Teams or  may only use Zoom or may only use WebEx, right.   But a lot of us collaborate with contractors or  partners or customers, and they may not use Teams,   or they may not be using the same thing we do.  They may invite us to the Zoom meetings that  

we have to join from a room, right. So making  sure that those rooms are cross-platform really   is important, that's again, can help facilitate  that collaboration for the hybrid workforce.   - Well, I think that last one is key. And I  know you're trying to get through the slide  

'cause we're running a little short on time, but  you know, when Microsoft and Cisco and Zoom came   together at Ignite, like two, maybe three years  ago now, and they announced this collaborative   technology, I know all the attendees were just  like, oh yes, that's the way to go. 'Cause   we don't want to have to choose this being  the Zoom room and that being a Team's room,   we're making some headway there but not enough  in my view. So, I mean, we're getting there,   but there needs to be more done particularly  on the case of the platform providers to make   that easier for the hardware providers to NFS  that self, because it's just such a key ROI   upside for everyone, including the end-users. - You bet, absolutely right. So another thing  

that we can talk about, really is a current  thing, right? Is digital white boarding,   right? You have the big giants touchscreen on the  wall that you can use to join a meeting, right.   Surface up. That's a big one, right? There's  other third-party hardware vendors out there   that allow you to smart boards and things like  that that allow you to use that touch screen in   a giant meeting. You can do the whiteboard in the  room itself. And then the people remotely working  

from home, working from other countries, they have  that whiteboard on their touchscreen laptop and   they can touch and draw and do whatever they need  to do to collaborate as well. So something to   think about, I know they're expensive or they can  be expensive and take a little bit of setup, but   I believe that they are worth it now and will be  even more worth it as we move to even more hybrid   workforce. Teams is doing a nice job with the kind  of the content cameras. We have a lot of rooms   that currently have physical whiteboards, right?  The old grease boards or even the old paper,   the flip paper kind of paper boards I guess you  call those, you gotta know what they are called.   But Teams has content cameras that you can set  up for Teams meetings that allows people remotely   to really see what's going on on that physical  whiteboard. So you can kind of see this picture   here. It does a nice job of kind of fading out  the person that's in front, standing in front   of that physical whiteboard or physical grease  board, chalkboard, whatever you wanna call it.  

And it does a nice job of allowing you to  configure those content cameras, that point   to those physical boards so that everybody in the  meeting remotely can see what's going on, right.   Obviously they can't participate all that much  because it's physical, but still it allows them to   see what's going on in the room a lot better than  it previously has. The last thing here is really,   there's some new AI assisted functionalities in  some of the equipment that we have. I have here   this little guy here from Al labs, right? So  those are really nice. This particular item has   multiple cameras, multiple microphones that when  you're in a room, you've got a few people in a   room, a few people remote, it does a nice job of  figuring out who is speaking in the room, points   the camera to them, or activates that particular  camera. Then if somebody else speaks in the room,  

it's splits the screen, et cetera. Again, they do  a really nice job with that. And there's multiple   hardware, multiple hardware vendors that do that  to use some AI for that. Again, that's kind of   the future as well, even though it's kind of the  current, but that stuff's just gonna get better,   like everything else, right. So things again to  think about when you improve your routes. Right.  

Alright. - So I know you have a few last slides,   Will, but I'm gonna come in with our second  poll question for everybody here. And this   one sort of addresses what the last couple  of slides that Will was just talking about.  

Which of these meeting room technologies  would be most useful for your organization in   the coming year? Everybody could sort of look at  what we picked there and give us your thoughts.   And again, we'll share the results of these  two polls at the very end of the webinar.   Let's give people a few more  minutes to chime in here,   do sing the jeopardy music, but I  wouldn't do it justice. Alright. 3,   2, 1 ending poll, let's talk security. - All right. So switching gears a little bit away   from the meeting rooms and back into kind of the,  maybe the hybrid workforce habits, right? When we   had folks at home over the last year and a half,  we may have gotten in the habits of forgetting   about some of the security measures that we employ  as a company, right? When you have people coming   and going from the office, there's a lot of  opportunity to have laptops or devices stolen,   theft, things like that, right. Now that they're  coming back, some of those habits may have been  

forgotten. Maybe we kind of forget, right? So  it's important to make sure our users while   they're at home and while they're coming back  to understand that no matter where they're at,   whether they're in the office, whether they're  at Starbucks, whether they're at, sitting on   their kitchen counter or in their home office,  those security habits should be the same, right?   Lock your machine. You never know somebody  could break into your house, right?   If you're gonna go away on an extended vacation,  maybe take that laptop and put it somewhere in the   house that's not really visible to somebody that  might be my break in, right. Get rid of it, put  

underneath the bed or in between the mattresses  or in the freezer or something like that, right.   Those habits really need to be the same.  Don't leave the laptop in your car overnight.   Or if you're gonna go to Starbucks work from there  and then move somewhere else and go shopping,   figure out a place to put that laptop in  your trunk. Don't leave it on the backseat,  

right. I almost did that the other day and  got called out by somebody. So just remember   all of the security habits need to be the  same. In this I don't think there's anything   too revolutionary at all. But if you do have folks  that are starting to use or have been using their   own devices, their own phones, maybe even their  whole own laptops to work from home, make sure the   security stuff is in place, pins, biometric  keys, things like that, to make sure that   if those devices are stolen, it's much harder for  the thief to get into it and get the data, right.  

All right. So and of course, if somebody were  to lose the device or have something stolen,   they need to report that immediately, don't  wait until you get home, don't wait out.   Maybe I'll find it. Maybe I actually misplaced  it, report it right away, right. Don't wait  

because there's things that your security team  and IT team can do to turn that thing off.   Lock down any kind of control to  it so that people, the thief again,   can't get in and get to any of the information,  right. That's extremely important. All right.   All right. So some conclusions and takeaways  as we get close to wrapping this up,  

right? So optimizing a hybrid work environment,  right? It's no longer a perk, but it's kind of a   necessity and an expectation, right? It's turning  out to be one of those things when we interviewed   for jobs or have a turnover, that's a lot of  the things people ask about, right. It wasn't   something we asked about five years ago, but it's  really something we ask about now. It is certainly   an expectation to be able to do that, right. I  think from the companies and the employees end,  

right. So enterprises that have successfully  implemented best practices for remote and   onsite collaboration, you're certainly  gonna have better workforce retention   than those that don't have that digital experience  parity, right. So it's really common sense,   right. If you have good collaboration  functionality in your rooms, if you have   good habits when it comes to setting up meetings,  right. Things like that, it's important. Right.   All right. In the last note we have here is  it's really important to understand that data   is going to be the key to drive progress  and optimization during the stakes of   the hybrid workplace, right. That's goes  without saying, like we mentioned earlier,  

data and analytics, it's important and it's more  important than it's ever been. We have more and   more tools that are in place to pull that data,  to see that data, to allow us to read that data a   lot easier. All right. There's lots of third party  tools out there. Right. That allow us to do that.   So use that data, just don't sit on it, right?  Yeah, pull the data in your conference rooms,   find out that, that giant conference room that  you spent thousands and thousands of dollars on   it's not being used, right. So maybe figure out  a way to repurpose it or adjust it, look at it   from a data point of view to really change things  and optimize. You've spent money on something why  

not figure out how to use it the best, right. - I couldn't agree more Will and we ask all our   guests speakers and Will did an awesome job, not  to try to the Unify Square horn too hard. But in   that last question, or last point, I'm gonna  go ahead and toot it that, we're getting more   and more requests from our clients and our  prospects to say, hey, we need to prepare for all   our people eventually coming back in the office.  And even if it's just for hybrid nature and we're   supporting Zoom and we're supporting Teams and  we're supporting Cisco, we need something that can   consolidate the analytics from all these different  systems into one place to allow us to look   across that multiplexity of platforms and  drives of conclusions. And just so happens   that with Power Suite, we've got that tool.  So it's a key thing. It's not just sort of  

eyeballing it. It's actually looking at that,  those analytics and knowing what's happening.   So I'm gonna wrap things up here. We're a few  minutes over. I appreciate everybody sticking   with me and us. In terms of our winner, we've  drawn, Julia's drawn from the magic virtual   app and our winner is, let me make sure I get the  name, right. I'm probably gonna butcher your name.   Sylvan Missio Showpad is our winner. And we  will follow up with you Sylvan and get your  

contact information, get a job or device from our  great partners at Java sent out to you as soon as   possible. In terms of the poll questions. You're  probably chomping in the bed saying, I wonder   what the results were. So for the first poll,  you can see that interestingly enough, it has   nothing to do with technology. It has to do with  that community and culture that people are most  

wishing they could find again. And  that really all goes back to that   experience paradigm we're talking about. People  want to be able to feel like they can interact   with their colleagues as easily as possible,  even if they're still at home and not with   them at the office. So that's the first poll  question. The second one, it was a more of a   landslide. People want to have that multi-platform  compatibility. So really key. You don't wanna have  

to know what conference room you're going into to  get that specific platform. You just want to be   able to go into any conference room and just have  it work. Couldn't agree with you more. So that's   that brings us to the close. Then we've got our  winner, we've got our poll results. And I think   all that remains is to thank you Will for great  presentation. Thank our listeners for joining us.  

We're not gonna be having a December  webinar. We'll give you all a break,   but we'll get back to you with some  information about our January webinar   very soon. So look, keep your eyes peeled for an  email on that. We've got a pretty exciting topic   I think lined up. So we'll speak to you soon,  all the best for the holidays to everybody,   and we'll speak to you soon. - All right. Thank you everybody.   Appreciate your time. - Bye bye.

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