Great Decisions with Dr. Emily Reichert | Climate Technology

Great Decisions with Dr. Emily Reichert | Climate Technology

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15 years ago Massachusetts invested about1 billion dollar along the lines of what we're doing now for climate Tech to create a life sciences hub for the world it's safe to say that that investment paid off the life sciences industry is an economic Powerhouse for the Commonwealth and we see a similar opportunity to lead the climate tech industry but when we think about our plan for climate Tech we're thinking about things just a bit differently and that is to think strategically and thoughtfully about how this industry can be a boost for every region in [Music] Massachusetts Dr Emily reiker is uh Chief Executive Officer of the Massachusetts clean energy center uh she leads its efforts to build a robust internationally competitive clean energy economy in Massachusetts um before Mass C uh joining Mass C in 2023 she served as CEO uh founding CEO of Greentown Labs the largest climate Tech startup incubator in North America for nearly a decade uh she spearhead spearheaded the rapid growth of Greentown Labs into a global Center for climate Technology Innovation the startups that have been incubated um thereby have collectively raised more than $2 billion dollar and created thousands of jobs in Mass Massachusetts it is a pleasure to be here at the Boston Public Library this is certainly one of the treasures in our city and in all of Massachusetts I want to thank the world Boston Organization for inviting me to speak to you this evening I really love the idea of Citizen diplomacy and the global engagement programs I know Mass EC has worked with you on those and it's just such a good idea to be having these in interchanges uh it is I think critical to solving the the big problems that face Us in the world I just want to thank everyone in the audience for being here and for those joining us online and uh you know before I say a few words about Mass C's work I just have to say that mass C is a part of a much bigger um organization that being the state government and a lot of people who are working on climate and clean energy issues and all facets so the work I'm going to talk about uh will mainly be that of mass CC but um keep in mind there's there's a lot of us really working to solve the climate challenge here in Massachusetts I I should also say that our world our work wouldn't be possible without the leadership in the vision of our governor Mara Healey and our lieutenant governor uh Kim Driscoll and the entire Administration so Massachusetts has long been a climate leader both both Statewide and locally and I'd have to say that leadership has grown further in the almost first two years of the heyis administration over those past two years uh Governor hey has taken Nation leading steps to combat climate change and those include appointing the first climate Chief making massachusett the first in the nation to establish a cabinet level position related to climate in state government um in another first the hel Driscoll Administration created the nation's first state level office of energy transformation to execute a community by Community decarbonization strategy aiming to coordinate a just transition for impacted workers and businesses and to further ensure a just transition the administration released the Commonwealth's first ever environmental justice strategy for Massachusetts and this strategy incorporates environmental justice Justice and Equity principles in all the work that we are doing at the Commonwealth on energy and climate let me talk a little bit about the organization that I lead mass is what we call a quasi state government development agency and we are dedicated to accelerating the growth of the clean energy and climate Tech sector across massachusett and our work really spans four areas of climate impact first is focused on startups and new climate focused businesses we try to help them grow faster by backing a community of researchers startups and established industry players creating an ecosystem where they can connect and Thrive we also contribute to meeting our state's ambitious climate goals by tackling barriers to widespread use of clean energy and climate technology in buildings transportation and the grid we're building an a Very Cutting Edge um offshore wind industry we're marshalling world class ports in New Bedford and most recently in Salem while addressing supply chain and Workforce Development challenges that are associated with any new industry and we're growing a diverse and talented clean energy Workforce by supporting a dynamic network of community-based organizations Labor Training providers schools and employ employers committed to a sustainable future there's no doubt that Massachusetts is a National Climate Tech leader but you may have heard that Governor Healey and her Administration want Massachusetts to be the global hub for climate Tech the climate Innovation lab for the world is how she puts it to achieve this goal Mass cc is working to build what we call a climate Corridor across Massachusetts and our vision for this climate Corridor is a multifaceted region specific approach to climate py Economic Development ranging from way out in western Mass to right here in the Boston area and I'm going to share more about this Regional strategy towards the end of my presentation every region in Massachusetts has unique strengths to contribute to this work and the Commonwealth leadership in climate Tech has the potential to create thousands of jobs and just generate billions of dollars in economic activity our response to climate change is in fact a massive opportunity to advance solutions to the greatest challenge of our time and create a powerful new engine for the Massachusetts economy during my time at Mass C I've traveled the state to meet with innovators who are growing their companies in Massachusetts and most of these innovators got their start at worldclass colleges and universities right here in the Boston area and they've chosen to stay in Massachusetts because they believe that it is the best place in the world to bring an Innovative idea to life and our role as an organization is to help them stay scale and succeed so what is climate Tech I've already mentioned that several times so let me give you a little better definition climate Tech encompasses the Innovative technological solutions that mitigate impacts of climate change help communities adapt and build resilience in systems and infrastructure because climate Tech or climate change is already here so in addition to mitigating emissions we also need to think about what do we need in order to have our communities more be more resilient to the climate change that is already coming at us some examples of climate Tech low carbon cement green steel anchor technology for offshore wind farms uh climatech is an industry with just countless Innovations and it's an industry that is growing very quickly here in Massachusetts and around the globe the Hy Drisco Administration wants Massachusetts to take advantage of its strengths and lead the industries that are going to solve big problems we've had been a strong leader in the Life Sciences in the past and our new bets are climate Tech and AI every region across the Commonwealth has assets for research to manufacturing to contribute to and benefit from this growing climate tech industry and embracing this industry will not only create jobs and generate economic activity for our communities but it will get us closer to achieving the ambitious climate goals that we've set for Massachusetts while providing innovations that can benefit the entire planet Massachusetts can accelerate the development and commercialization that will help us combat climate change making our communities locally here cleaner healthier and safer and as I've said these technologies will have a national and Global impact and hopefully Inspire climate action around the world by helping other countries meet their target and positioning Massachusetts as a place where climate Innovation thrives and this is how Massachusetts can continue to lead despite uncertainty at the federal level so I'd like to say a few words about the mass leads act uh this was briefly mentioned by Mary uh specifically the uh Mass leads Act was signed into law just a few weeks ago and it authored it authorized up to hundreds of millions of dollars for climate Innovation over the next 10 years and just yesterday we had a formal signing ceremony and celebration with the governor and leaders from the Massachusetts state legislature I see investment in the climate Tech in industry as our message as a commonwealth to the world and that message is that we are ready to be the number one destination for climate Tech innovators entrepreneurs and businesses we want Massachusetts to be the place where someone can develop their climate solution in the lab grow it into a business and find the space to manufacture it so to climate Tech entrepreneurs in other states or countries Massachusetts is open for business other countries are investing in this industry and time is of the essence for us to take advantage of this opportunity states can Flex their economic muscle and signal to the world that we are ready to lead the late Supreme Court Justice Lewis brandise famously called States Laboratories of democracy I believe states are also Laboratories of innovation but of course States can't do it alone and we do it with local leaders Economic Development officials and community-based organizations that we partner with with colleges universities research institutions investors Advocates and Global conveners like World Boston you may be wondering how this Mass leads act will make Massachusetts the climate Innovation lab for the world it includes up to $200 million in new Bond funding to support climate Tech entities as they innovate manufacture and deploy new technologies it also includes up to $200 million to support offshore wind Economic Development and it includes 300 million for a new tax incentive program that helps attract retain and grow climate tech companies in Massachusetts and that's a first so we passed this bill now what we do have a plan and in January we'll be releasing that plan to the public what I can say about our economic development plan for climate Tech is as I mentioned it takes a very Regional approach 15 years ago Massachusetts invested about 1 billion dollars along the lines of what we're doing now for climate Tech to create a life sciences hub for the world it's safe to say that that investment paid off the life sciences industry is an economic Powerhouse for the Commonwealth and we see a similar opportunity to lead the climate tech industry but when we think about our plan for climate Tech we're thinking about things just a bit differently and that is to think strategically and thoughtfully about how this industry can be a boost for every region in Massachusetts how can the berkers leave how can Central Mass lead what about Southeastern Massachusetts what we found and what our report will show is that every region in the state has unique economic assets to make Massachusetts the global leader in climate Tech clusters already exist across the Commonwealth Greater Boston has a very mature climatech Innovation ecosystem that generates R&D and serves as a financial center for the industry central Massachusetts anchored by Worcester and devans is home to a growing community of innovators working on energy storage biomanufacturing and Industrial decarbonization Southeastern Massachusetts and Cape Cod pioneers of the nation's offshore wind industry and leaders in the blue economy can build on deep research and deployment assets to become a global hub for ocean Innovation the burkers region has a near-term opportunity to comp to contribute to the climate Tech Supply Chain and cement its lead in agriculture lowc carbon agriculture technology the Region's Brownfield sites present long-term opportunities for large scale clean energy and climate Tech manufacturing the community is a pioneer Aly had the most substantial opportunities for scaled industrial climate Tech manufacturing due to Affordable Renewable Energy site availability and a strong base of industrial talent in Innovation the Northeast with its talented Workforce and robust higher education network has the potential to be a hub for advanced climate Tech manufacturing requiring High skilled labor thanks to the development of the Salem offshore wind terminal this region is on track to lead key elements of the offshore wind ecosystem so in summary the mass leads Act is a big deal for every region in our state it will create thousands of jobs and generate billions of dollars for the state's economy and it will strengthen our relationships around the world Massachusetts is and has been for many years a magnet for Innovation for hundreds of years we've been the place for revolutionary ideas that improve The Human Condition people from all over the world have looked to Massachusetts for a better future many of those people have open businesses or found work in our cities and towns many have come to further their education and our colleges and universities many come to experiment to invent and create Massachusetts is a small state that has a global impact and we want to use that impact to accelerate climate Innovation we want to take a climate solution that's developed at MIT manufacture it in the burkers and send it to be used in homes and buildings across the globe like World Boston Mass cc is a convener bringing people together is Central to our mission I encourage you to explore our work engage our staff and share ideas thank you again to World Boston and everyone joining us here at Boston Public Library or online I believe we'll now open the program up for questions thank you I'm going to capture the mic and ask the first question and that is uh to boil it down uh to uh uh an oversimplification is nuclear energy a clean energy and what's the strategy um for Massachusetts and and for the world um as we head towards a fossil as we attempt a fossil-free future well I think many would tell you that nuclear energy is a low carbon energy source and one that we are going to um need for base load power uh in the New England region and across the country and around the world for some time to come um there are not new nuclear plants being built however and the the promise I think is technologies that are small and modular and we have scientists um and Engineers working on those at MIT um there's a actually a fusion company out in western Mass in devons Commonwealth fusion and so I think we're trying to find the next generation of these Technologies in order to include them in the bigger uh climate Tech portfolio thank you thank you R kala would you uh address in what ways the federal government is being helpful and not in your efforts um and where you stand res the entire United States I'd say in general under the Biden Administration there have been many major programs that have helped us to do several things um one is around manufacturing of clean energy technology at scale and so providing funding to enable that to be set up and rapidly deployed has been one aspect of funding uh one programmatic aspect um that has come through the Biden Administration there's also been a lot of investment in early stage new technologies and helping them grow and helping them get to the point of commercialization and Manufacturing and then as well there have been um many programs and there's a kind of alphabet soup of letters which I'm sure you can uh Google at your leisure but the the general idea is how do we decarbonize our existing infrastructure whether it be buildings or Transportation as quickly as possible so a lot of that Federal funding then gets funneled through States down to the local level at which uh point we can distribute it to schools to enable decarbonization of school buildings or um to communities to allow EV Chargers to be installed uh at more scale than we have them today so I hope that answers your question I'd say in general this Administration the Biden Administration has made uh bigger strides towards addressing greenhouse gases than any previous administration so I'd say overall it's been very helpful hi uh Mary mza we just had a an election where Donald Trump won and he won supposedly on the idea that the economy is terrible and people feel they were doing a lot better under his presidency what do any of these uh things that you were developing what we have some of the highest electrical costs in the nation what do any of this what will any of this do to lower the electrical costs and make these programs much more sustainable and much more attractive for the average consumer and States all across the country well there's a lot of aspects to cost of electricity that shows up on your your bill and will one particular climate technology developed in Massachusetts solve the entire challenge probably not but I could tell you that the administration is the Healy Driscoll Administration is working on this problem on multiple fronts and one would be a recent uh permitting and sighting bill that was passed by the legislature and that is really reducing the amount of time and the amount of therefore cost that goes into developing new renewable energy in Massachusetts so that would be one example you know whenever you think about uh you the last question around federal government the more that we can do these things at scale so the more homes that can be decarbonized the more EV charging stations that are put in the lower the cost overall for um you know for the entire system so I would say that that trying to get these things to scale in the same way that we were able to get the cost of solar to come down um precipitously over the last 10 to 15 years that is a big part of the goal um in terms of Climate Technologies themselves I'd say technologies that uh help support the use of energy storage uh technologies that help us run the electrical Grid in the smarter way it it was built many many years ago and so there's kind of one-way traffic and that's all you can do to this um at this point but there's a lot of Technology out there that can help us do that more efficiently so those are some examples of things that I can think of um right this moment that can that we are working on to help lower energy costs yeah thank you for the presentation first of all um I do have a question how do you you speak right into your mic okay can you hear me now okay um I just wanted to ask how do you navigate potential intellectual property rights problems because I mean obviously it's no use making technology that that's then too expensive to be used pervasively um so the question is sorry can you clarify a little bit what yeah I mean an example so um I'm from Germany and they invented double glazing but Germany's unwilling to relieve themselves from their property rights so this technology cannot be implemented unless States actually buy off these property rights and I mean that's such a simple thing double glazing and yet it is impossible for especially poor Nations to finance this technology even though it's been existent for the past 40 years at least I think we tend to do that through um building regulations so building codes and this Administration the hris Administration has done a lot of work to update codes we have something called the uh building stretch code which is I think it's not been adopted by all cities and towns yet but by a few that are kind of out front and and uh testing these things for the rest of us so to speak so I think in in I don't know I don't know the case well enough in Germany but I can tell you that in the US that and locally um we are really trying to address challenges like that through the code system um that get more stringent over time but also allow people to uh you know take the time to move to a new techn ology so you may not want to uh replace your water heater or your heating system immediately but the next time that you do so if you have the information that allows you to make that cleaner Choice then you know that's what we hope to be able to do two questions that are similar on zoom and rephrase a bit with apologies to the questioners but I think what we're getting at here is um the impact of the um the mass leads act um on on our economy say in Massachusetts you put in 700 million or a billion um is there any way of of calculating what what that's supposed to get us in return in the future yeah so we uh did an economic study uh prior to this uh bill ever kind of seeing the light of day and over the 10year period period I believe it is around 8 8,000 new jobs um would be created and in terms of the impact I believe it's around4 billion dollar in return value um so I may not have that number exactly right but we can follow up on that it's a it's in that order of magnitude what are your thoughts and your organization's position on uh thinking about solar geoengineering geoengineering as in putting stuff in the atmosphere um that isn't really something that we have considered too much in Massachusetts we have um looked at Carbon removal into um water bodies but that's not quite the same thing so I'd say my impression of that technology is that it is still quite unproven and fairly untested except in academic environments so I'd say we have a ways to go before that's a a solution that would be considered on a governmental level hi I'm Jason a i a PhD student PhD candidate at Clark University in wiester Massachusetts uh my question is I I saw you put up a a map where you kind of broke the state into different regions and I know that you know electoral geography and politics as they are in Massachusetts the immediate area around Boston is extremely blue and then purple to sometimes red in other parts of the state I'm curious about the extent to which you are familiar with public opinion uh in other parts of the state and the extent to which there is political resistance to some of the programs Being Framed as uh clean energy or climate Solutions when uh climate change denial is more common uh among conservative people in in conservative parts of the state thank you you know honestly I wouldn't say that I've come up against any climate de Denial in this role as of yet and i' I've been all over the state and I would say in general people are fairly excited about the opportunity to it's not just clean energy for the sake of you know let's do something better for the environment always it can also reduce costs it makes your home healthier um you're reducing air pollution so there are many benefits actually to clean energy technology when you include things like heat pumps and you're thinking and um if you have an electric school bus and that isn't putting diesel fumes into your uh to your community I think everyone can get behind benefits like that and when we H go around and have conversations about climate technology um I'd say in general people are just excited to hear about it they're excited to be part of it because most people are interested in learning about new things and excited about Innovation and what's coming next and so you generally I've had very positive experiences uh in interacting in all parts of the state I would say that one uh exception is around offshore wind and that's kind of challenging there's a lot of misinformation out there and so you know it's something that we're thinking about and trying to make sure that information that's factual is U getting out there to counter the misinformation how close is Fusion to re actually being you read it's getting closer and closer closer but I'm 63 and I've been hearing that for 40 something years it's one of those technologies that has Cycles where it comes around again um there is a company that is working on manufacturing related to Fusion reactors right here in Massachusetts so is it commercialized no is it on its way to being commercialized I think yes so um I think that soon you will have you will start to see these reactors in Pilot phase and you know we'll then see how that enables us to get to scale I can't say the time time frame on that but I do know that we're actually quite close to piloting these things um out in in Massachusetts and the fact that our state is so open to doing Innovative new things you know I've heard the CEO of Commonwealth Fusion talk about why Massachusetts why they're doing it here and that's because of the kind of openness to this of this environment it's because of the talent but it is also because of the kind of willing to try new things and look for Solutions I'm wondering if we can um can't help myself World Boston world affairs Council if you would talk a little bit about the international Dimension um particularly regarding uh foreign investment which we love to attract around here um what what the interest from foreign investors has been um and uh what changes um our our new um president is is likely and and his trade Administration uh is is likely to bring in well I think the the biggest area that overlaps with our work that I'd point to in foreign investment is in the offshore wind industry we have a lot of most of the developers are coming from Europe and they have the experience setting up this industry in the UK out off the coast of Denmark um and so you know they bring with them not only money but actually the knowledge about how you get this started and grow it um which we are still in the baby steps of here in the United States so that's the the most direct um example I can think of we also have a lot of interest from companies coming from other parts of the world to land in Boston because of the strong or I should say in Massachusetts because of the strong ecosystem here because of the talent because of the companies that are already here and our aggressive policy so I'd say that that is not an uncommon request we get is is from other you know climate tech companies coming from Europe coming from other parts of the world that are interested in being being here and growing here um I have many question and I don't know which one I said but um you know that if you want to have a clean climate or clean energy you have to engagement with the industry mhm and this is so difficult and uh you know that there are so many things to control and should be under control uh for example uh the carbon content or uh clean water and everything depends on uh I have a two question is have you got any uh specific goal for example uh I am a chemist I have to say say example for example if you have a nitrate in the water you have to check under for example uh 50 PPM and under MH if you have a goal for your clean climate what's your goal have you got any tangible goal okay so this is a question about um if we can generalize it a little bit maybe what standards you're using is that a good way to put it um and let's get the person over on the in so Matt is right behind you thank you for mentioning the resource of brownfields as I think a sighting uh resource for Clean Energy Technologies um that's not a new resource and there have been obstacles uh that rening that from being utilized right now grid resources sighting and permitting can you talk about the programs or steps that will be taken to make that great resource more readily available in view of those obstacles that are preventing them from being used at this time okay thank you start with the first one first or the last one first um well let me take the last one first uh so one thing that we're really aiming to do with this Mass leads um climate Tech initiative is make it easier for companies to not only you know start here but grow here and stay here and that land use is a is a key part of that we need places for companies to be able to manufacture to test to demonstrate to deploy and the Brownfield sites are an important aspect of that I would say that um there there's two things that I would point to one is the citing and permitting bill that was passed by the legislature that is really streamlining a lot of processes for how clean energy is cited and permitted and it basically boils down to right now there are local processes and state processes and the timelines are you know it tend to add up to be sometimes five years before you can get something cited and so the the new way of thinking about it is really streamlining those processes so that you're looking at much shorter timelines because you're applying with state and local at the same time so that's that's one example I'd point you to um we are looking to as part of our climate Tech initiative really map the whole state and what the power resources are in the entire state for example um there are there's different there's different um parts of the state that some are you investor owned utilities is is where power is provided others are Municipal Light plants and sometimes Municipal Light plants can provide more flexibility and so that is um another way that potentially you can uh get access to sites where you know that might already have a lot of power and there can be more flexibility to turn things on faster so that's um two thoughts on that um in terms of tangible goals yes Massachusetts has very rigorous climate goals there's a um clean energy and climate plan that is updated every five years and we are now I should say I think it's actually updated maybe every three years and there's a major new addition every five years and that sets the targets for all industries in Massachusetts whether it's buildings or transportation it's sector specific and then we also have goals around the amount of clean energy that we want to bring into the Commonwealth and through a variety of different sources whether it be offshore wind or additional solar um or hder power so we have say very very specific goals and I'd invite you to um look at the 20 be 2025 or 2020 2030 um plans that are already out there on the mass Massachusetts state websites so so that's a a Massachusetts state government publication correct and probably the department of energy or uh um it would be under the energy and environmental Affairs executive office there we go thank you I'm interested in your carer background as the uh Dr hoer CEO so um so recently actually in uh some experts pointed out that in so I'm from Japan and uh in Japan uh so the very fewer CEO uh Dr holders CEO and that or the do holders in that company makes the the fewer less Innovation and uh so on on this premise also uh you had worked at the consulting firm and so how do you think those uh experience or knowledge skill set contribute and connect your current work and career okay thank you and then we had a person on the aisle uh a little bit further down um hi my name is Ross and I'm a software developer and uh you mentioned during your section on investments about investments in Ai and machine learning models and I was curious if we could get some more information on how learning models will help as a green energy technology and if it's a a mitigation or resilience technology and then I guess as a little bonus we know that it takes a lot of energy to train large machine learning models and we I was just curious how you measure something being net neutral uh based on development time and energy expenditure and how you do that for machine learning thank you so how do you go from PhD to CEO um I think that the thing that is the through line for me is translation and when I say that it is the ability to go from from um maybe what scientists are doing at the bench or what technologies are in terms of kind of the detailed implementation of them or the clean energy plan uh you know detailed implementation and share that at a at a a level appropriate to whatever audience that you're speaking to so you know I think that over the years I've done a lot of translation of science to business people for example um I've done a lot of translation of uh you know concepts related to engineering to audiences that you know might include state government officials that aren't as um Savvy with the specific Technologies so I would say that that's that's probably the thing that is the biggest through line the other thing is you know whenever you're a scientific researcher you have to come up with an original research proposal and there's something I think that's aligned with that and setting a vision for an organization right it's not it's not something that someone else has come up with with in the past you're always reinvent you're inventing Something New by by Nature with an original research proposal and with a company whenever you're starting or leading a company you're usually coming up with something that um no one's done before otherwise someone else would already be making money off of it or you know building it so those are two things that come to mind there that's pretty cool and then we had a question about um essentially Ai and um large learning models and their use of energy in this field well I think what we've seen is AI is is everywhere and continues to uh expand and grow and uh there are so many applications we are dealing with every single day that we don't even know are there I think when you think about energy and uh you know the things that we are trying to ensure happen with you know reducing carbon emissions there is a lot about kind of consumer behavior and helping people to um make different choices than maybe they automatically would through the amount of or the different information that is coming at them you I think that whenever I think about AI I think about data um data centers as well as being something that will increasingly I think be a chall that intersects with clean energy in a sense that that is that is a lot of energy that we need to figure out how to um make sure that uh you know we're not adding to strain on our grid in particular so I don't have a perfect answer for you there but I can probably direct you to someone who knows more about Ai and um climate Tech applications okay so we are um G to do our last question and then move on to sort of informal discussion and networking on um on the uh ground floor in the newsfeed Cafe and we had a question right down here in front thank you um I'm jet I'm for Angola schools and fellow at MIT and my question is um i' would like to know at what stage to usually engage with community in for implementing the renewable energy projects and whether you find much resistance from them in terms of concerning land conservation of for environmental groups thank you so the question is when do we engage with communities yes well when you start implementing this renewable energy projects and Technology if you and if you engage with the community before implemented that and it's your find on them um I will tell you that in Massachusetts we do a lot of stakeholder and Community engagement before we site or permit anything um it is a very much a part of I should say backing up a little I mentioned a few times the sighting and permitting bill I think it is likely true that in different parts of the state previously like different towns have different levels of resources of people that can hold you know discussions or do Outreach um and that may vary across the state but I think what we're trying to do now is be you know not only streamlined but standardize some of the processes so that no matter where you are um we are making sure that we're doing that Outreach and and reaching the potentially uh I don't know if impacted is the right word but the proximal uh folks that would be near any clean energy sighting okay so uh it's good to be in Massachusetts I think anyway please join me in thanking Dr Emily r [Music]

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