Sharing Abundance: Pursuing Technology with Rakesh Sawan

you are listening to sharing abundance in in time tech podcast we love the support and thank you for listening enjoy good morning and welcome team to the third episode of itt podcast sharing abundance in today's episode we'll be having conversation with one of the co-founder and the chief technical officer of in time tech mr rakesh savan first of all i would like to acknowledge that you came here within a short notice and just we just sent you an invite and you were here with your time and uh my pleasure and i'm glad to um get to know about your journey and all the aspects you can share with us so that we can get some insight on how we could take decisions for our futures and what all technologies um you would like us to pursue or you would like the freshers to pursue in aspect of today's domain or today's world yeah today's world folks and personally i'm really excited to have you here on this episode today i was really looking forward to it because i uh we have not got a chance to talk to each other uh like this before and i know that you can uh share great insights to inspire other people and us as well so it's really a pleasure to sit in front of you like this have a chat sure sure and thank thank you both of you right um first of all uh personally for me also it is like good to have a direct conversation one-on-one conversation both of you individually right so i'm also looking i was also looking forward for this uh we want to start with uh how you chose technology and how you became a technologist yeah right okay and um you know um let me start right and it goes back to my childhood basically and those just computers were not there so story is going to start somewhere and then we'll end somewhere else right so um uh my father uh you know like for me i was fascinated with electronics right my father used to repair somewhere he learned uh you know how to repair electrons so it's to repair so my childhood went uh playing with resistors and capacitors and inductors and all that that's how much i would went so i was for me like electronics were my passion right i wanted to be an electronics engineer um and um i was in a small village so i had no idea that okay there's something like pet or examination exist but then somewhere in my mind i i needed i wanted to be that uh then i i think it was 11th and 12th where i i did my schooling from a bigger city indoor and that's when i got to know about all of these competitions and everything and i went through pet right and uh mp in those days there were total 11 engineering colleges in mp today probably in hundreds right so um so so as i said i went to the counselling and then my first preference was electronics if electrons did not happen then electrical was the next one because it's the closest branch right i mean there's common word between you can see electrical and electronics so um uh electronics was hot branched those days uh i did not get my rank was not that good so then i i went with electricals and that's how my engineering journey started and computer science was available like you know in those days computer science was not very popular right so it was available but i did not take because i had no idea about at that time uh it was when i was in electrical engineering second year of my electric engineering but we had a course on uh microprocessor 8085 microprocessor and uh you know i got to you know use the there was a small board and i got to play with it right so wrote some simple assembly programs like addition multiplication you could do that in zero at five so i you know that's when i got hooked up with programming something something happened to me at that time right uh okay this is the field i want to build my career in um i still remember uh in 8085 does not support floating point arithmetics you can only do only to integer arithmetic so my biggest one of the big program that i had wrote at that time and 805 was to support floating point arithmetic in assembly okay so i just got hooked with uh with programming um you know in those days and that's how my career started in programming uh even though i was electrical by the time i was out of uh engineering fourth year of my engineering i was way better than the students even computer science students you know i used to study is to learn uh used to go to library read books even though they were not part of my curriculum right i used operating system books i used to program uh pretty much whole day if there was a break i would you will find me in the computers lab right during the day comparison lab would be occupied so i'll go in the evening work whole night uh leave from college around four o'clock in the morning go home sleep for some time come back ten o'clock for the classes so this is how my uh next two three years went in in engineering and then i did my master's uh from iit kharagpur uh and uh there again the similar routine you know whole night used to program like this like you know in colleges night night times right so we used to do work in night times so whole night program again some similar routine for next one and a half year with 18 months course and that's how my you know computer science journey started right and and then i got into a startup in 2000 uh i think it was 1999 my was my first job uh when i graduated from iit kharagpur uh in bangalore and um i was uh very um you know um uh i was in love with java i would say right i had programmed with fortran i had programmed with uh pascal in in the beginning of my college then i learned c right cc plus plus and then in 95 when java was introduced right and you can imagine it's like uh c is on one side i was outside like a sea change what i could do in a uh what would take for me to do day it you know it will take days for me to do something in c i would get that done in a r in java right that was a c c change right and so i was in love with java as the language the the object 200 flavor of it definitely and then the this simplified everything you can do one do multi-threading you want to do a socket programming everything was just so simple right it's it's it was very easy for you to stand up a remote rpc server and client within minutes in java and see if you want to do it'll take months so uh java was my you know the language that i wanted to work in uh so in 2019 99 when i got my first job uh you know that's what i was dreaming for right and then when i got into the company uh it was like a kind of shock for me and they are they gave me a project which was cc plus and they asked me to work on test automation right so i said okay what happened uh right uh did i do anything wrong like did my interview go well you know the college student this is what you think right okay maybe something wrong happened in my interview and they thought i'm not good for programming uh you know and so i cried for two days after that right about okay because you can see it was a shock for me right i wanted to work in java i wanted to be a developer and then i was given a job uh you know in test automation and uh in ccp yeah and um that time it was like that and i'm not today when i look at it i'm really thankful for that that decision was made for me uh right and the two days i cried and uh i made up my mind in those two days so okay i'm going to do what is being asked me to do no questions asked and i did not even talk to my manager why have you asked me to do this right i decided in my mind that i'm just going to do what is being asked me to do and do with the best of my abilities they must have seen something i don't know what it was so and after that i just put my entire focus in and i did i built the whole automation framework in as a fresher uh you know i was just out of college and i built the whole framework in uh next nine months i worked on that it was it was all 60 plus this code that i had written and the framework was all about uh you know art uh building an um you know you have they used to work on database engines so how do you test database engines like you can have different kind of queries that you need to send uh and then you need to validate the results so that the whole framework used to generate queries and everything different kinds of combinations and everything you did so in nine months i did that and then they moved me into a development project after that right after nine months uh again it was cc plus plus um and it was a database engine core engine that i used to work on for two and a half years i worked in that company it was startup um in bangalore and uh it was 2001 i think there was a downturn uh in the industry overall and that company started got impacted and so that's when i moved into hp um and um i joined hp uh on a for a product called hp output server i was the first engineer in india to you know be part of that team and by the time i left hp in 2009 uh that team had become 120 people think so i joined as a senior software engineer i became an architect in the same product and um it was like about nine years uh stint and in the same i did not change anything in between right no other job there's only one job change i did and that's the only job change i have right so and then then we started in time taking 2009 you know that's obviously i have to change i have lit to leave my job on at that time but otherwise in my whole career of more than i think 10 years 10 plus 10 maybe 12 13 years i think it was only one job i changed right so i was very you know my thinking was always you know i wanted to be uh one place and do you know whatever i can do whatever the best view right so um so it was uh in hp again i worked in hp in cc plus the product was all written in cc plus and i worked there for about um you know same product for about eight nine years right and um and then during the process technology was changing and so i learned java after that java i was learning from very beginning so i never left that i used to continue to continue to learn that while uh my actual projects were in c c plus plus i used to work in java off you know of the offline like you know when i go home or weekends i always used to build build something so i continued to be in touch with java and then i learned c sharp also and when i was in hp we needed to build a new ui or whatever so then i learned it was like a i learned within a week shisha as a language so uh um you know that's how my kind of technology career uh went it started with fortran pascal in the very beginning to cc plus throughout majority of my career about 10 years and then after that i learned many languages and today for me uh you know and language is not a barrier right for me every language looks the same and i would say thanks to cc plus because it gives me a different level of understanding see what happens with when you're learning java or python or c sharp you're not handling memory exactly it's all handled by the uh the language itself uh but actually somebody's allocating that memory for it and so people use it but they don't have an idea what's going on underneath for me what i call is i have an extra revision like when you do an x-ray you actually see the parts of the body so i have that understanding when i'm working with java or c sharp or any other language i have that understanding what's really going on here i don't need the operating system and everything i can see through and through or from assembly till you know the higher level languages we talk about so it gives it gave me that ability uh to uh to look at uh you know everything like that and i think that's what makes me a great technologist if it was not because of cc plus plus i think i would not be here where i'm today so i thank my manager for the decision that he has taken for me uh and i had no idea and i said i've even cried for two days right yeah but then i'm thankful for that decision that was made on the first day when i joined our company and that's why i say whenever freshers join i suggest trust your manager because i know what it created for me we have these questions you know okay what will happen is this the right technology many questions come under pressure and i have been myself through that process right and uh you know i i'll always ever tell everyone that trust trust your management they are doing the right thing they know better than you do i had no idea when i was joining the industry uh what is possible for me yeah i i thought i knew everything similarly tourists fresh engineers they think the same thing they think you know everything yeah but in reality we don't know much exactly because we the fresh engineers or we in general only know about what our choices or what domain we want to go right but what about the domain if um our manager gives us and we would excel in that and according to that our life would um be formed or shared like my life got shaved your life is also going to get shaped your managers are making the right decisions for you yeah we are not here to create any problems for you but then we sometimes we as the freshers we don't understand that right so my input advice to all of you is uh is to just trust your organization whichever organization you're going into and trust a manager uh or whoever you're working with mentor or manager that they are doing the right thing for you and if you can be that way then you're gonna excel in your career like that's what i did i just shut like my brain was saying something is wrong here and i say okay you shut up there's nothing wrong here just two what needs to be done yeah and when i was able to do that i can create no i'm here today as a city of the company i don't think that would have been possible without that yeah and as a fresher i think it is important to learn when you're going to learn something it is important to just trust the other person who is teaching you and then uh just stress their decisions and go exactly right you know and we always have aspirations uh like java was my aspirations and eventually i i i have written law of code in java eventually yeah and you you always will uh you know you can fulfill your aspirations it's possible but it's only when you are willing to do whatever is required out of you if you say okay you i'm not going to do what you're asking me to do but i'm going to continue my thing then it doesn't work it creates a conflict yeah so so as far as if you ask me as a technology what technologies right uh i would still ask each one of you to to learn the c and c plus a very basic foundation if you really look at it every language that you know today is written in c go and go and do a google search python is written in c java is written in c sharp presidency so c is like mother of all languages so i would highly recommend that each one of you should practice i'm not saying c may not be used extensively today because of you know there is obvious reason because very hard you know i also don't use c a lot these days right because what i can do in java in a day will take a lot of time and see so it's not about that okay we will be using c but if you want to understand any technology right c gives you that level of understanding of what is really happening in the system so from that perspective i would recommend that you should all be learning c as a starting point uh you should know how to implement various data structures like linked list right you should know how the various ipc's work like enterprise communications we call it mechanisms like files rights uh shared memory and all that some of those can only be possible in c right you can't other languages may not even provide those kind of facilities you can see the bigger picture yeah yeah so we call it building a foundation right if you want to build a solid building uh first thing you do is build a foundation right and then and that is the time that is the way the most of the time goes right if it takes uh like a year for you to build a building three months of that will go in just a foundation and within 15 days the wall show up so for me the languages are walls right you can learn any language any technology within a short span of time it depends maybe 15 days maybe a month maybe two months but foundation is very hard to spend a lot of time right so how do you build a solid programming foundation uh are we able to implement your own data structures whichever language you use right see if you can use c grade but do you have that understanding of how what different data structures are there and what do they mean how do you build it not using it because using anyone can do if you want to be a software engineer you need to not only use it but you should also know how to how to build it if you ever need to build it yeah like data structures like hash table or linked list or binary trees are is all provided comes with various languages like python or you know java and shishart but if given an opportunity you will be able to build it that's the question and i see most of the people have no idea yeah right and that's for me that's a programming foundation if you are not if you don't know that and you can learn a bunch of technologies people can people learn machine learning people learn ai but if you don't know the basics then i say okay what's the point it's like putting an ice cream on top of a gober like that's what it is it looks beautiful outside but really underneath there's nothing so my my input to everyone would be is build the foundation put the focus right now in the forming years you have to focus on the foundations and once these foundations are strong then you can learn any technology it's just a matter of time some may take months some may take two months for me it's like this today i mean i am not scared afraid of anything so uh now here i want to ask you like uh what are the traits you think that can uh make someone a technologist so apart from uh building the foundation about the technology i'll tell you one that yeah with one trade you need you need to be crazy you need to be crazy about whatever you're doing right like uh when i was in a college starts from there right uh uh my my friends college friends right they used to tell me like rakesh is crazy either pagalogia like that right because they will the only place they will find me if i'm not there somewhere they'll find me only one places in computer lab right so how you build foundation is by just just working hard just day in day out that's all you need to do and even if it applies to the college fishers as well because whenever they are into um employment or whenever they are into that drive or campus drive they always think that uh we should not be placed into a starter because they're in uh they feel that the um the pay is less and the work is more but it's all about the foundation yes and absolutely it's all about their um level of craziness that they want to put into the work they are assigned yeah and definitely i think since you're asking this question i see a lot of focus in today's generation is on results everybody wants to get hired yeah yeah right uh and we all need to get hired i was also working that eventually i'll get hired but uh but how how do we spend the time in the process higher getting hired as a result of what you do eventually if you are capable you will be hired but are we spending time to learn the basic concepts not just to get some place in some company right so how do we work like that where we just work to work not to get hired and yet we will get hired because we are capable of something so how do we how do we do that is another thing right now i see most of people uh okay i i want to get replaced in this company and for this i need to do this and i'm done i did not operate like that i was learning i was sharing with you right i was learning operating system which was not even there in my course but i was learning and not i was i don't even think i'll get hired because of this i was just doing it because i wanted to learn you're still doing it for yourself yeah doing it because you want to learn and and grow and get better in a given area and if you can do that then hiring people will hire you they will line up to hire you yeah exactly so how do we build ourselves as a capable engineer of the future rather than just to get some job right now in terms of whether multinational or startup there are pros and cons of both right uh multinational gives you a more of a stable environment right yeah uh but then there are of uh you know there's a bureaucracy there right it takes time to get things done uh so you know the definitely environment is different right i would not say this is better than worse better or worse but it's just that they are two different ball games right in terms of how they operate right and so uh it is a fresher you need to choose what are you looking for uh you know and uh you know uh i would not say um you know startups are always good right startups can have challenges too uh but definitely historically we have seen startups gives you the environment right you have to learn fast deliver fast because you know everybody is looking okay the company the everybody's looking to make money because if they don't make money then company will shut down so everybody is working towards that so there's a lot of rigor in the process on a startup company that's what makes it different whereas a big company money is already there they have piles of cash so money is not the concern so when money is not the concern things can take time and it's okay uh right and that's why the differences are there in the way the two two kind of organizations operate if you think about it what is the big company today was a startup one day exactly right like in forces or tcs or hp i come from hp hp was a startup one day and so every company goes through that it's not like one versus uh other right uh it's just that there are two different things now and there's one reason that in time tech specifically we tried to keep that uh you know that spirit intact we try to create an environment even though we are not startup anymore right they're like 13 years old company uh more than thousand employees but then our goal is to keep keep creating that environment right for our people when they join the trigger so you can see that if you all like i think you're both kind of pressure you've seen my my growth in the last 20 year and i i could not even imagine before joining here so that is basically the rigor that i was put into i was learning new things day in day out and then uh i did not know what what i'm going to do about it in my career but then it helped me right yeah so even though we are not a startup our like all the focus all the time okay how do we create that culture see it's not about startup or a multinational it's about having that culture of uh learning and growth yeah right and and we create intense environment if you think about like the the recent pressures which are joined you can talk to them the level of intensity they got right we are keep inventing ourselves in that way and we create a new concept of hackathon either it was not there when you go yeah yeah we did not we created that and that level of rigor for them what they learn in 15 days you talk to them they would not have learned in three months so that's the kind of learning they got yeah and and there's a reward for that also right it's not like okay uh right they're learning and they're getting rewarded both at the same time so we keep looking at it uh right so uh yeah so like it's not an easy question to answer i would not say you know big companies multinationals are bad or startups are good they're two different kinds of organizations and people need to choose what works for them better so in your whole journey from your first job in 1999 to becoming the cto and co-founder of in time tech the technologies you were um using and you um like work upon what do you think uh would be the upcoming technologies from tenure down the line what you would think that in time tech would be working on and what the world would be heading to right okay it's a difficult question because the future is unknown by design right so you never know uh you know just to give an example there was angular 1.5 was the greatest in the latest technologies like five years ago and now angular 2 came and everything became old right so everything that is new will become old one day right so it's in in the especially when it comes to software industry technology landscape changes very very fast right things change uh quite often but uh what we are seeing right now in the industry is a lot more uh you know if you talk about the new things the new innovations are happening in um low code and no code platforms like microsoft dynamics salesforce so see if you look at it look at the whole evolution of the industry started with assembly initial programs we used to written an assembly it was very very hard right and it was okay because programs were very small but but then as the program became big it became difficult and that's when languages like fortran pascal and cigar invented right and then it became then it became java right then java came and then she sharp came and so technology keep keep the technology advancing uh so there's a human beings we don't have to put a lot of intellectual effort in building things yeah right so every every every few years uh we get a language or a platform that makes us easier to build things right which is a good thing by the way right there are two sides of the coin always right and i'll we'll talk about that but this is where the technology is heading it's moving towards a place where anyone can code kind of right uh and so um platforms like microsoft dynamics you can build systems without doing a lot of coding right uh salesforce is a similar thing it's a platform it comes with lot of built-in functionalities and you can change a few things here and there and everything will will work right so that is where the one of the things evolution is happening in the industry is moving towards what we call the low code and no code platforms right there will be less and less code will be written in the future which is a good thing and there's a bad the the the bad part of it is that people who are working on it may not have an understanding of the whole thing because what's going on what's that what's the foundation which is what we were talking about yeah exactly that's what was my next question actually but you answered it yeah and uh and so this is one thing which i always keep a focus that is we when we talk about building things we should always use the language and the platform that is best suited for that right but at the same time we should not uh you know we should not be in a situation we don't know what's going on underneath so how do we do both is is where the magic is right you understand everything and yet you're using the local and no code platforms or the languages like java or shisha which are which requires you to you know write much less code to do the same thing compared to c for example so how do we create that blend is where the magic is yeah and that that keeps uh you're working on that look good and no good platform more powerful absolutely right so that's one area uh second lot of uh you know uh things are happening when it comes to iot internet you know in connected devices right so that's uh in um uh obviously and machine learning right those those are the things where more and more work will happen in in the future and as a company uh we already are operating in the low code no code space so microsoft dynamics and salesforce are two platforms are already working so our goal is to keep growing that right uh ai and machine learning and data science are other areas where we are uh focusing on so intrigued to know that how the low code and no code works like somebody has to build the platform wherein we just operate like uh using two two three um uh uis and the work is done but who builds a platform like uh would there be any understanding of building the platform who would be the people who are building the platforms or um developers right so there will be software developers who are building those platforms so the uh the number of developers would be less now rather than um the people who are managing those uh modules so there'll be there'll be two categories of people right the people who are building it and people are using it so the people are using it doesn't have to have as much understanding of the whole platform as much as the developers who are building it right so it's easy so which means that there are more people who can actually uh build uh things right because they don't need to have not everybody needs to be an engineer right so that's the so it will become because it's easy uh to build things right so and so you will need less and less developers with with a greater insight about uh you know the uh workings of the platform and so it's like a there will be rebalancing will happen where you will need less developers and uh uh obviously less hardcore developers they'll still be developers but not like hardcore developers who needs to understand everything so it depends on what what inspires somebody right you you just want to build and uh i don't want to understand how it's you know working then maybe that's that's good microsoft dynamics is a great platform for it but if you are somebody who really you know it is i want to know how it works internally then maybe you know the you you should be on the other side of where you're actually building those crack phones so it also depends on people's capability and their own uh inspiration what inspires them to me if you ask me i i it uh you know it in this other way around right for me okay how do you build a platform that is passionate yeah exactly we get we got it yeah so one thing i just wanted to ask from the previous conversation that we were having about uh people learning new technologies and building the foundation so at that time uh what i see in today's world is uh freshers or like people who are in college right now they are putting in their money and their efforts and learning but uh they are uh they're learning from course they're doing self-learning as well they're going to coachings as well uh so what do you think are the places that they they are lacking in so what is uh that barrier you think that if they can overcome that uh they will be in the right direction to pursue yeah uh i think it's kind of we talked about this there is a focus on results people want people are learning to get something out of it and that's where the challenges are right when you are learning to get some you're not learning to learn you're learning to get something that is where the challenge is so is somebody going to a course just to learn only not worrying about what will happen later why i'm learning this right asking that question uh and i see most of the time people are learning because they want a job yeah and that's where the challenges so it's not a learning itself is a problem you can learn but why are you learning it are you inspired about it you want to know about something or you just want to get a job and that's why you're learning it so it's basically the perspective that they're working for exactly now everybody needs a job i'm not saying that we all need a job i also needed a job but i never before i learned something i did not ask the question okay i should do this only because i'll get a job right i learned because i wanted to learn that's so it that's what i would say is is everything is great whatever people are learning right but why are we learning is a question because people do a lot of ai and machine learning and i have no idea why people do that yeah right because they think that that's where the industry is and that's where the jobs are that's the blend you were talking about that people are um eager to learn the ui or that module which they want to work but not for the development part because they find it um interesting and also people feel that that's where the job opportunities are yeah yeah so you learn only what is needed in the market and that is where the challenge is right now we should learn that i'm not saying we should not but uh but we should it's a balance of the two right uh yeah do we understand the fundamentals right learning to learn and then align with the market so one last question uh for you and it will give insights to people in college and were pursuing technology so what does a cto look for when he goes for interview and what does he uh us keep his questions about and what uh what he wants from uh the new beginners yeah and you know i can answer this question for myself because every cto might have a different way of looking at it but the way i look at it right um i look at when i interview people i look at their basic fundamental programming skills right it doesn't matter which language they're using whether it is java or python or c sharp or see it doesn't matter the language but do they have the basic fundamentals right uh in do they understand uh right you know let's say for example uh data structures like do you understand what is stack data structure where it is used how it is used there are types what are different data types we have got what are the mem how much memory do we need right and all of that so you can go on like that right like books are written on that so unfortunately people don't read books this two these days they go to google and search so their knowledge is limited but that's what i look for is do does people does the person understand the basics because for me if somebody has put the effort to understand the basics at that level that person can do anything you might know ai machine learning i'd hardly ask any question and machine learning because you know anyone can do this this may i have machine learning right you don't need to know a lot of things there are libraries available you just go and use it what is there any and machine learning everybody is going after that right now but like there's nothing over there as a developer what is your contribution to it that's the question are you building ai algorithms you're not are you building neural network algorithms you're not and that's what machine learning is all about what we are doing these days in air and machine learning learning is using those algorithms yeah but for me i'm looking for a person who is building those algorithms and what are the traits on the personal front that you look for yeah great question couple of things right uh first is uh are you hard working right are you going to put the effort right uh people can what i have seen in my life is people can learn anything as long as they're willing to put the time and energy into things so that's the the most important characteristic is are we willing to put the time and effort into learning things right i would say that's the critical part of it okay rest all will follow right you know once you once you're willing to put uh the time and effort and everything will follow after that the other aspect is okay uh people have this okay i want to do this xyz whatever they've made up in their mind uh and not willing to listen to other people about what they have to say that's something that i would not prefer because it become difficult you know it becomes difficult because person want to go somewhere and and the organization is taking want to take him somewhere else because organizations are better and understanding maybe but then it will not work because person already has some something in there in our mind and as we shared earlier that we as a freshers we really don't know anything so if we get stuck to our point of view then it will not work eventually yeah yeah having conversation with a technologist and understanding like what is your point of view is helping us to make us better in our future and taking decisions and choices actually like i choose to work with this so i will awesome and one thing i can say and this is something which i learned very early in my career as a technologist right i am a hardcore of the technologist at the same time i don't see technology is an end it's not the end goal it is a means to an end it is the technology that you use something to achieve uh something for our customers or the end users right uh and this is very important of the technologies and i got this inside very very early in my career probably for the experiences i have had is that technology is a means to an end and so i don't get attached with any technology because that's not the end it's just a means so most of the time what happens is the the pressures when we start we get attached oh i want to learn xyz i want to work on this but it's just a means to an end that's not an end so my advice to everyone is to not get attached with anything right just be open yeah it is basically what i'm getting is what you uh want to build out of it exactly exactly what you can build uh who will use that's more important than the technology you're using yeah yeah in our perspective we try to fit ourselves in some technology and the domain and we all only want to work in that particular world but and we want to develop or create something for our end users but it's not the part we should um be open for every technology that's because it's for creation focus should be on the end user and customer and what they need and then use the right technology that is needed for that which could mean at times uh you know is using low code no code platform because that suits the best or using scripting languages to build something answer can be anything so that's how i look at technology these days and i at the same time i'm really good at technology too so i'm not saying technology is not important but i don't look at it as a it's more of a perspective right i don't look at it as an end it's a means to an end it gives you better and you can be more effective in the end with that perspective yeah i'm glad to learn that perspective from you because it opened up something from me for me actually so the question about uh one of your program you started for the beginners and freshers who are just um entering the engineering domain you started your program named as culpabrickshipping uh tell us something about palpable okay great so it was uh 2019 uh see this is always my passion right technology has been my passion and uh and i always want to contribute in people's life like especially people coming out of colleges and uh as part of end time taking doing that right when we were when we started in 2009 since then we have been uh been one of the focus is how do we help our you know students come in our colleges how do we build them with a solid technology so we've been doing that and we have seen the results of it many other people are not working within time deck right now but they're really doing great in their lives right and that was always been the vision um but then i think that was uh that's getting limit it was limited right okay people who are part of intention only will get benefited so that is where uh you know i started this initiative called rickshaw where uh we can help students who are still in colleges uh and may or may not be part of intent right and so again the purpose is same how do we uh how do we uh you know um build them as a solid technologist right so what we talked about like building their basic fundamentals and you know understanding of various concepts right so that's what we teach them in culprit uh and and we have been doing it since 2019 uh august 15th 2019 when we started india's independence day on that day right and we've completed about two years uh and then hundreds of students have gone through it so far and uh you know i've i've seen people some some students specifically who have really done uh you know the work that we have the way we ask them to do they actually had five job offers in their hands that's that's the possibility yeah power and possibility of the fundamentals that people are lacking now yeah and then one of the students who got job was sharing with me certain concepts he learned and in the interview they were asking okay where did you learn this concept like because nobody teaches that right you know people don't understand many other times so when you share okay this is what you know i went to call praksha and i'm learning from there right so people are surprised and amazed at the kind of learnings people are making in the program right now right so my again invitation to you is open for all uh if you are committed for your own learning there cannot be better platform than calculation free and it's free of cost it's free yeah we don't charge anything i'm so glad for this initiative because people would be benefited and um they'll have extraordinary results in their life absolutely yeah thank you so much thank you thank you very much thank you both of you thank thank you for listening to sharing abundance be sure to visit our website and check out our other episodes at intimetech.com that is i n t i m e t e c dot com thanks again for listening

2022-05-02 13:38

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