Gouf VS Dom: Which one is the BEST mass-production MS? (Gundam Lore/ Universal Century [OYW])

Gouf VS Dom: Which one is the BEST mass-production MS? (Gundam Lore/ Universal Century [OYW])

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hi everyone gundam facts here for a third  and brand new episode of our special edition   lore of the Universal Century  today we're going back to the   lore of the One Year War in an attempt  to answer a particular question which is in this video we are going to try to determine  which one of these mobile suits is the best mass   production model of course i'm aware that the  notion of better is something to manipulate with   extreme caution so in order to make a strictly and  unpersonal we are going to evaluate both models   partially and with an objective eye this means we  are basing the evaluation on 5 different criterias   which will be used to determine both  machines capacities on different aspects   but let's start by the beginning we will now  properly introduce both machines the Gouf   codenamed MS-07B was a close-range mobile suit  introduced during the one-year war by Zeonic the   weapon manufacturer who had pioneered mobile  suit's business and had made its fortune by   developing the Zaku I and the Zaku II lines the  Gouf series was initially designed specially for   the Earth's invasion this new series was supposed  to replace the now-aging Zaku Ground Type which   has shown its limitations and honestly seemed  a dead-end from a technological point of view   of course the Zaku Ground Type had spawned  few variants but it had became clear to   everyone that the J-series needed a  drastic evolution in order to start   a next generation line as shown by its  name the MS-07B aka the Gouf Type B or   was not the first incarnation of the Gouf series  the first incarnation was actually the YMS-07A   Gouf Prototype which was a drastic  departure from the Zaku Ground Type   but still retained some of its features such  as the external pipes when testing on the Gouf   Prototype were finished the Principality deployed  a streamlined version in march UC79 known as   the Gouf A-Type the 32 completed Gouf A-Type  were actually never meant for mass production   after all there were guinea-pig mobile suits  too and Zeonic wanted to test extensively the   redesigned basic frame before adding the  optional equipment of the Gouf Prototype   this meant that the Gouf A-Type wasn't equipped  with the signature heat rod and the 75mm machine   gun hand which were technologies which had already  been tested on the Gouf Prototype in july of   the same year the development of the B-Type was  completed in comparison with the A-Type it wasn't   that different it was more refined yes and had the  heat rod and machine gun hand installed but these   were the only major differences as a close-range  mobile suit the Gouf B-type or the regular Gouf   was quite difficult to handle since it required  to approach the enemy to be effective because of   that the Gouf was more popular with aces and  experienced pilots than your average grunt   when the Dom was introduced the Gouf-line  found itself in a delicate situation and on   the verge of being overshadowed fortunately  for the Gouf but unfortunately for Zeon   to defeat at the battle of Odessa proved that both  designs wouldn't be enough to win the war for Zeon   and the two designs coexisted for the rest  of the war on the remaining fronts due to a   lack of centralized infrastructure to choose a  predominant model between the two mobile suits   on the other hand we have the MS-09B nicknamed  the Dom unlike the Gouf the Dom series were not   developed by Zeonic but instead by its  concurrent Zimmad which had initially   competed and failed against Zeonic's Zaku I  by presenting their own mobile suit the Zudah   now the failure of the Zudah was partially because  of its flaws but also because Zeonic had exploited   said flaws to shame it publicly and Zimmad was  not trying to reinter the mobile suit market   after the unexpected success of their Gogg which  had became a reference for amphibious mobile suits   the heavy mobile suit known as the Dom was Zimmad  new product and despite being planned to compete   against the Gouf had a very close relationship  with its opponent why well because the Dom was the   end result of backroom deals between Zimmad and  Zeonic and the byproduct of an exchange of favors   Zimmad was able to obtain a Gouf from Zeonic and  heavily modified into the Gouf Test Prototype   which was used to test a brand new monoeye camera  with a X-movement array a new cockpit innovative   less spiked shoulders and the legs received  thrusters enhancers which paved the way to the Dom   hovering jet engines the Gouf Test Prototype was  also outfitted with a prototype heat (saber) which   became a norm for the rest of the Dom series the  obtension of the Gouf which later became the Gouf   Test Prototype was not the result of industrial  hijacking Zimmad had previously created a   competitor to the Gouf Prototype named the YMS-08A  High Mobility Type but had realized the design was   not sufficient to meet the expectation required  instead they gave or at least sold the data to   Zeonic something which proved instrumental in the  completion of the Gouf B-Type so in the end Zeonic   paid back the favor by letting them unofficially  use the Gouf as a base for the Dom line once the   evaluation of the Test Prototype was completed  Zimmad sent back their data to their plant in   Side 3 which immediately produced the next step  which was the Prototype Dom matriculated YMS-09B   two units were completed and sent back to Earth at  the California Base after some field testing the   prototype gave amazing results and the production  of a cheaper version the MS-09B Dom was approved   the Dom officially appeared in september UC79 but  did not became a common model before november UC79   still its frame was much more explored than the  Gouf and dozens of variants continued the Dom line   even before the official mass production of  the base model now is the time to examine both   machines and determine which was the best mass  production model of the two our first criteria is   about their stats so their technical specification  which mirrors their own paper performance   first about their head height the Gouf is 18.2  meters tall against the taller Dom towering at   18.6 meters Late UC taught us that the smaller  a mobile suit is the less likely it is to be   shot down by an enemy attack so with this in  mind the Gouf shorter height play in its favor   in terms of weight we have a similar situation  the Gouf weighting 58.5 metric tons is lighter   than the Dom which weighs 62.6 metric tons of  course the Dom is a heavy mobile suits while the  

Gouf isn't one but we can still conclude that the  Dom is heavier than the Gouf and has less agility   as a result however the Dom with its 1270 kilowatt  of generator output has a more powerful generator   than the Gouf and its 1034 kilowatt generator  output in the same vein the max acceleration and   the thrust of the Gouf respectively of 0.54G and  40.7 tons are heavily outclassed by the 0.71G max   acceleration and the 58.5 tons of thrust of the  Dom the Dom has also higher detection capacities   than the Gouf and exceeds them by nearly 2  kilometers on the other end the Gouf has a   better running speed than the Dom and is more  mobile as long as the Dom doesn't use its jet   engines at maximum output so of the seven stats  we examined the Gouf only have three of them in   its favor so despite a close match the Dom seems  to be better than the Gouf or at least on paper   now we are going to compare the Gouf and  the Dom with their frame versatility being   used as a criteria but what is exactly the frame  versatility simply enough the frame versatility   is the capacity for a mobile suit design  to be modified in order to spawn variants   the more variants a mobile suit has the better  is its frame versatility however the number of   variants is not enough to define the versatility  of a frame for a frame to be highly effective   it must allow the development of variants  with very diverse weapon equipment but also   variants specialized in certain environments for a  mobile suit to to be considered a successful mass   production model it must not only be effective  on the field but also be economically affordable   mobile suits like the GMs which frame can be  adapted for various environments as seen with   the GM Desert Type GM Aqua or GM Cold District  Type and for specialized purposes as seen with the   GM Sniper Custom GM Cannon or GM Light Armor are  considered among the best mass production units   as their frame makes their manufacturers save a  lot of money and efforts let's look at the Dom   and the Gouf frame instead the Dom frame while  not being universally perfect is a masterpiece   despite its thickness the frame has shown  to be easily adaptable and easily supports   specializations it supports artillery roles  as shown by the creation of the Dom Cannon I   and the Dome Cannon II or even high mobility  ground roles are showcased by the Dom High   Speed Experimental Type the Dom Funf a variant  with an exaggeration of the Dom versatility   is also a testament of the great effectiveness of  the Dome frame and even spawned many models when   modified with parts from different other machines  as shown by the Dom Tropen obtained when combining   the Funf with Dom Tropical Test Type parts or the  Dom Bei Nicht obtained when using Rick Dom parts   the Dom frame is also very versatile when it  comes to environmental adaptation since the   Dom Tropical Test Type is anterior to the regular  model we aren't going to consider it a valuable   example but still it showed that the Dom line had  something for jungle combat the frame of the Dom   could support with minor modifications a lot of  different environments artic combat and prolonged   fight in snowy regions were made possible by  the Dom Cold Climate Type and the Dom frame   also showed to be compatible with desertic warfare  through the Dom G-type also known as the Dowadge   more surprisingly the Dom frame proved to be  better than the Zaku frame when it came to   amphibious adaptation while the Zaku Marine was  a resounding failure the Dom was able to spawn   a decent hybrid amphibious/surface mobile suits in  the form of the Dom Mermaid which is another proof   of the great versatility of the Dom frame the last  proof is obviously the Rick Dom itself after all   transforming a space mobile suit into a ground  mobile suit is not that difficult but the reverse   is very hard the Dom spawned the Rick Dom which is  impressive on its own but also through very minor   modifications such as by replacing the jet engines  with rocket engines which is even more impressive   in comparison the Gouf is of a poorer quality of  course the Gouf frame has proved to be well fitted   for weapon specialization after all the Gouf had  spawned multiple variants with various specialized   weapons loadouts the most common example being  the Gouf Heavy Arms Type which has two 85mm   machine gun hands and a 30mm headmounted machine  gun there is also the Gouf Combined Test Type   which was the first Zeon mobile suit to use the  Core Block System and had a dead copy of the Core   Fighter the Little Dopp which plugged in its back  MSV-R introduced us to two other variants which   are the Gouf Vijayanta meant to be more mobile  and breach obstacles so to be used as a scout and   protect other mobile suits and the Gouf Tactical  Assault Type which is a step over the Gouf Heavy   Arms in term of firepower as it has a gatling  cannon inherited from the Zaku Cannon and a   composite weapon made of a firethrower a machine  gun a rifle and even a small rocket launcher   however the versatility of the Gouf frame  disappear when it comes to environmental   adaptation aside the Gouf Hunter which is a  variant specialized in jungle warfare and the   Desert Gouf which is a failed prototype made for  desertic warfare the Gouf doesn't seem to have   spawned any other significant variants specialized  for hazardous enviornments which is the proof that   the Gouf frame is either too difficult or too  costly to work with to produce such variants   either way thid shows that the Gouf  frame is extremely bad in this field   of course the Gouf series is known for being  extremely well-shaped for aerodynamically designs   and that's why the first mobile suits capable of  self-sustained flight were the Gouf Flight Test   Type and later the Gouf Flight Type but no this  will be not the redemption for the Gouf frame   why well because we're considering the regular  Gouf so the B-Type and all the Gouf Flight Type   are developed from the Gouf A-Type and not the  B-Type while the A and B Types may be very similar   remember that the B Type frame is streamlined in  comparison with the A-type so less versatile which   mean that the successes of the A-Type frame  cannot be attributed to the B-type as well   so in term of frame versatility the Dom is again  superior to the Gouf time for our third evaluation   now we are considering the inbuilt arsenal of both  mobile suits but let's explain what it means first   inbuilt weapons are basically all the weapons  a mobile suit possess which are not handled   but are directly integrated in the mobile suit  frame for some mobile suits they are mounted in   the head as seen with the RX-78 60mm vulcan guns  but it is also very common for other mobile suits   especially artillery units like the Guncannon  to have the weapons fixed on their shoulders   or on their arms by definition you can't disarm a  mobile suit of its inbuilt weapons of course you   can disable or destroy them but you get the  point these inbuilt weapons are going to be   the last thing which will allow a mobile suit to  continue the combat after the main weapon is lost   as you can easily understand having inbuilt  weapons is important for a decent mobile suit and   most important for a mass production model since  rookies tend to lose their weapons pretty easily   so let's compare the Gouf and the Dom inbuilt  arsenal shall we the Dom inbuilt arsenal is   pretty restricted and quite confusing the only  built weapon it has is a chest mounted scattering   beam gun now at first sight this seem to be a very  good asset after all beam weapons are extremely   effective but in that case this weapon is quite  shitty into term of offensive capabilities   the fact is that the beams fired by this weapon  aren't powerful enough to even scratch the armor   of enemy mobile suits and can barely damage  the sensors and this only ar close range   then why did they retained it well in the Rick  Dom for example this feature became optional   and the hole in the armor of most Rick Doms  are actually fake ones pilots could demand   to have one installed of course but unlike  the Dom it wasn't a standard feature anymore   now this weapon was very useful on some occasions  when fired on an enemy mobile suit the fired   beams would act as a sort of makeshift flash  grenade and honestly blinding the enemy for   several seconds would come handy if as a Dom  pilot you had your heat saber ready to slash   but frankly it wasn't the best weapon and as an  inbuilt asset it was kind of mediocre the Gouf   didn't have such problems in fact the Gouf had  not one but two inbuilt weapons the first one was   the 75mm machinegun hand which were machineguns  installed inside the fingers of one of the hand   unlike the 60mm vulcans they could actually damage  mobile suits and were particularly effective   against aircrafts aside the cost and unpracticity  it was rather a good tech which allowed the Gouf   to be able to continue mid-range combat even  after the loss of its main weapon the second   inbuilt weapon of the Gouf is the heat rod which  is mounted on the other hand and didn't compromise   the hand manipulator as its name suggests the heat  rod is a thick metallic rope which is usable in   many different ways not only it can be used as a  simple grappling weapon but it can also be used as   a sort of flayer in order to destabilize the enemy  the best features the rod is electrified and can   deliver powerful shocks capable of knocking down  the pilots and the monitors of a high performing   mobile suit like the RX-78 Gundam and the rod can  also be super-heated and used to slice the enemy   like a heat hawks or heat saber/sworld would do  the Gouf in-built weapons were unconventional   for sure and more difficult to use than  the Dom's but they were actually really   well made and surely made the Gouf pilot less  easy to disarm that its collegue inside a Dom   so in terms of inbuilt weapons the Gouf is  without questions this time superior to the Dom   now let's talk about both suits tactical use  the tactical use of a mobile suit is basically   the way in which these mobile suits can fit  in the grand shame of things and how can it   impact the global strategy of the entire army in  short terms we're considering these mobile suits   with the eyes of a Zeon high officer who would  want to see which of them would be the best   assets for its military campaign we will have  to remind ourselves that the Gouf was intended   to phase out to the Zaku Ground Type and that the  Dom was meant to surpass the Gouf this being said   we can conclude that both models were made to  replace the Zaku Ground Type so in order to be   tactically reasonable they would need to be able  to fit the same role which means they would have   to be a unit capable of fighting in large numbers  guarding facilities disperse guerilla groups   and so on and as soon as we say that as a Zeon  commander we realize the problems with the Dom   the Gouf is about 1vs1 combat mostly but episode  22 of Mobile Suit Gundam showed us that the Gouf   can operate in large numbers as a sort of upgraded  Zaku Ground Type squadron and honestly they did   the job correctly for grunt antagonists but  when we think of the Dom it becomes problematic   the Dom is a heavy mobile suit with almost no  inbuilt weaponries so you can forget fighting   against guerilla groups unless you use the  120mm machinegun which is not the best weapon   for the Dom and is pretty much a waste against  civilians honestly the Dom is meant to strike   hard and fast and in a certain way it's a sort of  Blitzkrieg tactic that the Dom is meant to carry   in Stardust Memory the Dom Tropens of the  Delaz's fleet showed us how the Dom should   perform basically first the Dom squad needs fire  support in that case in the form of the Xamel   then they burst into the base butcher every  mobile suit using their superior mobility   and then retreat when the fire support ends the  scene also shows us that without this fire support   the Dom sluggish and not that maneuverable  would be easily picked up by its enemies   this is exactly the reason why we never saw  platoons exclusively made of Doms in the franchise   and why they either operate by group of three as  seen with the Black Tri-Stars or either why only   one Dom-type mobile suit is assigned to a platoon  as seen with the Midnight Fenrir Corps so sending   out waves and waves of Doms is practically a  waste the Dom is tactically very useful but as a   replacement of the Zaku Ground Type well good luck  with that not only it would be ill-suited for the   pacification and the patrolling of the countryside  but it would also become dull weight in the case   of trench warfare so as a replacement the Dom is  a poor choice while the Gouf is a decent but not   outshining mobile suit now about something you  would want to know as an officer how long till   the units reach the frontline how can i move them  effectively with the Zaku Ground Type there were   four options either you embark the units on a Fat  Uncle class and hope the copter is not destroyed   mid-air either you transport each Zaku via Samson  truck either you move them one by one with their   own feets or either you embark them on Dodai YS  bombers the last option is something you would   want to remind when on the Dodai the Zaku can  still fire and can benefit of the weapons of the   bomber as well before being dropped tactically  it's the perfect match now about your Doms they   are much larger than the Zakus so you can put  them neither on the Dodai neither on the Samson   you can put them into the Fat Uncles but it's  not the best deploying option in the world   the Dom have a great hovering speed and surely  will be much faster on their own than your Zakus   but you will need plenty of fuel to transport them  and in the case the terrain is not flat anymore   checkmate the Gouf on the other hand doesn't  have all these problems it fit in the Fat Uncle   in the Samson too and is even better than  the Zaku when it comes to using the Dodai   why well because the Gouf has something the Zaku  and the Dom lack which is an amazing jumping   capacity with the Zaku the Dodai was a sort  of one-way hoverboard if the Zaku was hit or   jumped down the Dodai it couldn't really place  itself back on the bomber even if it wanted to   on the other hand the Gouf could actually do  it on the condition that the crew of the Dodai   was aware that the Gouf pilot planned to jump back  to do such move with a Zaku the Dodai was merely   a transporter but with the Gouf it was a proper  sub-flight system hell even in Late UC sub-flight   systems were used so it showed that tactically  they remain one of the best assets in the time of   mobile suit warfare here we can say that the Gouf  was a better replacement for the Zaku Ground type   and had a better deploying rate so in terms of  tactical use the Gouf is again superior to the Dom   now we are basing our fifth and last  evaluation using a down to earth criteria   i'm obviously talking about the ratio between  the screen time appearance of both models and   their destruction rate so let's see which of the  Gouf or the Dom is actually the most survivable   the first Gouf introduced in the franchise is the  mighty unit of Ramba Ral aka the Blue Giant this   Gouf appears back in episode 12 of Mobile Suit  Gundam and is the new scooby-doo antagonist until   episode 19 where the Gouf pierces his backpack  which destroy the unit the Gouf B-Type come back   in episode 22 in larger numbers at the beginning  of the episode one Gouf which is defending one   of M'Quve's bases jouts with the gundam with  its heat hawks before being fatally pierced by   the beam saber and blowing up as well later in  the same episode another Gouf is able to knock   down the Gundam but is quickly gunned down by  the Gundam as it was trying to use the heat rod   shortly after another Gouf is destroyed by the  combined efforts of the Gundam and the Guncannon   and its backup comrades two others Goufs meet a  similar fate the first one is brutally slashed by   the beam saber and the other unit is mauled by  an enraged Amuro next the episode reveals four   other Goufs which all survive as they force  the White Base mobile suit team to retreat   in the following episode three other Goufs mounted  on Dodais are sent by M'Quve to ambush Matilda   transport the first is destroyed by the Gundam  Core Fighter while the second fall of its Dodai   and has it leg slashed which trigger an  explosion destroying it the last one gets   a longer fight mid-air against the G-fighter  and the Gundam but is also destroyed as well   the last appearance of the Gouf B-type in the  franchise is in episode 29 during the battle   of Jaburo three Goufs are first seen drop from a  Gaw and another unit is later seen landing in the   jungle so we saw a total of 17 Gouf B-type in the  franchise with 9 of them being destroyed on screen   the casualty rate is thus of 53 percent which is  more than decent for an antagonist mobile suit   now let's compare with the Dom the first  Doms ever seen in the franchise are the   three units of the Black Tri-stars Mash unit  is destroyed in episode 24 of Mobile Suit   Gundam by being slashed in half by the Gundam  beam saber and Ortega unit is bysected in the   following episode Gaia unit survive until the end  of episode 25 but is also destroyed by the Gundam   like the Goufs more Doms appeared during  the assault against Jaburo two Doms are   seen dropped from a Gaw and a third dropped unit  is seen being shot down by Jaburo air defenses   two additional Doms then make an appearance  and safely land later beyond Jaburo river   in Mobile Suit Igloo two Doms appears as well  during the battle of Odessa but the first one   is pathetically put to the ground by Arleen's  Guntank and the second one soon fall after by   being straffed into oblivion the last appearance  of a regular Dom in the whole UC saga is in the   8th Mobile Suit Team this unit is the only Dom  of the base and is quickly destroyed after a   failed attempt against the Guntank mass-production  type of the 11 units seen in the whole franchise   seven of them are destroyed on screen which  make a 63 percent casualty rate which is   decent again for mass production antagonists but  nonetheless higher than the Gouf own casualty rate   according to this the Gouf at least based on its  on-screen performance would be more survivable   than the Dom this on-screen performance criteria  is relative of course but since the first Gouf   survived a couple of encounters against the  Gundam and that a group of four Goufs made the   Gundam and Guncannon retreat something that  no Dom ever achieved we can still consider   this fifth evaluation to be relevant now let's  move to our conclusion as we have seen earlier   the Dom has superior on paper performance  and has a more versatile frame than the Gouf   so two criteria in its favor the Gouf on the  other hand has proved to have better in-built   weapons a better tactical usability and of course  a better on screen performance which mean it has   three of the five criteria in its favor so we  can conclude that the Gouf is a better mass   production mobile suit than the Dom now i won't  lie that i am slightly disappointed by this result   as much as i love the Gouf i fonder of the chunky  Dom but as i said at the beginning of the video   this analysis was not meant to be personal however  i think it's still important to remind everyone   in the Dom favor that while it was not as cheap  as the Zaku II it wasn't as overpriced as the Gouf   was and this is something which explained very  well while the Dom did so well against the Gouf   and we have now completed our Dom versus Gouf  analysis this will be all for today's video but   stay tuned for future lore content delivered  on the same channel hit the like button and   most importantly comment and subscribe as  it will really help the channel to flourish   so long fellow Newtypes under the  time of our next special edition

2021-07-16 03:13

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