CBC News: The National | Russian arms maker targets Canadian tech
(♪♪) >> Adrienne: TONIGHT, HOW A RUSSIAN DRONE MAKER IS TARGETING TECH FROM CANADIAN COMPANIES. LEAKED DOCUMENTS SHOW HOW RUSSIA IS SKIRTING SANCTIONS IN ITS WAR AGAINST UKRAINE. THE CANADIAN CONNECTION IN THE CBC NEWS EXCLUSIVE. >>> PUBLIC COLLEGES IN ONTARIO ARE DRIVING A SPIKE IN INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS. >> THEY TRIED TO GET AS MANY AS THEY COULD THROUGH THE DOOR BEFORE THE DOOR GOT SLAMMED. >> Adrienne: THE POLITICIANS ARE STILL BLAMING PRIVATE SCHOOLS.
>>> THE ROAD TO PREGNANCY FOR SOME CANADIANS IS EMOTIONAL, LONG AND INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE. >> WE TRIED VERY HARD. >> Adrienne: WE BREAK DOWN THE FIGHT WITH THE FERTILITY COMPANIES.
>> THEY MIGHT NEVER BECOME PARENTS AND THAT'S NOT FAIR. >> Adrienne: AND WHY ACCESS TO TREATMENT DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU LIVE. (♪♪) >> Announcer: FROM CBC NEWS THIS IS "THE NATIONAL" WITH CHIEF CORRESPONDENT ADRIENNE ARSENAULT.
(♪♪) >> Adrienne: THANKS FOR JOINING US. >> TONIGHT IN AN EXCLUSIVE WE SHOW YOU DOCUMENTS VIEWED BY CBC NEWS SUGGESTING THAT RUSSIA IS SEEKING CANADIAN TECHNOLOGY TO FUEL ITS WAR MACHINE. FOR TWO YEARS NOW, OTTAWA HAS TRIED TO WALL RUSSIA IN WITH SANCTIONS, BUT A LEAKED SUPPLIER LOS ANGELES SHOWS THAT WALL HAS CRACKS, AND THAT A MANUFACTURER OF RUSSIAN MILITARY DRONES MAY BE TURNING TO TWO CANADIAN COMPANIES TO GET CRITICAL ELECTRONICS. BEN MAKUCH HAS THE DOCUMENTS, WHAT THEY MEAN, AND WHY DESPITE SANCTIONS, UKRAINE FACES AN ENEMY AIDED BY THE TECHNOLOGY OF ITS ALLIES. >> Reporter: SOME CALL THE WAR IN UKRAINE THE WAR OF THE DRONE. AND THIS FOR RUSSIA A CRITICAL WEAPON.
GATHERING INTELLIGENCE FOR STRIKES. AND THE ST. PETERSBURG-BASED COMPANY THAT MAKES IT LOOKS TO THE WEST FOR TECHNOLOGY -- INCLUDING CANADA.
THE CANADIAN HACKERS SHARED DOCUMENTS WITH CBC NEWS, THE LIST OF WESTERN ELECTRONICS THAT THE COMPANY, SPECIAL TECHNOLOGY COMPANY USES TO MAKE ITS PRODUCTS. ON IT TWO QUÉBEC TECH FIRMS. EXFO AND AIMTEC.
>> [INDISCERNIBLE] >> Reporter: THIS UKRAINIAN MILITARY OFFICER GOES BY SERPA. CBC NEWS IS KEEPING HIS IDENTITY CONFIDENTIAL. HE SAYS THAT IT IS REVEALING.
>> [INDISCERNIBLE] >> Reporter: CANADA AND ITS ALLIES HAD IMPOSED CRIPPLING SANCTIONS AGAINST RUSSIA. SINGLING OUT COMPANIES LIKE STC AND BANNING THE USE OF DUAL-USE TECHNOLOGIES THAT COULD BE RETROFITTED FOR MAKING CAN WEAPONS. EVERYTHING FROM SEMICONDUCTORS TO MICROCHIPS.
>> THIS IS WE AS A GOVERNMENT CAN HAVE A STRONG IMPACT. >> Reporter: BUT EXPERTS SAY THAT THOSE SANCTIONS ARE COMING UP SHORT. >> WE STILL A LOT OF THIS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES. AND THE WHOLE SANCTION SYSTEM WAS NOT PREPARED TO HANDLE THIS. >> Reporter: SHE SAYS THAT RUSSIA ARE USING MIDDLE MEN TO PURCHASE ELECTRONICS FROM PRODUCERS IN ITS PATH. THEY DID NOT RESPOND TO A COMMENT FROM CBC NEWS.
BOTH QUÉBEC COMPANIES SAY THEY COMPLY WITH THE SANCTIONS. EXFO SAYS THAT IT DOES NOT SELL ITS SOLUTIONS INTO RUSSIA BUT HAS NO VISIBILITY TO ANY POTENTIAL ULTIMATE MEANS OF SUPPLY TO OTHER ENTITIES OR COUNTRY. AIMTEC SAYS THAT ITS PRODUCTS ARE NEITHER DESIGNED OR MADE FOR AEROSPACE APPLICATIONS. BUT THE LEAKED LIST SUGGESTS INTENTION OR NOT THAT THOSE CANADIAN COMPONENTS ARE USEFUL AND THEY MAY END UP AIDING THE RUSSIAN MILITARY FROM THE BATTLEFIELD. >> Adrienne:SO, BEN, TO BE CLEAR, WE DON'T KNOW IF RUSSIA IS ACTUALLY USING THESE CANADIAN COMPONENT? >> Reporter: THAT'S RIGHT.
WE KNOW THAT STC SUPPLIERS WILL SHOW THAT CANADIAN COMPONENTS ARE ON THEM AND THEY'RE AFTER THEM. NOW TO KNOW IF SURE IF THEY'RE INSIDE OF THE RUSSIAN WEAPONS WE HAVE TO RETRIEVE THEM FROM THE BATTLE FIELD AND THAT'S AN GONKING PLAN IN UKRAINE. >> Adrienne: YOU MENTIONED THE HACKED DOCUMENTS. HOW DID YOU GET ACCESS? >> Reporter: MY SOURCE IN UKRAINE SAID HE WANTED ME TO MEET SOME HACKERS AND EARLIER THIS MONTH I WENT TO UKRAINE AND MET THEM IN PERSON. >> Adrienne: YOU HAVE MORE NEXT WEEK ON "THE NATIONAL." >> I DO.
>> Adrienne:ALL RIGHT, BEN MAKUCH, THANK YOU. >>> THEY ARE NOW SHORT ON TROOPS. MARGARET EVANS IS IN UKRAINE AND SHOWS US THE MILITARY'S INCREASINGLY DESPERATE EFFORT TO FILL ITS RANKS >> Reporter: SOLDIERS ON THE STREETS OF UKRAINE ARE USUALLY MET WITH GRATITUDE AND RESPECT. BUT IF YOU'RE A DRAFT OFFICER, PEOPLE CROSS THE STREET TO AVOID YOU.
HERE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR MEN OF FIGHTING AGE AND THEN CHECKING TO SEE IF THEY'RE REGISTERED. RUSSIAN ADVANCES HAVE UKRAINE CONSIDERING AN EXPANSION OF THE DRAFT. THIS DRAFT OFFICER MAXIME LECHENKO SAYS THAT THE LINES OF PEOPLE VOLUNTEERING AT THE START OF THE WAR HAVE DISAPPEARED ALONG WITH THEIR MOTIVATION. LECHENKO IS HIMSELF ALREADY A VETERAN, SHOT AND INJURED WHILE TRYING TO DEFEND AVDIIVKA, THE CITY IN THE EAST RECENTLY LOST TO THE RUSSIANS AT GREAT COST.
>>(SPEAKING ALTERNATE LANGUAGE). >> Reporter: "HAVING GONE THROUGH THAT, I CAN UNDERSTAND PEOPLE WHO ARE AFRAID TO GO TO WAR," HE SAYS, "BUT IF NOT US, WHO WILL DEFEND OUR COUNTRY'S SOVEREIGNTY?" HIS COLLEAGUE OLEXANDRE, 53, SAYS THAT THE BATTLE NEEDS FIT YOUNG SOLDIERS. THE AVERAGE AGE NOW ESTIMATED TO BE MORE THAN 40 YEARS OLD. >> UKRAINIAN ARMY IS AN OLDER ARMY.
IT IS A PITY. >> Reporter: RECRUITMENT ADS PLAY TO THE NEAR UNIVERSAL HATRED OF RUSSIA'S INVADING ARMY BUT UKRAINE'S TROOPS REMAIN EXHAUSTED WITH NO FIXED ROTATION. THE HEAD OF UKRAINE'S MILITARY INTELLIGENCE, CORILLO DUDONAS IS KNOWN FOR HIS CREATIVE USE OF DRONES IN RATTLING RUSSIA, BUT HE KNOWS THAT THEY'RE NO SUBSTITUTE FOR THE GROUND TROOPS. >>(SPEAKING ALTERNATE LANGUAGE). >> Reporter:"NULL A SOLDIER COMES AND PLANTS A GROUND IN THE FLAG," HE SAYS, "NOTHING WILL CHANGE." STUDENTS FROM THE STEPS OF THE UNIVERSITY IN KYIV LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE THE WORLD AT THEIR FEET.
BUT THEY LIVE IN A COUNTRY AT WAR. >> I THINK THAT EVERYONE IS SCARED NOW, AND I AM ONE OF THEM. >> Reporter: HE IS 17, A DECADE AWAY FROM THE CURRENT CONSCRIPTION AGE, BUT THE GOVERNMENT IS CONSIDERING LOWERING IT TO 25. >> YES, I'M SCARED, BUT IF I HAVE TO, I WILL DEFEND MY COUNTRY. >> Reporter: OTHERS BELIEVE THAT THE WAR MIGHT STILL BE BEING FOUGHT A DECADE FROM NOW.
>> I'M VERY WORRIED FOR MY COUNTRY. >> Reporter:THEY ALSO SAY THAT THEY'RE HOPING THAT UKRAINE'S ALLIES IN THE WEST WON'T LET THEM LOSE. MARGARET EVANS, CBC NEWS, KYIV.
>> Adrienne:QATARI NEGOTIATORS SAY THAT THEY'RE STILL HARD AT WORK AFTER THE U.S. PRESIDENT SIGNALED A CEASEFIRE DEAL BETWEEN HAMAS AND ISRAEL COULD BE COMING SOON. >> THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN ADVOCATES. BUT UNTIL NOW WE DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT AND WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE NEGOTIATIONS. >> Adrienne: TALKS TO PAUSE FIGHTING HAVE BEEN HAPPENING IN PARIS AND QATAR AND NEGOTIATORS CAUTION A LOT OF DETAILS HAVE YET TO BE WORKED OUT. BIDEN SAID YESTERDAY THAT HE HOPES THAT THE DEAL IS IN PLACE BY MONDAY AND THAT ISRAEL WOULD BE WILLING TO HALT FIGHTING IN GAZA DURING RAMADAN.
NOW BIDEN'S RELATIONSHIP WITH ISRAEL IS PLAYING A BIG ROLE IN MICHIGAN TODAY. THE STATE HELD ITS DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES. BOTH BIDEN AND DONALD TRUMP WON HANDILY, BUT AS KRIS REYES EXPLAINS, MANY DEMOCRATS USE THEIR VOTES TO PROTEST BIDEN'S HANDLING OF THE ISRAEL-HAMAS WAR. >> [CHANTING] >> Reporter: THESE MICHIGAN DEMOCRATS ARE DECLARING THEIR PROTEST VOTE AGAINST JOE BIDEN. THE PRESIDENT THEY HELPED ELECT IN 2020. TURNING THE TIDE IS HIS ADMINISTRATION'S RELUCTANCE TO CALL FOR A CEASEFIRE IN GAZA AS THE HUMANITARIAN SITUATION WORSENS, WHILE SUPPORTING ISRAEL'S OFFENSIVE.
>> RIGHT NOW AS OUR FAMILY IS BEING BOMBED WE CAN'T SAY DESERVE TO LIVE IN PEACE AND DIGNITY. >> Reporter: THE MOVEMENT WAS LAUNCHED A FEW WEEKS AGO, ORGANIZED LARGELY BY THE STATE'S ARAB-AMERICAN COMMUNITY, THE BIGGEST IN THE COUNTRY. >> WE'RE HOPING TO PUSH THE BUTTON ON THE SECURE CEASEFIRE NOW, AND LET'S END THE KILLING OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS OVERSEAS.
>> Reporter: MICHIGAN IS ONE OF THE FIVE KEY SWING STATES THAT COULD DETERMINE THE WINNER OF THIS YEAR'S PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. DEMOCRATS WORRY BIDEN'S STANCE ON THE MIDDLE EAST COULD COST HIM. >> IF HE DOES NOT TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH, HE WILL LOSE KEY VOTERS HERE IN MICHIGAN THAT WILL HAND TRUMP THE PRESIDENCY. >> FREE -- FREE PALESTINE! >> Reporter: SOME OF THE LOUDEST CALLS FOR A CEASEFIRE HAVE COME FROM THIS STATE, DRIVEN BY ONE OF ITS REPRESENTATIVES, RASHIDA TLAIB, WHO IN 2020 WAS THE FIRST PALESTINIAN-AMERICAN ELECTED TO CONGRESS.
>> IF YOU WANT US TO BE LOUDER, THEN COME HERE AND VOTE UNCOMMITTED. >> Reporter: THE UNCOMMITTED OPTION COULD PROVE TO BE BIDEN'S BIGGEST CHALLENGER ON THE MICHIGAN BALLOT, WHERE THE TWO OTHER CANDIDATES ARE LONG SHOTS. THE ORGANIZERS' GOAL, AT LEAST 10,000 PROTEST VOTES, A FRACTION OF THE 1.6 MILLION DEMOCRATS IN THE STATE WHO VOTED IN THE 2020 PRIMARY. STILL -- >> THAT WOULD BE A FIVE-ALARM FIRE FOR THE WHITE HOUSE AND FOR THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN.
THAT WILL TELL THEM THAT THEY HAVE A STRONG AND ENDURING PROBLEM WITH THIS IMPORTANT CONSTITUENCY. >> Reporter: SO IMPORTANT THAT BIDEN'S OWN PARTY IS ISSUING THIS REMINDER. >> THE ROAD TO THE WHITE HOUSE RUNS THROUGH MICHIGAN. YOU DON'T WIN WITHOUT MICHIGAN.
>> Adrienne: AND, KRIS, THE POLLS ARE NOW CLOSED THERE AND THE RESULTS ARE COMING IN. WHAT ARE THEY SHOWING? >> Reporter: SO VICTORY FOR BIDEN AND TRUMP AS YOU ALREADY MENTIONED, ADRIENNE. BUT THAT WAS TO BE EXPECTED. THE REAL NOTABLE NUMBER HERE IS THE UNCOMMITTED VOTES FROM THE DEMOCRATS.
ALREADY WE'VE SEEN A SIZEABLE NUMBER. MORE THAN ORGANIZERS WERE HOPING FOR. BUT, OF COURSE, WE DON'T KNOW IF ALL OF THOSE VOTES ARE PROTEST VOTES.
BUT AS THESE NUMBERS ARE FINALIZED IT WILL BE EXAMINED CLOSELY BY THE DEMOCRATS FOR CLUES ON HOW TO KEEP MICHIGAN IN NOVEMBER, A STATE THAT BIDEN WON BY A SLIM MARGIN IN 2020. WITH THE SUPPORT OF ARAB-AMERICANS. THE BIG QUESTION NOW -- DOES THIS PROTEST VOTE EXTEND BEYOND MICHIGAN AND INTO SUPER TUESDAY NEXT WEEK? >> Adrienne: ALL RIGHT, KRIS REYES IN NEW YORK. THANK YOU. >> Reporter: THANK YOU. >> Adrienne: WE LEARNED TODAY THAT MYLES SANDERSON DIED OF A COCAINE OVERDOSE.
THE TOP PATHOLOGIST SHARED HIS FINDINGS AT AN INQUEST. SANDERSON DIED AFTER HE FATALLY STABBED 11 PEOPLE IN AND AROUND JAMES SMITH CREE NATION. AN INVESTIGATION FOUND THAT OFFICERS WERE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS DEATH. >>> TODAY IN OTTAWA, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REACTED TO A NEW CBC INVESTIGATION SAYING THAT PROVINCES NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE NATIONWIDE SPIKE IN INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS. POLITICIANS SAY THAT IT IS A HANDFUL OF PRIVATE SCHOOLS FUELING THE INFLUX. BUT AS VALÉRIE OUELLET SHOWS US, IT'S ACTUALLY PUBLIC COLLEGES, MOSTLY IN ONTARIO, THAT ARE GETTING THE MOST STEADY INPUT.
>> Reporter: IT'S MORE THAN TRIPLED IN THIS PUBLIC COLLEGE IN SOUTHWESTERN ONTARIO. ONE OF THEM IS JUST TWO MONTHS AWAY FROM COMPLETING HER POST-GRADUATE CERTIFICATE IN HEALTHCARE ADMINISTRATION MANAGEMENT. AT 34, SHE CAME TO CANADA TO START A NEW LIFE, GIVING UP HER CAREER AS A CERTIFIED PHYSICIAN IN IRAN. >> I'M A VOCAL PERSON AND IT WAS NOT A SAFE PLACE FOR ME. >> Reporter: SHE IS AWARE OF THE SCRUTINY PLACED ON HER AND HER FELLOW INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS.
>> I ALSO FEEL THAT THERE'S A LOT OF US HERE, YOU KNOW, AND WITHOUT HOUSING, WITHOUT HEALTHCARE, I CAN TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IS IT ACTUALLY -- IS IT ALL ON US? >> IT'S WITH THE DATA THAT THE ISSUE IS THE SCHOOLS THEMSELVES THAT ARE BRINGING THEM IN. >> Reporter: THAT DATA OBTAINED AND ANALYSED BY CBC NEWS SHOWS THAT WHAT HAS BEEN FRAMED AS A NATIONAL CRISIS IS, IN FACT, DRIVEN BY A HANDFUL OF COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES. OUT OF THE 10 WITH THE GREATEST INCREASES IN STEADY PERMITS, NINE OF THEM ARE PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN ONTARIO. >> IT'S NOT DOUBLE OR TRIPLE. WE ARE TALKING 30 TIMES MORE STUDENTS. >> Reporter: THIS STUDENT ADVOCATE CALLS IT RECKLESS.
>> THEY KNEW THAT THERE WAS ALREADY A HOUSING SHORTAGE PROBLEM AND THAT'S HOW PUBLIC COLLEGES IN ONTARIO RESPONDED? BY TRYING TO GET AS MANY AS THEY COULD THROUGH THE DOOR BEFORE THE DOOR GOT SLAMMED. >> Reporter: WE SHOW HER HOW MUCH PERMITS HAVE INCREASED IN THOSE HANDFUL OF ONTARIO SCHOOLS. >> NOW IT'S 40 TIMES MORE. >> WOW. ARE THEY EVEN PREPARED FOR THIS MUCH STUDENT? IT FEELS LIKE SCHOOLS ARE NOT THERE TO HELP US, BUT TO GET OUR MONEY. >> Reporter: WE REACHED OUT TO THE TOP 10 SCHOOLS WITH THE HIGHEST INCREASES.
SEVEN REPLIED. ONE SCHOOL EXPLAINED THAT IT DOESN'T CONTROL THE NUMBER OF STUDY PERMITS APPROVED. THAT'S ON OTTAWA.
ALMOST ALL MENTIONED DECREASES IN PROVINCIAL FUNDING AND DOMESTIC ENROLLMENT. >> Adrienne: SO, VALERIE, HOW DID THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REACT TO YOUR ANALYSIS OF THE DATA? >> Reporter: WELL, THE IMMIGRATION MINISTER MARC MILLER SAYS THAT HE DIDN'T FEEL THAT HE MISREPRESENTED THE SITUATION BY FOCUSING ON PRIVATE SCHOOLS BUT THAT THERE IS RESPONSIBILITY SHARED ACROSS THE BOARD, SPECIFICALLY FOR PUBLIC SCHOOL, PRIVATE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE THESE ALARMING INCREASES. HE SAYS THAT MOVING ON THAT WHAT IS NEEDED IS FOR PROVINCES AND SPECIFICALLY FOR ONTARIO TO ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY AND HE SAYS THAT REGARDING THESE BAD ACTORS IF THE PROVINCES DON'T MOVE TO SHUT THEM DOWN, OTTAWA WILL. WE REACHED OUT TO THE FORD GOVERNMENT FOR A COMMENT ON THIS. THEY DID NOT REPLY. >> Adrienne: THEY DID NOT? ALL RIGHT, VALÉRIE OUELLET, THANK YOU.
>> Reporter: THANK YOU. >> Adrienne: IN BRITISH COLUMBIA AN APOLOGY DECADES IN THE MAKING. THE PROVINCE TODAY ACKNOWLEDGING HISTORICAL WRONGS ON A GROUP OF EXILED RUSSIANS.
70 YEARS AGO SOME 200 DOUKHOBOR CHILDREN WERE FORCE ARE FORCIBLY REMOVED FROM THEIR HOMES. LYNDSAY DUNCOMBE ON WHY THE COMPENSATION THAT WAS OFFERED DOESN'T GO FAR ENOUGH [♪ SINGING ♪] >> Reporter: THERE IS HEALING IN THESE RUSSIAN SONGS, A WAY FOR BETTY TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT WAS TAKEN FROM HER. >> THEY WOULDN'T LET US SPEAK RUSSIAN. I GOT STRAPPED EVERY TIME THAT I DID.
>> Reporter: SHE WAS JUST 8 YEARS OLD WHEN A POLICE OFFICER TOOK HER FROM HER BED, AND FORCED TO SPEND 4 1/2 YEARS HERE AT A FORMER TUBERCULOSIS SANATORIUM WITH 200 DOUKHOBOR CHILDREN, MEMBERS OF A GROUP KNOWN AS THE SONS OF FREEDOM, RUSSIAN PACIFISTS WHO LIVED COMMUNALLY AND CLASHED WITH THE GOVERNMENT. >> AND THEY TRIED TO KNOCK THE DOUKHOBORS OUT OF ME. >> Reporter:THEIR PARENTS VISITED TWICE A MONTH -- FAMILIES SEPARATED BY A CHAIN LINK FENCE. >> TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE PROVINCE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA WE ACKNOWLEDGE AND APOLOGISE FOR THESE PAST INJUSTICES. >> Reporter:THIS APOLOGY COMES AFTER DECADES OF LOBBYING BY SURVIVORS.
>> THE CHILDREN PAID THE PRICE OF THE CONFLICT OF ADULTS. >> Reporter: THE SONS OF FREEDOM WERE KNOWN FOR NUDE PROTESTS AND SETTING THEIR HOMES ON FIRE IN A REJECTION OF MATERIALISM. THIS RETIRED LAW PROFESSOR SAYS THAT LINGERING DISTRUST OF DOUKHOBORS LIKELY DELAYED RECONCILIATION. >> I SUSPECT IF YOU TRIED TO LOOK AT THE 1980s OR 1990S THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN OPPOSITION IN THE KOOTENAYS AND THAT PART OF BRITISH COLUMBIA. >> Reporter: THE APOLOGY COMES WITH $10 MILLION IN COMPENSATION, MUCH FOR EDUCATION. $3.75 MILLION WILL GO TO A FUND
FOR SURVIVORS, NOT GOOD ENOUGH, SHE SAYS. >> WE ALL DESERVE PERSONAL COMPENSATION. >> Reporter:HER NIECE CONFRONTED THE PREMIER ABOUT HOW THE MONEY WILL BE SPENT. >> MAYBE THE VOICE THAT WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM 71 YEARS AGO CAN ACTUALLY NOW BE HEARD BY YOU.
WOULD YOU COMMIT THAT TO US, MR? >> ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL WORK WITH YOU. >> Reporter: WORK THAT SURVIVORS HOPE THAT WILL HAPPEN SOON, GIVEN HOW LONG THEY HAVE SUFFERED. LYNDSAY DUNCOMBE, CBC NEWS, VICTORIA. >> Adrienne: SOME RETIREMENT HOME RESIDENTS IN OTTAWA SAY THEY HAVE BEEN LEFT WITH NO CHOICE BUT TO MOVE AFTER FACING A BIG HIKE IN THEIR MONTHLY FEES.
>> I COULD NOT POSSIBLY STAY HERE WITH THAT KIND OF A PRICE. >> Adrienne: WHY THEY FEEL THEY WERE MISLED BY THE HOME NEXT. (♪♪) >>> PLUS, IT'S A HEARTBREAKING STRUGGLE FOR MANY CANADIANS. >> I LOOK INTO THE ICE OF SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO BE A PARENT, AND THEY CANNOT.
>> Adrienne: ELLEN MAURO ON THE LIMITED OPTIONS FOR FERTILITY CARE AND THE FIGHT TO CHANGE THAT. >>> AND LATER, HOLDING THEIR BREATH UNDER THE ICE. >> YOU CANNOT GET OUT WHENEVER YOU WANT.
YOU HAVE TO REACH THE NEXT HOLE THAT IS OPEN. >> Adrienne: A CROATIAN DIVER SETS A CHILLY NEW RECORD. WE ARE BACK IN TWO. (♪♪) (♪♪) >> Adrienne: WELL, THE PRICE OF A WENDY'S JUNIOR BACON CHEESEBURGER OR A FROSTY COULD CHANGE -- APPARENTLY DEPENDING ON WHEN YOU ORDER IT.
THE FAST-FOOD CHAIN SAID THAT IT WILL TEST SURGE PRICING NEXT YEAR IN THE U.S. AS PART OF A NEW DIGITAL MENU. SURGE PRICING IS COMMON WITH SERVICES LIKE UBER, THE MORE DEMAND, THE HIGHER THE COST. >>> SEVERAL SENIORS LIVING IN OTTAWA RETIREMENT HOMES SAY THEY HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO MOVE AFTER DRASTIC INCREASES TO THEIR MONTHLY FEES. NICOLE WILLIAMS NOW ON THE REASON FOR THE SUDDEN SPIKE AND WHY RENT CONTROL DOESN'T APPLY.
>> Reporter:ELAINE BOUCHARD NEVER THOUGHT THAT SHE'D HAVE TO MOVE AGAIN, BUT IN JUST OVER A MONTH, THE 91-YEAR-OLD WILL PACK UP HER STUDIO APARTMENT FOR ANOTHER SENIORS HOME. >> I'M BROKEN. I AM REALLY BROKEN AND I NEED HELP. >> Reporter: THE COST OF HER CURRENT PLACE IS GOING UP BY ALMOST A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER MONTH.
BOUCHARD IS ONE OF THREE TENANTS OF A RETIREMENT RESIDENCE IN OTTAWA WHO SAY THAT THEIR MONTHLY FEES ARE SKYROCKETING. >> MY PENSION IS $2,900, AND I KNEW THAT THREE, FOUR YEARS, FOUR YEARS TO STAY HERE AND I WON'T HAVE ANY MORE. >> Reporter:THEIR LANDLORD ALAVEDO LIFESTYLES IS REMOVING WHAT IT CALLS A MARKETING DISCOUNTS PROMISED TO SOME TENANTS WHEN THEY FIRST MOVED IN. BUT NOT INCLUDED ON THE LEASE -- A TIMELINE FOR HOW LONG IT WOULD LAST OR WHAT THE DISCOUNT COVERS. WHILE MOST RENT INCREASES IN ONTARIO ARE REGULATED, THAT RULE DOESN'T APPLY TO FEES LIKE THOSE FOR MEALS AND OTHER SERVICES AT SENIORS RESIDENCES. >> I JUST FELT THAT MY WORLD HAD DROPPED OUT -- >> Reporter: 80-YEAR-OLD KATHERANE ELLIOT SAID THAT SHE ALSO HAD NO CHOICE TO MOVE.
HER RENT AND SERVICE PACKAGE INCREASING BY OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER MONTH. >> I COULD NOT POSSIBLY STAY HERE WITH THAT KIND OF A PRICE. I LIVE ON A PENSION, RIGHT, I DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY TO THROW AROUND.
>> Reporter: 82-YEAR-OLD PENNY ECCELL SAYS THAT SHE HAS NO PLANS TO PAY THE EXTRA COST AND IS SEEKING LEGAL ADVICE. EXPERTS SAY THAT FIGHT MIGHT BE A TOUGH ONE. >> IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE TENANT READ ANY AGREEMENT PUT BEFORE THEM VERY CAREFULLY AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND, UM, THE RENT THAT IS BEING CHARGED AND WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THAT RENT.
>> Reporter: OFFICIALS CAN -- ALAV DENCHDO LIFESTYLE SAY THAT THOSE DISCOUNTS WERE NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE PERMANENT AND THEY NEED OTHER WAYS TO RAISE REVENUE TO KEEP UP WITH INFLATION. NICOLE WILLIAMS, CBC NEWS, OTTAWA. >> Adrienne: PRINCE WILLIAM UNEXPECTEDLY PULLED OUT OF A MEMORIAL SERVICE TODAY FOR HIS GODFATHER, THE LATE KING CONSTANTINE OF GREECE. IN AN UNUSUAL MOVE HE CANCELED JUST HOURS BEFORE HE WAS SCHEDULED TO ATTEND AND GIVE A READING. THE PALACE WOULDN'T SPECIFY WHY HE COULDN'T MAKE IT, ONLY SAYING THAT IT WAS A PERSONAL MATTER.
>>> ARTISTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE SOUNDING THE ALARM ABOUT FEDERAL FUNDING THAT IS SET TO EXPIRE VERY SOON. >> THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT COSTS THAT HAVE RISEN DRAMATICALLY. >> Adrienne: THE IMPACT IT COULD HAVE ON ARTISTS AND TICKET PRICES. >>> PLUS, CANADIANS TRYING TO START FAMILIES FACING LONG AND PAINFUL JOURNEYS. >> WE'RE OVER A HUNDRED GRAND OUT OF POCKET FOR TREATMENT.
WE REMORTGAGED OUR HOME TO DO IT. >> Adrienne: ELLEN MAURO LOOKS AT THE STAGGERING COST AND THE LACK OF ACCESS TO FERTILITY TREATMENT. >>> "THE NATIONAL" BREAKS DOWN THE STORIES SHAPING OUR WORLD NEXT. (♪♪) (♪♪) [♪ SINGING ♪] >> Adrienne: WELL, AFTER NEARLY 22 YEARS, TWO MEN HAVE BEEN CONVICTED IN THE MURDER OF JAM MASTER J.
THEIR NAMES ARE CARL JORDAN JR. AND RONALD WASHINGTON. THE RAP LEGEND'S GODSON AND A CHILDHOOD FRIEND. PROSECUTORS SAY THAT THE SHOOTING WAS A RESULT OF A DRUG DEAL.
JAM MASTER J WAS KILLED AT THE AGE OF 37. BEFORE THAT, HE HELPED TO MAKE HITS LIKE THE ONE THAT YOU JUST HEARD "IT'S TRICKY." >>> FEDERAL FUNDING HAS BEEN A LIFELINE FOR MANY PERFORMING ARTISTS, TRYING TO SHARE UNIQUE CANADIAN STORIES. BUT AS KAYLA HOUNSELL TELLS US, SOME OF THAT MONEY IS SET TO EXPIRE, LEAVING ART AND LIVELIHOODS ON THE LINE. >> Reporter: LYDIA ZIMMER LIVES TO DANCE, BUT AT THE MOMENT SHE HAS MORE THAN THE MUSIC ON HER MIND.
>> THE CONSEQUENCES OF NOT HAVING THE FUNDING WOULD BE THAT SOMEONE LOCAL LIKE MYSELF WHO DOESN'T HAVE THE BIGGEST RESUME IN THE WORLD, UM, WOULDN'T GET -- WOULDN'T GET PROGRAMMED. >> Reporter: THE CANADIAN ARTS PRESENTATION FUND PROVIDES FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO ORGINISATIONS THAT PRESENT AND SUPPORT ARTS PROGRAMMES. WITHOUT IT, ZIMMER SAYS THAT THIS SHOW WHICH SHE CHOREOGRAPHED AND PERFORMED IN WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED.
>> I HIRED DANCERS. I HIRED LIGHTING DESIGNERS, COSTUME DESIGNERS, COMMERCIAL DIRECTORS. THE WHOLE JUMBLE.
>> Reporter: THE FUND GOT AN $8 MILLION TOP-UP IN 2019. THAT EXTRA CASH WILL EXPIRE AT THE END OF MARCH. SOME SAY THAT IT COULD MEAN HIGHER TICKET PRICES AND LESS CANADIAN CONTENT. >> THOSE TRULY CANADIAN STORIES THAT GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN VARIOUS PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, IN VARIOUS CULTURES. >> Reporter: HE SAYS THAT 600 ORGINISATIONS STAND TO LOSE MONEY, PARTICULARLY IN RURAL CANADA. >> THE COSTS OF TOURING A SHOW ARE SIGNIFICANT, NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE LOCATED.
BUT, OF COURSE, THE LONGER THE TRIP, THE MORE EXPENSIVE IT IS. >> Reporter: THIS SUMMER CONCERT SERIES IN KENSINGTON, P.E.I., BENEFITS FROM THE FUND. THE DEPARTMENT OF HERITAGE SAYS THAT THE ADDITIONAL MONEY WAS ALWAYS MEANT TO BE LIMITED AND WAS EXTENDED THROUGH THE PANDEMIC. BUT UNDER THIS, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR SAYS THAT IT MAKES NO SENSE TO RETURN TO PRE-PANDEMIC FUNDING NOW.
>> IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT WORLD NOW. THERE ARE DIFFERENT CONCERNS. THERE'S DIFFERENT EXPENSES. THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT COSTS THAT HAVE RISEN DRAMATICALLY. >> Reporter: ZIMMER SAYS THAT IF THE FUNDING IS NOT RESTORED, ORGINISATIONS WILL BE MAKING SOME DIFFICULT DECISIONS ABOUT WHO GETS TO PERFORM.
KAYLA HOUNSELL, CBC NEWS, HALIFAX. >> Adrienne: NOW IT'S TIME TO DIG DEEPER INTO THE NEWS SHAPING OUR WORLD. (♪♪) THE LONG HARD ROAD TO FERTILITY CARE IN CANADA.
>> WE'RE OVER A HUNDRED GRAND OUT OF POCKET. >> Adrienne: AND WHY IT CAN FEEL SO UNFAIR. >> THEN ON TOP OF THAT THE TRAVEL COSTS.
>> Adrienne: THERE ARE HUGE DISCREPANCIES IN ACCESS TO CLINICS AND WHAT PROVINCES WILL PAY FOR. >> IT'S LOOKED AT AS, OH, YOU GUYS JUST DREW THE SHORT STRAW. >> Adrienne: THIS IS "THE BREAKDOWN."
ELLEN MAURO LOOKS AT HOW THE EASE OF GETTING FERTILITY TREATMENT DEPENDS SO MUCH ON WHERE YOU LIVE. HOW EVERY SETBACK, EVERY ROADBLOCK, TAKES AN EMOTIONAL TOLL. (♪♪) >> READY. >> Reporter: RENÉE HIGGINS IS DESPERATE TO HAVE A BABY. AND RIGHT NOW THAT DREAM HANGS ON THIS MOMENT. THE ONLY EMBRYO THAT RENÉE HAS LEFT FROM SIX ROUNDS OF I.V.F.
IS BEING TRANSFERRED TO HER BODY. RENÉE IS HOPEFUL THAT AFTER 10 -- TWO MISCARRIAGES FROM PREVIOUS TRANSFERS, SHE KNOWS THAT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE. NO MATTER HOW MUCH SHE'S GONE THROUGH TO GET HERE.
HI, RENÉE. >> HI. >> Reporter:HI, I'M ELLEN. WE FIRST MET RENÉE WEEKS BEFORE AT 3:30 IN THE MORNING. >> NAVIGATING TO MARKHAM FERTILITY CENTRE. >> FOUR HOURS AND 20 MINUTES.
YEAH. [LAUGHTER] >> Reporter: RENÉE LIVES IN SUDBURY, NORTHERN ONTARIO, THE CLOSEST FERTILITY TREATMENT FOR WHERE SHE CAN DO I.V.F. IS ALL THE WAY IN THE TORONTO AREA.
THIS IS THE REALITY FOR SO MANY CANADIANS -- GEOGRAPHY MAKING THE ALREADY COMPLICATED PROCESS OF I.V.F. EVEN MORE CHALLENGING. AND RENÉE HAS HAD ENOUGH. HOW MUCH HARDER DOES ALL OF THIS TRAVEL AND ALL OF THIS MAKE THE PROCESS? >> SIGNIFICANTLY HARDER. IT'S DRAINING -- MENTALLY, EMOTIONALLY, FINANCIALLY, I MEAN WE'RE OVER A HUNDRED GRAND OUT OF POCKET FOR TREATMENT AND MEDICATIONS. AND ON TOP OF THAT THE TRAVEL COSTS. SO, YEAH, WE REMORTGAGED OUR HOME TO TO IT.
>> Reporter: WOW, WOW, THAT MUST HAVE BEEN VERY HARD. >> AND HAVING THE DRIVE TO WORRY ON TOP OF THAT ARE JUST CRAZY. >> Reporter: RENÉE IS 35 AND HAS FEWER EGGS THAN MOST WOMEN HER AGE. >> I REALLY THOUGHT WE'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES, THE FIRST I.V.F.
CYCLE -- IT'S GOING TO WORK. IT'S HIGH-TECH STUFF. IT'S REALLY HARD TO ACCEPT.
>> BATTLING INFERTILITY IN 2023 WAS INTENSE, AND 3:00 A.M. DRIVES TO THE CLINIC. >> Reporter: FERTILITY TREATMENTS CAN BE HARROWING AND EVEN TRAUMATIC. COUNTLESS APPOINTMENTS. >> NEEDLES IN HOTELS, NEEDLES IN CARS.
NEEDLES EVERYWHERE. I HAD SUCH A GOOD FEELING THIS TIME, BUT IT DIDN'T WORK. >> Reporter:BUT NO MATTER HOW MUCH HEARTBREAK RENÉE AND HER PARTNER HAVE BEEN THROUGH IT WAS THE TRAVEL THAT MADE HER STOP. >> FINANCIALLY WE COULD HAVE DONE ANOTHER I.V.F. CYCLE BUT I COULDN'T DO THE DRIVE FOR THE SEVENTH ONE. >> Reporter: AND AS WE DRIVE WITH HER IT'S LITTLE WONDER WHY.
THESE ARE TOUGH CONDITIONS LIKE BLOWING SNOW. >> LIKE, THIS IS NOWHERE NEAR THE WORST OF IT. >> Reporter: WE'RE HEADING TO RENÉE'S CLINIC TO START THE PROCESS FOR HER EMBRYO TRANSFER, THE LAST STEP OF I.V.F.
SHE'LL HAVE TO DO THIS DRIVE SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE IT'S DONE. HOW DOES THAT FEEL WITH THE LOGISTICS AND THE SITUATION THAT HAVE PREVENTED YOU FROM TRYING AGAIN? >> I FEEL VERY FRUSTRATED. I FEEL LIKE WE CAN DO BETTER. >> Reporter: I.V.F. OR IN VITRO FERTILIZATION IS THE PROCESS OF TAKING A WOMAN'S EGGS AND FERTILIZING THEM OUTSIDE OF HER BODY. THE AVERAGE COST FOR ONE CYCLE IN CANADA IS $20,000.
MOST WILL NEED MULTIPLE ROUNDS TO GET PREGNANT. FERTILITY CLINICS OFFERING I.V.F. ARE CONCENTRATED IN URBAN CENTRES AND ACCESS VARIES WIDELY ACROSS THE COUNTRY. SOME PROVINCES ONLY HAVE ONE CLINIC, WHILE SEVERAL OTHERS AND THE TERRITORIES HAVE NONE. AND WHEN IT COMES TO FINANCIAL SUPPORT, SEVEN PROVINCES HAVE A TAX CREDIT OR FUNDING PROGRAMME. B.C. WILL JOIN THAT LIST NEXT
YEAR. QUÉBEC OFFERS THE MOST COVERAGE, FUNDING ONE FULL I.V.F. CYCLE, INCLUDING THE DRUGS REQUIRED. ALBERTA IS ONE OF THE PROVINCES WHERE THERE'S NO PUBLIC FUNDING FOR I.V.F. TREATMENT. >> BASED ON HOW -- >> Reporter: IN CALGARY WE MEET THIS GROUP OF WOMEN TRYING TO CHANGE THAT. >> INFERTILITY IS NOT NECESSARILY LOOKED AS A MEDICAL DIAGNOSIS.
IT'S LOOKED AT, OH, YOU GUYS JUST DREW A SHORT STRAW. >> IT'S INCREDIBLE HOW MANY OF MY FRIENDS AND HOW MANY OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS GO THROUGH THE SAME THING AND NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT IT. >> Reporter: FERTILITY ALBERTA IS ONE OF SEVERAL GRASSROOTS ADVOCACY GROUPS PUSHING FOR MORE SUPPORT ACROSS THE COUNTRY. >> I STARTED ASKING A MILLION QUESTIONS, LIKE, WHY CAN'T WE DO THIS -- >> Reporter: LIKE RENÉE, ASHLEY EVERLEY AND HER HUSBAND ARE OUT MORE THAN $100,000, STILL TRYING TO ACHIEVE THEIR DREAMS OF PARENTHOOD. >> OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN SEE THE EMOTIONAL TOLL THAT IT TAKES. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN TOUGH.
I THOUGHT THAT I HAD A LOT OF TIME. >> Reporter:MICHELLE CHIDLEY CO-FOUNDED THE ORGINISATION. SHE NEEDED I.V.F. TO CONCEIVE
HER SONS. >> WHEN WE GO INTO MEETINGS WITH GOVERNMENT WE PRESENT WHAT THE OTHER PROVINCES HAVE DONE. THERE'S NO PERFECT SOLUTION. BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM TO TRY TO FIND WHAT IS IN THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY IN THIS PROVINCE.
>> Reporter: WHY DO YOU DO THIS WORK? >> WHEN I WENT THROUGH MY OWN FERTILITY JOURNEY, I FELT INCREDIBLY ALONE. AND ISOLATED. WE LIVE IN A COUNTRY WITH UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE. ONE IN SIX CANADIANS HAVE MEDICALLY DIAGNOSED CONDITIONS THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO HAVE A FAMILY ON THEIR OWN.
IT DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT THAT PEOPLE NEED TO PAY OUT OF POCKET TO OVERCOME THEIR MEDICAL CHALLENGES. ESPECIALLY IN A COUNTRY LIKE CANADA. >> I TRIED MY HARDEST WITH EVERYTHING THAT I COULD, BUT THE CYCLE WAS CANCELED. >> Reporter: AS TOUGH AS RENÉE'S JOURNEY HAS BEEN, SHE HAD SOME HELP.
ONTARIO OFFERS RESIDENTS ONE FUNDED CYCLE OF I.V.F., BUT THAT DOESN'T COVER THE DRUGS NEEDED. THE WAIT LIST CAN BE LONG, WHICH DOCTORS SAY THAT JEOPARDIZES TREATMENT OPTIONS AND THE PROVINCE'S MEDICAL TRAVEL GRANT DOESN'T INCLUDE I.V.F. >> THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT I HAVE TALKED TO WHO HAVE 15-HOUR DRIVES TO THE NEAREST PLACE TO GET AN I.V.F. TREATMENT.
IT'S CRAZY. >> Reporter:WHERE DO YOU GET THE STRENGTH TO KEEP GOING? >> IN THE BEGINNING IT WAS HOPE. BUT WHEN I LOST THAT I FOUND THE PASSION FOR ADVOCACY, AND I STARTED SHARING MY STORY MORE AND TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE ONLINE.
>> I'M ON INTRAMUSCULAR INJECTIONS -- >> Reporter: RENÉE WORKS WITH NON-PROFIT CONCEIVABLE DREAMS, PUSHING ONTARIO TO DO MORE. LIKE MAKING IT EASIER TO DO SOME OF THE REQUIRED APPOINTMENTS IN LOCAL COMMUNITIES. AND CREATING A TAX CREDIT TO HELP TO COVER ALL OF THE ADDITIONAL COSTS. >> NOT ONLY WOULD IT PROVIDE THE BENEFIT OF ASSISTING WITH THE MEDICATION, TESTING AND TRAVEL COSTS, BUT IT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE AN INCLUSIVE SOLUTION THAT COVERS ALL OF THE REASONS THAT SOMEONE MAY REQUIRE FERTILITY TREATMENT.
(♪♪) >> Reporter: NOVA SCOTIA RECENTLY LAUNCHED A TAX CREDIT, OFFERING UP TO $8,000 A YEAR. CAROLYN DUBÉ LEADS ADVOCACY GROUP FERTILITY MATTERS CANADA. IN HALIFAX, MEETING WITH THE MINISTER MICHELLE THOMPSON -- >> SO I THINK WE HAD ABOUT 200 APPLICANTS TO THE TAX CREDIT PROGRAMME. YEP.
SO WE'RE ENCOURAGED BY THAT. >> Reporter: WITH THE PATCHWORK OF PROVINCIAL MEASURES, CAROLYN'S ORGINISATION IS PUSHING FOR A FEDERAL STRATEGY TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR MORE CANADIANS TO GROW THEIR FAMILIES LIKE SHE DID. >> YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT AN INCREDIBLY LOW FERTILITY RATE AND RESEARCH SHOWS THAT A LOW FERTILITY RATE IMPACTS THE ECONOMIC HEALTH OF A JURISDICTION.
SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN 30 YEARS? WHO IS PAYING INTO PENSIONS IN 30 YEARS IF WE'RE NOT HELPING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE NOW? >> Reporter: COMING UP, THE RESULTS OF RENÉE'S EMBRYO TRANSFER. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> Reporter: AND WHY RENÉE'S DOCTOR SAYS THAT ACCESS TO I.V.F. SHOULD BE A HEALTHCARE PRIORITY.
>> I WOULD SAY COME TO MY OFFICE. AND LOOK INTEREST THE EYES OF SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO BE A PARENT AND THEY CAN'T. THEN YOU CAN COME AND TELL ME IT'S NOT IMPORTANT. (♪♪) (♪♪) >> Adrienne: WE'RE BACK WITH MORE ON THE EXTRA BARRIERS TO GETTING FERTILITY TREATMENTS. WHEN CLINICS ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN, AND SOME PROVINCES DON'T COVER ANYTHING. >> VERY SIMPLY THE IMPACT IS THAT THEY MIGHT NEVER BECOME PARENTS.
AND THAT IS NOT FAIR. >> Adrienne: HERE'S ELLEN MAURO TO BREAK DOWN THESE FRUSTRATIONS AND TO DRIVE HOME WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT TO SO MANY. (♪♪) >> Reporter: BACK WITH RENÉE, THE SUN HAS FINALLY COME UP. SO AS YOU GET CLOSER TO GETTING TO THE CLINIC, WHAT IS GOING THROUGH YOUR HEAD? >> I'M ALWAYS WORRIED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO FIND SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO STOP THE CYCLE, WHICH IS JUST DEFEATING IN GENERAL.
BUT ALSO MEANS THAT I DID THIS WHOLE DRIVE FOR NOTHING. I'VE ARRIVED, 4 1/2 HOURS LATER. YAY. >> Reporter: RENÉE HASN'T BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT A YEAR. >> THE COLD IS WAKING ME UP THOUGH. >> Reporter: SHE NEEDED A BREAK BETWEEN THE END OF HER LAST I.V.F. CYCLE AND TRANSFERRING
THE EMBRYO, SEEING IT AS HER LAST CHANCE. >> IT FEELS REALLY WEIRD TO BE BACK IN THE BUILDING AND IT'S KIND OF JUST -- WE'RE DOING THIS AGAIN AND EVERYTHING THAT THAT MEANS. >> Reporter: AFTER BLOOD WORK IT'S TIME FOR AN ULTRASOUND. >> HOPEFULLY THE LAST TIME. >> Reporter: AND FINALLY A GOOD SURPRISE.
RENÉE'S OVARIES HAVE MORE FOLLICLES THAN SHE EXPECTED. >> THERE'S ACTUALLY 10 FOLLICLES. >> Reporter: MORE FOLLICLES MEANS MORE POTENTIAL EGGS AND MAYBE MORE EMBRYOS.
>> OH, MY GOSH, WOW. THAT'S AWESOME. I WAS NERVOUS TO HAVES ARE LIKE, ONE. 10, OH, MY GOSH. >> Reporter: IT'S A NUMBER THAT MAY CHANGE RENÉE'S MIND ABOUT NOT DOING THAT SEVENTH ROUND OF I.V.F. >> OUR BEST EVER I.V.F. MONTH
WHERE THE TWO MONTHS WE HAD 10 FOLLICLES, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S EXCITING. YEAH.
WE'LL SEE WHERE THINGS GO. >> Reporter: RENÉE WILL BE BACK HERE IN JUST A FEW DAYS. HER LONG DRIVE HOME NOW MADE EASIER FOR ONCE BY THE POSITIVE NEWS. >> THESE ARE ALL OF THE CARDS THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO ME OVER THE YEARS.
>> Reporter:OH, WOW. WE GO BACK TO THE CLINIC TO MEET DR. MAVIS GARCIA, RENÉE'S PHYSICIAN AT MARKHAM FERTILITY CENTRE. >> I NEVER HAVE DISCARDED A SINGLE CARD THAT I HAVE GOTTEN IN THE LAST 10 YEARS. >> Reporter: THIS ONE SAYS THAT YOU ROCK.
DR. GARCIA HAS HELPED COUNTLESS PATIENTS BUILD THEIR FAMILIES. >> THESE PEOPLE WOULDN'T HAVE THESE BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN IF IT WASN'T FOR FERTILITY TREATMENT, RIGHT? >> Reporter:HAVE YOU HAD PATIENTS WHO WANT TO COME HERE BUT JUST CAN'T -- THEY CAN'T TRAVEL THAT FAR, THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE HOTEL STAY? >> YEAH, I HAVE SPOKEN TO PATIENTS FROM ALL OVER ONTARIO, FROM TIMMINS AND FROM THUNDER BAY, AND, YEAH, THE SITUATIONS ARE VERY SIMILAR. >> Reporter: WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF WOMEN NOT BEING ABLE TO ACCESS FERTILITY TREATMENT? >> VERY SIMPLY THE IMPACT IS THAT THEY MIGHT NEVER BECOME PARENTS. THAT'S NOT FAIR. ANY OF MY PATIENTS COULD TELL YOU -- I COULD TELL YOU HAVING GONE THROUGH FERTILITY MYSELF, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU DO BECAUSE YOU WANT TO.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU DO BECAUSE SOMETHING ISN'T WORKING IN YOUR BODY. BUT IT CAN ALSO IMPACT PEOPLE THAT ARE NEEDING FERTILITY SERVICES FOR REASONS NOT ONLY RELATED TO INFERTILITY. CANCER TREATMENTS AND GENETIC CONDITIONS AND THE 2 ISLGBTQIAS PLUS COMMUNITY. SO IT REALLY IMPACTS QUITE A LOT OF PEOPLE.
>> Reporter: THERE MAY BE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HEAR THIS STORY AND HAVE A LOT OF EMPATHY BUT WOULD SAY THAT THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM HAS A LOT OF ISSUES AND MORE PRESSING ONES. WHY SHOULD BE A FOCUS OF THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENTS? WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THAT? >> I WOULD SAY COME TO MY OFFICE. COME TO MY OFFICE AND SIT WITH ME IN THAT CHAIR AND LOOK INTO THE EYES OF SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO BE A PARENT AND THEY CAN'T. AND THEN YOU CAN COME AND TELL ME IT'S NOT IMPORTANT. >> Reporter: RENÉE DID THAT SEVENTH ROUND OF I V.F., A MIRACLE, SHE'S SAYS, RESULTING IN FIVE EMBRYOS.
MORE THAN ALL OF HER PREVIOUS CYCLES COMBINED. SO WITH THE NEW EMBRYOS STILL BEING GENETICALLY TESTED THE ONE BEING TRANSFERRED NOW IS THE ONLY ONE THAT RENÉE KNOWS THAT SHE HAS FOR SURE. >> DONE.
THINGS WENT REALLY WELL. IT WAS A REALLY GOOD TRANSFER. >> Reporter: AFTER IT'S OVER A SPECIAL GIFT FOR RENÉE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> YOU ARE SO WELCOME. >> THANK YOU! >> OH, ALL THE BEST. >> Reporter: WEEKS LATER A SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT -- AFTER -- >> THERE'S A SECOND LINE, THOUGH IT'S REALLY FAINT. >> Reporter: AFTER ALL OF THOSE LONG DRIVES AND MONEY SPENT -- >> I'M PREGNANT! >> Reporter: RENÉE'S DREAM MAY FINALLY BE COMING TRUE.
>> Adrienne:ELLEN, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT EVERYONE AT HOME WANTS TO KNOW HOW RENÉE IS? >> Reporter: WELL, RENÉE IS DOING WELL BUT SHE HAS BEEN HERE BEFORE. YOU KNOW, POSITIVE PREGNANCY TESTS ONLY TO LATER MISCARRY. SO RIGHT NOW SHE'S WAITING FOR HER VIABILITY ULTRASOUND. IF THINGS GO WELL AT THAT STAGE, THAT'S WHEN SHE SAYS THAT HER AND HER PARTNER WILL BE ABLE TO BREATHE A SIGH OF RELIEF. >> Adrienne: OKAY.
SO AS YOU WERE DOING THE WORK HERE -- I KNOW THAT YOU REACHED OUT TO THE PROVINCES AND THE VARIOUS TERRITORIES. WHAT DID THEY TELL YOU? >> Reporter: SOME SAY THAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO IMPROVE ACCESS AND OTHERS SAY THEY DON'T PLAN ON MAKING ANY CHANGES. AND THAT'S WHY THERE ARE THESE CALLS FOR THERE TO BE A NATIONAL STRATEGY. YOU KNOW, I.V.F. IS CHEAPER IN
SOME COUNTRIES AND CANADA HAS ES IT OWN CHALLENGES WHEN IT COS TO GEOGRAPHY, FOR EXAMPLE, BUT ADVOCATES DO WANT TO SEE MORE OF THAT HERE. >> Adrienne: WHEN YOU SEE STORIES LIKE THIS, YOU LOOK FROM AFAR BUT THIS WAS VERY PERSONAL, RIGHT? >> Reporter: THAT'S RIGHT. I RECENTLY DID MY OWN ROUND OF I.V.F. WITH THE GOAL OF FREEZING EMBRYOS AND TRYING TO BUY MYSELF A BIT MORE TIME.
AND IT'S TOUGH WHEN YOU ARE IN IT, AND IT'S VERY EYE OPENING TO BE IN IT. AND THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT I WISH THAT I KNEW YEARS AGO AND I THINK THAT MORE PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW. ONE IS I THINK THAT WE ALL ASSUME THAT WE HAVE THE SAME RUNWAY. UNLESS YOU HAVE A REASON NOT TO WITH YOUR OWN MEDICAL HISTORY OR PERHAPS HISTORY OF INFERTILITY IN YOUR FAMILY. BUT YOU SEE THAT CELEBRITY OR THAT COLLEAGUE PREGNANT IN THEIR LATE 30s AND YOU SAY, OKAY, I HAVE THAT SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TOO. WHAT YOU DON'T SEE ARE THE FERTILITY CLINICS THAT ARE COMPLETELY FULL WITH PEOPLE DESPERATE TO GET PREGNANT.
AND SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE MAY BE YOUNGER THAN YOU. YOU DON'T SEE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SECRETLY STRUGGLING IN YOUR OWN LIFE. SO YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THAT FULL PICTURE. AND MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ACTUALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT SOONER THAN YOU WANTED TO. WHICH IS REALLY TOUGH. THE OTHER THING THAT I WISH I KNEW, AGAIN, YEARS AGO -- IS THAT YOU KNOW, WE TREAT OUR BIOLOGICAL CLOCKS AS THIS HUGE MYSTERY.
BUT THERE ARE ACTUALLY TESTS THAT YOU CAN DO, AN ULTRASOUND AND A BLOOD TEST, THAT GIVE YOU A PICTURE OF WHERE YOU'RE AT IN TERMS OF YOUR OWN FERTILITY. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE OPERATING ON THESE ASSUMPTIONS. YOU CAN BE OPERATING THROUGH THESE TESTS WITH A PLACE -- FROM A PLACE OF KNOWLEDGE. AND THESE ARE TESTS THAT ARE OFFERED BY FERTILITY CLINICS, AND THAT CAN BE VERY EMPOWERING AND IT CAN MEAN THAT YOU CAN TAKE STEPS BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.
>> Adrienne: THESE ARE REALLY GOOD TIPS. WE ALL WISH THE BEST FOR RENÉE AND FOR YOU. >> Reporter: THANK YOU.
>> Adrienne: NEXT, THE CROATIAN DIVER SWIMS OVER A HUNDRED METRES UNDER THICK ICE. >> YOU ARE ACTUALLY BLOCKED FROM THE ICE, YOU CANNOT GET OUT OF THE AREA YOU THAT WANT. >> Adrienne: A REMARKABLE FEAT IS OUR "MOMENT."
FER? LISTEN WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS OR ON YouTube. (♪♪) >> Adrienne: SO THAT IS CROATIAN DIVER VALENTINA CAFOLLA IN A FROZEN LAKE IN THE ITALIAN ALPS AFTER BREAKING A WORLD RECORD FOR WOMEN'S DYNAMIC FREEDIVING. THAT IS THE LONGEST DISTANCE SWAM UNDERNEATH ICE. SO SHE SWAM 140 METRES WITH NO OXYGEN, NO ASSISTANCE, AND TONIGHT VALENTINA CAFOLLA WITH HER ACHIEVEMENT IS OUR "MOMENT." >> I HAVE NO WORDS. I AM SO HAPPY.
TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS COMPETITION, TO SWIM UNDER THE ICE. AND IT'S HOW FAR YOU GO AND I WENT 140 METRES. THE DAY BEFORE MY RECORD, ONE JAPANESE WOMAN BROKE MY RECORD FROM 2017.
SO I WAS REALLY -- IT WAS A SHOCK FOR ME. AND IT WAS A REALLY NICE FEELING TO GET IT BACK. I FOCUSED ON MYSELF AND MY HEARTBEAT. IT IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL BEING IN ICE WATER AROUND 30°. AND ALSO YOU ARE BLOCKED FROM THE ICE -- YOU CANNOT GET OUT WHENEVER YOU WANT. YOU HAVE TO REACH THE NEXT HOLE THAT IS OPEN.
SO I WAS SWIMMING WITH ONE FIN, LIKE A DOLPHIN OR LIKE A MERMAID. I HELD MY BREATH ONE MINUTE AND 30 SECONDS. WHEN I CAME OUT AND I DID THE OKAY SIGN. I ACHIEVED MY GOAL AND I WAS SO HAPPY AND EMOTIONAL. >> Adrienne: IS ANYBODY ELSE TOTALLY CLAUSTROPHOBIC WATCHING THAT? DID YOU CATCH THAT? SHE HELD HER BREATH FOR 1 MINUTE AND 40 SECONDS. SHE BROUGHT HER HEART RATE DOWN TO 50.
AND THAT IS ABOUT THE LENGTH OF ONE AND A HALF FOOTBALL FIELDS. >>> FOR ALL OF US HERE AT "THE NATIONAL," THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. YOU CAN WATCH ANYWHERE, ANY TIME ON THE FREE CBC NEWS APP AND SUBSCRIBE TO "THE NATIONAL'S" YouTube CHANNEL. I'M ADRIENNE ARSENAULT. TAKE CARE. (♪♪) (♪♪)
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