Zbraně v Americe očima Mariňáka z Afghanistánu | Business potápění lodí v mezinárodních vodách #20

Zbraně v Americe očima Mariňáka z Afghanistánu | Business potápění lodí v mezinárodních vodách #20

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so levi thank you very much for coming um last time when we met you looked like someone i really want to talk to because you seem to me as a very experienced guy in the field that i'm really um interested of knowing more about and that is guns afghanistan and some business that can come from it you know and you do all that so i would like to split this podcast to three different parts if we can keep it separated each part each each part that would be great first tell me about yourself where did you grow up like who you were on the high school like who you were as a kid a kid well that's uh you know i wasn't like the the coolest kid you know what i mean i just i got along with mostly everybody you know i didn't really have a problem with anybody it just kind of just fell wherever i fell i was always trying to find my place it was really tough but it took from that point uh you know in high school you know i decided i was going to join the marine corps and i knew nothing about the military i didn't know what the marine corps was so that the salesman you know came in the office one day and at the school and just you were perfect fit i got to get out of here how to get out of out of palmetto um so that's awesome sort of come out of florida interesting so we are local one of the few locals in florida that i actually met because most people up here that i met are from some other places besides florida yeah this state is booming big time so you have pretty similar story to some of my buddies because they told me the exact thing they didn't know who they are what they want to do they were kind of from random city and they didn't want to do what their parents you know did and whatever so they decided to join army but you said that you joined marine corps did you know at that time what you are joining or you had like clearly no freaking idea about marine corps actually does no nothing well very surprised a lot um yeah say the least how long you were a part of marine corps until you got to afghanistan well i went in 07 and then 08 it went to iraq first and then 2000 and then 0809 was iraq and then we had more workups in 08 or i'm sorry 09 and 2010 was afghanistan which one was wars iraq or afghanistan for you well for us for me well everybody in our unit i would say unless they were in for 10 plus years prior to that date of iraq was afghanistan for us iraq was not there's really a big it was slowed down a lot there wasn't really a lot going on it was like we traveled the entire country i mean we we flew in from the in the south and drove all the way across the country and flew out of al-assad but you know we were up near the border for a good bit of pakistan and uh but uh do you think that if your experience would be different meaning that you would first go to iraq and it would be like really bad you wouldn't you would you would hate it that you would you would see a casualties on daily base do you think that would it would change your decision for the second deployment that would be the afghanistan well i don't think i really had a choice either way you know so we didn't have the warning before iraq because i think they knew we were just kind of going in and you know it was just ensuring that things were calmed down and just continuing the same patrols we were doing to make sure that the the aos the area of operations were still under control and that was towards the end when um the taliban just basically stopped and you know as you as you know and everybody knows we as soon as we pulled out of iraq what do they do show up again they showed right back up again and the same thing you know when we got went to afghanistan and we pulled out and the same thing's happening now but um we didn't we had a bigger warning before afghanistan because it was it was a hell hole you know so um so every day that fall so so let's talk more about the afghanistan experience just because i already had some gas guys from iraq so but i didn't really have that many options or opportunities to talk to someone who was in um afghanistan so uh how different the country actually is once we arrived there the first first thing first first things you see how do you react to that like how different it is from our reality they live in another world i mean like another century i mean they just power is a luxury the terrain is rough um you know refrigerators are luxury um they live in mud huts they wipe their ass with their left hand i mean it's a way of life they just 15th century yeah i mean they just haven't interested nothing's changed interesting so they don't i don't think they have a i don't think there's a drive to change it's just their reality is what it is what was your occupation out there what did you do well my my actual job i was a mortar man um i don't we didn't do much of it we did some um we were in a i was a i was attached i was in a weapons company so it was an 81 um platoon 81 platoon which was 81 millimeter mortars and then um for some reason our battalion commander which i didn't think it was a bad idea but it pissed off all the line companies you know alpha bravo charlie and uh because they're the they're supposed to be one of those supposed to be chosen as the main effort and for some reason weapons company was the main effort so we did all the i'd say most of the initial invasions into our new aos clear towns kicking in doors we're basically doing what they're supposed to be doing can you tell me what's aos area of operation okay so everyone we would go in got it so we would you know we get a new mission to go somewhere else we would go in clear it and then um the engineers combat engineers would come in and build us our yeah outputs and stuff like that fortifier are uh interesting our main base can you explain anymore that part when you are going to some new location and you have to take out the enemy and secure it how long can it take is it a matter of hours minutes days like how long the typical operation can um i'd say the first one when we went in probably a few weeks by the time we probably i'd say two to four weeks probably four weeks total to get everything really built um and then we start settling in and um you know some of the local people helped on the first one um they paid a lot more money than all of us put together to do that really yeah so damn yeah how come because they really need them right right yes they they they paid them to close down their bazaar and clear it all out for them they paid them i don't remember what it was 100 grand or whatever but 400 grand i can't remember what it was what was the interaction with the local afghanis like do they mind that you guys are there do they hate on you do they like you or what was the relationship it depends because power is being pulled back and forth between us and the taliban so whoever's in they feel is more in control or i should say they're more scared of then the reaction can change so there's no really they they could come and you know they could tell you everything you want to know or they're scared to death i mean these these people don't and they don't they don't take lightly the the locals helping us i mean they'll oh yeah they'll kill your babies and and rape your women they don't care they're like i said they're in a different reality than ours um for the locals like if you would like to give them a money does it have any value for them or it doesn't like let's say some local farmer and you're gonna show up and you're gonna give him a dollars or something is it just a piece of paper out of there or he can actually buy something for it no they they have i think they have to travel for it um unless the dollars adult dollar has a value to them you know because they can make him get out of the country okay you know potentially i mean even if it's just a bordering country you know 500 will get them really far really you know so paying them like just to close their their bazaar that they had you know the hundred or hundreds of thousand dollars that they paid them i can't like i said i can't remember what it was exactly but it was over a hundred grand you know that went to them and they they there's no way they stayed there yeah what's their money right with that kind of money they just how would you keep it right yeah yeah the taliban's going to come there and they're going to take it from them anyway you know it's just nuts i mean they're masters at burying things but but you know um [Music] when i'm trying to imagine the the area where you guys operate and everything you guys went through uh can you explain me or maybe can you describe me some shitty situations that you guys went through if you don't mind and then on the other hand can you explain me or describe me some nice situation that you guys went through if there is any either way um you know there's a there's a bigger story with um that would probably be more recognizable to people in florida um and everybody that we were with was a guy named tyler southern um he was a quadruple amplitude that's so he lost both legs and arm and most of his um earlier his hand you know there's some left but um but uh he made it uh and he he made it home and he's got i can't tell you how big of a heart that kid's got he's he's an i say kid but he's a grown man but he's uh full of life like you wouldn't believe um and he's probably got the best heart um but there's uh the the it wasn't really though it was bad at the moment you know when when that happened and we were there trying to you know put all the tourniquets on and and going through that for the first time and um it's really the worst part of the entire deployment for me was our command and i i can't say it's every command but it was you know as low as we are on the pecking order it was do as you're told no matter what i get it orders or orders but it was bigger than that it was like our our platoon commander our company commander you know everything was like a what can i do next to put another ribbon on my chest no matter what didn't matter you know and you'd hear our our battalion xo you know we blew up another truck get those marines out in front of that truck those trucks we can't blow up any more trucks get them out there in front of the trucks so it was blow us up before the trucks rather than blow the trucks up is what we're all hearing and we literally looked at each other after we heard on the radio get us in front of the trucks to try to find these bombs instead of these scoopers scooping them up and trying to find them because they're not easy to see i mean i i'd say 80 of the time you're probably stepping on them you're lucky you're lucky to see them it's i mean i told you they're masters of barriers yeah so and it sucks because these officers and and i may be wrong about a lot of them you know i've met some there's some really good ones but it was mostly uh how can they further their career it was oh how can i do a fire mission today or a call for fire or let's fly let's do a call for fire on an apache or let's you know let's call for fire uh um artillery or just and and we'd have times where you know we ran into the enemy right there in front of us i start shooting at him and as they're running he's holding us back because he's in the middle of a fire mission he wants to call instead of chasing the enemy down and and we could have trapped him and got him we could have caught them but he we're in trucks we could have got him but instead it was more important to him to finish his call for fire artillery on absolutely nothing he would literally call on absolutely nothing and then we'd have to go do a battle damage assessment bda because he wanted that on his resume and then when he finally got shot in the hand best day of all of our lives okay how was the new one that you got the replacement guy we didn't get one oh we didn't get our platoon so our our our you know one of our other guides listed guys our platoon sergeant he he just took over you know we didn't need him damn this can be pretty like deadly situations than when you have a guy who is just like trying to make up his ego go go up the ranks but you guys are risking your life there for like nothing it was like one of those moments where he's always just like charge like it's you know like we're keyboard warriors oh my god you know it's just it was it was never about locating and destroying the enemy to him you know it was how can you know how can he further his career with mm-hmm that's all he thought about and he shot you know when he got shot in the hand nobody could call his nine line in he couldn't call nobody no i'm gonna do it myself it was it was an ego thing so if he called in his own line line well the thing is is they write themselves up for their own recommendations for awards and then guess who's guess who's approving them their buddies just above them and their buddies just above them and they've got all these awards and they're and that's why and i'm not saying it's silver stars and bronze stars and you know all these different things don't have the same meaning they used to in my mind yeah you know and it's a lot of people have earned them rightfully earned them and i i don't believe that especially a lot of and enlist you know officers in the military has i think there's a fine line of somebody hooked them up you know how does every officer come out just because they commanded and they all get a silver star are you kidding me you know and unless the guys got to save nine lives or ten lives to get something like that but you just you're in charge so you get a silver star so those are those are the things that i i found to be worse you know and then when i would call things out where you know we have all these tools to make to save lives i you know like mine detectors mine sweepers on trucks utilizing the tools we were given and then telling us no and sending us out there to locate ieds why are we locating ieds they said for the people people know where they are right yeah on foot and every day we went out we lost one or two more marines or we lost a set of eod guys it was it was just like why are we going out why are we still doing this well we got to find all these ieds why are we looking for why are we looking for ids why do we care about the they're setting us up yeah we go out and they tell us they're over there and on our way to that location they set up a freaking daisy chain and they get us again did local and i would call it out and then i had you know and there was uh my a couple of my superiors i said superiors they were you know we're on the lower level still you know then we come up with a petition and i joined in we everybody was upset and yeah you know it got smashed really quick and i ended up taking the blame for it and it wasn't even me that came up with it but but he took it yeah i just you know and everybody called me a coward and i'm just like you know it's it wasn't even about that i was the first guy to take point i was the the first one always i never cared about mm-hmm so doing it and it wasn't always about that it was it was i saw the bigger picture and that's that's how i am today and i'm not gonna i'm not gonna change you know and i i thought that you know i as as i'm my younger self you know my 20s i was like always second guessing you know and not knowing that that feeling of not knowing who you are like you know in high school yeah it was it was always like that and and i had friends that knew that we were doing the right thing but it was bigger than that because they were talking about court martial and it just and it killed me because nobody stood by my side even though i didn't even come up with this this whole scenario so that's something that happened to me over there and uh you know it we went we you know i was only in the beginning of the deployment and we had a long deployment still left but the entire deployment was a it was it was hell and watching our commander in charge you know our our you know and he was lieutenant at the time i think he picked up captain while we were there but just watching him just obviously one thing after the other it was it was just a joke the whole thing was just a joke to me and i don't mean be fighting by side by side with my my friends um yeah i know i know exactly what you mean just you just the missions yeah the the the fake missions and it was almost like they were fake yeah because all you saw was him over there like and he's he's got a peacock chest and air lats he was like a little he was a little man and and it was just you know trying to be big time you know oh my god it was uh when you said you guys were losing one or two marines every day but the locals knew where the where the explosives are like i mean you want to tell me that there was no one above this guy to stop this madness like well no one saw that you guys have let's say two wounded or two dead eventually they stopped eventually it was this only happened for you know a couple weeks and there was a rotation and and it maybe had been you know every three days or so but the mission was mainly for it seemed like for it seemed like forever was to go out and locate ieds and we're all looking at each other it's like are you [ __ ] kidding me but the locals were the ones who are saying we're like the locals know where they are why are we finding ieds for them yeah right it's we're our feet are finding them so crazy it's just i remember last time you told me that the the life of the marine has some value meaning from uh if you well we we looked at it like this so it was the trucks to outfit one of those trucks i think was 700 to a million dollars the life of a marine was only half a million dollars in life insurance so i guess if they're looking at the if they're looking at the accounting it made more sense to lose one of us than it was a truck so maybe that's what they were doing which i wouldn't doubt it is our government you know so yeah what makes more sense cost less that's crazy man like [ __ ] what an experience i have to say but how about some good side of of the time were there some time when the locals like helped you more than they had to or were there some nice times besides just spending time with your buddies um is there something go out every now and then we would make you know relation have relationships with the locals um we'd stop some of the some of the same some of the same places um because they grew all kinds of stuff and that's eating mres was it got old so getting fresh watermelon oh this is what they grow oh i thought like i thought about that they grew something else oh you know they grow everything yeah yeah they grow poppy i mean we first got there it's just poppy everywhere and then um damn they have watermelon i mean it's as tall as your ceiling man yeah double overhead plants damn interesting yeah so you can go and kind of like mingle with them a little bit but not a lot or some yeah and there's some there's some nice people and some of them very seldom but you'd run into some younger kids that were taking english lessons so they were more accepting they were they were learning english so they could kind of they're super interested in it you could tell the there's a younger generation kind of coming up and well no it's that are just they know there's more out there yeah and they're out there wearing when i was talking to my buddy the one from the special forces i told you he said that he doesn't regret being there because he saw the young women up there who at least for some period of time had the opportunity to learn something else besides koran so he's like okay at least they saw that there is more out there because it's not only about religious like um dictatorship pretty much you know like and being a slave of a man and and so on you know so he said like at least we give them this how much this is gonna be beneficial for them in future because of the mess that is going up uh going on there right now well that's not what he what he knows you know but at least they did that you know uh what is your take on the whole afghanistan mission or war as a as a piece how do you process that do you think it was for some good or was that because of money you know people usually talk about like the minerals up there other people are talking about well it's strategic other people are saying oh it's because 9 11. you know what's your take on that i mean i'm not a huge political you know person yeah just europe i don't know everything just your opinion just from what i just from my experience yeah you know i know that where there was massive lithium mines and i had heard that from the local army i mean i i was that was in iraq alone i mean the the natural resources that were in iraq and afghanistan and they even say it now i mean you hear the news look look what we gave up we had technically we had full control of both of those countries we we paid for their army's training we gave them weapon systems and i don't mean i'm not talking about when we left all these weapons systems and vehicles and all this stuff when we just left afghanistan i'm talking about their training their their military 20 years you know for the last 20 years we've been training their military and giving them everything and i don't and maybe they've been there's has to be i i hope that we're getting something in return why would we just do it for free why nobody does anything for free so i mean out of the kindness of some people's hearts but you're not talking about yeah billions billions of dollars you know literally billions yeah over quarters trillions i mean over the last 20 years yeah you know so yeah i know there's lithium mines fuel and oil yeah i mean it's we were there for a good reason and and from the beginning you know well i don't know how much i don't know what we got out of it if we just sucked them dry i don't know and we just don't know it just there's things we don't know and it's just it is what it is and that's why everything we did as far as a mission there was some purpose beside with some of the missions we had but i i i've always been this way and until the last so many years you know i didn't really realize a lot of it the bigger picture of things outside of just hurting with the crowd you know and just do as you're told and shut up and don't think outside the box and i and those a lot of those missions were you could see it you could see him you know our our company commander or battalion commander it was all an ego it was just how can i further my career at my chest do you have any uh trauma from the time any ptsd anything like that that you kind of like um have or you do suffer like on and off yeah i have extreme anxiety like just is that caused by some particular incident i don't know oh it could be yeah i mean just could be got it take medication for it so um okay yeah uh is there something that uh helps a lot with that i mean being a dad staying busy yeah right yeah so like family yeah family family business things like that so if you would just so that's the thing you know like a lot of people who return from those war countries or whatever just because they lack the meaning of a life after that they can end up pretty bad because they are unoccupied to just sit home smoke weed and watch tv i mean that doesn't help you just say that you have to be busy i think the more downtime would be worse and i i actually just had this conversation with my my buddy's wife up in virginia and that's you know and i think that's the truth with a lot of us um the less busy we are the worse we are it gets the worse it gets so i think staying focused disciplined having a decent routine um medications i've never been a big fan and smoking weed and all that i got my card and i'm more clean than that just took a piss test the other day i'll go take it now because i got to do it for this this other thing that's going on but yeah that's what i just i just can't interesting i don't know i'm just i don't like the feeling of not being in control yeah well yeah not everybody has to do it i agree 100 it's just pretty good that you are ever of that and then you are keeping yourself out of it that's that's that's good for you are you glad that you took the chance and went there when you look at it from today's standpoint or would you say like oh i was maybe a waste of time or i was too young maybe i could lose my life or arm or something no i uh as scared as you are at several moments um you don't really i mean it's so funny we you know we made jokes and he's like you know they were asking my buddy was always like what were you thinking you lived in florida you were living the life on the beach i came out of the mountains that's true i got one stop light and a movie gallery and a dollar store all right well everybody has their their reasons and i was so glad you did i'm glad i did it i think everybody has a lot of a lot of reasons why family did it for every you know generations and my grandfather was in the air force it wasn't really you know um world war ii no era or it was that era but it was i don't they never went yeah but during that during that period yeah interesting yeah i mean if you would get a bronze star or silver star back then that was completely different than what you just said like in the beginning you know like if you are just in afghanistan just calling your shots and you want to be a big time hero but you are wounding and killing your own man and then on the end you will get a bronze star how you want to relate it to that guy who was on omaha beach or some other yeah now it's it's like the you know it's like what's going around right now with the participation awards yes exactly right exactly and it goes to the military as well i'd love to actually see how many officers came out of this war with a you know at least a bronze or silver star how many um we're getting probably i'd love to i'd love to actually see the statistics interesting yeah or any award of that caliber you know it just i'd love to see that and i it just i don't really know if it i think there's benefits outside the military like a purple heart well-deserved benefits for that stuff you know you know between taxes and certain things i think they're well deserved but i i think that some of the people that can write themselves up for their own awards and their buddies can just write them up for the rewards and second buddy it's a you know it's a buddy system and you know because people didn't like someone that's enlisted it's just you know they they lose out on any anything because i call it um i don't know you know suck and dick you know and people were doing that all right second thing what i want to talk to you about is um the gun gun thing you know we obviously we are in the united states and people especially in europe they don't realize that the united states were developed on completely different base uh the gun tradition is um on completely different level than it is in europe what is your take on that how healthy is the second amendment uh today um when you say system i there's i i believe there's more than one and there is it's it's it's there's more than one system it's you have your second amendment the government can only do so much around that and that's what they're having a problem with and and i i don't know the ins and outs of it you know i just do and i try to read what i'm allowed to do you know with not only federally but you know within my state i don't just do things because it's my right you know it's my second amendment right you know i don't need on all that i just you know there's so many regulations all over the country you know you you can't own a firearm in jersey unless you go through all kinds of crazy crap and give them a reason why you want one it's you know it's just why would you want to live in a dictatorship like that i just and i i understand and i why so many people are moving here this pandemic is really i don't like calling it that because it's not a pandemic so um it's a brain pandemic it's yeah it's all in their heads so it's all these people are coming here because they realize how much of a whack job there's the people are that are running their states and people want to you know hate the way florida's being run but you know what this is the only real piece of freedom you know i i don't know how many other states i don't look into them texas could be one of them you know like arizona i mean there's some good states tennessee you know and and that probably iran just like florida um or similar but i don't you know we have a our county is great you know it's it's what would you say to people who will tell you that you should not have a gun because if no one will have a gun it's going to be safer well why don't you do the same with knives i mean i'll stab you with a spoon i mean it's just i mean it's they're all deadly weapons if you want them to be anything can be it's whether you're close or you know 500 yards away you know it doesn't matter it's it's you get shot with a gun somebody wants to kill you they're going to come and kill you and they're going to figure out a way how so what is a gun oh so it's about it so it's about a person it's not about the gun yeah yeah i mean it's just chair gun knife spoon you can use whatever you want just the matter of how long it takes you to get to the i've been talking to a few guys from some gangs in los angeles from bloods gang and they said they will rather get shot than stab because shooting wound is gonna get healed quicker than the knife went because the knife is made of from whatever it is made they don't even know it's a most likely way better perfect cut than the shot wound and it's gonna heal worse it also bleeds way more and when they were telling me all that i'm like oh yeah the knife yeah i mean it's just gonna go through and they were showing me like wounds that they have like you know the holes after bullets and after stabbing from prison and stuff they said i would rather take like nine millimeter than get stabbed and i'm like damn like i'm sure it's a it's a the pain is a lot quicker you know it's just it's so fast i i i i mean i've watched i've not i have not been shot myself you know but i've i've watched several people get shot or blown up and you know as fast as it happens you know i you know one of the guys got shot in his ass and he all i hear is oh [ __ ] that was it you know and it came downstairs it was obviously painful but you know i i can't imagine the stabbing of a slow and and just ongoing ongoing you know so that's uh it's a big wound it can't be a big wound yeah they said like just uh they've already take a shot which was kind of very interesting i did i to be honest i didn't even expect he's gonna say such a thing you know but as i said like i used to live in california for quite a time uh obviously a society that bans or restrict guns from good people are gonna suffer under guns from a bad people that are gonna still keep their guns they are not gonna go and just give them away so this argument of oh just like give up your guns and government is gonna take care of you it's kind of like weird right what's your take on that if someone has this argument like from all those states like illinois you know you got chicago it's like capital murder of the united states nowadays look at the statistics i don't personally know the exact statistics look at the statistics of police response time how much how much can i do to you in two minutes just say it's two minutes how bad can i hurt you as just a a weak person taking over how bad can they be hurt it's gonna take it could only take 30 seconds seconds to kill someone in a two-minute response time and then if you look look at the statistics with chicago or california yeah or these places with the the highest gun restrictions you got highest gun restrictions look at look at how high their murder rate is with guns and the only people that have them are the criminals you know so i i just i would just say look at this to statistics we don't even have an argument about it because you can't fight facts yeah exactly yeah i always i always uh mention this and they always will say oh but this um let's say last school shooting it happened with legally possessed gun i'm like yeah that it always will happen like i mean bad [ __ ] will happen like at if you have thousands and thousands of incidents which you have because just during a weekend in chicago they have like 70 to 100 shootings a week over the weekend which is you will have 10 15 20 people that no one really talks about it you know la same thing new york same thing you literally have hundreds of people dying every week maybe every month you know you have homicides all over the country but no one really mentions that as a problem instead of that they will pick one specific incident so they can use that for a gun restriction loss and i don't really understand people who are in favor of that just because i feel way safer next to someone like you who knows how to use the gun who has the gun and who knows when it's appropriate to use it then just someone who is weak incompetent doesn't know anything about guns and things like a world is just some paradise garden you can't you can't have a logical conversation with someone like that because they're not they're not looking at like i said you you if you if you took all the statistics of all their arguments and and and factored their opinion all they have is an opinion they're not coming up with facts well the school shooting this oh well it happened in a gun you know a a gun full of gun you know or a pro-gun state um okay that's i get it they they have flaws but it's obviously taking the guns away like the states that you like doesn't work either so how how how how can you argue yeah okay how can you how can you have an argument you can't talk to someone that ignorant you really can't so because there's no facts behind their anything they're saying they just have they're just full of opinions and that's most of what they call the left side of things now and that that's you know it's pretty i love ben shapiro man that guy he's killing him he is killing it he is killing it so factual and matter of fact you cannot stop him he just goes like that you know oh he goes so witty he's so witty and it's so great okay folks today we are gonna talk [Laughter] uh yeah man i like him too i i don't watch him every day but i watch him once in a while and it just comes up you know yeah he's spot on i like his uh tiktok reaction videos to voc tiktoka and that's my favorite one it's usually like very very funny because he's just losing it you know he's exposed to the wars of the united states it's the area where he would normally never go but people who works with him they know it's gonna make views so they're pushing him to do that and he he's like why do you do this to me it's crazy you know i like him so uh when we will come back to the second amendment you say there's a lot of guns uh restrictions and laws on federal and state level what do you what can you actually do in florida just if you will say okay i'm applying my second amendment can you open carry can you conceal carry can you just uh purchase a gun and keep it at home what can you actually do just because of the second amendment well before i go into what i know i want a disclaimer disclaimer look up your laws in local counties everybody has their own you know every municipality has their own talk to sheriff look at your local laws as much as you look at the federal ones just because you see the second amendment doesn't mean you can do whatever you want yeah sure it's it's just that's why i love florida so much is because it's it's pro-gun from the federal level all the way throughout the state it just as long as you do what you're supposed to do and follow the guidelines you know ask for opinions get a part of some forums like i do you know you don't know something you ask open carry not allowed in florida um concealed carry you gotta have a permit um anything are you talking about full auto or you know suppressors stuff like nfa items you know that kind of stuff you need tax stamps it has to go through the atf and the due process of background checks it's not you know it's it takes time um i you know as long as it takes to get a suppressor i was really surprised uh you know one of them took seven months one of them took nearly a year i'm still waiting on another per for personal owned with a tax stamp but my class three ffl firearms license and you know sot license only took about i want to say five months at the most and that's as a manufacturing federal firearms license holder i can manufacture class 3 weapons you know full auto suppressors you know as as demo guns you know demonstration weapons um it's kind of i just i can do whatever i'd like um under the laws you know stay within you know the limits of the law um register them and do what you're supposed to do and the atf just wants to know what you're doing yeah and what's great about florida is just you know don't be idiot yeah don't be an idiot and then you know just you've got and even your local municipalities i'm only able to do what i like have a i can only manufacture certain things within my area or area so like manatee county i can only well we really don't want you manufacturing you know uh you manufacture firearms but not ammo within my county limits it's like uh you know it's just one of the rules so we just gotta check all that stuff well you just debunk a huge thing i guess right now because people literally in i mean i'm gonna talk specifically about europeans they really think that all you have to do in u.s is go to walmart pick up a gun and then go outside and you can start shooting that's what a lot of people with this like liberal mindset will actually think but you just mentioned you need to have different license you have to really like go through a process you have to get your background check it seems to me it's not that easy that you can just go and say oh i want this rifle or i want this maybe in some other states it can be like that you know there's 50 states good only knows what you know what laws they have up there but what you just described to me seems to me like a typical process of getting something that is uh able to do some kind of damage to you or others same like car or whatever you have to go through something to be able to receive it and that's what you just pretty much confirmed that it is like that you know so it's not like black and white it's not yeah it's not as simple as they make it sound there are things like we have spoken about before that you know if if you really sat down at the table i could come up with i could come up with at least one or two things that should change you know and i think they did change you know even buying a rifle as when i was 18 i don't i don't know when it changed in the past how many years but you were able to buy a rifle you know a shotgun or bolt action rifles anything past a certain yeah i don't remember what exactly what it was but rifles in general uh 18 to 20 you could buy a rifle um if you had you had to wait three days for the background check you know that you have to hold paper you got to fill out they go go through a background check you know the government you know it's all done through the you know system this is all done through the system the government system um and then now i think everything's 21.

and you weren't able back then you weren't able to buy a pistol until you were 21 or older and uh as soon as as soon as i turned 21 i got my concealed carry i was like that's got to get it was that something you were like looking forward to get it like yeah well my you know my dad i think or my grandfather it was just somebody along the line i think the people that i was in the marine corps with there was make sure you get your conceal you know it was one of those things so uh that was the first thing i did i went to a gun show in tampa and luckily because the military experience i didn't have to do all the little stupid stuff i mean why not right like it's uh it really carries with it some at least a symbol of freedom once you are possessing a firearm because if you will look on the society that was used some um with you know with through some regimes or whatever all that citizens were unarmed they didn't have weapons like in us there there is hundreds of millions of weapons amongst the civilians and you will only hear about individual incidents when some [ __ ] is going bad you know even if it would be every month which is you know like you have to consider the amount of guns that are all over you know and i have to be honest i feel here in florida i feel so freaking safe way safer than i feel in california because out there as i told you earlier all negative criminals are allowed to carry a guns my buddy works in a jewelry business he doesn't work in the store but he sells to the store but only like diamonds and rolex and stuff like that when he went to the sheriff office and he said that he needs a console carry because he is carrying very often let's say five hundred six hundred thousand dollars jewelry on him when he's going to his client they said just get insurance and then he will tell me stories from the same week when his buddies who are in the same business are getting wrapped on the street during the daylight oh yeah well they don't care and where is this they don't care in los angeles during the daylight i i still have the videos too bad i didn't i didn't well it goes along with those there's there's a i don't know who made these videos but you know they had this people have this mindset that you're just supposed to they had the cop walk up to the guy and he's pointing the cops pointing the gun at the guy and it's obviously it was he had just done something and he's telling him to stop and then he takes his foot he's like takes his foot up and he goes put your foot down put it down and then he finally gets back to his car and he can't do anything about it and he goes in the glove box don't touch that gun don't touch it and all the way to the point where he points the gun out and he's like dang it not again and that cop puts his gun down and then he's just supposed to drive off that it's it's literally it's mocking the mentality of people thinking that like cops can't use escalation of force and people can just point a gun in their face and that's okay and they can just drive away that's not what's happening they're gonna shoot them but it's it's just making a mockery of that that mentality exactly all the abs yeah yeah all the all the bs that's going on and it's it's hilarious just watch the video but i like when you mention the response time to two minutes because when there were uh riots in los angeles in 2020 man it was huge hundreds of stores looted burned like hundreds you know in santa monica alone i think it was over 300 stores per night it was crazy the only stores that they didn't get wrapped where the stores in koreatown because the koreans stand on the roofs of their stores with the shotguns and nobody touched them you literally could drive on the street and you would see a two guys older and younger korean guy like probably father and son or grandfather and son and they were there armed and they were guarding their store they didn't get touched guess why because the respawn time at that time were not two minutes there were zero response time because the cops were just running away like i literally have videos because they can't do anything but then they go back and prosecute they've got a picture of a guy holding a gun that was protecting his property and his family oh yeah and they'll try to prosecute someone like that while the rest of them are running and looting and and they let him out of jail the next day and it's just it's crazy this this stuff that's going on that they're trying to make examples out of gun owners and instead of trying to protect them for protecting themselves and it's it's and i have to say the 2020 had uh it was it was a big wake-up call for me politically because i literally saw how the state can take care of its uh citizens meaning it cannot like if you didn't take care of your own stuff you were just left alone and it was crazy and until then i didn't really kind of like focus on politics much and you know things like that as we mentioned the pandemic started at the time and all this stuff people before that they didn't really care much they just lived their life until the government came step in and start to like punish them for no reason and then the looting and everything took off and i at that time i was i was really glad that i know a lot of guys who had guns because if some [ __ ] would go down we would be able probably like take care of our ass but like if you would be just surrounded by people who live their life on instagram and in starbucks well then the reality would be pretty harsh for you you know like i'm it's kind of hard to say but that was the reality at that time you could you literally could get rob on the street like like normally you know it was crazy i just i i don't really understand how everything that bad happens you have to just keep deflecting blame well oh someone gets shot deflect blame off the person point the gun oh well i was i was you know i don't i don't know it just it's they're always trying to someone's always trying to blame the other side yeah they're just they're just trying to blame the physical objects rather than just the person and just making them take responsibility for what happens yeah it's about it's and how can they change the due process of coming in possession of these things and i'm not saying get rid of them i'm not like a huge you know i need to own a gun because it's my right you know it's just no be responsible if there's plenty of responsibility well why do you need a full auto machine gun well because i [ __ ] want one because it's fun to me you like mountain climbing or bicycle riding what's it matter that i like to do this yeah why does it matter you like to do all these other things i don't like to do that yeah stop coming and attacking me for you know they're all about these you know i i want to do you know what's best for me and you know it's the pronouns and all that [ __ ] that's going on and that's all okay i don't you know i and i have no problem with it do what do you do don't come at me and and antagonize me and and come and try to attack me for what i like yeah i agree yeah so uh i would like to get to the third third part of our conversation because it kind of goes like hand by hand with the with the second part that i want to talk about talk about like the guns and the laws regulations and stuff and things like that so this is your boat and for people who probably don't see it clearly this boat is fully equipped by not typical boat equipment but it's i could buy how would you describe it heavy machine guns or my gunship gun yeah okay let's say that way so can you describe us what we can see on this photo um that's an m2hb that's a 50 caliber machine gun um that is full auto machine gun um it is registered it is registered with the atf it's logged in my logbook correctly it's all done how's it going by the book it is labeled you know engraved like it's supposed to um we have another gun mount there i have another one that i registered it's not up there but this one that one there yeah that's a that's a m249 that's the same thing i know that one from call of duty yeah that's a m249 saw it's a you know that's uh that one's fun to shoot that's a five five six caliber the other one's 50 caliber i bet so now do you think you can explain us why do you have it on on your boat like that i'm allowed i mean so i i've done everything i can to figure out why i would not be able to do what i'm trying to do maybe you can first tell do you think maybe you can first tell like what is the thing that you are actually trying to do because then people will really understand why you need this on the boat so i've always been like i said outside the box i think a lot you know what can i do to earn the next dollar that somebody else isn't also doing you know everybody everybody knows somebody that's in the ac business everybody that everybody knows somebody that's especially a realtor i mean you can't i mean both i mean there's several industries out there and you've got to be you know so i try to create and have tried to create multiple streams of revenue just if it was just by buying in something flipping and selling it yeah so the boat thing was you know we were all bullshitting at the ski shoot range and guys talking about what guys talk about you know be kind of cool if we created like a offshore casino slash strip club slash and i'm like yeah and slash right yeah pronouns too you can have them you gotta pay to play so and i was like yeah we'll take some machine guns out there and boats and blow [ __ ] up too because we were like well we realized like well casinos start up on cruise ships nine miles out because of the state laws and i started thinking like you know i'm like yeah well why why can't we do that you know you know we a buddy of mine some of us started thinking more in depth and i i started thinking a lot more in depth and i'm like i'm one of those people once i get focused on something and i really think it's going to work i won't stop you just go i just do it so i told only a select few and i they may have not have thought that i was for real of course i wouldn't believe you so i was i just started my first step was licensing but we have to say so i'm gonna i was creating the whole idea was the casino thing was too much the strip club was too much it just it's it's too much to move back and forth out there but the machine guns i could get something pretty fast and get back and forth so we created offshore i created an offshore machine gun charter experience kind of like on land but we say what better [ __ ] paper targets where we can shoot steel biodegradable objects the navy does it the coast guard does it there's international law i mean there isn't any uh i mean that they go out there and do it all the time why what's different about them than me so besides them being the government or the dod that's the only difference but i also have every license to own everything i'm bringing back and forth so well if someone if someone should be doing this you are the person because you know what's up and plus you love what this is all about you know if someone would do it just for the money and greet they would probably like you know [ __ ] up some restrictions or they would be wacky about well i've always wanted to be able to own machine guns like this yeah right we shot all i mean i've shot you know other ones you know cooler than these but i'm allowed to own those too but at some point and i just it's just about affordability and these are even about affordability so i the only way you could really afford to own something like this unless you just you know made tons of money doing other things and you just do it as a hobby it's great but for me to be able to afford it in business it's a business create a business i can't afford millions of dollars of land but why i figured why do i need to the world's made of more ocean than anything and there's no laws out there saying i can't do this man that's amazing i really love that that's also that's one of the reasons i really want to talk to you just because i mean i can talk to someone about guns and about war but this is so freaking unique when i first time was told about this and about you i thought i just misunderstood i'm like can you say it one more time he's doing what he's shooting uh old rag ships in international boulders with heavy machine gun do you have his phone number like you know because you don't really you really don't see this every single day you know especially on this level i mean if you will have a pistol and you're gonna shoot there something okay that's one thing but look what you guys mounted there like i don't really see that on on the boats next to people who are just swimming you know well so that's that goes back to the open carry concealed carry thing so i'm actually in that picture i'm just to the right of that picture fishing so if you in florida florida has a very unique law regardless of opinion you're allowed to open carry if you're going to and from the shooting range doing fun to and from fishing and to and from hunting you can open carry well i could not find and my attorney cannot find the restrictions on what you can open carry now i'm not trying to encourage people to yeah i'm not saying like this right here was for a photo op it was a quick photo thing you know and believe me i would have got more if people weren't freaking out out there so i had my fishing pole while i had a buddy on another boat i was fishing just to the right of this picture on the boat and and i was it was legitimately fishing so i'm open carrying a 50 caliber machine there's guys in florida just recently i think it was in miami area they're walking down the beach ar strapped across the front tackle box fishing pole walking to the pier needless to say cops got called they had to let them go it turned into kind of a fiasco and there was a vid i think there was a video of it and they're you know they could have gotten trouble if it went any farther but he is doing everything within his rights they're trying according to state law you can open carry it there's no statute of limitation that i found on what you can open carry now will i do this again in an open area probably not yeah you know it was cool just for a quick picture believe me i put those up just as fast as they went i put them away faster than i put them up because it was so it's just people were like oh my god i mean what they probably thought i was going to just take i'm just trying to i'm trying to process the whole situation when you are mounting this heavy machine gun on your boat and next to the boat is some other ball river family that is just oh you don't even see the rest to the front of the boat the bow off the bow behind us and all around it was probably there's probably a thousand people oh my god yeah i was happy you're mounting this yeah so that must be nuts that is crazy i don't know how people were like oh my god like taking pictures obviously the boat was built for this they know they could see they know anybody with common sense yeah you know a lot of people just don't know yeah so there's there's probably a good mix um but it we got people got some pictures and i hope they find us and they're like oh my god can you say the name of the company and say nice and loud and repeat it 20 times just make it sound the name of the company is red state armory llc and the name of the boat is barrel illegal barely legal because it's obviously you know we're it's i'd say it's probably on a fine line but it is 100 legal yeah betterly legal what i've found but i'm sure that so when you were going through this process you mentioned your lawyer but i'm assuming you had to talk to sheriff coast guard to who did you have to who you have to get the touch with to fully understand what you actually can do because maybe the sheriff can tell you as much but when it comes to the

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