Вебинар 1. ЛВС на промышленном объекте: специфика, особенности, отличия.
college thanks for coming so everyone colleagues, good afternoon, let's start me name is Timur Dautov I work for top technologies here technology is a manufacturer of network industrial grade solutions so second today we are starting a series of webinars dedicated to industrial networks today we have local computing industrial network is an introductory webinar about the features of just her local area networks on industrial facilities today will not be no heavily wrapped stories anymore overview albin visibility further with us more specific webinars dedicated to the tasks of the customer happy topic specifics solution which we propose to use in customer work, I'm talking about digital power engineering of the oil and gas industry transport and automation and digitalization now everyone calls it reflective means what today let's talk about what's different industrial grain this common from usual where it is applied we go to more in demand I'll tell you a little about examples how this is implemented at the end I'll tell you about our company is a small session questions and answers at the end we can spend I think I will do it in 35-40 minutes by ten or fifteen we will have at the end the question is so first, in general, I'll tell you about what is happening now and now the 4th industrial revolution is happening names 40 more industries without highlighting and even because she is perfect different from what happened before the first revolution it was an invention right machine conveyors afterwards automation with computers and all of them characterized the topic that those who do not became involved in this lost in competitive struggle, the one who did not choose a car lost here mister not began to introduce conveyors of computers lost in our time, the one who loses it will not implement industrial networks artificially directors like this there you are an example of what modern looks like production is the main concept today became a digital twin, the point here is that business owner want to receive complete model of both physical objects so and what should happen to them that is, production processes and this solves the main problem as quickly as possible and learn qualitatively about the fact that something went wrong and also quickly give a command to adjustments we adjustments and all this should take place, if possible, without participation of the human factor if just melts looks so visible data transmission information network or even say about her unified information network united data network not applicable today to any business and atomic station and chain of hipster caffeine the reality is that nobody today will be able to work without networks there is a fundamental difference between hipster coffee shops not industrial object if hours in a coffee shop it will be easy a small loss for the owner and a pleasant minutes of rest for the employee but if something goes wrong in the industrial object then this is at best billions of dollars in losses and in the worst case death of people and propaganda don't try he is her loss a good example is for example shia leak offshore platform to these petroleum or the well-known turbine is constantly Shusha hydroelectric power station and in this case we are talking about such a thing as critical process if work network is related to the provision of critical important processes of those processes that when stopping may incur losses may damage a person's life then ordinary everything these are not suitable click industrial networks class also has such a concept as rhythm of production on what here talking about the production of products must be done on time and at a given price if a batch of defective a product with a rhythm if not noticed for the robot to burn out if we did not spend time with Garik production how they struggle with it today to put sensors wolf war and points video camera controller and the like things it all unites all these transmissions data and the data network becomes in this case bottleneck if she gets up then production stops or stop an industrial shutdown then the rhythm of production is disturbed and again we return to understand political processes and directly important connections between data networks on production with these processes is a little about the signs of what is different industrial solutions usually with one of the clearest signs that equipment belongs to industrial class of this physical performance there are a number of sectoral standards by almost all include Your main holidays are sustainability temperature exposure to increased humidity and dust also blow and vibration resistance increased accuracy to electromagnetic radiation in addition to improve equipment reliability need her the fans passively cooled down for a long time moreover, the fan will not be being dragged when inside the device and devices the pass will overheat also the device must be equipped with two power inputs in special critical cases device equipped with two independent blocks power supply and this is a must-have third the most important feature of the equipment industrial grade is embroider extended warranty and extended Komi works refusal I will give an example for example if we take telecom operators then their equipment has a lifespan of 34 years it is as if the beads are comfortable re-passed the 4g stream was switched photo 45 they delivered this kind of clean years removed put a new one and I need these they need guarantees cheaper because they you need to constantly change the network in addition to telecom operator has a large staff qualified employees who can it all quickly perry configure configure fix narrowly adjust to provide service with industrial customers the situation is straight brother equipment works for 10-15 years the strongest personnel hunger or besides turnover cannot to stand in such places where it is impossible to reach a month or beyond the Arctic Circle in a swamp on some hills in the taiga of others inaccessible places different types of certification have been developed for which certifies equipment to you could of course sensibly class from below the icons of these different stories will tell you a little later about it when it was considered industry details by the other side medal becomes network architecture here unreliability becomes the most important again ring-shaped topology ring topologies with accelerated and emerging networks such as mrp ii rps some kind of proprietary protocols are gaining great popularity now redundant topology loss is excluded packets are protocols and be patient becomes more and more included in living with you in the south of ethics standard mack the neighboring 850 will tell you about it. also in industry strongly specific protocol required such profinet pro of bases of bases of bases mqtt from arcade and so on and so forth not all devices can work with them not everyone can guarantee delivery of these specific packages from folds spain looking for devices and back industrial devices are those a device that can perform this task and this distinguishes them these are all ordinary cities allows us to highlight the construction industrial networks into a separate task on this slide I have collected everything various comparative table main the difference that we see in the end what if it is planned to operate for outside the village if the service life exceeds 3 years if stopping packet transmission is possible lead to critical loss of profit or threaten human life in all these cases it is necessary to build a network and reliable and safe that is, all these industrial grade like finished with this block if you want something now to ask about this can I answer or I will translate a little to markets where it is applied sergey there have a question sergey [music] no reaction scurvy no colleagues you Can you hear me, tell me what's good Sergey problems with sound colleagues write Sergey reads their questions in the chat if something needs to be answered right now he is not will tell if if something is not urgent he and will record both the end and the end of the presentation we we will answer them all, okay let's go further we will tell you a little about the area applications where most of you have you been industrial look how we do it ourselves present means he we have a railway ordinary transport and sea cities are different slide but it looks like the story that we are we know about the railway railway the road is an object dangerous to life human this definition refers to the very railway to trains to the arrows to the semaphore crossings to through train stations and everything that is covered further etc performance and reliability requirements on the railway one of the most stringent is internationally certified m50 155 most important of helping at 50 121 not we have ets2 there it is described how much it should be device steadily electromagnets impact to shock to shaking described necessary using protected enclosures are often used specific connectors such as name 12 thread resistant by 445 does not survive in trains and on the M12 railway specific threaded connectors are not which are often used also like take in the method of history in the city less strict requirements but the specifics are that urban infrastructure is more there is a lot of content there is a lot of camera junctions of other infrastructure therefore it is important to have third level to build complex more ports are important if the railroad can supply 6 and 8 12 ports then the city often needs 16 24 ports in how many cameras are there in the city connected through the gift through understood by and plus and speeds already here reach 10 gigabits per second for there is also a special application for them certificate by ts2 international certification for which equipment certified about which you can use to control urban traffic is also popular in the city using wireless wi-fi networks 3g 4g in all cities now the coverage is simple gorgeous what can't you say iron the roads on the railroad pass with us close forests mountains with a tunnel exit tell about sea transport with our the point of view of ports and ships is most sophisticated information system the ship of this information system which floats port and other structure to land it looks like requirements plus certification d'angelle which allows claim manufacturers that its equipment resistant to moisture and exposed to salty salt steam can be applied in infrastructure like on ships and nearby, which is interesting and that her in river transport for me the goal is in demand so we have further further automation automation of industrial objects, this is generally one of the main consumers of our solutions because on about important objects from the Vatican conditions in the shops there are vibrations of the machine dirt oil magnetic fields not only reinforced specialized devices able to work flawlessly in such terrible conditions in addition, industrial facilities are scada control herpetal like they communicate through these amazing standards pro norman bass he will buy Siemens protocol 7 and many, many other networks here quite difficult here often demand is already the gateway of the Internet of Things protocol gateways very large zoo interfaces a serial interface and 233 485 on the analog interface all this it is necessary to collect and collect hard conditions therefore all factories that are i said before just can't now ignore or digitalization everyone can be great consumers and they such are the entire line of industrial networking solutions they can consume digital energy smart grid differently referred to as substation numbers already asking about max 750 part one the question is what can I say here work endless end in russia adopted and digitized programs 10:30 worldwide standard 61 750 adopted as the leadership of russia's actions not an exception too tough enough the standard is almost as strict as on the railroad here the networks must work flawlessly with the package they must disappear, that is, we talking about 0 milliseconds network recovery is easy to understand if you remember how fast there are processes in the energy sector we talking about the speed of light about electronic plasma and at the same time we we're talking about the standard the transformer must operate for 50 years they even try to new standards in my opinion advance to 90 respectively if some control signal did not go something is frozen warehouse transformer did not work all consumers burned out left without industrial electricity enterprises were left without electricity and the transformer itself costs like local salary strength which, of course, is also unacceptable in general in under this program it is planned we work very hard on it all new facilities will be built according to these standards old will be transported to standard nearest mix click is a very serious customer oil and gas industry and mining I highlighted the industries in a separate slide because whoever says it the basis of our economy is Russian our point of view is oil and gas and forgetting the industry is more consumer level automation mining ops may 3 mining often demanded explosions protection against them zone 2 much less often from their zone the day is generally Asada dreamed while in oil gozias the requirement is at all angles and at Sparting on mining and processing then a separate big story I'm planning a webinar in April on this topic where I will tell you in detail in which production processes at which stages oil and gas what tasks need to be solved how do we solve with the help of industrial network devices I will briefly say that it is in demand here almost all switches are single and protected explosion protection and with specific protocols and complex network topology everything is all everything is needed here stopping production is a huge loss huge reputational losses and an incredibly powerful threat to our deck this and everyone did not hear oil and gas dangerous things so in short it is in short about where we are in demand now is a little I'll tell you about examples of implementation where it is was realized by our company simply to illustrate how this might work examples of course are not much more here Sergei himself got it now to plug ask to turn on sergey sergey but you can hear me yes everything is finally heard everything Well, let's go a little bit more about cysts. questions about video surveillance so there are switches for video surveillance yes there is direct it said with us automation or in the city industrial design we have a whole line that supports software and plus by and plus it is 30 watts per full port means day rack switches we can support a maximum of 8 ports on and plus is 240 watts per switch rack switches give 720 wadded whole rack that's 24 pandas denied from we also separate yet industrial software injectors if needed I can power something separately separately in at the end of the run, take it briefly like this respectively with these with switches battle plus with ports on and plus is as unmanaged switches so managed L2 switches so cool 3 3 levels depends on the task there is even a customer will we have to fix it further observations I will tell means that you are we we see on this case the task is enough old five years but she shows that what happened five years ago our the company together with Schneider electr I will make a big project as an electrician Malaysia, the whole network there worked according to the old minutes from Bashar Teiu this is the last the protocols were about a small upgrading to transfer to these field protocols have been established protocol gateways we reserve it which worked according to the standby principle which made the network more manageable they polled the modbus device by specially designed scenario that allowed in a more more online format know what is going on wear the thing is that we are the periphery itself does not know how from you work on the event is not yet sport what what happens she won't tell you given case, this problem was solved well and an industrial network was built on top with the rstp ring then there were no such requirements how is the network now the old electrical network was modernized this story about norway there the company would invite us to partners they did all the automation a hefty tunnel of 18 liters of beer for example for example the longest tunnel in moscow or force tunnel tristan kilometer norwegians parar or his mountain connected north south made 15 a kilometer tunnel is very difficult there the automation system is a traffic light and conditioning very sensors then flow sensors many rooms were built too 3 5 3 level used by our mutators industrial line origin 628 game in aggregation rather, ours here is not such a complex network to have a core not on access were the day it was not switches of which more mixtures in the number of ports serious the project it all works now it is ends very interesting in short what trust our companies to make a report jakarta here the specificity is the fact that it is very hot in Russia we are we often face the cold do not forget about what is at industrial facilities can often be very hot and usually even this cisco is so commercial gorgeous at plus 60 will die for week either the fan dies by itself or she sucks dirt or something happens it is also very large airport and dispatchers do not see what occurs at the end of the strip therefore this case video surveillance becomes critical process down and network cctv rises then stops takeoff and landing it huge losses are life threatening person was very serious here built such a fairy tale from networks based on the world of ths and brandy mark ashley were built used our switches for connecting a video camera is also enough large mesh for mission critical German housing process know the road and the italian railway tube case are almost the same C systems were built system service passengers on our switches here the story is that the system itself train control is laid at the stage designing multimedia systems and similar this is the next stage this a separate network but they are also considered critical because if passengers cannot be notified of some events that train stops right here in demand just certification capacity from 155 shock resistance vibration resistance specific electromagnetic loads connector m12 and besides, here already need gigabit speed and battle so we talking about past multimedia content camcorders here is a brief overview of the cases if interested some other case we probably have yes, you can ask, click the slide, I tell you I'll tell you on my fingers or maybe after presentations I will find other other sergey do you want to add or add i will go further I want to add that since already the question was raised about 61 a850 we will have a separate presentation dedicated and planning in two weeks so please welcome we will tell you about this is also well, yes, let's make it out of a separate mailing by dates of webinars so well let's move on then a little i I'll tell you about our company and why we offer we believe that with us it's a pleasure to work so top technology is a Taiwanese company which has been founded for over 30 years 8th year ago 8th year of the beginning the bottom is the main focus and it remains and to this day these are industrial solutions in difference from world vendors such as detectives others we do not produce commercial some products are there usually middle names switches like our line industrial it means what it means a we have a 5-year warranty for the whole line everything that is produced passes 100% output control and this saw with my own eyes when I was factory large ovens large stands there all this is recorded has its own big sleep is not a laboratory and where are tested development protocols in the company on more than two hundred work today thirty people were recently added team for cybersecurity is now about 200 50 man, more than half of them are employees are not orc r & d and pro and at production, that is, we have our own hardware software development and iron so we can quickly fix bugs if not, we can quickly finish under the customer's functional Odessa is it is necessary and we can quickly at all earn a new model if needed requires a project means from our company there are several branches itself large branch in food and in indonesia in india also there is development and sale but India is now one of the most large world markets in indonesia second team that works harder busy automation there is big examination also have a branch commit Germany and Russia where we are big markets as you can see on the slide in general, the geography of projects is enough big she is not limited to this branches have projects all over the world in japan in italy in europe in many countries of south america what's going on there in Africa, they drove to kettari as well array now completes our large samsung modernization project and there special devices have been developed for their tasks, this case did not describe in russia, too, by the way, there is an implementation here already three years one unit to work our device once they turned to me because that they have not updated anything for three years and when they wanted to update a very old one firmware 7 just forgot memory their device was now planned software update recently this old has passed often completely the old firmware did not fit the new one because that there were many in between this is our the factory made a transitional firmware for them so they can do it but me too liked it it seemed that really can be flexibly and quickly work as customers besides the company top technologies includes the company manufacturing automation systems warehouse balances and companies producing motors for stepping robots for conveyors all we have is everything is related to industry one way or otherwise the automation rice is good expertise from focusing work I believe can be the key to success cooperation that at the same time it gives customer understanding that we are not like whales for which as industrial projects it is some pennies such as lava and some problems began there but with processes, they simply closed their industrialist our day their little thing for us this is all important therefore any of your projects we will carefully study and with all my might to support you here in the world we are checking very useful for solid company snider bb wha panasonic samsung affairs what to add to Russia they are already buying from us our equipment recaro it is his serious through the customer were coasters in my opinion we should have colleagues here from the game too but at this webinar hope we expand our cooperation the company is less known to me in russia but this is a very serious manufacturer for example moore electronic is one of largest manufacturers of power electronics they sell our equipment under its own brand large money here is a short illustration of our line and concept how to develop it that is, it all comes together in one word network that is building networks and inside we have segment which one way or another intersect and separate at the same time that is, for example, we have unmanaged switches switches itself 12 for rail and waste switches are a specific source for energy another line 75 76 is for video surveillance in harsh environments large line of dynamic switches also certification for the railway under poppy 750 some of them are certified by explosion protection part under the sea plus there are a bunch of auxiliary devices which is also strong this protocol gateways are in demand wired and wireless with Wi-Fi recently the line has been updated added lore van bluetooth and gps are there as you enter output secondary execution midi converter and server port are separate by injector odessa need add a wardrobe sing and then just ordinary execution is support 5 1588 what is in demand in the energy sector and now the cellular is becoming in demand new generation communications as we are the hardware level so im program depending on which segment of the network we will play in general mogu say that for almost anyone industrial tasks we can offer solution from our line so on this actually everything is still once I will say that in more detail and more dive deeply into the specifics and in the line which is for those individuals and 2 upcoming webinars will be read sergey oil and gas I have not shared the rest of them yet transport on the Internet of things me too I will say this among colleagues, what do you think can we turn on the sound oleg they are weak let's ask questions yourself first we will answer what we asked now later then why amer question about supplies to the Crimea, there are no problems with this us a Taiwanese company does not participate in these ladies and it was worked out from excel a here to open the government for that that projects are behind him and the value in society of the territory you can ask more questions where this is not a question but statements about and form have their own switches for the industry yes it's true most of them are true made to order for baby in other companies at the same time, baby works with switches third party companies and often use it in projects we collaborated with or VT number yes yes indeed they become sergey you i think the meaning of the line hirschmann they became different we also have this cooperation so work practically all the whales of automation of such projects and schneiders rockwell and honeywell they are all under their own brand one teleme product we have experience with plug serbia now indonesians taking into account let's go they show us does not tell the details, but they have here it is interesting to jump ventures and it is not yet the whole question andrei only our asks also at the expense of attestation sorry fsc ees yes, this is a troublesome business, we are not cops we went through it now with with our new distributor with exchange let's see this new hassle we have b csy 1 850 find msu it doesn’t work less so far this attestation is optional for work ask them the closest will be so but not yet because none of the vendors did it except phoenix is a phoenix well, not everyone likes your question from user who identified himself as john smith networks van long-range longran of which only Yesterday on Popova Dollars on the 868 about what we have cut in Russia in my opinion he was not so cut down a few will pay the question sounded there there are almost any types suitable but nevertheless, if there is a project no mind we have no problems to cut exactly what you need it just in time that our ready-made upgrade equipment not even under we are very different from whales about pensions we do not produce percy we have protocol gateways we have modules I / O gateways protocols can be done this way programming there is a curtain of faith device with but droids if you want upload your service to the clouds from visual programming environment but bios as such is not here yet got a little for I like the sky is not there because that but it is no longer networked it is different so our focus it was the network that got drunk, it's completely different I don’t wear the area to the port of merlin there are to how many ports need to write manual i bart easier called well that's how much I do not remember the unfortunate question I will answer ask something else, maybe about there are a lot of us here about the specifics man questions so little girls our up to the wallet catalog of course we can get if moscow we can give them away if you are not in Moscow you can download from our Russian council now on my slide from apteka.ru there there is download the so-called tab on it there we have some brochures about the switch about the tears of the protocols Andrey well, in this write me a personal we we will agree with you how we could you hand over or you can always close them with our the distributor of the fight in the office so at the expense of what the company plans to bite off from the already falling market is remarkable question from iphone internal politics as I imagine no photo Misha, well, I mean that information it would not be entirely correct to technical building answer sergey here in in general, you can tell a lot because it is a matter of analyzing the market and our blade and wanna know what can i say what u different vendors have different strengths side for example cisco is a cool vendor but they have a very narrow glacier there they are not our other competitors can play such as could garden you so they are very strong but there are places where, for example, at max and not even the same equipment as in us for example gateways of the protocols of my powers not 850 well really not so much with us with many vendors we can fight against prices with the Chinese what to do if the customer wants the Chinese this is his karmic choice of course to a kid with this other Chinese type we won’t name anything there vendors or let's call it an alsom for example or planets to execute wrong bad of course some but nevertheless I I think they produce dummies increased equipment because a two-year warranty they break still discredited so of course you have to work here explain to the customer about what it is critical important process moreover our strong point is that we are finalizing equipment for customer requirements have already been my practice when the customer asked finish the specific functionality of the berth factory react enough interest it was a whole list wishes and the plant took a break through can imagine such a drink for a week here it is a new firmware here these became two the point we made because it is easy the rest if you really want to be straight and that is, we will make a must-have in a month now these we do not want to do from complicated and if want money can expect that is, the lungs are flexible enough very friendly approach not very like it can be ours too advantage that we urge you all to decide with us non-trivial task if something is not exist let it be together with you let's do what else what else to say on the most difficult stage of the ruler we can compete both in whole and in terms our supplies are of sufficient quality interface good story we are ready with did not start a shop with you s answered or some other and minute I'm like this we now add to those customers who are interested in more details even in special training we are ready to come and read a course to teach people and in general we open for cooperation please contact can make an application through banned there are some contracts yes, we first have a form on the site top of those dot ru secondly in the presentation before the presentation, we will post it in a free access is also compact we have contacts and we are on the main site let me sit looking for an important thing i still I will add to it that we are not just ready give you the specification for the box on my with a lot this is generally the most interesting software solve the problem, that is, if the customer is I still want to don’t know what we are with with pleasure we will discuss possible network topology possible architecture because very often tasks are solved not at all how they can survive on At first glance, do I know this from personal experience in systems integrator i led the development department technically many years with engineers with our very many such tasks hacked plus we are ready to date customers read them with you presentations study production tasks invite us to solve problems this very interesting and promising thanks not a single question of the girls appreciated so girls ask something just not ask if you are married or wife, okay colleagues, you can say what was missing in the presentation so that I add this our next performance do not want to say yes then I still have have one question do you plan the next webinars and which one would be of interest to you gives a good just about testing in russia a wide enough range of us can venture testing or pilot contact in the baththat we just won't just distribute glands if you have any interesting case we will give you the equipment we will help him set up let's help prove to the customer what is it right what is it works as expected member test report or there will be such a gathering principle if anyone is interested in delving into equipment I can remote from the guru give they also write access to a small mesh through the website, the application can be organized what equipment would you like to see what functionality is all this interesting possibly so many questions but that didn’t end but nevertheless good that they were you have a little more time until scheduled about an hour more there we can do something for five minutes answer without and if you want sergey tell me what no and no i I would like to draw your attention to the fact that I saw a list of a company that is engaged in building from treasures maybe you can say a few more words warehouse products weather yes thank you it means that in general, a separate one is very interesting there is a business it is called a system are dictated by us very large projects in india in indonesia now in final stage project in russia new platypus warehouse in the south of Moscow comes at the expense of at least the final phase and our systems will stand there automation of warehouse balances i now I'll try to find that presentation colleagues from interestingly put a plus sign in the chat what is Sergei to hang around we have someone the key will put dag a lot right here it fell down well let's then we will extend a little now I will find this presentation and show you about it they haven't got her for a long time while you are looking here it is from an iphone user question was under a corporate contract, I think that we probably can at least this is a question discuss separately if h 3 c what is available in view of the appearance but if yes well listen call and talk to the contract and such a story so where does sergey feed me you are not there at hand I can tell you management I probably a couple of slides now I can say well it is necessary find very specification mishon palette it was enough generally we are discussing now I will find which of these is the most interesting etuline brochure yes now demonstration here you can see brochure sergey how many times do you need to see what here we are talking here about warehouse residual means the problem that it solves our system is getting this problem operational information about what we have In stock this task seems at first glance simple enough but it becomes non-trivial if you have large warehouse for example platypus warehouse platypus warehouse to me let's take any warehouse zone or amazon near us russia umbrella amazon what does it mean to eat one shelf on which there are acceptable that iPhones and a loader comes there he takes three alphas there she puts in a box and refer to the supplier company one afterwards supplier company 2 as they have are bought by different companies that resell and chaifa how to understand promptly and at some point suddenly it turns out that the iphone and the tip for example 1 week they pass the sewerage Well, some kind of advertising campaign is over passed and they ended one day a next delivery is scheduled for only a week later but next stock replenishment another example for example warehouse of some nut factory for 10 y all there car all products the same however they are used for different production products fit people take these nuts take from how do you know who took more nuts how to find out how many are left how you know when you need it urgently and buy more or maybe you don't need to bathe though scheduled because there is nowhere to store them for this, the peak melts system is used put on racks [music] different, different pieces of iron, depending on use case the loader approaches presses the button or he he just puts his hand into the box and already it is read that he is there hand nipple or he chooses the digit to which supplier he took this system is practically put all over the country and it allows people optimize the warehouse process, that is there is no supply gap in that if you need urgently increasing quantity in warehouses again europroject production capacity i.e. production interruption is not excluded due to lack of necessary components excess warehouse balances are eliminated as it is always known how many there are now if they are not selected then you can not there would be no place to order but not to store storage is a cost especially if it is some products that require special storage conditions temperatures and humidity there lighting in addition you can connect the business system analysts do it people method now the world do to understand which of suppliers takes you more and why accordingly, you can run targeted advertising and the like things are all big so much by themselves the system itself is technically simple yet they do 40 percent profits that technologies are not very expensive they are needed by those people who are built like warehouses and logistics centers what now happening all over the country especially after having given carbide delivery is just vital function but this brochure can be downloaded from the website top online in Russian with music grown there is still no project at all, not only we did one project like this cool if you have these projects we with pleasure we will discuss them very big do you have a support team in india? means they speak English very friendly and we did this platypus project let's make it now 7 with you in brief so questions look at the question there is still about contracts and did not think that this means in there are references there are references about which we cannot speak because they are not made under our brand we give the cooperation of our rooney stands at Rosneft one of the famous brands stands there server port i.e. server
serial devices are enough many that are collected on remote objects serial information that is, if on us there diesel generators all sorts of others pieces of iron which will be followed by a face rs232 and 485 remotely via alps network can be configured via our devices bought a lot protocol gateways but the point is that we We do not know much about their application; they are bought the name of the inverter company ate doom not the secret of what they do with them unfortunately they don't know to the end something there to digitize bought recently bought guys they had diesel generators too with bass mascot a little scruffy in the bass so they control I'll say my own a little to our device on networked on the switch directly too there is this project on them, I can not much tell nevertheless they are all good showing on accounts or by as far as I remember tunnel in norway shared with and views was done yes yes yes yes yes but here in russia means in Russia and the CIS if there are any other projects in Ukraine but also there it is not necessary for our Indians to work with them because you have been from Ukraine for some time now work hard to shake by the way sergey please remind me what is not so serious so everyone wanted to know about pick the light but nobody asks a question so colleagues then let's finish thanks